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Title: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on May 02, 2015, 04:57:44 PM
Didn't get to watch the first hal but really impressed with how we are playing, moving and passing. 3-1 was the right score and their goal at end shouldn't hide the gap between the two sides. Clattenburg had a very poor game today. Delph looked really special at times as did TC. And what would we do without The Beast!!

Great result!!
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref
Post by: thick_mike on May 02, 2015, 04:59:28 PM
Is this the post match thread? If so, .............YYYYEEEESSSSS!
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref
Post by: Somniloquism on May 02, 2015, 05:00:07 PM
A much needed win with other results today. It seems Burnley and QPR are now down but six are now in the frame for the final spot. My head says Newcastle, especially after today and Carvers after match comments but hopefully Albion are the ones who think that they are safe and on the beach and then fall.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref
Post by: passitsideways on May 02, 2015, 05:00:24 PM
Great performance. Had to scramble at times in the second half but that was to be expected given that Everton are a good side capable of creating opportunities.

Clattenburg really was a cnut on wheels though
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref
Post by: Malandro on May 02, 2015, 05:00:38 PM
Excellent stuff.

Highlight for me was Cleverley's run and goal. Very fortunate that Delph isn't out for the season, fucking ref.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: thick_mike on May 02, 2015, 05:01:11 PM
I think Carver (and the players) knew he wouldn't be there next week.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Dave on May 02, 2015, 05:01:23 PM
Is this the post match thread? If so, .............YYYYEEEESSSSS!
It is following a quick title change.

Great stuff. Six points from matches against Spurs, Man City and Everton is rather impressive.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref
Post by: dekko on May 02, 2015, 05:01:26 PM
Great stuff, good win, probably should've been more comfortable if it wasn't for shitty refereeing.

Bit of a pisser that Sunderland won, meaning we're no further from the drop zone points-wise than we were this morning, but it puts a few teams below us and with one less game to play.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post Match Thread
Post by: pig on May 02, 2015, 05:01:52 PM
Fantastic result, Delph ran the show. Grealish looked superb, Cleverly run onto goal was brilliant, and the big man up top came up with the goods again!
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post Match Thread
Post by: jcsutv on May 02, 2015, 05:02:17 PM
Sounds like the Ref did his best for them. Well done Villa.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: villadelph on May 02, 2015, 05:02:41 PM
CLATTENBURG AWFUL.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref
Post by: aj2k77 on May 02, 2015, 05:02:50 PM
Great performance, the 3-2 doesn't do us justice. Very cynical Everton team and very very poor refereeing.

The midfield right now are working together perfectly, still too much dilly dallying around at the back at times, get the ball out of the fucking danger area when you can but all in all a very good performance against the form team in the division that destroyed Man Utd last week.

Delph, Benteke, Bacuna. Brilliant performances.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on May 02, 2015, 05:02:53 PM
Great stuff, good win, probably should've been more comfortable if it wasn't for shitty refereeing.

Bit of a pisser that Sunderland won, meaning we're no further from the drop zone points-wise than we were this morning, but it puts a few teams below us and with one less game to play.

And we have West Ham next up at home whilst some of them have got very tricky games...
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on May 02, 2015, 05:03:12 PM
We're playing great but still cant seem to shake off that habit of awful clangers in danger of undoing all our hard work.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: GarTomas on May 02, 2015, 05:03:16 PM
Very good performance. 2 weeks running results have flattered Everton.

Can't fathom how Coleman holding Givens arm down isn't a foul?! Clattenburg very poor. Glad he hasn't been given the cup final.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: aj2k77 on May 02, 2015, 05:03:47 PM
Another thing, we normally lose or draw these kind of games with the excuse that the ref was terrible, today we overcame it and beat the 12 men. Brilliant.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref
Post by: Tuscans on May 02, 2015, 05:04:02 PM
This could go all the way up to the final game of the season, unfortunately.

Well played guys, massively deserved all 3 pts, Everton are nothing to write about, give me Sherwood over Mythinez every day.

Benteke just sign for life or give Kozak your DNA. Grealish can be anything he wants, reminds me of a young Ginola. Delph you're just a ledge mate....thanks for sticking with us and Tom, I'm full up from all the words you've made me eat over the last 2 months.

Lastly, Sherwood....that is all.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post Match Thread
Post by: Monty on May 02, 2015, 05:04:13 PM
Really appalling refereeing, but a great performance today, perhaps our best under Sherwood. Delph is quite amazing, Benteke is monstrous, Grealish is so smooth and Cleverley is absolutely everywhere all the time. Great win.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post Match Thread
Post by: Risso on May 02, 2015, 05:04:32 PM
I said in the match thread that we're a pleasure to watch, but really need to cut out the silly mistakes at the back.  Delph, Bacuna and Benteke were superb today.

Just a shame that we can't put clear daylight between us and the pack.  Anybody from West Brom down could still go.  I hope it's Newcastle.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: OzVilla on May 02, 2015, 05:05:24 PM
Great performance against a decent side. Everyone played well again and we look superb going forward. Must cut out these silly errors at the back as we put a lot of pressure on ourselves.

I usually like Clatenberg but he had an absolute shocker.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on May 02, 2015, 05:05:28 PM
Is this the post match thread? If so, .............YYYYEEEESSSSS!
It is following a quick title change.

Great stuff. Six points from matches against Spurs, Man City and Everton is rather impressive.

Ta Dave. Got all excited and butchered the title!
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: mrfuse on May 02, 2015, 05:06:00 PM
Despite a Man of the Match performance for Everton by Clattenburg we still beat him. We played really well and it was a well deserved Victory.
Cleverley and Nzogbia look different players under Sherwood.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: clash city rocker on May 02, 2015, 05:06:05 PM
How many points now does a team need to avoid relegation ?
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Archie on May 02, 2015, 05:06:22 PM
I am over the moon today, but can we have a normal keeper please? Even if it could be foul you can not concede a goal like that.
Even today Pagliuca would be better than Given and Guzan. I mean this Guzan: excellent two seasons ago, good last season, average this season.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: dicedlam on May 02, 2015, 05:07:07 PM
A great result and should see us safe now I would think.

Some diabolical decisions made by Clattenburg today. He's probably got the hump because he did not get the F.A. Cup gig.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: GarTomas on May 02, 2015, 05:07:54 PM
What's Tims percentage now??
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: thick_mike on May 02, 2015, 05:08:16 PM
How many points now does a team need to avoid relegation ?

About 45?
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Tuscans on May 02, 2015, 05:08:30 PM
I am over the moon today, but can we have a normal keeper please? Even if it could be foul you can not concede a goal like that.
Even today Pagliuca would be better than Given and Guzan. I mean this Guzan: excellent two seasons ago, good last season, average this season.
What did Given do wrong? He had his arm held by Seamus
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on May 02, 2015, 05:09:52 PM
I am over the moon today, but can we have a normal keeper please? Even if it could be foul you can not concede a goal like that.
Even today Pagliuca would be better than Given and Guzan. I mean this Guzan: excellent two seasons ago, good last season, average this season.

Archie love some of your observations but Given gets no blame today.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: paulcomben on May 02, 2015, 05:11:42 PM
Phew! Clattenburg owes us each a whisky. One more win ought to be enough because teams at the bottom have a few games against each other and there is only one relegation spot left to avoid, really. A win over West Ham and a draw at Southampton would mean a relaxing last day.  Fingers crossed.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Goldie.7 on May 02, 2015, 05:11:56 PM
Getting some points is all I cared about after the earlier result but getting the entire 3 points is really big for us.

Sunderland winning and their game in hand is still a concern but we did what we had to today. Delph was MOTM by far, Nzogbia still needs to do much more for me.

I think this is going to be a 39/40 points safety season.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: clash city rocker on May 02, 2015, 05:12:32 PM
A lot of teams around us probably think ....shit villa keep getting results...long may it continue.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Reuben on May 02, 2015, 05:13:12 PM
Great win, a loss would have seen us in the bottom 3 but now we are 14th and above Newcastle and Leicester who have similar run ins to us..
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: aj2k77 on May 02, 2015, 05:13:25 PM
Anyone have a count of how many times Grealish was fouled today? The way he slides past players, it's like watching honey slither off a spoon.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: donnygate on May 02, 2015, 05:13:43 PM
Poor refereeing today. Jack reminds me of the young Sir Brian. He's got a long way to go but I love the way he ghosts past players.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Boz on May 02, 2015, 05:14:56 PM
Despite a Man of the Match performance for Everton by Clattenburg we still beat him. We played really well and it was a well deserved Victory.
Cleverley and Nzogbia look different players under Sherwood.

I think all the team are looking incredibly better players than you'd have thought possible under Lambert.

We have a real gem in Grealish, his movement on and off the ball is a natural talent plus his confidence,  demeanour and ability to keep his cool under provocation is a lesson to some of the senior players.

Thought they all played really well today and gave their all.
 
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Loxton01 on May 02, 2015, 05:16:02 PM
So so impressed! I can't believe the turn around in a team so quickly!

We have our club back and it feels bloody wonderful!

We play to our strengths now and attack with verve pace power

Players all over the pitch who are now confident and values are rising!!

We have a spine of the team now that can challenge in the top ten
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Monty on May 02, 2015, 05:17:47 PM
So much to enjoy about some of the play. I think my favourite was when Delph Zidanishly beat two players in our half, then sprung that pass for Grealish who kept it in with a very cool slide/control. It was like watching a Champions League team at times (though not at the back!).
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Archie on May 02, 2015, 05:18:01 PM
Archie love some of your observations but Given gets no blame today.

Thanks, mate it is reciprocated. And same for Tuscans.
In my opinion, yes, it was foul, but an experienced keeper must never stay on the line of the goal, you must go towards the ball.
But I am so happy that I could forgive him even if I risk an heart attack every game.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Jimbo on May 02, 2015, 05:20:34 PM
Whining Scouse fuckers and one cheating ref fucker fucked.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: clash city rocker on May 02, 2015, 05:21:53 PM
Martinez or Sherwood ? No contest.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: brontebilly on May 02, 2015, 05:22:34 PM
Great win especially considering the results around us. We were totally dominant all game long and should have scored more than three. Not sure why Martinez waited so long to make his changes but they looked a much better side last 15 mins. Liverpool, City, and now Everton we have handed them goals. Ciaran Clark is being badly missed imo. First goal was similar to Liverpool's goal in the FA Cup. Very weak from Westwood initially but just plain awful from Vlaar. Second probably should have been a free out but Given has to be a lot stronger.
Our midfield three completely dominated Everton, Delph with a particularly outstanding performance. Cleverley has been far more aggressive and dynamic of late. Great goal. Both full backs were much improved. Okore solid again. Despite the two goals I didnt think it was Benteke's best performance but great to see him in the goals. Nzogbia justified his start with clever play and Grealish continues to shine.

Given 5, Bacuna 7, Okore 7, Vlaar 5, Rico 7, Cleverley 8, Delph 10, Westwood 7, Nzogbia 7, Grealish 7, Benteke 7. Sanchez 6, Hutton 5, Cole
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 02, 2015, 05:22:50 PM
Never in doubt.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: garyshawsknee on May 02, 2015, 05:23:23 PM
Great report from Pat Murphy,he said Villa Park rocking again, dubious Everton penalty, fortunate second goal for them. When he boasts about us, you know we played well. Said score line flatterted them.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Steve R on May 02, 2015, 05:24:36 PM
We played incredibly well today. Everton are a dirty side, all body checks and hacks. With an acquiescent referee they were able to indulge all afternoon. Everton have a good team sheet, they should stick to playing football. Clattenberg has nothing at all to fall back on, a terrible performance from a poor referee.

The football only came from one team.

We should be safe but we still have a fair bit to do. It's just a shame we do not have Newcastle on the last day, I quite like Burnley.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: amfy on May 02, 2015, 05:26:07 PM
All the pubs in St Lawrence Gap were advertising our game alongside Liverpool v QPR, but come 10.am (kick off time), all channels had switched to the Liverpool game and no-one could get the game on!

Ended up gathered round a table in The Sporting Pig with 4 other Villa fans, straining to hear Talksport commentary on my iPad! So nervy - but at least good to share the experience with fellow Villans all these miles away!

......and well done to everyone who was there - the home crowd sounded fantastic today! We were singing along with you here in Barbados!
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: garyshawsknee on May 02, 2015, 05:27:34 PM
Mount Gays all round amfy !!
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: ez on May 02, 2015, 05:28:31 PM
For some reason i had a good feeling about this game. Really that scoreline flattered everton. I don't usually criticise refs but Clattenburg needs to have a look at his performance today.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Archie on May 02, 2015, 05:32:25 PM
According to the English law, can we suit Lambert for damages now?
Not only many players appear transformed now and so is the entire team, but we were boring, we never scored and neither shoot to the goal, now we play an attacking, passing, entertaining football  and score two or three goals every game with any opponents.
The members of this forum are sharper than the Villa board, then?
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Colhint on May 02, 2015, 05:32:40 PM
So much to enjoy about some of the play. I think my favourite was when Delph Zidanishly beat two players in our half, then sprung that pass for Grealish who kept it in with a very cool slide/control. It was like watching a Champions League team at times (though not at the back!).

This is my favourite word ever
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Jimbo on May 02, 2015, 05:34:02 PM
According to the English law, can we suit Lambert for damages now?
Not only many players appear transformed now and so is the entire team, but we were boring, we never scored and neither shoot to the goal, now we play an attacking, passing, entertaining football  and score two or three goals every game with any opponents.
The members of this forum are sharper than the Villa board, then?

I've seen spoons that are sharper than our board, Archie.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Archie on May 02, 2015, 05:34:24 PM
Would not be fantastic if Newcastle were relegated again?
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Archie on May 02, 2015, 05:35:01 PM
According to the English law, can we suit Lambert for damages now?
Not only many players appear transformed now and so is the entire team, but we were boring, we never scored and neither shoot to the goal, now we play an attacking, passing, entertaining football  and score two or three goals every game with any opponents.
The members of this forum are sharper than the Villa board, then?

I've seen spoons that are sharper than our board, Archie.


Nice touch mate! :-)
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: old man villa fan on May 02, 2015, 05:35:49 PM
We played incredibly well today. Everton are a dirty side, all body checks and hacks. With an acquiescent referee they were able to indulge all afternoon. Everton have a good team sheet, they should stick to playing football. Clattenberg has nothing at all to fall back on, a terrible performance from a poor referee.

The football only came from one team.

We should be safe but we still have a fair bit to do. It's just a shame we do not have Newcastle on the last day, I quite like Burnley.

Agree with everything you said about Clattenberg.  Everton were playing on the fact that he was not booking any players.  There was a period in the 2nd half when they committed 4 fouls in the space of about 2 minutes, one after another.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: garyshawsknee on May 02, 2015, 05:35:52 PM
Would not be fantastic if Newcastle were relegated again?

Especailly after what Carver said about us earlier. Seems he's put his foot in it again today, hope they implode.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: villadelph on May 02, 2015, 05:41:15 PM
We played incredibly well today. Everton are a dirty side, all body checks and hacks. With an acquiescent referee they were able to indulge all afternoon. Everton have a good team sheet, they should stick to playing football. Clattenberg has nothing at all to fall back on, a terrible performance from a poor referee.

The football only came from one team.

We should be safe but we still have a fair bit to do. It's just a shame we do not have Newcastle on the last day, I quite like Burnley.

Agree with everything you said about Clattenberg.  Everton were playing on the fact that he was not booking any players.  There was a period in the 2nd half when they committed 4 fouls in the space of about 2 minutes, one after another.

He really was terrible today. People climbing all over Benteke, Naismith's hack on Delph, Grealish having defenders chop him down every touch, Givens receiving a yellow after that diabolical no call at the end, the penalty of Vlaar was scripted by Naismith but he always falls over, the Mirallas dive shortly there after. Just sad.

Truly pathetic, glad he wasn't given our day at Wembley. Far too big of an occasion for that nit to steal the show.

That being said, we kicked ass today.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: bertlambshank on May 02, 2015, 05:41:56 PM
Would not be fantastic if Newcastle were relegated again?

Especailly after what Carver said about us earlier. Seems he's put his foot in it again today, hope they implode.
What has he said about us.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on May 02, 2015, 05:43:08 PM
What I really encouraged by is how we played at Villa Park. We looked so confident and exactly how a home team should look. Given that we will play two more at home I have no worries anymore about going down.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: ktvillan on May 02, 2015, 05:43:51 PM
Mightily relieved that we won and played well by all accounts but shaking off those below us is like shaking shit off your shoe.     Leicester are just bastards for winning 5 out of their last 6 or whatever it is, but I think a win next week should just about see us home.   What could be most significant is we're now above Newcastle,  albeit on goal difference, who must have thought themselves safe weeks ago.   Although their run in isn't that daunting on paper they must be utterly bereft of confidence and belief at the minute.  Minor quibble - conceding late goals again is something we can't seem to overcome and we really could have done with maximising goal difference, just in case.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Proposition Joe on May 02, 2015, 05:46:36 PM
Love it. Tim's fashioned a side I actually feel proud watching. Skills, positivity and, importantly: backbone.

Delph was superb, Benteke, Jack and TC close behind.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Whiney MacWhineface on May 02, 2015, 05:48:01 PM
I can't remember a season where the last few teams are winning so many. In a "normal" season our recent form would have seen us safe(ish).
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: ez on May 02, 2015, 05:49:42 PM
Would not be fantastic if Newcastle were relegated again?

"They're not laughing anymore"
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: GarTomas on May 02, 2015, 05:52:04 PM
It's in our hands though. The last 3 games are all winnable. West Ham with nothing really to play for, and with Big Sams future in doubt their players are hardly playing for their future. Saints could be just running out of steam. Burnley could be the toughest since they will most likely be gone and just enjoying their last day out.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Malandro on May 02, 2015, 05:54:31 PM
Whining Scouse fuckers and one cheating ref fucker fucked.

Fucking the fucking fuckers was all the matters. I'm fucked from it as well.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Ron Manager on May 02, 2015, 05:57:14 PM
A deserved win. Does anyone know how many passes we strung together in that two minutes before Delph was fouled. Clattenburg who is usually quite reasonable was dreadful  today. How he missed the foul on Given I cant imagine. Ray Charles, Stevie Wonder and Lennie Peters
would all have got that right! Sherwood is doing a sterling job but still plenty of work to do in the next few weeks.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Tony Erdington on May 02, 2015, 06:04:03 PM
DESERVED win, some of Delphs play was world class, weve got to buy Cleverley, Westwood great performance, thought clattenberg had a good game for everton.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: nigel on May 02, 2015, 06:04:14 PM
Given the other results that was a massive win
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: KevinGage on May 02, 2015, 06:06:22 PM
We're into May and we could finish 13th, or go down.

Odd season.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: adrenachrome on May 02, 2015, 06:10:30 PM
Excellent performance by team. I was a little concerned when I saw the team as there appeared to be no DCM and the fullback positions looked vulnerable but fair play to Sherwood, he came up trumps.

Delph was magnificent and they had no answer other than to constantly block him and chop him down. Cliterbug must have had a bet on the number yellow cards issued. Grealish looks threatening every time he gets the ball and his corner kicks are in a different dimension compared to what we have had to endure for several years. Benteke had a great time with their centre backs.

A few other observations. It is not a great idea when you get a free kick in wide and very deep position to throw everybody forward and hoist the ball into the box. Westwood does what he does very well, but he is not a DCM and the way Lukaku waltzed around him late in the second half was indicative. Vlaar is far more likely to make mistakes when he is playing on his wrong side.

Great entertainment, great result and a great time to be a Villa fan.     
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: beness on May 02, 2015, 06:12:31 PM
Great result. Well deserved.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on May 02, 2015, 06:13:55 PM
I must say we were superb today.This was not a 3-2 not even close. 3-0 would have been more like it. It was a pleasure to be at Villa Park today. All 3 goals were great  for different reasons. The beast had no right to nod that floated cross into the net and than the absolute flash like reaction to tap home Vlaar's header... brilliant however well done to Tom for superbly taken goal. I thought they were all very good except may be Vlaar who always worries me.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on May 02, 2015, 06:14:09 PM
Great stuff. Clattenberk was awful.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: garyshawsknee on May 02, 2015, 06:14:19 PM
Would not be fantastic if Newcastle were relegated again?

Especailly after what Carver said about us earlier. Seems he's put his foot in it again today, hope they implode.
What has he said about us.


About when we put them down a few years ago,before we played them recently, he said something to the effect of '' i'll never forget how their crowd reacted to us going down'' what goes around comes around sort of thing. Well Mr Carver, 0 points next week and you are proper fcuked.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Duncan Shaw on May 02, 2015, 06:15:56 PM
All the pubs in St Lawrence Gap were advertising our game alongside Liverpool v QPR, but come 10.am (kick off time), all channels had switched to the Liverpool game and no-one could get the game on!

Ended up gathered round a table in The Sporting Pig with 4 other Villa fans, straining to hear Talksport commentary on my iPad! So nervy - but at least good to share the experience with fellow Villans all these miles away!

......and well done to everyone who was there - the home crowd sounded fantastic today! We were singing along with you here in Barbados!

My Dad lives up just north of Speightstown on the North West coast and he had it on today at his house - if only I'd known you could have gone round - he's very hospitable!!
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on May 02, 2015, 06:18:36 PM
Sunderland winning and their game in hand is still a concern but we did what we had to today. Delph was MOTM by far, Nzogbia still needs to do much more for me.
I think this is going to be a 39/40 points safety season.
Sunderland's game in hand is v Arsenal and 36/37 would be enough as there are 4 teams below us now for 1 position and they all 6 teams play each other as well.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on May 02, 2015, 06:20:53 PM
So much to enjoy about some of the play. I think my favourite was when Delph Zidanishly beat two players in our half, then sprung that pass for Grealish who kept it in with a very cool slide/control. It was like watching a Champions League team at times (though not at the back!).
Yes. Some of the  play was in that "takes your breath away" category.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: not3bad on May 02, 2015, 06:25:50 PM
Another thing, we normally lose or draw these kind of games with the excuse that the ref was terrible, today we overcame it and beat the 12 men. Brilliant.

Too right. They still couldn't best us with 12 men. Seems the Universe wants to make it tough for us this season. Maybe it's some kind of punishment for stumbling over the line a couple of times!
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: CT Villan on May 02, 2015, 06:27:01 PM
Ah me lads, ye shud only seen us gannin’,
We pass’d the foaks upon the road just as they wor stannin’;
Thor wes lots o’ lads an’ lasses there, all wi’ greetin' faces,
Gawn alang the Scotswood Road, straight into relegation.

Thank you, I'm here all week.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on May 02, 2015, 06:27:11 PM
Great report from Pat Murphy,he said Villa Park rocking again, dubious Everton penalty, fortunate second goal for them. When he boasts about us, you know we played well. Said score line flatterted them.
I didn't hear that report but I heard his interview with Sherwood  and that was equally good. Tim tried to keep it down beat but Murphy was gushing about our performance.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: CJ on May 02, 2015, 06:29:05 PM
Great to get that result - especially with Sunderland & Leicester winning. Delph deserved MOTM for me - but an all round superb performance by the whole team. I'm getting a bit fed up of all the humble pie I'm eating - firstly for my reservations about Sherwood, and now I've had to take an extra delivery for my earlier comments about Cleverley.  I made the mistake of saying to my mate before the game that Clattenburg was usually ok these days - how wrong was I - that was one of the worst refereeing performances I've seen in a long time. I'd like to see the penalty again, and their second was a clear foul on Given. Great to win in spite of him. And to add icing to the cake - I got the Guess the Crowd figure spot on!
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: OCD on May 02, 2015, 06:30:14 PM
So much to enjoy about some of the play. I think my favourite was when Delph Zidanishly beat two players in our half, then sprung that pass for Grealish who kept it in with a very cool slide/control. It was like watching a Champions League team at times (though not at the back!).
Yes. Some of the  play was in that "takes your breath away" category.

Cleverley's goal was really good. He had the awareness to realise that Barry was ball watching, Bacuna played a perfectly weighted and angled pass that was timed for Cleverley to put away with minimal fuss.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on May 02, 2015, 06:30:34 PM
I can't remember a season where the last few teams are winning so many.

I was talking about this just now, if you look at the bottom teams, they're all picking up points and most of them are showing a bit of spirit.

The glaring exception is Newcastle, who have lost eight in a row, look truly pathetic, and have such discord in-house that their manager has today accused one of their players of getting sent off deliberately.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Chris Jameson on May 02, 2015, 06:31:14 PM
As I mentioned on another thread I'm always baffled when Murphy is accused of hating Villa or supposedly being happy when we lose, that's a massive load of bollocks. Over the years I've heard him say many complimentary things about Villa, I think people only hear what they want to hear sometimes.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on May 02, 2015, 06:32:24 PM
Goal 1 (http://gfycat.com/MenacingTemptingChimpanzee)
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on May 02, 2015, 06:32:43 PM
Goal 2 (http://gfycat.com/CheapMeekApe)
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on May 02, 2015, 06:33:07 PM
Goal 3 (http://gfycat.com/ScrawnyHeavyKouprey)
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Risso on May 02, 2015, 06:33:46 PM
I can't remember a season where the last few teams are winning so many.

I was talking about this just now, if you look at the bottom teams, they're all picking up points and most of them are showing a bit of spirit.

The glaring exception is Newcastle, who have lost eight in a row, look truly pathetic, and have such discord in-house that their manager has today accused one of their players of getting sent off deliberately.

If you need any extra cheer after today, go and have a look at a Newcastle forum.  I think it's safe to to say that they're not best pleased and I wouldn't want to be on duty in "the Toon" tonight!
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: dave shelley on May 02, 2015, 06:34:10 PM
Anyone know if there is a Game of the Day on Sky tonight?
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: aj2k77 on May 02, 2015, 06:35:47 PM
Goal 1 (http://gfycat.com/MenacingTemptingChimpanzee)

Benteke climbed so high above the centre backs his head was almost in the Upper North.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: OCD on May 02, 2015, 06:37:02 PM
Anyone know if there is a Game of the Day on Sky tonight?

Yes, we're it.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Ron Manager on May 02, 2015, 06:37:28 PM
As I mentioned on another thread I'm always baffled when Murphy is accused of hating Villa or supposedly being happy when we lose, that's a massive load of bollocks. Over the years I've heard him say many complimentary things about Villa, I think people only hear what they want to hear sometimes.

Well he is quite welcome at Villa Park,I think. Not at Leicester,however, where he has been ostracised!

Boom Boom!
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: jcsutv on May 02, 2015, 06:38:55 PM
As I mentioned on another thread I'm always baffled when Murphy is accused of hating Villa or supposedly being happy when we lose, that's a massive load of bollocks. Over the years I've heard him say many complimentary things about Villa, I think people only hear what they want to hear sometimes.
I agree, he was the one sticking his neck out and having a go at Lambert while the local press said nowt.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on May 02, 2015, 06:39:54 PM
Just loving watching us atm, what a brilliant third goal that was, Bacuna's pass and Cleverley's finish, probably my favourite goal this season.

How many goals have the magic triangle of Grealish-Delph-Benteke created and scored in the last month?

Have no worries, 4-6 points are coming from West Ham and Burnley.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Malandro on May 02, 2015, 06:40:14 PM
Goal 1 (http://gfycat.com/MenacingTemptingChimpanzee)

Cheers for the videos.

I didn't appreciate what an amazing ball it was from delph for the first. It couldn't have been any better.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: aj2k77 on May 02, 2015, 06:45:15 PM
Bacuna is quite the threat going forward isn't he. If he sorted his defensive side out he'd be worth a fair few quid.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Rudy65 on May 02, 2015, 06:46:08 PM
Goal 1 (http://gfycat.com/MenacingTemptingChimpanzee)

Cheers for the videos.

I didn't appreciate what an amazing ball it was from delph for the first. It couldn't have been any better.

And a super header. No chance for Howard
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on May 02, 2015, 06:46:34 PM
Lord Legion, I demand a GIF of the third goal......please.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on May 02, 2015, 06:49:04 PM
It's after the links to the first and second ones.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 02, 2015, 06:53:25 PM
The second Delph hit the cross I knew we were scoring. Although I only managed a "yes" to Leeg before it had even reached The Beast.

14 goals in our last 7 league games. Compared to the 12 in 25 under Mr Negative. it really is scary how much he was holding these players back.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: SashasGrandad on May 02, 2015, 06:58:51 PM
CLATTENBURG AWFUL.

The only Geordie doing anything to try and keep the Toon out of the bottom 3 - a penalty softer than the new Princess' backside, could not find his card to book some cynical Everton fouls, his eyes were full of tears in added time he missed the blatant foul on Given, then tried to add some more time to let them try for a third.

Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Risso on May 02, 2015, 07:02:22 PM
There seems to be a brilliant team spirit around the place as well.  Look at the way everybody celebrates the goals, nobody is left out and after Cleverley's goal, everybody seemed to be looking for where Bacuna was, after what was quite possibly the pass of the season.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: dave shelley on May 02, 2015, 07:02:59 PM
Anyone know if there is a Game of the Day on Sky tonight?

Yes, we're it.

Thanks OCD.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: junxs on May 02, 2015, 07:05:31 PM
Thanks Legion, very nice
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on May 02, 2015, 07:08:28 PM
To all the youngers out there, as I said to my son today, we're seeing something like the swashbuckling pirates that epitomised 70s Villa
Haven't been this excited for years.
No one, not even Battenberg , can spoil this moment.The brink of greatness beckons.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: curiousorange on May 02, 2015, 07:09:29 PM
I thought Everton deserved nothing from the game today - no goals, let alone points. Their name players were largely terrible, and only Lukaku moved up a gear after half time. Both goals were a combination of gift and luck, and that was a 3-0 home win with a less star-struck ref.

Some of the play by Villa today was pure poetry. Fabian Delph is the best midfielder in the league.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Leicester_Villian on May 02, 2015, 07:09:53 PM
Clattenburg attempted to keep the game flowing and to keep his cards in his pocket - they could have been several other cards for both sides but is that what we really want?

How many of us were closer that Clattenburg to both the penalty or the 2nd goal - I guess the majority posting would be in the Holte ........ great eyesight !

We can always disagree with a referee (I know only too well as referee myself) but to read him being slated on here tonite I do think is unfair
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: SashasGrandad on May 02, 2015, 07:10:00 PM
How many points now does a team need to avoid relegation ?

About 45?

If we ignore QPR and Burnley - Leicester can get a maximum of 43 - which is the lowest of the teams contesting the 3rd spot.

But they have to play Sunderland so if they win that Sunderland could only get 42. So that means by my maths we need 43 to be absolutely certain which we can only get by winning all 3 so Sir Tim is correct.

2 wins and a draw (7pts would give us 42) and I can't see all the others winning every game.

Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on May 02, 2015, 07:10:20 PM
Goal 2 (http://gfycat.com/CheapMeekApe)

Was Howard trying to claim offside then?
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: curiousorange on May 02, 2015, 07:11:24 PM
Clattenburg cooked his goose failing to even stop the game for the attempted colonoscopy on Delph, and went downhill from there.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: rougegorge on May 02, 2015, 07:13:26 PM
We'd never have played like that under Lambert. I am actually sitting on the edge of my seat when we go forward. Cleverly and Bacuna were very good and Delph was exceptional. I don't like to criticise the referees but he had a bad game. He let them take it in turns to foul then gestured to Baines he'd book him after another foul and then failed to do so.
Mark Halsey was saying Clattenburg should've been the referee for the cup final but on today's showing,  thank goodness he isn't.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Risso on May 02, 2015, 07:14:29 PM
Clattenburg attempted to keep the game flowing and to keep his cards in his pocket - they could have been several other cards for both sides but is that what we really want?

How many of us were closer that Clattenburg to both the penalty or the 2nd goal - I guess the majority posting would be in the Holte ........ great eyesight !

We can always disagree with a referee (I know only too well as referee myself) but to read him being slated on here tonite I do think is unfair

I expect a referee to officiate the game fairly and apply the laws of the game.  He had an abysmal game, and no, I don't want him to keep his cards in his pocket when Villa players are being assaulted.  He also missed all sorts, like the Everton player pulling Benteke back.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on May 02, 2015, 07:15:40 PM
Agreed. He had a shocker.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: nodge on May 02, 2015, 07:16:32 PM
"We've got our Villa back" ringing round the back of the Holte, excellent!
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Villa Lew on May 02, 2015, 07:16:50 PM
Brilliant win. Now Forest's season finished, do we get Gardner and Bent back? Would be useful additions to the squad, especially Darren, who's been scoring for fun lately.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on May 02, 2015, 07:18:17 PM
What a loathsome , underhand gecko Naismith is.Was hoping Hutton would have , ahem, taken him out.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: dave shelley on May 02, 2015, 07:19:49 PM
Not having seen the match, can I ask a serious question regarding the referee?  Were the questionable decisions the same for both sides?
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: paulcomben on May 02, 2015, 07:20:45 PM
Brilliant win. Now Forest's season finished, do we get Gardner and Bent back? Would be useful additions to the squad, especially Darren, who's been scoring for fun lately.


Derby fucked up though, didn't they. Only needed a draw for a play off place.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Leicester_Villian on May 02, 2015, 07:24:02 PM
Not having seen the match, can I ask a serious question regarding the referee?  Were the questionable decisions the same for both sides?
Yes because Clatts tries to keep the game flowing .....
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on May 02, 2015, 07:24:03 PM
Not having seen the match, can I ask a serious question regarding the referee?  Were the questionable decisions the same for both sides?
Put it this way.You've heard of a 'homer' .Today we had an 'awayer'.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: ktvillan on May 02, 2015, 07:25:49 PM
The through ball by Bacuna for the third was superb, great vision to spot the run, perfectly weighted and right in Cleverley's path.

I think if people are slagging the ref after a defeat or draw you could put some of it down to sour grapes.  However with so many feeling the need to criticise his performance after a good, exciting win, I'd say its a fairly safe bet that he had a shocker.   The foul by Coleman on Given was absolutely blatant and obvious, and should have been easily spotted by any ref with normal eyesight.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: SashasGrandad on May 02, 2015, 07:27:07 PM
Not having seen the match, can I ask a serious question regarding the referee?  Were the questionable decisions the same for both sides?

No

I used to referee school games and when our lot were being heavily beaten I used to save them getting too demoralized so know how a ref can favour one side - it was like that today.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 02, 2015, 07:30:26 PM
The ref was shit. I can't decide who I want to marry more, Delph, Benteke or Sherwood. So much manlove for them all!
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: saunders_heroes on May 02, 2015, 07:31:03 PM
Playing some fantastic football under Sherwood and at times we're a joy to watch.
Score line flattered Everton today and the less said about that bloody Ref the better.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: adrenachrome on May 02, 2015, 07:31:21 PM
God is on our side.

Quote

Paul McGrath ‏@Paulmcgrath5 2h2 hours ago

Aston Villa great result, proud of all of you we will remain in this League. You deserve to for the courage you've shown #tk you !
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: thick_mike on May 02, 2015, 07:31:25 PM
Will be good to see Gardner get some game time in the run in after returning from Forest now their season has finished!

I know, I know...just joking! 😄
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: saunders_heroes on May 02, 2015, 07:31:39 PM
The ref was shit. I can't decide who I want to marry more, Delph, Benteke or Sherwood. So much manlove for them all!

Well I want to adopt Grealish.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Pat McMahon on May 02, 2015, 07:40:30 PM
As I mentioned on another thread I'm always baffled when Murphy is accused of hating Villa or supposedly being happy when we lose, that's a massive load of bollocks. Over the years I've heard him say many complimentary things about Villa, I think people only hear what they want to hear sometimes.

I agree Chris, I think he simply tells it as it is. With humour too.

I thought we should have sewn the match up earlier - when we are winning we tend not to finish teams off when we are in really good 4v3 type situations, and instead play e ball around amongst ourselves for a while. I would pin Mr Wolf's comment in their ears : "it's a little too soon to sit around sucking each other's dicks."

Defensively we are still suspect and even defending in numbers doesn't guarantee us security. Needs working on in the summer.

I thought Clattenberg let too much go today. He is generally my favourite referee in the league but Everton seemed to have a rota for fouls and he did not deter them. No comment on the penalty or Thier second goal as they were at the opposite end to me.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: billhicks on May 02, 2015, 07:42:09 PM
Good performance today despite the ref watched it in a bar in lanzarote lager a pound a pint could get used to this only downside back home tomorrow
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Deano's Mullet on May 02, 2015, 07:48:37 PM
Excellent result, its nice to be back beating teams we always used to but struggled frequently against under Lambert, namely Spurs and Everton. Would have been a perfect day had it not been for the Sunderland result, they the only ones I think can possibly catch us but then Newcastle look totally vulnerable right now.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on May 02, 2015, 07:49:22 PM
I can't remember a season where the last few teams are winning so many.

I was talking about this just now, if you look at the bottom teams, they're all picking up points and most of them are showing a bit of spirit.

The glaring exception is Newcastle, who have lost eight in a row, look truly pathetic, and have such discord in-house that their manager has today accused one of their players of getting sent off deliberately.

If you need any extra cheer after today, go and have a look at a Newcastle forum.  I think it's safe to to say that they're not best pleased and I wouldn't want to be on duty in "the Toon" tonight!

My thoughts are with the Police horses who will be engaged in battle tonight with bare fisted fat topless men.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on May 02, 2015, 07:50:01 PM
Just back from the stadium, ears ringing, heart thumping, head spinning. Some of our football today was exceptional.
The referee had a Weston Super. Shocking.
My MOTM is cleverly, simply superb, as was Delph, Benteke , Grealish and equally westwood in for Sanchez added the solid foundation to beat a decent side.
Keep playing like this I think we can win our next 4 games.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 02, 2015, 07:50:30 PM
Are Everton the new Stoke? Awful side, how the smeg did they go on that run? All snide challenges and fouls. As for their 'support' how can so many make so little noise. Zero support for therm when they were behind apart from when they scored, and hardly any of them left to see their second. Utter wankpots, on and off the pitch.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Holte L2 on May 02, 2015, 07:51:14 PM
Anyone know if there is a Game of the Day on Sky tonight?

Yes. It's us! Just got back to Manchester. Was going to go out.
Sod that, I'm going to stay In, get a curry and watch that magnificent performance again!

Well done lads. Massive Man love for Cleverley, Benteke, Sherwood, Delph and Grealish!!!!!
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: class-of-82 on May 02, 2015, 07:51:58 PM
Get in villa you beauties

We used to be the adams family from wacky races with our football,big dark cloud hanging over us boring to watch.
Now we are the Penelope pit stop, good to look at smile on our faces great spirit
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: LeeB on May 02, 2015, 07:56:57 PM
There seems to be a brilliant team spirit around the place as well.  Look at the way everybody celebrates the goals, nobody is left out and after Cleverley's goal, everybody seemed to be looking for where Bacuna was, after what was quite possibly the pass of the season.

Watching from the Trinity, half the team ran to Delph after the first.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on May 02, 2015, 07:58:12 PM
Fine result and looking forward to Match of the Day. Although we need to stop conceding late goals.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: john e on May 02, 2015, 07:58:52 PM
Not read the thread, but Hodgson was watching today,
Must have been well impressed with our captain I would have thought
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on May 02, 2015, 07:59:50 PM
Are Everton the new Stoke? Awful side, how the smeg did they go on that run? All snide challenges and fouls. As for their 'support' how can so many make so little noise. Zero support for therm when they were behind apart from when they scored, and hardly any of them left to see their second. Utter wankpots, on and off the pitch.

When they were two down some of their supporters unveiled a 'Kenwright Out' banner. They've won 5 of the last 6 for God's sake, what are they expecting?
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on May 02, 2015, 08:00:29 PM
Fine result and looking forward to Match of the Day. Although we need to stop conceding late goals.
Shouldn't have counted as Given was fouled.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: CT on May 02, 2015, 08:02:20 PM
Just got back.

That was the most one-sided 3-2 you'll ever see. We played really, really well today, some great shifts put in with Delph and Cleverley being exceptional IMO. LB's pass for the third goal....wow.

How Everton scored twice I don't know, but Clattenburg did everything except put the ball in the net for them!
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on May 02, 2015, 08:05:21 PM
Are Everton the new Stoke? Awful side, how the smeg did they go on that run? All snide challenges and fouls. As for their 'support' how can so many make so little noise. Zero support for therm when they were behind apart from when they scored, and hardly any of them left to see their second. Utter wankpots, on and off the pitch.

When they were two down some of their supporters unveiled a 'Kenwright Out' banner. They've won 5 of the last 6 for God's sake, what are they expecting?

Yeah, but they've wanted him to sell-up to new investors for years, it's nothing to do with results.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on May 02, 2015, 08:08:23 PM
Are Everton the new Stoke? Awful side, how the smeg did they go on that run? All snide challenges and fouls. As for their 'support' how can so many make so little noise. Zero support for therm when they were behind apart from when they scored, and hardly any of them left to see their second. Utter wankpots, on and off the pitch.

When they were two down some of their supporters unveiled a 'Kenwright Out' banner. They've won 5 of the last 6 for God's sake, what are they expecting?

Yeah, but they've wanted him to sell-up to new investors for years, it's nothing to do with results.
He's been trying to sell for over 10 years. If there aren't any buyers
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 02, 2015, 08:09:52 PM
And I got my picture taken with Chris Woaks and a cricket trophy.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: frank on May 02, 2015, 08:11:00 PM
I think I probably agree that Delph was man of the match but Cleverley ran him close. He was everywhere, always wanted the ball and hardly made a mistake all game. What a transformation!
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: brian green on May 02, 2015, 08:12:46 PM
Just back.   The scoreline flattered Everton who worked out early on what a prick of a referee Clatterberg is and played accordingly.   We were very good and Delph, Cleverley and Westwood were very impressive.   We were very lucky not to pick up a serious long term injury from the way Everton were allowed to do much as they pleased.   One small niggling doubt is the bringing on of Sanchez for the final period.   It takes him so long to get his head up to speed I can almost see a goal to the opposition being flashed up when his number comes up on the subs board.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: West Derby Villan on May 02, 2015, 08:14:50 PM
We've got our Villa back! So proud of the lads today. The transformation under Sherwood is unbelievable. Not frightened of anyone now, amazing turn around with the same players we had 3 months ago. Well done Tim Sherwood, thank you
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on May 02, 2015, 08:16:11 PM
Well done Villa.  You have more faith in youeselves than I had in you for which I apologise.  Fcukin Sunderland drawing or losing would've made it perfect.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: martin o`who?? on May 02, 2015, 08:17:48 PM
Can someonel please tell me what this bloke is doing differently to the same group of players, the difference is astounding, the whole ethic is a galaxy ahead of what we've seen for the whole Lambert era. Tim Sherwood please in-box me because I have my missus/dog/house deeds/ fishing gear/entire worldly goods at your disposal son.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: john e on May 02, 2015, 08:26:08 PM
Did anyone have a count up of how many passes we put together during that bit in the second half,
Although we weren't going anywhere it must have been 50+
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on May 02, 2015, 08:26:16 PM
Can someonel please tell me what this bloke is doing differently to the same group of players, the difference is astounding, the whole ethic is a galaxy ahead of what we've seen for the whole Lambert era. Tim Sherwood please in-box me because I have my missus/dog/house deeds/ fishing gear/entire worldly goods at your disposal son.

I think it is becoming apparent Sherwood is a tactically very intelligent man. All his little tweaks each game seem sensible. He is a better motivator as well obviously, but the man just seems to be a deep thinker when it comes to how to best set out our team for each game.

I am surprised, but it seems to be the case.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on May 02, 2015, 08:27:00 PM
Sherwood has done a magnificent job.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on May 02, 2015, 08:34:33 PM
Just rewatching this game. My god clattenberg was awful. He was inviting everton players to foul more often in the first half, then rewarded them for it when they took him up on the offer in the second.

Scandalous. So glad he is not reefing the final. I have seen him have good games but today he was absurdly one sided.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on May 02, 2015, 08:46:05 PM
There is a theory that Clattenburg over compensates for Everton because I read somewhere that he didn't referee a game involving them for five years because of a controversial display in 2007.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on May 02, 2015, 08:51:21 PM
I believe it. I mean even down to little things like he was grinning and exchanging little jokes with barry & other Everton players, for Villa players just the scowl or "get up" gesture after they had been hacked down.

I am still angry about it even though we won! :)
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Ian. on May 02, 2015, 08:51:36 PM
I always said Lambert created a very good team. I underestimated him, he actually created a fantastic team and Sherwood is exploiting this very well. Well done Villa and Mr Sherwood your doing a very grand job.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on May 02, 2015, 08:52:24 PM
Yes it was a Liverpool-Everton game in 2007 when his decisions favoured Liverpool greatly.

I couldn't quite believe it took him under 70 minutes to book an Everton player given some of their challenges today.

I did chuckle though when the first Que Sera sera chant popped up today and the Everton fans actually gave that a round of applause for beating Liverpool.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Des Little on May 02, 2015, 08:53:23 PM
Great win, closer than it should have been. Clattenburg is a wanker.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on May 02, 2015, 08:55:53 PM
One good thing looking long term is we're starting to beat the likes of Spurs and Everton again as we've had dismal records against both in recent years seeing as we were pretty much neck and neck with both during the MON era so good to be getting wins against top half teams again which is important to raise the belief in the squad.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: charleeco7 on May 02, 2015, 08:56:16 PM
What a great day. My 2 1/2 year old lads first game and he loved it. Boys did us proud. Whatever happens we are having a bloody good go at teams. So much fight and can't ever remember us closedown teams like we do at the moment.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on May 02, 2015, 08:59:54 PM
Watching the extended highlights on Sky

The midfield there were all outstanding. That sort of Xmas tree formation we also played v Liverpool gives us a very different villa from the one I thought we might see under sherwood. Dominating the ball with a five man midfield and really suffocating teams that normally expect to monopolise the ball

I know it sounds odd but I didn't think the front three were that great today. Grealish looks very comfy and his set pieces have clearly improved. But I didn't think he was quite as good as previously

But overall that's just such a pleasing performance. We've come so far in such a short space of time

Still need to sort out the defending and habit of conceding late goals though
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Exeter 77 on May 02, 2015, 09:01:37 PM
The way Jack Grealish played in patches today against a team including Gareth Barry it seemed like a Villa protégé handing-over ceremony.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: saunders_heroes on May 02, 2015, 09:03:07 PM
The way Jack Grealish played in patches today against a team including Gareth Barry it seemed like a Villa protégé handing-over ceremony.

I think when once Grealish learns when to shoot we'll have a superstar.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: martin o`who?? on May 02, 2015, 09:03:51 PM
Sherwood has done a magnificent job.
hmmmm, you may have a point...
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: LeeB on May 02, 2015, 09:04:57 PM
The way Jack Grealish played in patches today against a team including Gareth Barry it seemed like a Villa protégé handing-over ceremony.

I think when once Grealish learns when to shoot we'll have a superstar.

I think we've got one anyway. He absolutely pisses all over Barkley, who plays like a talented chimp.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: bob on May 02, 2015, 09:06:46 PM
Newcastle are fucked!
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Villan For Life on May 02, 2015, 09:07:54 PM
We were wonderful today and played some excellent stuff. Clattenberg was awful and produced one of the worst refereeing displays at VP in years.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Mister E on May 02, 2015, 09:10:50 PM
Very impressed today and I kept saying to my mates why it was that Lambert became so up himself and limited with a squad that has talent. No one exemplified it more today than Westwood and Cleverley: they were great..
The team played magnificently today and it belies both our league position and Everton's recent form.
As a qualified ref, I rate Clattenberg as very poor today. He should have booked Naismith for persistent infringing in the first half; Mirallas for a blatant simulation soon after the dubious penalty-award; and Coleman for taking Grealish down in quick succession.
The final score flattered Everton, but the important thing is that we got three points.
And the fans today were superb; loved being there.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: andyh on May 02, 2015, 09:11:11 PM
Great result and performance although I could do with the 'added excitement' of a late goal to spice things up.
Totally agree with all the plaudits for Delph, Benteke, Grealish and Cleverley, but I thought Westwood had yet another terrific game before being subbed, he is another one who looks a different player with a new lease of life under Timmy.

On a separate tack, there were some nasty scenes in Witton Lane around 2.40. A load of Everton 'kids' came down, singing and being a bit leary.
Villa fans going into the Holte then responded, and it turned nasty for a couple of minutes with some nasty scrapping and charging at each other,and no sign of the old bill.
It calmed down after a couple of mins, but it was quite nasty.
It seemed that there were a number of coaches parked to by Aston church, and if these Everton fans were allowed to walk from there to the ground, unaccompanied, being as leary as that, then it's no surprise it kicked off.
The weirdest thing is that these Everyon lads really did look like lads, 16 or 17 and looked like a scruffy bunch of loudmouth chavs rather than a 'firm', and a few of them took a real beating.
Being so close to the ground, it really wasn't very pleasant at all.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Malandro on May 02, 2015, 09:15:31 PM
Great result and performance although I could do with the 'added excitement' of a late goal to spice things up.
Totally agree with all the plaudits for Delph, Benteke, Grealish and Cleverley, but I thought Westwood had yet another terrific game before being subbed, he is another one who looks a different player with a new lease of life under Timmy.

On a separate tack, there were some nasty scenes in Witton Lane around 2.40. A load of Everton 'kids' came down, singing and being a bit leary.
Villa fans going into the Holte then responded, and it turned nasty for a couple of minutes with some nasty scrapping and charging at each other,and no sign of the old bill.
It calmed down after a couple of mins, but it was quite nasty.
It seemed that there were a number of coaches parked to by Aston church, and if these Everton fans were allowed to walk from there to the ground, unaccompanied, being as leary as that, then it's no surprise it kicked off.
The weirdest thing is that these Everyon lads really did look like lads, 16 or 17 and looked like a scruffy bunch of loudmouth chavs rather than a 'firm', and a few of them took a real beating.
Being so close to the ground, it really wasn't very pleasant at all.

Oh dear that's not good to hear, should be all on camera at least
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: remy on May 02, 2015, 09:16:48 PM
Wow. Simply Wow.

What an entertaining game. I would buy that whole 90 mins on dvd.

Delph - Best midfielder in the country by a mile. Jack Wilshire? Do me a favour.

Benteke - unstoppable, unplayable, unsellable.

Cleverly - Dynamo in that midfield.

Clatterphuk- should be carrying his balls home in a sling....if he had any

If Bacuna played for the capital clubs the wankfest for that pass for the 3rd goal would have been immeasurable.

Back four - Come on lads tighten it up a bit Qpr, man shitty and nearly today.

Fans - Place was rocking.

The racists were a team extremely in form and we took them apart in the first half. Brilliant.

I just watched a team in claret and blue play the most attacking, vibrant beautiful football. Pass after pass, ole! Goals! Teamwork! Fantastic performances!

I'm so happy I could cry. I love you Villa.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: tomd2103 on May 02, 2015, 09:19:41 PM
We were wonderful today and played some excellent stuff. Clattenberg was awful and produced one of the worst refereeing displays at VP in years.

We certainly did, especially in the first half.  If you look at their starting XI today it was a pretty strong side, so it wasn't a bunch of mugs we've beaten.  Special mention for Delph today and Bacuna's ball for the third goal was probably our pass of the season so far. 
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Pat McMahon on May 02, 2015, 09:35:35 PM

On a separate tack, there were some nasty scenes in Witton Lane around 2.40. A load of Everton 'kids' came down, singing and being a bit leary.
Villa fans going into the Holte then responded, and it turned nasty for a couple of minutes with some nasty scrapping and charging at each other,and no sign of the old bill.
It calmed down after a couple of mins, but it was quite nasty.
It seemed that there were a number of coaches parked to by Aston church, and if these Everton fans were allowed to walk from there to the ground, unaccompanied, being as leary as that, then it's no surprise it kicked off.
The weirdest thing is that these Everyon lads really did look like lads, 16 or 17 and looked like a scruffy bunch of loudmouth chavs rather than a 'firm', and a few of them took a real beating.
Being so close to the ground, it really wasn't very pleasant at all.

I saw that too just as I was going in to the Holte -just before kick off.

There was a group of maybe 15 lairy young Everton fans like you say, probably 17-18 years old. An older Villa fan in a short sleeve retro away shirt was standing up to a few of them - he told me one of them came up behind him and punched him. There was a young Villa fan, who only looked about 14-15 who waded in throwing punches like a whirlwind.

As andyh says above, no cops to be seen but what I saw didn't last long.

Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: tomd2103 on May 02, 2015, 09:40:06 PM

On a separate tack, there were some nasty scenes in Witton Lane around 2.40. A load of Everton 'kids' came down, singing and being a bit leary.
Villa fans going into the Holte then responded, and it turned nasty for a couple of minutes with some nasty scrapping and charging at each other,and no sign of the old bill.
It calmed down after a couple of mins, but it was quite nasty.
It seemed that there were a number of coaches parked to by Aston church, and if these Everton fans were allowed to walk from there to the ground, unaccompanied, being as leary as that, then it's no surprise it kicked off.
The weirdest thing is that these Everyon lads really did look like lads, 16 or 17 and looked like a scruffy bunch of loudmouth chavs rather than a 'firm', and a few of them took a real beating.
Being so close to the ground, it really wasn't very pleasant at all.

I saw that too just as I was going in to the Holte -just before kick off.

There was a group of maybe 15 lairy young Everton fans like you say, probably 17-18 years old. An older Villa fan in a short sleeve retro away shirt was standing up to a few of them - he told me one of them came up behind him and punched him. There was a young Villa fan, who only looked about 14-15 who waded in throwing punches like a whirlwind.

As andyh says above, no cops to be seen but what I saw didn't last long.

The bloke sitting next to me in the North Stand was talking about it when he came in just before kick off.  He said it was so e if the worst fighting he had seen at a game for some time.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on May 02, 2015, 09:41:43 PM

On a separate tack, there were some nasty scenes in Witton Lane around 2.40. A load of Everton 'kids' came down, singing and being a bit leary.
Villa fans going into the Holte then responded, and it turned nasty for a couple of minutes with some nasty scrapping and charging at each other,and no sign of the old bill.
It calmed down after a couple of mins, but it was quite nasty.
It seemed that there were a number of coaches parked to by Aston church, and if these Everton fans were allowed to walk from there to the ground, unaccompanied, being as leary as that, then it's no surprise it kicked off.
The weirdest thing is that these Everyon lads really did look like lads, 16 or 17 and looked like a scruffy bunch of loudmouth chavs rather than a 'firm', and a few of them took a real beating.
Being so close to the ground, it really wasn't very pleasant at all.

I saw that too just as I was going in to the Holte -just before kick off.

There was a group of maybe 15 lairy young Everton fans like you say, probably 17-18 years old. An older Villa fan in a short sleeve retro away shirt was standing up to a few of them - he told me one of them came up behind him and punched him. There was a young Villa fan, who only looked about 14-15 who waded in throwing punches like a whirlwind.

As andyh says above, no cops to be seen but what I saw didn't last long.

The bloke sitting next to me in the North Stand was talking about it when he came in just before kick off.  He said it was so e if the worst fighting he had seen at a game for some time.

He hasn't seen much then. Half a dozen punches and a traffic cone thrown in front of an audience on the steps.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: pooligan on May 02, 2015, 09:43:42 PM
Great  performance from the Villa boys against twelve men, Clangerberg may as well have had a Everton shirt on.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: the-farmer on May 02, 2015, 09:44:33 PM
Brilliant game

I used to think Clattenburg liked us, I now know he likes Everton more, having said that, from upper Holte I couldn't see anything of their penalty decision or 2nd goal

Cleverly's run & goal reminded me of Platt 25 years ago
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Kingthing on May 02, 2015, 09:48:14 PM

Took my son to his first game today, Had a cracking day in the family zone then walked round the pitch, had his name on the scoreboard and a great game. Delph took the piss today, had a couple of their defenders been smoking pot? they either kept falling over or mis-hitting clearances.     
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: john e on May 02, 2015, 09:50:22 PM
I was in the lower north, i thought it was a penalty
Vlaar took his legs as he was fumbling around on the floor,

it all stems From the fact we seemingly find it impossible to clear the ball cleanly and effectively when inside the box, otherwise known as putting your foot through it
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: andyh on May 02, 2015, 09:52:34 PM

On a separate tack, there were some nasty scenes in Witton Lane around 2.40. A load of Everton 'kids' came down, singing and being a bit leary.
Villa fans going into the Holte then responded, and it turned nasty for a couple of minutes with some nasty scrapping and charging at each other,and no sign of the old bill.
It calmed down after a couple of mins, but it was quite nasty.
It seemed that there were a number of coaches parked to by Aston church, and if these Everton fans were allowed to walk from there to the ground, unaccompanied, being as leary as that, then it's no surprise it kicked off.
The weirdest thing is that these Everyon lads really did look like lads, 16 or 17 and looked like a scruffy bunch of loudmouth chavs rather than a 'firm', and a few of them took a real beating.
Being so close to the ground, it really wasn't very pleasant at all.

I saw that too just as I was going in to the Holte -just before kick off.

There was a group of maybe 15 lairy young Everton fans like you say, probably 17-18 years old. An older Villa fan in a short sleeve retro away shirt was standing up to a few of them - he told me one of them came up behind him and punched him. There was a young Villa fan, who only looked about 14-15 who waded in throwing punches like a whirlwind.

As andyh says above, no cops to be seen but what I saw didn't last long.

The bloke sitting next to me in the North Stand was talking about it when he came in just before kick off.  He said it was so e if the worst fighting he had seen at a game for some time.

He hasn't seen much then. Half a dozen punches and a traffic cone thrown in front of an audience on the steps.
You must be battle hardened.
I saw one kid take a flying kick to the head and was in a bad way.
It was the worst I've seen for a long, long time.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: pooligan on May 02, 2015, 09:53:30 PM
By the way someone earlier asked how many passes there were we had in that spell of two minutes or so. Listening to it on Talksport it said  it was 40
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: the-farmer on May 02, 2015, 09:55:30 PM
By the way someone earlier asked how many passes there were we had in that spell of two minutes or so. Listening to it on Talksport it said  it was 40

It seemed like we had possession for 3-4 minutes

Absolutely stunning
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on May 02, 2015, 09:55:58 PM

You must be battle hardened.
I saw one kid take a flying kick to the head and was in a bad way.
It was the worst I've seen for a long, long time.


Everybody seemed fine to me. If they want to do it let them get on with it.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: the-farmer on May 02, 2015, 09:59:02 PM
There was a hooligan chucked out of Upper Holte by stewards midway through the first half

What was that all about ? Was he a Scouser ?
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: VillaAlways on May 02, 2015, 09:59:34 PM
There was a hooligan chucked out of Upper Holte by stewards midway through the first half

What was that all about ? Was he a Scouser ?
Yes
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Rudy65 on May 02, 2015, 10:06:07 PM
My son reckoned Clattenberg had forgotten his cards so late was he in actually showing one. He had a shocker.

VP was rocking today. Pass of the season from Bacuna, great finish from Tom. I thought he had taken a heavy first touch, next thing, its in the onion bag. Quality. Big goal as Everton were on top at that stage.

Still cant believe we aren't safe after the last 6 to 8 week performances.

Big game again next week.

Love my footy again

As the Holte chanted...... We have our Aston Villa back
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: the-farmer on May 02, 2015, 10:06:47 PM
There was a hooligan chucked out of Upper Holte by stewards midway through the first half

What was that all about ? Was he a Scouser ?
Yes

Thanks
I was a bit worried we might miss something on the pitch while we were all shouting wanker at him !
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on May 02, 2015, 10:07:02 PM
Just seen an interview with Sherwood and he said we're prepared to win all our games, love his confidence
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: john e on May 02, 2015, 10:07:53 PM
One things for sure, we would have been goners by now with Lambo
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Rudy65 on May 02, 2015, 10:11:34 PM
One things for sure, we would have been goners by now with Lambo


Past tense.........GONE
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on May 02, 2015, 10:13:43 PM
That move we created towards the end of the game was absolute total football. Crowd were superb today, loud and non stop, a wall of noise.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: joe_c on May 02, 2015, 10:15:18 PM
Just rewatching this game. My god clattenberg was awful. He was inviting everton players to foul more often in the first half, then rewarded them for it when they took him up on the offer in the second.

Scandalous. So glad he is not reefing the final. I have seen him have good games but today he was absurdly one sided.

He's always favoured the bigger club, such as here for example (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaCGd9qRVgI#t=35m10s) where he plays a small but amusing part in the build up to the opening goal, so not sure what got into him today.

More seriously, I hate watching us defend. Hate it.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: peter w on May 02, 2015, 10:15:32 PM
I thought Clattenburg was okay to be honest. their 2nd was a foul but given should have been stronger and there should have also been a defender there also. Our defending really is poor at times which is what could still really hurt us.

but great win. against the form team. We got at them from the start and 3-2 flattered them not us. Its great watching a Villa team looking to hurt teams, and looking like we can, no matter who we play. i hope Sherwood isn't a Gregory and if we stay up this is the start of a Villa team that over the last 4 games has resonated Villa of 77.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on May 02, 2015, 10:19:50 PM
Thought Vlaar was our weak link today. Until Sanchez came on.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on May 02, 2015, 10:34:02 PM
Okore did well - but he takes a lot of liberties!
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: nodge on May 02, 2015, 10:36:35 PM
Just watched it on Sky game of the day and if you watch carefully in the second half, McCarthy is trying to get the ball off Jack and falls on his arse just by their area, the crowd cheer, Jack turns around and sees him, passes the ball and starts laughing. Love his confidence.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: CorkVilla on May 02, 2015, 10:36:41 PM
Are we on MOTD tonight? Our game wasn't mentioned at the start.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on May 02, 2015, 10:39:21 PM
There was a hooligan chucked out of Upper Holte by stewards midway through the first half

What was that all about ? Was he a Scouser ?
Pissed or off his head more like.Saw him arguing the toss with coppers right by the smoking area afterwards
Why they didn't do it somewhere else god knows.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on May 02, 2015, 10:39:53 PM
 :P
Are we on MOTD tonight? Our game wasn't mentioned at the start.
They're probably gutted we won so leaving us out.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Pat McMahon on May 02, 2015, 10:43:01 PM
That move we created towards the end of the game was absolute total football. Crowd were superb today, loud and non stop, a wall of noise.

The Brigada boys seemed to make a lot of noise all game but Elsewhere I thought the atmosphere was average in the first half ( I was upper Holte left side).

Through the whole game I heard the Everton fans once. Very poor support given their good turnout.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: exigo on May 02, 2015, 10:47:37 PM
Lost two hours of my life because of train delays around Coventry, and I had to endure Clattenburg's performance.
But still more than outweighed by meeting Des Bremner and being on a rocking Holte. I love goals that you're in a direct line with – and Cleverly's would have hit me in the face if the net wasn't there. Beauty.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on May 02, 2015, 10:47:59 PM
That move we created towards the end of the game was absolute total football. Crowd were superb today, loud and non stop, a wall of noise.

The Brigada boys seemed to make a lot of noise all game but Elsewhere I thought the atmosphere was average in the first half ( I was upper Holte left side).

Through the whole game I heard the Everton fans once. Very poor support given their good turnout.
I was there too.Thought we were magnificent.Loud and proud.
Upper K5 houses The Undatables.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: not3bad on May 02, 2015, 10:56:51 PM
Given clearly impeded for their second at the end.

Just watched on MOTD.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on May 02, 2015, 11:04:42 PM
Watching from Upper Witton End I thought Given was soft in not being able to push Coleman out of the way and get to the ball to clear it properly however having seen it on MotD Coleman clearly held his arm to hold him down. A foul that should have been spotted by Clattenburg.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: CJ on May 02, 2015, 11:06:51 PM
Given clearly impeded for their second at the end.

Just watched on MOTD.
Yeah took special interest in both their goals. The penalty decision was probably fair enough, but for their second Coleman clearly held Given down - he had his hand in the crook of his arm and Given couldn't get off the ground. How Clattenburg couldn't see that simply beggars belief
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on May 02, 2015, 11:26:38 PM
Murphy said it was 51 passes and two minutes of possession, although our best bit of football was when we ripped them apart down the right wih Hutton crossing.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: john2710 on May 02, 2015, 11:31:41 PM
Clattenberg was awful today, but that's ok as it's not like there's anything at stake, give or take Ł60-70m. He normally refs well to be honest, but Everton are exactly the type of team to exploit his ability to turn a blind eye & push things to the limit.

Great team performance, a few moments of worry but we should have been much more comfortable. Delph was immense. 
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: joe_c on May 02, 2015, 11:37:47 PM
Murphy said it was 51 passes and two minutes of possession, although our best bit of football was when we ripped them apart down the right wih Hutton crossing.

Which didn't make it onto the highlights on MOTD. Fuckers.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: curiousorange on May 02, 2015, 11:41:25 PM
Murphy said it was 51 passes and two minutes of possession, although our best bit of football was when we ripped them apart down the right wih Hutton crossing.

Which didn't make it onto the highlights on MOTD. Fuckers.

Neither did the Grealish-McCarthy incident which is doing the rounds on Twitter.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: robbo1874 on May 03, 2015, 12:28:42 AM
Newcastle look fucked/ lost the last 5 according to the Graun. Love to see them go again for the comedy value of fat weeping bare chested Geordies.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Karlos96 on May 03, 2015, 12:36:05 AM
Newcastle look fucked/ lost the last 5 according to the Graun. Love to see them go again for the comedy value of fat weeping bare chested Geordies.

It's worse than that they've lost the last 8, typically it was us they got their last win against, I still don't know how we managed to lose to that shower.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: tomd2103 on May 03, 2015, 12:37:45 AM
Newcastle look fucked/ lost the last 5 according to the Graun. Love to see them go again for the comedy value of fat weeping bare chested Geordies.

Carver is way out of his depth and looked close to tears during the post match interview. 
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Dave on May 03, 2015, 12:38:37 AM
Newcastle look fucked/ lost the last 5 according to the Graun. Love to see them go again for the comedy value of fat weeping bare chested Geordies.

It's worse than that they've lost the last 7
We'll get the right answer in the end - today was their eighth defeat in a row. Which I think takes one of Lambert's unpleasant records for the season away from us.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: darren woolley on May 03, 2015, 12:54:37 AM
Good result for us another three points towards safety what would we do without Benteke.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: mr woo on May 03, 2015, 12:57:55 AM
Came away from the Man Shitty defeat feeling confident that we'd stay up. That's genuinely the first time this season I've felt that way which, considering we'd just lost was a bit odd.

So I have to say that after another brilliant display today I'm disappointed not to be effectively assured of safety. Such is zlife. This time next week I think we will be virtually ok.

As for today's game....

delph - brilliant and I'm convinced he's not finished developing yet.

Grealish- the best kid to come through since Gabby without doubt. He has bags more talent....time will tell how he uses it.

Sherwood - fantastic for his bravado and enthusiasm alone.

Negatives? Shaky defence still. Vlaar and Okore haven't gelled yet. Sorry but Given has had his day. The pen was saveable and although he was impeded he should have had enough spring to make the ball safe for their second. I will concede though, I would also have dropped Guzan. New keeper inwards this summer?
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: ROBBO on May 03, 2015, 01:43:56 AM
Watched the Newcastle game before Villa, what a mess they are in Carver, is clueless and i had the strong impression the two players sent of were very happy to walk, they are us before Sherwood and as the commentator said they will not get another point this season.

I got very worried when Everton scored their first as it seemed our defence was starting to panick and i could see an equaliser coming but our third was one of our goals of the season, and what about Cleverley?
shops are running out of flour as there is so much humble pie being cooked.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: The Left Side on May 03, 2015, 02:18:03 AM
I loved Grealish's fake that put McCarthy on his backside, what a player he will be.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: --1982-- on May 03, 2015, 02:26:03 AM
I loved Grealish's fake that put McCarthy on his backside, what a player he will be.

Made all the more special by jack visibly laughing and chuckling as he laid the ball off. Cannot wait to see him score his first goal. Also throwing his shirt into the Holte after the game was a nice touch, we love him and he loves us! Super jack super jack...super jack grealish!
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: robbo1874 on May 03, 2015, 03:14:27 AM
Early days I know, but Grealish looks the real deal. His future is at his feet- so mature and composed for a youngster. Hopefully touch wood, he steers clear of injury and doesn't get all billy big bollocks. Best English player going at the moment in my view ( Delph runs hima close 2nd)
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: robbo1874 on May 03, 2015, 03:26:42 AM
Early days I know, but Grealish looks the real deal. His future is at his feet- so mature and composed for a youngster. Hopefully touch wood, he steers clear of injury and doesn't get all billy big bollocks. Best English player going at the moment in my view ( Delph runs hima close 2nd) sorry- double post
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: London Villan on May 03, 2015, 04:06:53 AM
Its hardly humble pie though... Cleverly was pretty useless up until 7 games ago.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: tom jennings III on May 03, 2015, 04:47:42 AM
We go again
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Villafirst on May 03, 2015, 05:57:01 AM
After watching it back on Sky and MOTD, Given was fouled by Coleman for their secon - he was holding Given by the arm. Useless Clattenberg missed that and several other blatant fouls. We definitely played against 12 men.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on May 03, 2015, 06:21:47 AM
Murphy said it was 51 passes and two minutes of possession, although our best bit of football was when we ripped them apart down the right wih Hutton crossing.
Yes it was but Hutton made a very poor cross that Jagielka cleared with the Beast prowling on the penalty spot on his own!
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on May 03, 2015, 06:53:10 AM
Its hardly humble pie though... Cleverly was pretty useless up until 7 games ago.

He started ok but then was poor, partly due to playing out of position a lot

There were plenty who decided he was fundamentally shit, rather than just playing badly though.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on May 03, 2015, 07:00:09 AM
its funny that I've just changed my gorgeous little one and the contents of his nappy bore a similar resemblance to Mark Clatenburg's performance. He was literally their best player.

A shame that we've all had to mention this, but the lack of protection offered to Delph, for the five times he was hacked down, the cynical way that Everton generally went about their business that went unpunished caused much annoyance on the Holte End. He tried to let the game flow, but at the expense of common sense.

Our performance however, was very good, especially the first half. While we didn't cave out a stack of chances, we really should have been three up within the first 45. I checked the stats on my phone at half time which confirmed my recollection that Everton had not had a kick around our half; no shots and no corners. We completely bosses them possession wise and positionally, always looking like we carried a threat.

Sherwood had identified their huge weakness; the arial ball. Jagelika isn't international standard and Stones was equally bullied. Second half they came into it a little more, but Given didn't have to exert himself and it was only our panick on an occasion or two that caused trouble.

Our much deserved third was sublime. Grealish continues to look impressive. For Everton, it was like trying to defend against Batman, as he pops up here there and everywhere and vanishes away from the opposition in an instant. He sat McCarthy on his backside with effortless aplomb.

Delph was excellent, Cleverley too, who we must sign up. N'Zogbia's positional play created space for him and both Grealish and Benteke. A great performance.

The way we sliced them open down the right in the second was sensational football. I'd love to see them move back.

It's been a longtime since I have enjoyed a home performance quite so much, but it had the feeling of routine about it, as if this was the standard. You're going to come to Villa Park and have to be very good to beat us, as it should be. Hopefully that comes true.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on May 03, 2015, 07:08:07 AM
It was just a very thorough, comfortable home win against A side in form

If we stopped giving away stupid goals in every single game it would help a lot though. As I said prior to the game, we're having to be two to three goals better than teams to beat them at the moment. We're missing Clark a lot and who would have thought that at the start of the season?
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on May 03, 2015, 07:10:07 AM
The exciting thing is that we have other players who offer an attacking threat, Gabby and Sinclair, who weren't even out there yesterday but give us options as well.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on May 03, 2015, 07:12:37 AM
I would definitely do what we can to entice Cleverley and Sinclair to sign. Add another couple of bodies to the midfield in addition and we will be strong enough in that department to cope with our European commitments.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: brian green on May 03, 2015, 07:24:31 AM
Among the many transformations the greatest miracle to me is how we have become so good to watch. Benteke's first goal from Delph's cross was was straight out of the textbook, I quote, "jump four feet in the air, hover there for two seconds, look where the goalie with upside down head is and bullet the ball past him".
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Dave on May 03, 2015, 07:29:12 AM
https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/attachments/upload_2015-5-2_10-47-40-png.8830/

Impressive marking for Benteke's second. At least Barry was doing a good job to make sure Stones wasn't going to score.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: pooligan on May 03, 2015, 07:58:56 AM
The thing that has amazed me more than anything since Sherwood arrived is how we have gone from a team who just could not score and did not look like scoring,to a team that looks like they could score every time they attack.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: rob_bridge on May 03, 2015, 08:14:28 AM
Vilka are back.

Brilliant win.

Onwards
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on May 03, 2015, 08:16:44 AM
https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/attachments/upload_2015-5-2_10-47-40-png.8830/

Impressive marking for Benteke's second. At least Barry was doing a good job to make sure Stones wasn't going to score.
Yes quite. They both obviously went for  Okore in the first place and than got in each others way.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on May 03, 2015, 08:31:08 AM
I loved Grealish's fake that put McCarthy on his backside, what a player he will be.
Anyone vine it ?
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: brian green on May 03, 2015, 09:25:05 AM
It was like the Ali Shuffle putting Sonny Liston on his arse. One for the scrapbook of great Villa moments.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on May 03, 2015, 09:26:29 AM
It was like the Ali Shuffle putting Sonny Liston on his arse. One for the scrapbook of great Villa moments.
Think he had a little chuckle too.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Jimbo on May 03, 2015, 09:29:28 AM
Jack reminded me of a matador when he put McCarthy on his arse. Such arrogance. There was a touch of George Best about him too.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: tom jennings III on May 03, 2015, 09:39:55 AM
I loved Grealish's fake that put McCarthy on his backside, what a player he will be.
Anyone vine it ?

Here you are, no idea who Jason Price is but a lovely vine:
https://vine.co/v/e72263rZ2BF
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on May 03, 2015, 09:42:09 AM
I loved Grealish's fake that put McCarthy on his backside, what a player he will be.
Anyone vine it ?

Here you are, no idea who Jason Price is but a lovely vine:
https://vine.co/v/e72263rZ2BF
Cheers
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: brian green on May 03, 2015, 09:54:44 AM
A measure of how one sidedly bad Clattenberg was that it took him a whole game to realize that Everton intended to clog us into submission and he still missed the blatant foul on Given for their second.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on May 03, 2015, 09:55:07 AM
Another decent win and performance. A lot of us said that there was a decent team there and now it's showing. Delph and Cleverley really make the team tick with their energy.

As for the ref, he was appalling bad. The penalty was dubious enough but there was one foul he gave against Benteke which was just ridiculous and telling Grealish to get up after being fouled twice in the space of 10 seconds was just arrogance. Thank god he's not reffing the cup final.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Malandro on May 03, 2015, 10:05:46 AM
Another decent win and performance. A lot of us said that there was a decent team there and now it's showing. Delph and Cleverley really make the team tick with their energy.

As for the ref, he was appalling bad. The penalty was dubious enough but there was one foul he gave against Benteke which was just ridiculous and telling Grealish to get up after being fouled twice in the space of 10 seconds was just arrogance. Thank god he's not reffing the cup final.

It was the Jack one that pissed me off, the first incident he was straight back on his feet.
He certainly gave clattenburg a good glare.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Joshua Fineman on May 03, 2015, 10:15:36 AM
I loved Grealish's fake that put McCarthy on his backside, what a player he will be.
Anyone vine it ?

Here you are, no idea who Jason Price is but a lovely vine:
https://vine.co/v/e72263rZ2BF

Could watch that all day..
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Gregorys Boy on May 03, 2015, 10:21:27 AM
Think we need to lay off Clattenburg a bit, he is by far the best ref in the country right now and one iffy game doesn't change that.

Anyway, it really was a good performance and a bit result for us.  Everton are a good side, in good form, and with a great recent record at VP. It was good that we were able to carry the performance level over from last week, and Benteke kept his impressive run going, and Cleverly's goal should just add to his growing confiderence too.

Its a big step to us staying up, its still tight down there.  I would say a couple more points should do it.  Personally I think we will beat West Ham next week and that will be the issue settled and we can just look forward to the final then.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Dave on May 03, 2015, 10:32:16 AM
Think we need to lay off Clattenburg a bit, he is by far the best ref in the country right now and one iffy game doesn't change that.
We don't have to lay off him at all. I don't really care how he performs against other teams, if he is a shit ref when we play then that's what matters.

And on what grounds is he the 'best ref in the country'?
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on May 03, 2015, 10:34:06 AM
Think we need to lay off Clattenburg a bit, he is by far the best ref in the country right now and one iffy game doesn't change that.
We don't have to lay off him at all. I don't really care how he performs against other teams, if he is a shit ref when we play then that's what matters.

And on what grounds is he the 'best ref in the country'?

Yep, i think 'best ref in the country' is stretching it a bit. 
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Gregorys Boy on May 03, 2015, 10:34:44 AM
On the grounds of this season I say.  Do you disagree with that?  Fair enough if so.

On your other point, everyone has bad games.  I'm sure he has been in change of us more than once this season and 9 times out 10 he does a really good job, it was just bad for us that we caught him on an off day.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: damon loves JT on May 03, 2015, 10:36:19 AM
One things for sure, we would have been goners by now with Lambo

without six points against Spurs and Everton we would be on the brink in any case.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on May 03, 2015, 10:36:53 AM
Clatterfuck had a woeful game, giving them everything unfairly. He looked so excited to give them the pen, he couldn't point to the spot quickly enough.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Gregorys Boy on May 03, 2015, 10:38:59 AM
Think we need to lay off Clattenburg a bit, he is by far the best ref in the country right now and one iffy game doesn't change that.
We don't have to lay off him at all. I don't really care how he performs against other teams, if he is a shit ref when we play then that's what matters.

And on what grounds is he the 'best ref in the country'?

Yep, i think 'best ref in the country' is stretching it a bit. 

For a long time I think Webb has been, but Clatterberg has been progressing a lot, and based on this seasons form has taken the spot I think.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Monty on May 03, 2015, 10:41:38 AM
I actually agree, whenever I've seen Clattenburg I've usually been very impressed. That's all the more reason to have a go at him for yesterday, though, because that was a bit of a shocker (though the penalty was a fair decision, I think).

I liked the MOTD analysis, for once. It's interesting how we really are playing a sort of diamond, but with all sorts of freedom for the front players which Phil Neville demonstrated. I also liked how Murphy emphasised the variety in our play, because I think the high balls to Benteke which they showed were the only ones we played all match, actually - it was mostly football along the lines of the 51-pass move. As Sherwood said, they're passing well and quickly.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on May 03, 2015, 10:44:45 AM
He looked so excited to give them the pen, he couldn't point to the spot quickly enough.

I said the same thing yesterday.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Dave on May 03, 2015, 10:45:42 AM
On the grounds of this season I say.  Do you disagree with that?  Fair enough if so.
I just have no idea what you are basing it on. He's been in charge of three of our games and around forty overall.

Was he particularly good in Leicester - West Ham? Hull -Swansea? Stoke - Everton? Southampton - QPR? West Brom - Palace? What's he done better in those forty-odd games that the others haven't that makes him 'by far the best'?
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on May 03, 2015, 10:46:35 AM
What month is Sherwood getting sacked again next season Dave? :)
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Dave on May 03, 2015, 10:49:16 AM
What month is Sherwood getting sacked again next season Dave? :)
He's leaving in March to take the vacant Man Utd job, obvs.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on May 03, 2015, 10:55:26 AM
What month is Sherwood getting sacked again next season Dave? :)
He's leaving in March to take the vacant Man Utd job, obvs.

*waddles off to the Bookies.*
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Des Little on May 03, 2015, 10:55:40 AM
Think we need to lay off Clattenburg a bit, he is by far the best ref in the country right now and one iffy game doesn't change that.
We don't have to lay off him at all. I don't really care how he performs against other teams, if he is a shit ref when we play then that's what matters.

And on what grounds is he the 'best ref in the country'?

He's a poseur with a strong sense of self importance. No referee should want to be the star of the show, yet he does. And as yesterday proved, he's not a very good referee in any case.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on May 03, 2015, 11:10:38 AM
Clattenberg was awful today, but that's ok as it's not like there's anything at stake, give or take Ł60-70m. He normally refs well to be honest, but Everton are exactly the type of team to exploit his ability to turn a blind eye & push things to the limit.

Great team performance, a few moments of worry but we should have been much more comfortable. Delph was immense. 

I bet on us at 3 1 . oh well 3 pts but clattenburg is still a ####
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on May 03, 2015, 11:18:36 AM
Think we need to lay off Clattenburg a bit, he is by far the best ref in the country right now and one iffy game doesn't change that.
We don't have to lay off him at all. I don't really care how he performs against other teams, if he is a shit ref when we play then that's what matters.

And on what grounds is he the 'best ref in the country'?

He's a poseur with a strong sense of self importance. No referee should want to be the star of the show, yet he does. And as yesterday proved, he's not a very good referee in any case.

I agree totally. A strutting peacock of a referee and appalling. Not for the first time too by a long chalk. If he's the best ref in the country, then Lambert is the best manager.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: damon loves JT on May 03, 2015, 11:25:18 AM
what bothered me watching the highlights was that sneaky little twat Naismith wheedling on and on at Vlaar, clearly trying to convince him that he `had every right' to go down under that challenge. They want to clog our players, and then go down at the lightest contact.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Damo70 on May 03, 2015, 11:29:43 AM
Think we need to lay off Clattenburg a bit, he is by far the best ref in the country right now and one iffy game doesn't change that.
We don't have to lay off him at all. I don't really care how he performs against other teams, if he is a shit ref when we play then that's what matters.

And on what grounds is he the 'best ref in the country'?

Yep, i think 'best ref in the country' is stretching it a bit. 

For a long time I think Webb has been, but Clatterberg has been progressing a lot, and based on this seasons form has taken the spot I think.


I agree on Clattenburg. I thought he was a poor ref when he started in the PL but he has progressed a lot and I started thinking last season that he was the best ref in the league.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Ron Manager on May 03, 2015, 11:34:36 AM
Think we need to lay off Clattenburg a bit, he is by far the best ref in the country right now and one iffy game doesn't change that.
We don't have to lay off him at all. I don't really care how he performs against other teams, if he is a shit ref when we play then that's what matters.

And on what grounds is he the 'best ref in the country'?

He's a poseur with a strong sense of self importance. No referee should want to be the star of the show, yet he does. And as yesterday proved, he's not a very good referee in any case.

He chose this match to have his worst game of the season. He does have a very big ego and no doubt thought he was very good indeed.
Unfortunately for us he was very poor.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Colhint on May 03, 2015, 11:37:35 AM
Bugger everything, we are just playing miles better than before. I think Arsenal wished 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' had won the semi now.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Percy McCarthy on May 03, 2015, 11:46:57 AM
Yes it was a Liverpool-Everton game in 2007 when his decisions favoured Liverpool greatly.

I couldn't quite believe it took him under 70 minutes to book an Everton player given some of their challenges today.

I did chuckle though when the first Que Sera sera chant popped up today and the Everton fans actually gave that a round of applause for beating Liverpool.

Yes, me too. I saw one outside in a t-shirt that made me laugh as well. It said 'I'd Rather Walk Alone'.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Steadfast on May 03, 2015, 11:57:01 AM
Well that was a thoroughly enjoyable day out to Villa Park & 3 points as expected. Just so good to see Villa playing as a Villa team should – positive, energetic & creative. Full credit to Tim Sherwood & his staff. Confident that we will now go on to achieve League safety & FA Cup glory with an unbeaten end to the season - would be nice if we could do it without the drama of constantly conceding silly goals though !
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: nodge on May 03, 2015, 11:59:47 AM
He looked so excited to give them the pen, he couldn't point to the spot quickly enough.

I said the same thing yesterday.

Also, if you watch it back, Naismith does exactly the same to Vlaar just before he gives the pen, i.e. makes contact with the back of Vlaar's leg whilst attempting to get the ball.  The most annoying thing is, is that he was letting far worse things go all day long. It shouldn't make any difference where it is on the pitch, he'd set the bar. He's just another in a long line of refs who want to make sure the cameras are on him
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Percy McCarthy on May 03, 2015, 12:00:20 PM
Great result and performance although I could do with the 'added excitement' of a late goal to spice things up.
Totally agree with all the plaudits for Delph, Benteke, Grealish and Cleverley, but I thought Westwood had yet another terrific game before being subbed, he is another one who looks a different player with a new lease of life under Timmy.

On a separate tack, there were some nasty scenes in Witton Lane around 2.40. A load of Everton 'kids' came down, singing and being a bit leary.
Villa fans going into the Holte then responded, and it turned nasty for a couple of minutes with some nasty scrapping and charging at each other,and no sign of the old bill.
It calmed down after a couple of mins, but it was quite nasty.
It seemed that there were a number of coaches parked to by Aston church, and if these Everton fans were allowed to walk from there to the ground, unaccompanied, being as leary as that, then it's no surprise it kicked off.
The weirdest thing is that these Everyon lads really did look like lads, 16 or 17 and looked like a scruffy bunch of loudmouth chavs rather than a 'firm', and a few of them took a real beating.
Being so close to the ground, it really wasn't very pleasant at all.

Oh dear that's not good to hear, should be all on camera at least

Oh well, it was retro day.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: OzVilla on May 03, 2015, 12:18:55 PM
He looked so excited to give them the pen, he couldn't point to the spot quickly enough.

I said the same thing yesterday.

Also, if you watch it back, Naismith does exactly the same to Vlaar just before he gives the pen, i.e. makes contact with the back of Vlaar's leg whilst attempting to get the ball.  The most annoying thing is, is that he was letting far worse things go all day long. It shouldn't make any difference where it is on the pitch, he'd set the bar. He's just another in a long line of refs who want to make sure the cameras are on him

I actually thought it was a penalty and would have been fuming if something like that wasn't given for us. Their second though was a clear foul on Given.

Clattenberg was just awful all day though, no protection at all for either Delph or Grealish. Even Gaz Baz started kicking players who I thought looked a shadow of the player I used to know. Shouldn't have been booed either, that was a bit depressing tbh.

 


Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Exeter 77 on May 03, 2015, 12:26:32 PM
The best thing I remember Clattenburg doing in one if our games was shove Carr out of Ashley Young's face in the build up to Young's first goal in the 5-1 game against Small Heath.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on May 03, 2015, 12:39:40 PM
Everyone hates SHA. Even the referees.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Malandro on May 03, 2015, 12:49:27 PM
He looked so excited to give them the pen, he couldn't point to the spot quickly enough.

I said the same thing yesterday.

Also, if you watch it back, Naismith does exactly the same to Vlaar just before he gives the pen, i.e. makes contact with the back of Vlaar's leg whilst attempting to get the ball.  The most annoying thing is, is that he was letting far worse things go all day long. It shouldn't make any difference where it is on the pitch, he'd set the bar. He's just another in a long line of refs who want to make sure the cameras are on him

I actually thought it was a penalty and would have been fuming if something like that wasn't given for us. Their second though was a clear foul on Given.

Clattenberg was just awful all day though, no protection at all for either Delph or Grealish. Even Gaz Baz started kicking players who I thought looked a shadow of the player I used to know. Shouldn't have been booed either, that was a bit depressing tbh.

 





I think it was a pen too, vlaar was a little unlucky as he wasn't attempting to foul him but because of his position he ended up doing it.
We do seem to get shit breaks in every match at the moment.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on May 03, 2015, 12:55:02 PM
What about the Everton player (McCarthy?) who took a blatant dive in our box looking for another penalty !
Not even cautioned. Not even spoken to !!
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: martin o`who?? on May 03, 2015, 12:59:12 PM
What about the Everton player (McCarthy?) who took a blatant dive in our box looking for another penalty !
Not even cautioned. Not even spoken to !!
i spoke to him!!!
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 03, 2015, 01:08:30 PM
Clattenburg was so desperate to give them anything we ad a free-kick in the first half, the second it was taken he blew for a foul. Tosser. Which is pretty impressive as he was looking at the taker when he blew. He'd already decided we'd fouled a defender.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Malandro on May 03, 2015, 01:15:45 PM
We've now got two players that referees seem eager to judge against. Benteke's crime is being a big guy and Grealish...is it because he looks a cheeky chappy and upsets them with the shin pads?
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on May 03, 2015, 01:26:13 PM
https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/attachments/upload_2015-5-2_10-47-40-png.8830/

Impressive marking for Benteke's second. At least Barry was doing a good job to make sure Stones wasn't going to score.

For that second goal it seemed like a planned set piece. Vlaar and Benteke start in the same spot, then Vlaar attacks the front post and appears to flick it towards the back post where Benteke has gone and is completely unmarked.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: ez on May 03, 2015, 01:49:33 PM
I'm chuffed that we are back to beating clubs like Everton and Spurs.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: john2710 on May 03, 2015, 02:31:55 PM
It was good to see what felt like a routine win.

We've got to remember, we're only one bad result from being back in the shit.

But it looks promising.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on May 03, 2015, 02:39:00 PM
Watching the highlights, Grealish seems to put in some brilliant balls in for corners. In-swinging and landing in a perfect spot on the 6 yard line right on front of the goal for an attacking header. But with enough curve that the keeper can't make a judgement to come until it is too late.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: littlevillain on May 03, 2015, 03:05:05 PM
Friend of mine told me there was a lot of trouble outside the holte before the game, anyone see or hear about this?
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Hoppo on May 03, 2015, 03:11:42 PM
A coach load of Scoursers came along Witton Lane chanting ' Going down, going down.' They got the shock of their lives when about 5/6 got stuck into them, more got involved as it carried on up Witton Lane cones and cans being thrown.
I know people on here won't like it or agree but I'm glad fans don't come here and get an easy ride.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: taylorsworkrate on May 03, 2015, 03:17:35 PM
A coach load of Scoursers came along Witton Lane chanting ' Going down, going down.' They got the shock of their lives when about 5/6 got stuck into them, more got involved as it carried on up Witton Lane cones and cans being thrown.
I know people on here won't like it or agree but I'm glad fans don't come here and get an easy ride.

Its a little bit pathetic to have to resort to violence
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: peter w on May 03, 2015, 03:45:04 PM
Charlie Nicholas's take on it. Try and ignore the barnet...

http://www1.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/teams/aston-villa/9833721/nicholas-best-villa-performance-in-long-time
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: peter w on May 03, 2015, 03:50:07 PM
Delph and Benteke.

 http://www1.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/teams/aston-villa/9833577/delph-hails-explosive-benteke
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on May 03, 2015, 03:53:24 PM
A coach load of Scoursers came along Witton Lane chanting ' Going down, going down.' They got the shock of their lives when about 5/6 got stuck into them, more got involved as it carried on up Witton Lane cones and cans being thrown.
I know people on here won't like it or agree but I'm glad fans don't come here and get an easy ride.
Looks like I missed all the action having got into the ground very early. They don't like us for some bizarre reason, if they're acting disrespectfully outside our ground then they deserve what they got even though I would not condone violence .
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 03, 2015, 03:57:01 PM
What I heard from reliable sources is it was little more than a bit of handbags.

A few Everton hoolies were well up for it after the game. Wanted to take any Villa on. While safely inside the coach car park and behind the fence.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on May 03, 2015, 03:57:08 PM
Everton fans gave us a very generous round of applause at the first rendition of "we are going to Wembley". Obviously because we disposed Liverpool but still a good touch.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Matt C on May 03, 2015, 03:57:48 PM
Brilliant to watch and a thoroughly deserved victory. The transformation in individuals is particularly remarkable and as others have said, it stacks up the evidence against an increasingly incompetent-looking Lambert. Crying out for a playmaker and he had one under his nose that he refused to use in Grealish, grossly under-utilizing the abilities of Cleverley, isolating one of the brightest striking talents in Europe... The list goes on.

Anyway, we're in form and playing exceedingly well - it feels like we can give anyone a game and fear nobody. Long may that continue.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: mrfuse on May 03, 2015, 04:00:24 PM
Something Ive noticed which might have already been mentioned on this thread, is how much better we have been on set pieces since Sherwood has been in charge.
Grealish has put in decent corners and we look dangerous from them. Under Lambert I remember not even being interested in corners as we didn't seem to have any ideas at all.
still need to improve but its a start.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: DeKuip on May 03, 2015, 04:05:47 PM
A coach load of Scoursers came along Witton Lane chanting ' Going down, going down.' They got the shock of their lives when about 5/6 got stuck into them, more got involved as it carried on up Witton Lane cones and cans being thrown.
I know people on here won't like it or agree but I'm glad fans don't come here and get an easy ride.
Did they raid the ice cream van?
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Karlos96 on May 03, 2015, 04:26:51 PM
Grealish from yesterday :)

https://t.co/WMOMX0jFYw (https://t.co/WMOMX0jFYw)
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: dave shelley on May 03, 2015, 04:39:11 PM
Grealish from yesterday :)

https://t.co/WMOMX0jFYw (https://t.co/WMOMX0jFYw)

This really isn't good enough...I can't see Grealish laugh at him!
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on May 03, 2015, 04:41:59 PM
Has anyone mentioned that bloody drum yet?
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: dave shelley on May 03, 2015, 04:44:13 PM
Has anyone mentioned that bloody drum yet?

I did to Mrs S last night.  I said I don't ever remember anything like that at Villa Park before.  I don't like it, and I'm miles away.  I hope it gets banned before I get there for the Burnley game.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 03, 2015, 04:45:59 PM
I couldn't hear it in the posh seats.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on May 03, 2015, 04:47:41 PM
Nope I couldn't hear it either
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on May 03, 2015, 04:52:31 PM
Didn't hear anything but sitting in noisiest stand in the ground Witton End I am not surprised that we don't hear anyone else!
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: andyaston on May 03, 2015, 04:59:51 PM
Has anyone mentioned that bloody drum yet?
Yea Farage was in there on Thursday before going to the Bartons.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: mrastonvilla on May 03, 2015, 05:21:18 PM
I couldn't hear it in the posh seats.

I didn't hear it in the cheap seats either?
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Percy McCarthy on May 03, 2015, 05:30:18 PM
Watching the highlights, Grealish seems to put in some brilliant balls in for corners. In-swinging and landing in a perfect spot on the 6 yard line right on front of the goal for an attacking header. But with enough curve that the keeper can't make a judgement to come until it is too late.

Spot on. Every corner we got I was thinking to myself 'Yes, Jack's side', or 'oh, not Jack's side'.

Saw his dad in the Aston Social after. Couldn't smile wide enough.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on May 03, 2015, 05:31:22 PM
I'm another one who fortunately didn't hear it.

The atmosphere was good yesterday. There was a good whole ground rendition of being he pride of Brum that was very loud.

It's very enjoyable at the moment, even at home.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on May 03, 2015, 05:32:08 PM
I couldn't hear it in the posh seats.

I didn't hear it in the cheap seats either?

I did.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: West Derby Villan on May 03, 2015, 05:44:00 PM
And me
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Breezeblock on May 03, 2015, 09:58:28 PM
Sitting in P8 and I heard it at the start of the match.  Can't say I noticed it after the Beasts first goal tho' :D
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Chris Jameson on May 03, 2015, 10:56:24 PM
Something that really baffled me when I saw the highlights was what the hell was Tim Howard appealing for as Villa scored their second? It looked like he was claiming Benteke was offside, it was very odd
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Dave on May 03, 2015, 10:58:40 PM
Something that really baffled me when I saw the highlights was what the hell was Tim Howard appealing for as Villa scored their second? It looked like he was claiming Benteke was offside, it was very odd
That was quite funny. It cuts away to Benteke celebrating, but I think Howard looks behind him, sees the bloke on the other post and puts his hand down pretty sharpish.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on May 03, 2015, 11:06:55 PM
I think it was simply because he couldn't believe that the most in form forward in Europe at the moment was left completely unmarked. It was an instinctive gesture until he realized rather quickly it was just brilliant forward play coupled with horrific defending.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on May 03, 2015, 11:06:57 PM
I like the drum.In fact it should be bigger and noisier.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: LTA on May 03, 2015, 11:08:09 PM
Tremendous display with some crisp and incisive passing.  We caused Everton all sorts of problems and they were lucky to still be in the game at half time.

So frustrating that even with our good form we haven't pulled clear.  Looks like we may need 39-40 points now just to be absolutely sure.

Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithe on May 03, 2015, 11:29:39 PM
A coach load of Scoursers came along Witton Lane chanting ' Going down, going down.' They got the shock of their lives when about 5/6 got stuck into them, more got involved as it carried on up Witton Lane cones and cans being thrown.
I know people on here won't like it or agree but I'm glad fans don't come here and get an easy ride.
Looks like I missed all the action having got into the ground very early. They don't like us for some bizarre reason, if they're acting disrespectfully outside our ground then they deserve what they got even though I would not condone violence .

We were chatting to a group of 5/6 in the tavern before the game, good lads.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Witton Warrior on May 03, 2015, 11:51:10 PM
A coach load of Scoursers came along Witton Lane chanting ' Going down, going down.' They got the shock of their lives when about 5/6 got stuck into them, more got involved as it carried on up Witton Lane cones and cans being thrown.
I know people on here won't like it or agree but I'm glad fans don't come here and get an easy ride.
Looks like I missed all the action having got into the ground very early. They don't like us for some bizarre reason, if they're acting disrespectfully outside our ground then they deserve what they got even though I would not condone violence .

We were chatting to a group of 5/6 in the tavern before the game, good lads.

They seem to have gone from quite liking us as "equals" to an intense dislike in the last 8-10 years - see all the crap about not liking coming to VP because they got "spat on" and "coined" etc... very strange
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: KRS on May 04, 2015, 02:33:57 AM
I couldn't hear it in the posh seats.

I didn't hear it in the cheap seats either?
Heard it all the way through the game sat towards the back in K6. Is the drum part of Brigada or someone else?
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Axl Rose on May 04, 2015, 03:05:24 AM
Think we need to lay off Clattenburg a bit, he is by far the best ref in the country right now and one iffy game doesn't change that.
We don't have to lay off him at all. I don't really care how he performs against other teams, if he is a shit ref when we play then that's what matters.

And on what grounds is he the 'best ref in the country'?

He's a poseur with a strong sense of self importance. No referee should want to be the star of the show, yet he does. And as yesterday proved, he's not a very good referee in any case.


Des Little, spot on. Clattenburg is a twat, obviously loves himself, and has spent too much time painting himself with quick drying woodstain. In my opinion, only Dowd is worse.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on May 04, 2015, 06:06:03 AM
I like the drum.In fact it should be bigger and noisier.

(http://33.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2wbwkc84x1ru37dno1_500.gif)
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: pbavfckuwait on May 04, 2015, 06:08:15 AM
Delph brilliant first half, good second half, Jack is growing with every game, the Beast well he is the Beast, Cleverly wow. Keep it going Villa and Clatenburg you allowed Everton to turn back the clock, I thought I was watching Leeds in their hay day with all the off the ball stuff and deliberate consistent fouling.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: pooligan on May 04, 2015, 06:29:42 AM
Hey Axi ,you forgot Mike Jones.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on May 04, 2015, 11:56:45 AM
Think we need to lay off Clattenburg a bit, he is by far the best ref in the country right now and one iffy game doesn't change that.
We don't have to lay off him at all. I don't really care how he performs against other teams, if he is a shit ref when we play then that's what matters.

And on what grounds is he the 'best ref in the country'?

He's a poseur with a strong sense of self importance. No referee should want to be the star of the show, yet he does. And as yesterday proved, he's not a very good referee in any case.


Des Little, spot on. Clattenburg is a twat, obviously loves himself, and has spent too much time painting himself with quick drying woodstain. In my opinion, only Dowd is worse.

The only thing Clattenburg has going for him is that he's not Kevin Friend(less).
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Axl Rose on May 04, 2015, 12:40:31 PM
Hey Axi ,you forgot Mike Jones.

Haha. Yes, another complete twat. Is there a good referee in the modern game?
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Pat McMahon on May 04, 2015, 02:01:50 PM
I couldn't hear it in the posh seats.

I didn't hear it in the cheap seats either?

I did.

It seemed to be near the Brigada boys - didn't bother me as I was in the Holte upper (K6) but I will be near the fellas in L7 next week so will decide then.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 04, 2015, 02:05:56 PM
Quote
Christian Benteke and Fabian Delph were included in the BBC Sport team of the week after Villa's impressive victory over Everton.

Benteke bagged two in the 3-2 win while skipper Delph was the driving force in midfield.

There are several other players who can seem themselves unlucky not to be picked by judge Garth Crooks, who chooses his ultimate XI at the end of every round of matches.

Tom Cleverley was immense in the middle of the park while Jack Grealish was his usual classy self as he dictated play with his vast array of skills.

Despite that, Benteke and Delph were undoubtedly worthy inclusions.

On Delph, he said: "Here is a player who has found his way again under the direction of manager Tim Sherwood at Aston Villa.

"After his impressive display against Liverpool in the FA Cup semi-final, Fabian Delph got rave reviews for his performance in Saturday's 3-2 win over Everton.

"I suspect football fans from Merseyside are beginning to get sick of the sight of him by now."

Benteke is bang in form in front of goal.

The Belgian Beast has now hit eight goals in six games and is right at the top of his game.

Villa are now 14th in the Barclays Premier League table as we look to win the survival fight and the performances of Benteke are a shining light in that battle at the basement.

TEAM OF THE WEEK: Boaz Myhill (West Brom), Branislav Ivanovic (Chelsea), Gary Cahill (Chelsea), Cesar Azpilicueta (Chelsea), Esteban Cambiasso (Leicester), Fabian Delph (Aston Villa), Steven Gerrard (Liverpool), Jordi Gomez (Sunderland), Jamie Vardy (Leicester), Christian Benteke (Aston Villa)
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Risso on May 04, 2015, 02:12:37 PM
Steven Gerrard - lol.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: peter w on May 04, 2015, 02:14:07 PM
I know. Just can't help themselves can they?
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Des Little on May 04, 2015, 05:36:56 PM
Gerrard will be in that team next season
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: steamer on May 04, 2015, 05:52:36 PM
My 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' supporting was slating him day, I should cheer him up  by pointing this out.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on May 04, 2015, 06:17:26 PM
Gerrard aside I think Crooks got a lot else right. The inclusion of Vardy & Cambiasso particularly. Leicester looked good  against the Mags.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on May 04, 2015, 06:42:35 PM
Surprised Clattenburg (Everton) didn't get in. Played a blinder in the bits I saw.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: devilla on May 04, 2015, 07:09:49 PM
What a fabulous day. Aston Tavern was great, fabulous music in there. Ok, the Leicester result was a downer but we can't rely on other teams. Somebody mentioned earlier about Jack taking the pass from Delph by sliding to keep it in then getting up to keep the ball. That was one of my favourite moments too. Some wonderful football was played and we won despite Everton having 12 men.

Clattenberg should definitely have gone to Specsavers. He needs to watch a replay of that match as it there were some disgraceful decisions. Anybody know what happened in the upper Holte? Looked like it was kicking off a bit around K5.

I saw a woman on Trinity Road selling half and half Villa and Arsenal scarves. I told her it was disgraceful and a lot of people around me agreed. What are they thinking?
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on May 04, 2015, 07:10:52 PM
Half and half scarves are an abomination.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on May 04, 2015, 07:11:16 PM
Steven Gerrard - lol.

Indeed.

That's an absolute joke.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on May 04, 2015, 07:13:18 PM
Steven Gerrard - lol.
Didn't he miss a penalty ?
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: steffo on May 04, 2015, 07:18:15 PM
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I saw a woman on Trinity Road selling half and half Villa and Arsenal scarves. I told her it was disgraceful and a lot of people around me agreed. What are they thinking?

The ones I saw read: AFC 'Pride of London' - AVFC 'Heart of the Midlands'

They might as well have put AVFC 'From Birmingham'
 
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on May 04, 2015, 07:19:04 PM
Steven Gerrard - lol.
Didn't he miss a penalty ?

It was a pretty horrible miss at that!
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on May 04, 2015, 10:21:58 PM
Steven Gerrard - lol.
Didn't he miss a penalty ?

That's exactly why he got in. It was the comeback story of one mans failure and fall from grace from the spot, on the back of a red card at Man U and a cup semi final defeat to his heroic winning goal versus mighty QPR. A true Hollywood ending.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on May 04, 2015, 10:44:02 PM
Whhhhhhen you walk
Through a storm ...
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on May 04, 2015, 10:45:34 PM
Whhhhhhen you walk
Through a storm ...

You get wet.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on May 04, 2015, 10:48:34 PM
Whhhhhhen you walk
Through a storm ...

You get wet.

All the Liverpool fans we chatted to at Wembley were sound, with the exception of one bloke who was sat in front of us.

When they started playing YNWA, it got totally booed over by our fans, and he got all agitated and started shouting about showing "some respect". As if it were a national anthem or something.

What a kernt.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Dave on May 04, 2015, 10:48:59 PM
Gerrard aside I think Crooks got a lot else right.
Only picking ten players should be chalked up as a bit of an error.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on May 04, 2015, 10:51:57 PM
Whhhhhhen you walk
Through a storm ...

You get wet.
As much as I dislike them to see the kos on full flight sing that is decent,  I quite like the song. Shame they nicked it.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on May 04, 2015, 10:55:55 PM
Whhhhhhen you walk
Through a storm ...

You get wet.
As much as I dislike them to see the kos on full flight sing that is decent,  I quite like the song. Shame they nicked it.

Now therein lies a tale, because while they didn't nick it from Celtic, there's good evidence that it was first sung at another ground. And you'll never guess which club, and in which city, lay claim?
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on May 04, 2015, 10:55:58 PM
Whhhhhhen you walk
Through a storm ...

You get wet.
As much as I dislike them to see the kos on full flight sing that is decent,  I quite like the song. Shame they nicked it.

Dear oh dear.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Monty on May 04, 2015, 11:00:08 PM
Whhhhhhen you walk
Through a storm ...

You get wet.
As much as I dislike them to see the kos on full flight sing that is decent,  I quite like the song. Shame they nicked it.

Now therein lies a tale, because while they didn't nick it from Celtic, there's good evidence that it was first sung at another ground. And you'll never guess which club, and in which city, lay claim?

Wasn't it United? I seem to remember there's a claim they sung it first as a kind of Munich remembrance thing.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on May 04, 2015, 11:02:32 PM
Whhhhhhen you walk
Through a storm ...

You get wet.
As much as I dislike them to see the kos on full flight sing that is decent,  I quite like the song. Shame they nicked it.

Now therein lies a tale, because while they didn't nick it from Celtic, there's good evidence that it was first sung at another ground. And you'll never guess which club, and in which city, lay claim?

Wasn't it United? I seem to remember there's a claim they sung it first as a kind of Munich remembrance thing.

Who else? Some woman claims she and her friends sung it a few times after Munich.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Dave on May 04, 2015, 11:02:51 PM
Now therein lies a tale, because while they didn't nick it from Celtic, there's good evidence that it was first sung at another ground.
Presumably if they 'nicked it' from anywhere, they nicked it from Rodgers & Hammerstein?
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on May 04, 2015, 11:10:41 PM
Whhhhhhen you walk
Through a storm ...

You get wet.
As much as I dislike them to see the kos on full flight sing that is decent,  I quite like the song. Shame they nicked it.

Now therein lies a tale, because while they didn't nick it from Celtic, there's good evidence that it was first sung at another ground. And you'll never guess which club, and in which city, lay claim?
Yanited I believe. That's the tale anyway .
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on May 05, 2015, 06:12:45 AM
Whhhhhhen you walk
Through a storm ...

You get wet.

All the Liverpool fans we chatted to at Wembley were sound, with the exception of one bloke who was sat in front of us.

When they started playing YNWA, it got totally booed over by our fans, and he got all agitated and started shouting about showing "some respect". As if it were a national anthem or something.

What a kernt.

Wasn't the semi final the closest game Liverpool had to the anniversary of hillsborough this year? I thought in the run up to the game they were pitching it as the anniversary game
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithe on May 05, 2015, 07:36:25 AM
Whhhhhhen you walk
Through a storm ...



You get wet.
As much as I dislike them to see the kos on full flight sing that is decent,  I quite like the song. Shame they nicked it.

Indeed, particularly when they follow it up with The Fields of Anfield Rhodes.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: rjp on May 05, 2015, 12:49:41 PM
Anybody know what happened in the upper Holte? Looked like it was kicking off a bit around K5.

I couldn't really see from K7 but I spoke to one of the stewards about it at half time.  A Villa fan turned up (drunk I'd guess) with his mate and there were a couple of people in their seats.  Once this was pointed out they moved immediately but he continued to kick off, kicking the seats in front of him etc.  This went on for a while and when the stewards asked him to calm down he started having a go at them.  He raised his hands at which point the police were asked to take over and he got chucked out.  When I went out for a cigarette at half time they were at the bottom of the steps with about 6 police asking them to move on.  He did his best to get himself nicked by acting like a complete bell end but they were amazingly tolerant and eventually walked away which seemed to enrage him.  Cue lots of smokers telling him he was a w*nker and singing cheerio.  That bit was quite funny.
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on May 05, 2015, 01:12:53 PM
Been away for a few days and only just caught up with this thread. Have just read through every post!

The positivity of the vast majority of it is wonderful to behold. Some of our key players have been totally transformed under Sherwood's approach and we are playing some fabulous stuff, and heading in the right direction to avoid the drop and on our way to the FA CUP final. It feels so good after all the shite we've had to put up with and that feeling comes through the words written in almost every post.
The atmosphere at VP on Saturday was brilliant - let's keep it going to the end of the season!

Also glad to read that most thought Clattenberg's performance was at best strange, at worst one-sided and convincing enough evidence for a bribery charge!
For some time I was thinking it was just me with my "we always get shit refs" tinted specs on!

UTV!
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on May 05, 2015, 01:28:51 PM
Steven Gerrard - lol.
Didn't he miss a penalty ?

That's exactly why he got in. It was the comeback story of one mans failure and fall from grace from the spot, on the back of a red card at Man U and a cup semi final defeat to his heroic winning goal versus mighty QPR. A true Hollywood ending.
I am so pleased Richardson was there when John Wayne/Red Adair got his head to the ball at Wembley otherwise it would have been very painful listening to the commentators verbal  wankfest!
Title: Re: The Magnificent Aston Villa 3-2 Everton plus Ref Post-Match Thread
Post by: Dr Butler on May 06, 2015, 08:17:40 AM
Delph brilliant first half, good second half, Jack is growing with every game, the Beast well he is the Beast, Cleverly wow. Keep it going Villa and Clatenburg you allowed Everton to turn back the clock, I thought I was watching Leeds in their hay day with all the off the ball stuff and deliberate consistent fouling.

and that stupid Leeds 90's style kit Everton were wearing...

UTV
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