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Title: Bosnich in trouble
Post by: Diablo on April 28, 2015, 10:45:47 AM
Bosnich pleads guilty to reckless driving...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32492827
Title: Re: Bosnich in trouble
Post by: Hookeysmith on April 28, 2015, 10:55:29 AM
Makes a change - usually when an ex players cocks up its "VILLA PLAYER"
Title: Re: Bosnich in trouble
Post by: dave.woodhall on April 28, 2015, 10:56:04 AM
Makes a change - usually when an ex players cocks up its "VILLA PLAYER"

Only in the Mercury.
Title: Re: Bosnich in trouble
Post by: supertom on April 28, 2015, 10:57:38 AM
Honestly I'm with Bossie on this one. It's also why I don't drive because I'd probably end up with about 100 cyclist induced dents on my fucking car.
Title: Re: Bosnich in trouble
Post by: walsall villain on April 28, 2015, 11:04:26 AM
Might have been provoked but that's a straight red
Title: Re: Bosnich in trouble
Post by: itbrvilla on April 28, 2015, 11:22:28 AM
Honestly I'm with Bossie on this one. It's also why I don't drive because I'd probably end up with about 100 cyclist induced dents on my fucking car.
Why?  All guidelines recommend ridding at least 3 foot from the kerb in the UK at least.  Riding in the centre of a lane is often the safest position for a cyclist to take. Granted the cyclist in this case was a bellend for damaging the car.
Title: Re: Bosnich in trouble
Post by: brian green on April 28, 2015, 11:53:29 AM
Saw three cyclists in three separate incidents ride into cars outside my shop window yesterday alone. Cycle damage to cars is so commonplace in Cambridge the drivers as often ad not don't even get out of their cars to examine it. Bikes rule in this part of the world.
Title: Re: Bosnich in trouble
Post by: supertom on April 28, 2015, 12:27:06 PM
Honestly I'm with Bossie on this one. It's also why I don't drive because I'd probably end up with about 100 cyclist induced dents on my fucking car.
Why?  All guidelines recommend ridding at least 3 foot from the kerb in the UK at least.  Riding in the centre of a lane is often the safest position for a cyclist to take. Granted the cyclist in this case was a bellend for damaging the car.
I don't mind cyclists when they behave, but some seem to have this arrogant attitude that somehow they're encased in a 2 tonne shell to protect them, and that they can get away with things like chucking something at a car. A few just need to be a bit more careful. There's a cycle lane near where I live. It cost a couple of million to put in between two towns, and some of the full on cyclists (all the gear, and the top of the line bikes) think they're too good to use it.
Those are the kinds that would end up spawled on top of my car like a bear on a Texans truck. 
To be honest I think any middle aged man out and about in lycra is probably a maniac.
Title: Re: Bosnich in trouble
Post by: McGraths Dry Cleaning on April 28, 2015, 12:43:27 PM
Honestly I'm with Bossie on this one. It's also why I don't drive because I'd probably end up with about 100 cyclist induced dents on my fucking car.
Why?  All guidelines recommend ridding at least 3 foot from the kerb in the UK at least.  Riding in the centre of a lane is often the safest position for a cyclist to take. Granted the cyclist in this case was a bellend for damaging the car.
I don't mind cyclists when they behave, but some seem to have this arrogant attitude that somehow they're encased in a 2 tonne shell to protect them, and that they can get away with things like chucking something at a car. A few just need to be a bit more careful. There's a cycle lane near where I live. It cost a couple of million to put in between two towns, and some of the full on cyclists (all the gear, and the top of the line bikes) think they're too good to use it.
Those are the kinds that would end up spawled on top of my car like a bear on a Texans truck. 
To be honest I think any middle aged man out and about in lycra is probably a maniac.
Ah - the lesser spotted MAMIL (middle aged man in lycra).

To be fair I'm a keen off road biker but i keep my padded lyycra shorts (and i need padded - the bloke from the 80's yellow pages ads was right about those saddles) safely hidden beneath a pair of overshorts.
Title: Re: Bosnich in trouble
Post by: itbrvilla on April 28, 2015, 12:52:08 PM
Honestly I'm with Bossie on this one. It's also why I don't drive because I'd probably end up with about 100 cyclist induced dents on my fucking car.
Why?  All guidelines recommend ridding at least 3 foot from the kerb in the UK at least.  Riding in the centre of a lane is often the safest position for a cyclist to take. Granted the cyclist in this case was a bellend for damaging the car.
I don't mind cyclists when they behave, but some seem to have this arrogant attitude that somehow they're encased in a 2 tonne shell to protect them, and that they can get away with things like chucking something at a car. A few just need to be a bit more careful. There's a cycle lane near where I live. It cost a couple of million to put in between two towns, and some of the full on cyclists (all the gear, and the top of the line bikes) think they're too good to use it.
Those are the kinds that would end up spawled on top of my car like a bear on a Texans truck. 
To be honest I think any middle aged man out and about in lycra is probably a maniac.
Most cycle lanes are inadequate and poorly designed. The ones I could use to commute are full of debris, pot holes, branches, drains, broken glass and branches, another has lampposts and road signs imbedded in it and is also used by pedestrians who ignore all the signage.  That's Why I never bother with them.  Like I said, riding in the centre of the lane is often the safest place to ride. Cars cant overtake at junctions, roundabouts, bends or when passing parked cars preventing them putting the cyclist in more danger. As for cyclist throwing things at cars, they're just prats.
Title: Re: Bosnich in trouble
Post by: Dante Lavelli on April 28, 2015, 01:05:19 PM
My mate - a keen cyclist - has recently moved to Oz and he reckons that the car/bike debate is even more entrenched down there.
There are enough dicks (on both sides) here so I dread to think what it is like there.

itbrvilla is right about the middle of the road thing, it worries me that this is not common knowledge.  I also think that the relative cost of getting some youtube videos made to highlight things such as this would help all parties.
Title: Re: Bosnich in trouble
Post by: LeeS on April 28, 2015, 01:16:49 PM
Just because riding in the middle of the road is, broadly speaking, the safest option doesn't make it acceptable on all occasions. Roads are built for all users, not just us cyclists. If all of the traffic has to travel at the same speed as the slowest cyclist then the world would come to a standstill. People have things to do and legitimate reasons to be in motorcars that can reach the designated speed limits.

Cyclists are often (not always) oblivious to their surroundings. My view is that many of us could do with some formal training on how to behave on the roads. I'd even go so far as make a test, a licence and insurance compulsory. There will be times when it is right to be in the middle of the road and times when it is perfectly safe to stay left and let faster moving traffic past.
Title: Re: Bosnich in trouble
Post by: brontebilly on April 28, 2015, 01:23:52 PM
Whatever about the rights and wrongs of cycling, Bozzy is one of life's greatest ar$eholes
Title: Re: Bosnich in trouble
Post by: martin o`who?? on April 28, 2015, 01:56:34 PM
Did he also plead guilty to wrecklessly wrecking a potentially wonderful career??.....
Title: Re: Bosnich in trouble
Post by: supertom on April 28, 2015, 02:26:18 PM
Did he also plead guilty to wrecklessly wrecking a potentially wonderful career??.....
It was going well with us. What he did after I couldn't care less about really. His fault for going to Utd and then Chelsea.

Lesson to our best players...DON'T LEAVE!!
Well...I'm hoping Benteke heeds this for the time being.
Title: Re: Bosnich in trouble
Post by: TimTheVillain on April 28, 2015, 06:10:32 PM
Honestly I'm with Bossie on this one. It's also why I don't drive because I'd probably end up with about 100 cyclist induced dents on my fucking car.

Me too, and I always liked Bozzie, wig and all !
Title: Re: Bosnich in trouble
Post by: martin o`who?? on April 28, 2015, 08:30:23 PM
Sounds like his cycling skills are as dodgy as his kicking was.
Title: Re: Bosnich in trouble
Post by: junxs on May 01, 2015, 02:23:47 AM
Cyclists belong on the footpath, if they want to ride on roads they should pay road tax like motorcyclists have to
Title: Re: Bosnich in trouble
Post by: brian green on May 01, 2015, 04:37:35 AM
Cyclist belong on the roads paying taxes and observing the laws like every other road user has to. The clue to the purpose of footpaths is in the name.
Title: Re: Bosnich in trouble
Post by: TopDeck113 on May 01, 2015, 06:21:23 AM
(1) There is no such thing as Road Tax. Vehicle Excise Duty on the other hand is charged based on emissions and therefore bicycles - like some cars - are quite rightly zero rated.

(2) Surveys suggest that on average regular cyclists tend to be higher earners and therefore contribute more in general taxation.  That tax is what pays for the infrastructure we all use, including the roads and the, still woefully inadequate and poorly maintained, cycle lanes. 

(3) All road users should obey the law. There are some cyclists that don't and they should be dealt with. However,  as someone who cycles socially I would suggest that there are many drivers who show scarily little regard or consideration to cyclists.
Title: Re: Bosnich in trouble
Post by: brian green on May 01, 2015, 06:29:32 AM
Tell that to an old lady customer of mine who was hit on the pavement by an illegal cyclist and sustained a broken wrist and two broken ribs.   Or the cyclist who was hit by another cyclist jumping a red light and who is still in hospital ten months later.
Title: Re: Bosnich in trouble
Post by: TopDeck113 on May 01, 2015, 08:13:31 AM
As I say, if ANY road user breaks the law then they should be dealt with.  Cyclists should not use the pavements for the very example you cite and there are people on bikes who behave as idiots, just as there are those who do likewise when they get behind the wheel. However the fact remains that, other when we're cheering on Team GB in the Olympic velodrome,  as a nation of drivers we're pretty intolerant/ignorant of cyclists and in the ensuing RTAs the death or injury is usually sustained by the person on two wheels. 
Title: Re: Bosnich in trouble
Post by: itbrvilla on May 01, 2015, 09:58:53 AM
Cyclists belong on the footpath, if they want to ride on roads they should pay road tax like motorcyclists have to
Idiotic on both parts. There are cars and motorcycles which are zero rate.  We don't pollute or create the same wear to road surface, and as others have said 'road tax' doesn't pay for roads as its part of national and local infrastructure so gets a fair share of government funding. So if that's the case, how much should us cyclists be charged? I bet many cyclists also contribute to 'road tax' through car ownership.  As for riding on pavements...... utterly ridiculous.
Title: Re: Bosnich in trouble
Post by: robbo1874 on May 01, 2015, 10:27:29 AM
Honestly I'm with Bossie on this one. It's also why I don't drive because I'd probably end up with about 100 cyclist induced dents on my fucking car.
Why?  All guidelines recommend ridding at least 3 foot from the kerb in the UK at least.  Riding in the centre of a lane is often the safest position for a cyclist to take. Granted the cyclist in this case was a bellend for damaging the car.
I don't mind cyclists when they behave, but some seem to have this arrogant attitude that somehow they're encased in a 2 tonne shell to protect them, and that they can get away with things like chucking something at a car. A few just need to be a bit more careful. There's a cycle lane near where I live. It cost a couple of million to put in between two towns, and some of the full on cyclists (all the gear, and the top of the line bikes) think they're too good to use it.
Those are the kinds that would end up spawled on top of my car like a bear on a Texans truck. 
To be honest I think any middle aged man out and about in lycra is probably a maniac.
wankers
Title: Re: Bosnich in trouble
Post by: supertom on May 01, 2015, 11:01:21 AM
If you cycle in London you have to have a death wish and/or be clinically insane.
Title: Re: Bosnich in trouble
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on May 01, 2015, 11:38:38 AM
If you cycle in London you have to have a death wish and/or be clinically insane.

My missus used to cycle the couple of miles to work in Canary Wharf every day. Cycle lanes all the way, through the Greenwich Foot Tunnel under the Thames, lovely journey. That was until last year when a fella riding along side her - literally a couple of feet away in the cycle lane - was hit by a car ( who's driver fucked off) and was killed pretty much instantly. He was one of 15 cyclists killed in London that year.
Title: Re: Bosnich in trouble
Post by: supertom on May 01, 2015, 12:23:05 PM
If you cycle in London you have to have a death wish and/or be clinically insane.

My missus used to cycle the couple of miles to work in Canary Wharf every day. Cycle lanes all the way, through the Greenwich Foot Tunnel under the Thames, lovely journey. That was until last year when a fella riding along side her - literally a couple of feet away in the cycle lane - was hit by a car ( who's driver fucked off) and was killed pretty much instantly. He was one of 15 cyclists killed in London that year.
I think there's one pretty infamous roundabout in London where cyclists are dropping like flies. Can't recall which, but I think it's due to be redeveloped to be more cyclist friendly.
Title: Re: Bosnich in trouble
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on May 01, 2015, 12:27:11 PM
If you cycle in London you have to have a death wish and/or be clinically insane.

My missus used to cycle the couple of miles to work in Canary Wharf every day. Cycle lanes all the way, through the Greenwich Foot Tunnel under the Thames, lovely journey. That was until last year when a fella riding along side her - literally a couple of feet away in the cycle lane - was hit by a car ( who's driver fucked off) and was killed pretty much instantly. He was one of 15 cyclists killed in London that year.
I think there's one pretty infamous roundabout in London where cyclists are dropping like flies. Can't recall which, but I think it's due to be redeveloped to be more cyclist friendly.


Elephant and Castle

sorry, long link

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/transport/revealed-londons-10-most-dangerous-junctions-for-cyclists--as-transport-chiefs-underspend-50m-road-safety-budget-10068389.html

 
Title: Re: Bosnich in trouble
Post by: LeeS on May 01, 2015, 12:29:08 PM
If you cycle in London you have to have a death wish and/or be clinically insane.

My missus used to cycle the couple of miles to work in Canary Wharf every day. Cycle lanes all the way, through the Greenwich Foot Tunnel under the Thames, lovely journey. That was until last year when a fella riding along side her - literally a couple of feet away in the cycle lane - was hit by a car ( who's driver fucked off) and was killed pretty much instantly. He was one of 15 cyclists killed in London that year.
I think there's one pretty infamous roundabout in London where cyclists are dropping like flies. Can't recall which, but I think it's due to be redeveloped to be more cyclist friendly.


Bow Roundabout in East London. It is a death trap. However, the last person killed there had jumped a red light.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/dont-jump-red-lights-coroner-warns-cyclists-at-bow-roundabout-lorry-death-inquest-9250220.html (http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/dont-jump-red-lights-coroner-warns-cyclists-at-bow-roundabout-lorry-death-inquest-9250220.html)
Title: Re: Bosnich in trouble
Post by: LeeS on May 01, 2015, 12:30:49 PM
The road tax argument really gets my goat. Not just for reasons given above, about CO2 emmissions, which are convincing enough. But also because I, and presumably many other cyclists, both cycle and own a car. So I do pay road tax (or vehicle excise duty)!
Title: Re: Bosnich in trouble
Post by: itbrvilla on May 01, 2015, 01:13:55 PM
The road tax argument really gets my goat. Not just for reasons given above, about CO2 emmissions, which are convincing enough. But also because I, and presumably many other cyclists, both cycle and own a car. So I do pay road tax (or vehicle excise duty)!
Some just want to use any stick to have a pop at cyclists because some may slow them down a minute or two.
Title: Re: Bosnich in trouble
Post by: AV82EC on May 02, 2015, 07:00:26 AM
I'd like to think of myself as a reasonably responsible driver and i always give room to cyclists. I'll be honest and say my awareness of cyclists has been enhanced because of GBs greater success in the Velodrome and on the road. Living in South Manchester as well means you see quite a lot of TeamGB cyclists out and about on training rides and don't want to hamper the medal count!!!
Title: Re: Bosnich in trouble
Post by: junxs on May 02, 2015, 11:42:52 AM
Calm down girls, my comment was tongue in cheek!
I'm a cyclist myself as well as a motorcyclist and car driver.
Title: Re: Bosnich in trouble
Post by: Ad@m on May 02, 2015, 12:17:38 PM
I had a very strange dream last night where I was playing football in a game where Bossie was our goalie. He came out to clear a through ball and the oncoming meathead striker for the oppo went straight through him and left him with a compound fracture of his right shin.

Very strange dream. Any analysis of said dream very welcome!
Title: Re: Bosnich in trouble
Post by: peter w on May 02, 2015, 12:32:36 PM
If you cycle in London you have to have a death wish and/or be clinically insane.

My missus used to cycle the couple of miles to work in Canary Wharf every day. Cycle lanes all the way, through the Greenwich Foot Tunnel under the Thames, lovely journey. That was until last year when a fella riding along side her - literally a couple of feet away in the cycle lane - was hit by a car ( who's driver fucked off) and was killed pretty much instantly. He was one of 15 cyclists killed in London that year.
I think there's one pretty infamous roundabout in London where cyclists are dropping like flies. Can't recall which, but I think it's due to be redeveloped to be more cyclist friendly.


Elephant and Castle

sorry, long link

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/transport/revealed-londons-10-most-dangerous-junctions-for-cyclists--as-transport-chiefs-underspend-50m-road-safety-budget-10068389.html

 

I don't even like driving at that rounadbout never mind cycling. Its bloody horrible.
Title: Re: Bosnich in trouble
Post by: danno on May 03, 2015, 01:08:22 AM
I had a very strange dream last night where I was playing football in a game where Bossie was our goalie. He came out to clear a through ball and the oncoming meathead striker for the oppo went straight through him and left him with a compound fracture of his right shin.

Very strange dream. Any analysis of said dream very welcome!

You feel Bosnich leaving Villa Park when he did, was a rash decision. (him coming out to clear the through ball).
It also explains why you were both playing on the same team.

Your love of all things Bozzie, means your deep subconscious has given him an antagonist...
The ex Rangers forward Alex Ferguson! a dirty player by all accounts whose nickname (I think) was "elbows".
The dirty forward going straight through Bosnich and injuring him, is a metaphor for Ferguson replacing him as GK at United very quickly, and his career never really recovering.

Therefore you blame both Bosnich and Ferguson for his career fizzling out.

(I am not a psychologist).  :D
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