Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: nuninho on March 21, 2015, 07:25:30 PM
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Away fans on the pitch after a goal again. Can't remember too many other sides where fans are seen spilling on to the pitch so often. (Ignoring Albion game)
Do we have a problem?
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Stewards were trying to take one Swansea fan off when a woman went to his aid and attacked the stewards who got the police involved. Not sure what happened after.
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Why are the first 3-4 rows occupied - would make getting on much harder with the aisles then fully stewarded ?
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I didn't actually see any of them reach the pitch.
You can understand the wild celebration. We'd have done the same.
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It is a problem. It pisses me off no end. I think in general our stewards and policing are shit.
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Why are the first 3-4 rows occupied - would make getting on much harder with the aisles then fully stewarded ?
indeed, especially if it's not sold out, not sure how it was today, but sell those seats last?
It is a problem. It pisses me off no end. I think in general our stewards and policing are shit.
they did get on the pitch.
Yes we have an issue in poor management of the stewards.
As a student in London I was a regular steward on the side of the pitch at milwall, & have also worked chelsea, charlton, edgbaston, wembley occcasionally + work in psychology.
If anybody knows who to talk to i have some strong advice/opinions as to where we went went wrong for the West Brom cup game, but, you don't really need any experience to be able to point out the obvious!
It needs nipping in the bud before it becomes more regular, and banning orders publicised.
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I wonder if it is something to do with witton lane stand. The ad hoardings are very low anyway but there are also gaps to allow supporters onto pitch presumably as an emergency exit.
The problems at Albion game were albio fans surged through one of these gaps to get at villa fans. All police and stewards were then preoccupied with stopping them and that's why there were no stewards in front of villa fans.
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We should do more to stop teams scoring against us at that end.
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It's self fulfilling unfortunately. Fans get on to the pitch, the press publicise it and question why it happened so easily, other fans/idiots see how easy it is and decide to do the same. Repeat ad nauseum.
We can't defend our own fans for invading the pitch then criticise others for doing the same.
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Away fans on the pitch after a goal again. Can't remember too many other sides where fans are seen spilling on to the pitch so often. (Ignoring Albion game)
Do we have a problem?
there are often fans climbing over the advertising boards when away teams score at Villa park.
the only slightly different thing yesterday was the woman steaming in after the stewards tried to cart someone off.
if the stewards/police had dragged away the fans who climbed over the boards after Villa's first goal against WBA, people might have been reluctant to enter the field of play. instead the first offenders were just allowed back into the stand.
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We should do more to stop teams scoring against us at that end.
Hahaha
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stewards are there to watch the match, simple, stopping fans getting on the pitch, "what the fuck"
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stewards are there to watch the match, simple, stopping fans getting on the pitch, "what the fuck"
That idea's about twenty years out of date. Our stewards might not be perfect but they're about the best there is.
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stewards are there to watch the match, simple, stopping fans getting on the pitch, "what the fuck"
The stewards in my section don't watch any of the match. They face the crowd.
The club must be worried by the hardcore ultras behind the dugout........ Shout out to the LTR massive
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stewards are there to watch the match, simple, stopping fans getting on the pitch, "what the fuck"
That idea's about twenty years out of date. Our stewards might not be perfect but they're about the best there is.
Totally agree, they cant be blamed if people want to be arseholes
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I wonder if it is something to do with witton lane stand. The ad hoardings are very low anyway but there are also gaps to allow supporters onto pitch presumably as an emergency exit.
The problems at Albion game were albio fans surged through one of these gaps to get at villa fans. All police and stewards were then preoccupied with stopping them and that's why there were no stewards in front of villa fans.
Just allocate the upper tier section of the Witton Lane for away fans, problem solved.
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I wonder if it is something to do with witton lane stand. The ad hoardings are very low anyway but there are also gaps to allow supporters onto pitch presumably as an emergency exit.
The problems at Albion game were albio fans surged through one of these gaps to get at villa fans. All police and stewards were then preoccupied with stopping them and that's why there were no stewards in front of villa fans.
Just allocate the upper tier section of the Witton Lane for away fans, problem solved.
And have them throwing objects onto the Villa fans below them........
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I wonder if it is something to do with witton lane stand. The ad hoardings are very low anyway but there are also gaps to allow supporters onto pitch presumably as an emergency exit.
The problems at Albion game were albio fans surged through one of these gaps to get at villa fans. All police and stewards were then preoccupied with stopping them and that's why there were no stewards in front of villa fans.
Just allocate the upper tier section of the Witton Lane for away fans, problem solved.
And have them throwing objects onto the Villa fans below them........
And going in and out of the ground via the entire length of the stand.
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stewards are there to watch the match, simple, stopping fans getting on the pitch, "what the fuck"
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That idea's about twenty years out of date. Our stewards might not be perfect but they're about the best there is.
Stewards now are usually private security (G4S etc.) who cover several grounds. Those at Villa one week will be at the Sty or Hawthorns the following week.
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stewards are there to watch the match, simple, stopping fans getting on the pitch, "what the fuck"
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That idea's about twenty years out of date. Our stewards might not be perfect but they're about the best there is.
Stewards now are usually private security (G4S etc.) who cover several grounds. Those at Villa one week will be at the Sty or Hawthorns the following week.
They're directly employed, not from private firms.
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I went to a match yesterday which kicked off at 5, most of the 80,000 crowd were drunk and yet there was no segregation, trouble or fans on the pitch. It's not as if the game wasn't important either. It can be done.
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I went to a match yesterday which kicked off at 5, most of the 80,000 crowd were drunk and yet there was no segregation, trouble or fans on the pitch. It's not as if the game wasn't important either. It can be done.
You cant compare a rugby crowd to a football crowd I am afraid
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I'd move away fans to the north upper and hoarde off say the front 10 rows . Do as Newcastle / Sunderland do and give them the crap seats up in the gods.
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I wonder if it is something to do with witton lane stand. The ad hoardings are very low anyway but there are also gaps to allow supporters onto pitch presumably as an emergency exit.
The problems at Albion game were albio fans surged through one of these gaps to get at villa fans. All police and stewards were then preoccupied with stopping them and that's why there were no stewards in front of villa fans.
Just allocate the upper tier section of the Witton Lane for away fans, problem solved.
And have them throwing objects onto the Villa fans below them........
And going in and out of the ground via the entire length of the stand.
Dave I didn't mean the entire tier, I meant as there are now just extend the upper section a bit.
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I wonder if it is something to do with witton lane stand. The ad hoardings are very low anyway but there are also gaps to allow supporters onto pitch presumably as an emergency exit.
The problems at Albion game were albio fans surged through one of these gaps to get at villa fans. All police and stewards were then preoccupied with stopping them and that's why there were no stewards in front of villa fans.
Just allocate the upper tier section of the Witton Lane for away fans, problem solved.
And have them throwing objects onto the Villa fans below them........
And going in and out of the ground via the entire length of the stand.
Dave I didn't mean the entire tier, I meant as there are now just extend the upper section a bit.
You'd have to give them most of the top tier to provide the 3,000 needed and that impacts on the facilities below.
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What about some steel fencing and barbed wire?
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Just covering up the first two rows of seats would stop most of the invasions
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What about splitting the allocation between upper Witton and upper North Stand?
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What about splitting the allocation between upper Witton and upper North Stand?
Upper North Stand holds about 4,000 so that would give away fans a massive chunk of seating.
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What about splitting the allocation between upper Witton and upper North Stand?
Upper North Stand holds about 4,000 so that would give away fans a massive chunk of seating.
Split it down the middle home and away
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What about splitting the allocation between upper Witton and upper North Stand?
Upper North Stand holds about 4,000 so that would give away fans a massive chunk of seating.
Split it down the middle home and away
I think the FLA might have something to say about that.
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What about splitting the allocation between upper Witton and upper North Stand?
Upper North Stand holds about 4,000 so that would give away fans a massive chunk of seating.
I clearly misunderstood when people said they often gave back lot of their seating allocation.
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I didn't actually see any of them reach the pitch.
You can understand the wild celebration. We'd have done the same.
Why, nothing at stake for Swansea and if we'd done the same it would still be wrong.
The stewarding needs improving
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At least it's an improvement on giving them the lower north as well as the lower witton lane as we used to.
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Safe standing would cut a lot of this shit out. Watched the football league show and there was a match, I think where Sheffield Wednesday scored and fans went careering over seats in wild celebration. It's dangerous.