Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: cdbearsfan on March 21, 2015, 05:57:25 PM
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Can we get rid of it please, it's fucking shite? We're not Bolton.
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I second this petition.
It's not atmosphere.
It's Leicester, it's Palace, it's Bolton, it's something you get at small-time clubs where children are allowed to bring toys in.
It's f***ing annoying, and twice as annoying when the football's shit.
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Speaking to a guy at the train station today who said his steward mate had been told to allow all instruments into the ground as Sherwood wants it as loud as possible.
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This really did my head in - I couldn't concentrate on the game.
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I second this petition.
It's not atmosphere.
It's Leicester, it's Palace, it's Bolton, it's something you get at small-time clubs where children are allowed to bring toys in.
It's f***ing annoying, and twice as annoying when the football's shit.
Im always impressed by the atmosphere at Palace.
As long as the drum isnt within 20 yards of me its fine!
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Can we get rid of it please, it's fucking shite? We're not Bolton.
Why is it shite?
Im pleased we are trying something different. Give it a few games and see if it works to enhance the atmosphere
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Maybe we can get the bugler back on the tannoy.*
*One for the fairly old there
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The Drum has got to go - totally ruined any atmosphere. Agree with previous comment - we are not Bolton - we do not need any stupid gimmicks.
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Embarrasing.
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Maybe we can get the bugler back on the tannoy.*
*One for the fairly old there
UEFA cup games wasn't it ?
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He did it for one UEFA cup game, either Deportivo or Celta Vigo, but I think it was Deportivo, possibly same game they roped off the back of the Holte as it was too big?
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Deportivo. And we are not Bolton.
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Maybe we can get the bugler back on the tannoy.*
*One for the fairly old there
Or Leicester fans. .....
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Hate the drum. It does not add or create an atmosphere.
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It would piss me off a lot more if I was sat by it. It wasn't too annoying hearing it when sat in L3.
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This reminds me of the time they tried to play music after we scored a goal against Arsenal. I'm not a fan of atmosphere enhancement things like this although I was in upper Holte so that "singing section" is rarely audible enough to annoy me
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Christ if today couldn't get any worse. A feckin' drum? I hate watching England home games because of the bloody feeble attempts at manufacturing an atmosphere. Shit it off straight away.
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I didnt hear a drum. Which I'm pleased about.
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This reminds me of the time they tried to play music after we scored a goal against Arsenal. I'm not a fan of atmosphere enhancement things like this although I was in upper Holte so that "singing section" is rarely audible enough to annoy me
Absolutely hate it when clubs do this.
Off the top of my head I can think of Celtic and Burton Albion who literally start their music as soon as the ball hits the net. There's no chance for fans to even celebrate the goal before Tom Hark or the fucking Fratellis blares out.
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Funnily enough I saw the lad with the drum outside and it didn't cross my mind to think WTF !
Oddly I didn't hear it at all but was sat upper trinity in A2
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Hasn't the drum been used at previous games ? I don't like it, don't want to be critical of supporters trying to generate an atmosphere that will help the players, but a drum , come on .
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This reminds me of the time they tried to play music after we scored a goal against Arsenal. I'm not a fan of atmosphere enhancement things like this although I was in upper Holte so that "singing section" is rarely audible enough to annoy me
When was this?
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Deportivo. And we are not Bolton.
I confirm it was Deportivo.
Seem to remember something like 'Land of Hope and Glory' being played before kick-off, too.
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It's freaking annoying and it does nothing for the amosphere.
It just smacks of trying way too hard and the Holte End when it gets going is amazing as it is.
Please get rid.
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Or, playing devil's advocate, the atmosphere today was very "after the lord mayor's show" following the cup game and never really got going (Upper Holte)
Why not try it?
(However, anyone that brings a trumpet in deserves it shoving where the sun doesn't shine)
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Just get Tarzan out of retirement
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Not quite my tempo.
(http://static1.squarespace.com/static/517141efe4b00853b236d991/t/54be82d6e4b07c132e420f69/1421771479652/Whiplash.jpg)
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I second this petition.
It's not atmosphere.
It's Leicester, it's Palace, it's Bolton, it's something you get at small-time clubs where children are allowed to bring toys in.
It's f***ing annoying, and twice as annoying when the football's shit.
Im always impressed by the atmosphere at Palace.
As long as the drum isnt within 20 yards of me its fine!
That's not atmosphere at Palace, it's rent-a-mob with no interest in the game going through an organised repertoire of crappy clappy-hand songs. It's no different to having speakers in the corner blasting out boy scout campfire songs.
Atmosphere at football grounds is the buzz created by the excitement of the play, or the buzz of anticipation of something about to happen, or the spontaneous singing, chanting or roaring of support for your team.
It's noticeable that at grounds where they have some tosser banging a drum, like Leicester when we were there in January, the rest of the crowd is pretty quiet and reluctant to sing anything for fear of little drummer boy thinking he's popular.
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I think we should bring back the pigeon loft in the roof of the Trinity Stand. Makes as much sense as beating a bloody out of tune drum.
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Not quite my tempo.
(http://static1.squarespace.com/static/517141efe4b00853b236d991/t/54be82d6e4b07c132e420f69/1421771479652/Whiplash.jpg)
exactly this.
(though was in holte upper for once - thanks Joe! - so didn't notice it)
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Now, if it was steel drums with benjamin Zephaniah reading his poetry that'd be something worthwhile.
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Fairly close to where the drum is there's an old guy who bangs on the edge of the stand anyway - I don't think it really makes that much difference.
We also have a bit of a problem with getting the upper and lower to sing the same thing at the same time and adding the drum could possibly help co-ordinate that.
Generally, I thought the atmosphere was really flat yesterday anyway, drum or no drum. I think on H&V we are pretty traditional in how we expect support to be, but we don't speak for everybody. I'd rather not have drums , or music after goals, but kids tend to love that stuff, and we do need to keep kids coming through the gates.
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We should get a bloke on a loud hailer to stand at the front and below aggressive sounding songs at the rest of the Holte in Serbian and replace the mild mannered sounding chap who does the announcements with a southern Italian in a £1000 Armani suit.
http://youtu.be/o4zfvoLuoDY
(I will be honest and say I couldn't hear the drum in K3)
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We should get a bloke on a loud hailer to stand at the front and below aggressive sounding songs at the rest of the Holte in Serbian and replace the mild mannered sounding chap who does the announcements with a southern Italian in a £1000 Armani suit.
http://youtu.be/o4zfvoLuoDY
(I will be honest and say I couldn't hear the drum in K3)
Very much this!
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I often have to switch the televised England home games off because the trumpet playing fucks make it unbearable. If i'm really that arsed about the game i'll turn the sound off. I wouldnt be able to do that at the Villa so this would be another reason not to go.
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How about that lion menacingly purring audio every time we get a corner or throw (near their 18 yard box) ? Just a thought
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Can we play the Tom Hark every time we score too please.
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Tom Hanks?
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Can we play the Tom Hark every time we score too please.
Jesus. If that ever happened at VP I'd seriously consider packing it up.
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What about Rock and Roll part II
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Can we play the Tom Hark every time we score too please.
Jesus. If that ever happened at VP I'd seriously consider packing it up.
Whilst bella runs down the touch line holding aloft a Villa flag...
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Well I'm bringing my kazoo with me next match. I'm going to try and get the themetune from Van der Valk started
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Well I'm bringing my kazoo with me next match. I'm going to try and get the themetune from Van der Valk started
Good choice
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Well I'm bringing my kazoo with me next match. I'm going to try and get the themetune from Van der Valk started
I shall accompany you on my trumpet.
However I will be playing much lower than eye level.
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I second this petition.
It's not atmosphere.
It's Leicester, it's Palace, it's Bolton, it's something you get at small-time clubs where children are allowed to bring toys in.
It's f***ing annoying, and twice as annoying when the football's shit.
Im always impressed by the atmosphere at Palace.
As long as the drum isnt within 20 yards of me its fine!
That's not atmosphere at Palace, it's rent-a-mob with no interest in the game going through an organised repertoire of crappy clappy-hand songs. It's no different to having speakers in the corner blasting out boy scout campfire songs.
Atmosphere at football grounds is the buzz created by the excitement of the play, or the buzz of anticipation of something about to happen, or the spontaneous singing, chanting or roaring of support for your team.
It's noticeable that at grounds where they have some tosser banging a drum, like Leicester when we were there in January, the rest of the crowd is pretty quiet and reluctant to sing anything for fear of little drummer boy thinking he's popular.
Quality rant. Agree with every word.
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I didnt hear a drum. Which I'm pleased about.
Same here.
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Well I'm bringing my kazoo with me next match. I'm going to try and get the themetune from Van der Valk started
I shall accompany you on my trumpet.
However I will be playing much lower than eye level.
I'm bringing my Vuvuzela. That'll wake the fuckers up round me in the Upper Trinity
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Well I'm bringing my kazoo with me next match. I'm going to try and get the themetune from Van der Valk started
I shall accompany you on my trumpet.
However I will be playing much lower than eye level.
I'm bringing my Vuvuzela. That'll wake the fuckers up round me in the Upper Trinity
Jeeps - make sure there are extra paramedics on duty.
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I didnt hear a drum. Which I'm pleased about.
Same here.
I didn't hear it either. Which was nice.
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I didnt hear a drum. Which I'm pleased about.
Same here.
I didn't hear it either. Which was nice.
I didn't hear it either but that doesn't alter my view that drums and all other musical instruments have no place at football.
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I was in the upper Holte and heard it all game
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More annoying than any drum was hearing a chorus of "fuck the Albion". Why the fuck sing about those twats when we aren't playing them? That's what the Bitters want, us giving them attention.
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They play music in one day cricket and rugby internationals. Sports which do this strike me as trying far too hard to grab a little of the immediacy of football - there are so many natural breaks in them that they can't help but strive for the passion football is supposed to have in abundance. There are plenty of crap football matches but we have no need of it in the sport.
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As far as I'm concerned, the only Drum allowed with any connection to Birmingham is the one capsizing with Simon Le Bon aboard.
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As far as I'm concerned, the only Drum allowed with any connection to Birmingham is the one capsizing with Simon Le Bon aboard.
Bravo.
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More annoying than any drum was hearing a chorus of "fuck the Albion". Why the fuck sing about those twats when we aren't playing them? That's what the Bitters want, us giving them attention.
Correct.
Not to mention the one ahout The Other Lot.
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Well I'm bringing my kazoo with me next match. I'm going to try and get the themetune from Van der Valk started
I shall accompany you on my trumpet.
However I will be playing much lower than eye level.
I'm bringing my Vuvuzela. That'll wake the fuckers up round me in the Upper Trinity
I will make sure my comb and tissue paper are at the ready.
It may not wake anybody up but it will annoy the absolute f**k out of them!
:D
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we have a drum?
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The question was asked a few pages back so I can't quote it but whoever asked when Villa played music after a goal, it was after Villa fan Craig Gardner scored at the North Stand against Arsenal, can't remember exactly when. It was Chelsea Dagger I think.
I remember there being quite a backlash and the General was on here defending it but confirmed it would be shelved.
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I second this petition.
That's not atmosphere at Palace, it's rent-a-mob with no interest in the game going through an organised repertoire of crappy clappy-hand songs. It's no different to having speakers in the corner blasting out boy scout campfire songs.
Atmosphere at football grounds is the buzz created by the excitement of the play, or the buzz of anticipation of something about to happen, or the spontaneous singing, chanting or roaring of support for your team.
It's noticeable that at grounds where they have some tosser banging a drum, like Leicester when we were there in January, the rest of the crowd is pretty quiet and reluctant to sing anything for fear of little drummer boy thinking he's popular.
Make sure you never go to a Boca Juniors game, you would hate it.
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we have a drum?
Hello.
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we have a drum?
Hello.
You're not wanted :(
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Can we not swap the drum for horse and bugler or whatever they had at Boro that time many moons ago? Or am I dreaming that?
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How do you get a horse through the turnstiles?
Apart from in a pie that is.
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The question was asked a few pages back so I can't quote it but whoever asked when Villa played music after a goal, it was after Villa fan Craig Gardner scored at the North Stand against Arsenal, can't remember exactly when. It was Chelsea Dagger I think.
I remember there being quite a backlash and the General was on here defending it but confirmed it would be shelved.
It was indeed Chelsea Dagger. I remember us all looking at each other and saying "What the fuck?!?" The General got pelters over that on his thread and we never heard it again thank fuck!
I could hear the drum from P8 above the Swansea fans next to us. Fucking annoying it was too. Get rid please!
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Advance warning. If the drummer has a Wembley ticket anywhere near block 150 he'll need medical assistance to remove it from his fart pipe.
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Can we play the Tom Hark every time we score too please.
Jesus. If that ever happened at VP I'd seriously consider packing it up.
We used to have it in the mid 80s didn't we? Maybe the music we ran out to?
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I have heard the drum has a booking history of it's own so qualifies for a wembley ticket block 150.
To quote Nelson off the Simpsons "har har"
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Advance warning. If the drummer has a Wembley ticket anywhere near block 150 he'll need medical assistance to remove it from his fart pipe.
Chortle
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I have heard the drum has a booking history of it's own so qualifies for a wembley ticket block 150.
To quote Nelson off the Simpsons "har har"
He'd better take some lube with him then. And no, I don't fancy him either.
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So... judging by the posts I'd say the vast majority don't want a drum at the game. Would anyone who knows him (or her, but, let's face it, it's probably a him) kindly request that he bows to the democratic will of fellow Villa fans and leaves his drum at home tomorrow please?
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You think someone like that would listen?
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For the record, it wasn't me.
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We need as much noise as possible tomorrow so i'm bringing a comb and some paper. Or a grand piano. I haven't decided which yet.
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I'm bringing a harp
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I'm bringing a harp
Us blues fans may see a different connotation to that.
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I'm bringing a harp
Us blues fans may see a different connotation to that.
I knew it! He's one of them!
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I'm bringing a harp
Us blues fans may see a different connotation to that.
I knew it! He's one of them!
Never denied it. In fact I used to make more money off blues fans than Villa.
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For the record, it wasn't me.
I guessed, the drummer wasn't playing The Death March or Suicide is Painless.
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For the record, it wasn't me.
I guessed, the drummer wasn't playing The Death March or Suicide is Painless.
Yawn
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Well, that's put me in my place.
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Sonny Boy Williamson is a Villa fan
8)
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Sonny Boy Williamson is a Villa fan
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Which one ? SBW I or SBW II
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Didn't hear him last night. Hopefully he's done a John "Stumpy" Pepys.