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Title: Arsenal away league cup semi 96. Who scored our two goals please?
Post by: Lucky Eddie on March 14, 2015, 09:42:37 PM
I reckon Dwight scored both?

I've got a pint on this cheers
Title: Re: Arsenal away league cup semi 96. Who scored our two goals please?
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 14, 2015, 09:44:57 PM
I reckon Dwight scored both?

I've got a pint on this cheers

Ask for Batham's.
Title: Re: Arsenal away league cup semi 96. Who scored our two goals please?
Post by: pauliewalnuts on March 14, 2015, 09:45:30 PM
Yorke x 2
Title: Re: Arsenal away league cup semi 96. Who scored our two goals please?
Post by: supertom on March 14, 2015, 09:46:02 PM
Yeah, pretty sure it was a Dwight double. Think Bergkamp got a double for them.
Title: Re: Arsenal away league cup semi 96. Who scored our two goals please?
Post by: Sexual Ealing on March 14, 2015, 09:48:37 PM
Definitely Yorke with both.
Title: Re: Arsenal away league cup semi 96. Who scored our two goals please?
Post by: oldhill_avfc on March 14, 2015, 09:53:29 PM
I reckon Dwight scored both?

I've got a pint on this cheers

Ask for Batham's.

F**k off - we dont let the Brummie to**ers anywhere near it.
Title: Re: Arsenal away league cup semi 96. Who scored our two goals please?
Post by: cdbearsfan on March 14, 2015, 09:55:02 PM
Excellent link for Villa results, line-ups and scorers below. Sadly, seems to have lost interest (perhaps understandably) at the end of 2012-13. Not too vital though as all recent seasons have their own Wikipedia articles anyway.

http://home.aland.net/bolin.jakobsson/villamatches/
Title: Re: Arsenal away league cup semi 96. Who scored our two goals please?
Post by: cdbearsfan on March 14, 2015, 09:57:08 PM
I reckon Dwight scored both?

I've got a pint on this cheers

Ask for Batham's.

F**k off - we dont let the Brummie to**ers anywhere near it.

Reported for racism.
Title: Re: Arsenal away league cup semi 96. Who scored our two goals please?
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on March 14, 2015, 09:59:04 PM


Watch from 2.00
Title: Re: Arsenal away league cup semi 96. Who scored our two goals please?
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 14, 2015, 10:07:19 PM
I reckon Dwight scored both?

I've got a pint on this cheers

Ask for Batham's.

F**k off - we dont let the Brummie to**ers anywhere near it.

Reported for racism.

I feel the same about the Villa and yam yam to**ers.
Title: Re: Arsenal away league cup semi 96. Who scored our two goals please?
Post by: lovejoy on March 14, 2015, 10:18:57 PM
I was in the back of the North bank for that one, a great Big Ron performance.
Title: Re: Arsenal away league cup semi 96. Who scored our two goals please?
Post by: Deano's Mullet on March 14, 2015, 10:49:43 PM
You mean Brian little
Title: Re: Arsenal away league cup semi 96. Who scored our two goals please?
Post by: eamonn on March 14, 2015, 11:28:44 PM
Who was better in their pomp, Bergkamp or Yorkie ?
Title: Re: Arsenal away league cup semi 96. Who scored our two goals please?
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 14, 2015, 11:31:06 PM
Bergkamp with ease.
Title: Re: Arsenal away league cup semi 96. Who scored our two goals please?
Post by: silhillvilla on March 14, 2015, 11:32:00 PM
Who was better in their pomp, Bergkamp or Yorkie ?
Yorke all day long for me .
Title: Re: Arsenal away league cup semi 96. Who scored our two goals please?
Post by: Walmley_Villa on March 14, 2015, 11:40:32 PM
Loved that game. Was next to the barrier with the Arse fans to my right. We went fecking bananas with the second equaliser and gave the home fans hell. Thanks Dwight.
Title: Re: Arsenal away league cup semi 96. Who scored our two goals please?
Post by: Sheldon_Villa on March 14, 2015, 11:49:43 PM
I reckon Dwight scored both?

I've got a pint on this cheers

Ask for Batham's.

F**k off - we dont let the Brummie to**ers anywhere near it.
What the fuck does that mean?
Title: Re: Arsenal away league cup semi 96. Who scored our two goals please?
Post by: Lucky Eddie on March 15, 2015, 07:52:36 AM
Cheers everyone.
Title: Re: Arsenal away league cup semi 96. Who scored our two goals please?
Post by: Matt Collins on March 15, 2015, 08:05:06 AM
It was Yorke twice

But bergkamp was definitely the better player. One of the best ever in the league
Title: Re: Arsenal away league cup semi 96. Who scored our two goals please?
Post by: Stu on March 15, 2015, 08:30:31 AM
I reckon Dwight scored both?

I've got a pint on this cheers

Ask for Batham's.

F**k off - we dont let the Brummie to**ers anywhere near it.
What the fuck does that mean?

Yam yam beer to be kept west of the M5.

I'm undercover over here though, so I'm going to tell you where to find this shit. Wollaston, near Stourbridge, at The Unicorn and The Royal Exchange.

Proper pubs over here, ay it?
Title: Re: Arsenal away league cup semi 96. Who scored our two goals please?
Post by: richard moore on March 15, 2015, 08:35:41 AM
Who was better in their pomp, Bergkamp or Yorkie ?
Yorke all day long for me .

Much as I'd love to agree with you, Bergkamp by some considerable distance for me
Title: Re: Arsenal away league cup semi 96. Who scored our two goals please?
Post by: olaftab on March 15, 2015, 08:40:31 AM
No disrespect to our own but Bergkamp was truly world class. Yorke just about international level.
Title: Re: Arsenal away league cup semi 96. Who scored our two goals please?
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 15, 2015, 12:16:24 PM
Yorke had 3 or 4 years where he would have walked into nearly any side in the world. Bergkamp had a career where he would have walked into any side in the world, that is the difference.
Title: Re: Arsenal away league cup semi 96. Who scored our two goals please?
Post by: Lky on March 15, 2015, 04:18:59 PM
Its hard to admit (for me anyway) but Yorke was absolute quality in the year Red scum won the European cup - something I don't think Berkamp achieved; Yorke playing the lone striker role away from home. He may not have done it in the final but he certainly performed in the other rounds.
Title: Re: Arsenal away league cup semi 96. Who scored our two goals please?
Post by: Tokyo Sexwhale on March 15, 2015, 04:28:33 PM
I don't think many would have Yorke at his peak, over Bergkamp at his peak.

And there are plenty of players who have won the European Cup/Champions League that aren't fit to lace Bergkamp's boots.



Title: Re: Arsenal away league cup semi 96. Who scored our two goals please?
Post by: rob_bridge on March 15, 2015, 04:55:24 PM
96-99 Yorke was probably as good.

Either side Bergksmp for sure and by a distance.
Title: Re: Arsenal away league cup semi 96. Who scored our two goals please?
Post by: pauliewalnuts on March 15, 2015, 05:01:47 PM
Bergkamp was one of the half a dozen best players to play in the premier league.

Yorke was great for us, but nowhere near as good.
Title: Re: Arsenal away league cup semi 96. Who scored our two goals please?
Post by: supertom on March 15, 2015, 05:05:49 PM
It was Yorke twice

But bergkamp was definitely the better player. One of the best ever in the league
I loved Yorkie, but Bergkamp is probably my favourite ever Premiership player. On his game he was a joy to watch, and considering that meant watching Arsenal, that's quite something. Very few players could score goals like the one he scored against Leicester (he also scored a similar one playing for Holland against Argentina) and that goal against Newcastle. Astonishing first touch.
Title: Re: Arsenal away league cup semi 96. Who scored our two goals please?
Post by: pauliewalnuts on March 15, 2015, 05:09:21 PM
Arsenal fans don't know how lucky they are.

Henry, Bergkamp and Vieira - I'd put them all in the top ten premier league era players.
Title: Re: Arsenal away league cup semi 96. Who scored our two goals please?
Post by: supertom on March 15, 2015, 05:23:09 PM
Arsenal fans don't know how lucky they are.

Henry, Bergkamp and Vieira - I'd put them all in the top ten premier league era players.
Just looking back at some of their players too, they had an awesome back line in the late 90's. Then in 02-04, the likes of Pires as well.
I also think Henry and Bergkamp is probably the best front two the Prem has ever had. Plenty of goals but both players were also technically exceptional to boot, and Henry of course had pace to burn back in the day.

They should have won the European cup and that will end up being a blot on Wengers CV to be honest. I think Arsene has had sides as good as, if not better than Utd's 99 treble winners.

There weren't too many players around as technically gifted as Bergkamp. Zidane would be one such example of someone as exceptional at manipulating a football, and he of course won everything.

I honestly don't see a player in this league as impressive at the moment. The players of that class level are mostly playing in Spain.
Title: Re: Arsenal away league cup semi 96. Who scored our two goals please?
Post by: supertom on March 15, 2015, 05:25:33 PM

Not too many players in history who could produce stuff like this. I could watch highlight reels of guys like Bergkamp and ZZ all day.


That said, I could also watch reels of Yorke all day too. Still a fucking quality player.
Title: Re: Arsenal away league cup semi 96. Who scored our two goals please?
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on March 15, 2015, 06:38:58 PM
Arsenal fans don't know how lucky they are.

Henry, Bergkamp and Vieira - I'd put them all in the top ten premier league era players.

Wenger had Bruce Rioch to thank for Bergkamp.
Title: Re: Arsenal away league cup semi 96. Who scored our two goals please?
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 15, 2015, 07:26:11 PM
I still remember getting ready for work one day and the main sports news on breakfast tv was that Bergkamp was about to sign for us. Within a couple of days he had signed for Arsenal.
Title: Re: Arsenal away league cup semi 96. Who scored our two goals please?
Post by: ACVilla on March 15, 2015, 07:29:41 PM
Who was better in their pomp, Bergkamp or Yorkie ?
Cheers, that gave me a laugh😄
Title: Re: Arsenal away league cup semi 96. Who scored our two goals please?
Post by: Dave on March 15, 2015, 07:48:09 PM

3 mins 44.

*swoon*
Title: Re: Arsenal away league cup semi 96. Who scored our two goals please?
Post by: saunders_heroes on March 15, 2015, 07:51:52 PM
Sat in the seat behind Lee Hendrie at Arsenal that night, he went ballistic as our goals went in.
Title: Re: Arsenal away league cup semi 96. Who scored our two goals please?
Post by: Villa in Denmark on March 15, 2015, 08:48:06 PM
Arsenal fans don't know how lucky they are.

Henry, Bergkamp and Vieira - I'd put them all in the top ten premier league era players.
Just looking back at some of their players too, they had an awesome back line in the late 90's. Then in 02-04, the likes of Pires as well.
I also think Henry and Bergkamp is probably the best front two the Prem has ever had. Plenty of goals but both players were also technically exceptional to boot, and Henry of course had pace to burn back in the day.

They should have won the European cup and that will end up being a blot on Wengers CV to be honest. I think Arsene has had sides as good as, if not better than Utd's 99 treble winners.

There weren't too many players around as technically gifted as Bergkamp. Zidane would be one such example of someone as exceptional at manipulating a football, and he of course won everything.

I honestly don't see a player in this league as impressive at the moment. The players of that class level are mostly playing in Spain.

It might be my memory playing tricks, but I'm pretty sure that Bergkamp developed a fear of flying which meant that anywhere that couldn't be reached by rail within 24 hrs was off limits for european matches, which significantly limited his appearances in the CL and had the obvious effect of weakening that Arsenal team.
Title: Re: Arsenal away league cup semi 96. Who scored our two goals please?
Post by: supertom on March 15, 2015, 08:49:53 PM
Arsenal fans don't know how lucky they are.

Henry, Bergkamp and Vieira - I'd put them all in the top ten premier league era players.
Just looking back at some of their players too, they had an awesome back line in the late 90's. Then in 02-04, the likes of Pires as well.
I also think Henry and Bergkamp is probably the best front two the Prem has ever had. Plenty of goals but both players were also technically exceptional to boot, and Henry of course had pace to burn back in the day.

They should have won the European cup and that will end up being a blot on Wengers CV to be honest. I think Arsene has had sides as good as, if not better than Utd's 99 treble winners.

There weren't too many players around as technically gifted as Bergkamp. Zidane would be one such example of someone as exceptional at manipulating a football, and he of course won everything.

I honestly don't see a player in this league as impressive at the moment. The players of that class level are mostly playing in Spain.

It might be my memory playing tricks, but I'm pretty sure that Bergkamp developed a fear of flying which meant that anywhere that couldn't be reached by rail within 24 hrs was off limits for european matches, which significantly limited his appearances in the CL and had the obvious effect of weakening that Arsenal team.
Ah yes. I forgot about that. Undoubtedly that must have hampered them in some games.
Title: Re: Arsenal away league cup semi 96. Who scored our two goals please?
Post by: eric woolban woolban on March 15, 2015, 09:18:54 PM
Aguero probably the closest.
Title: Re: Arsenal away league cup semi 96. Who scored our two goals please?
Post by: Villa in Denmark on March 15, 2015, 09:40:24 PM
Arsenal fans don't know how lucky they are.

Henry, Bergkamp and Vieira - I'd put them all in the top ten premier league era players.
Just looking back at some of their players too, they had an awesome back line in the late 90's. Then in 02-04, the likes of Pires as well.
I also think Henry and Bergkamp is probably the best front two the Prem has ever had. Plenty of goals but both players were also technically exceptional to boot, and Henry of course had pace to burn back in the day.

They should have won the European cup and that will end up being a blot on Wengers CV to be honest. I think Arsene has had sides as good as, if not better than Utd's 99 treble winners.

There weren't too many players around as technically gifted as Bergkamp. Zidane would be one such example of someone as exceptional at manipulating a football, and he of course won everything.

I honestly don't see a player in this league as impressive at the moment. The players of that class level are mostly playing in Spain.

It might be my memory playing tricks, but I'm pretty sure that Bergkamp developed a fear of flying which meant that anywhere that couldn't be reached by rail within 24 hrs was off limits for european matches, which significantly limited his appearances in the CL and had the obvious effect of weakening that Arsenal team.
Ah yes. I forgot about that. Undoubtedly that must have hampered them in some games.

It probably ties in with them always cruising through the group stages, then struggling if they got drawn against anyone half decent that was further away than northern Spain or Italy or east of Berlin in the knock-out stages. (purely arbitrary statement with no research to back it up, so feel free to show me up :) )
Title: Re: Arsenal away league cup semi 96. Who scored our two goals please?
Post by: rob_bridge on March 15, 2015, 09:47:27 PM
Arsenal fans don't know how lucky they are.

Henry, Bergkamp and Vieira - I'd put them all in the top ten premier league era players.

Wenger had Bruce Rioch to thank for Bergkamp.

I thought David Dein was instrumental in the signing and closed the deal. Rioch  wasn't allowed to sign plsyers due to the prior Graham scandal
Title: Re: Arsenal away league cup semi 96. Who scored our two goals please?
Post by: tomd2103 on March 16, 2015, 12:41:31 PM
It was Yorke twice

But bergkamp was definitely the better player. One of the best ever in the league

They were a different type of striker.  Would have made a very good partnership with Bergkamp playing off Yorke at his peak.   
Title: Re: Arsenal away league cup semi 96. Who scored our two goals please?
Post by: tomd2103 on March 16, 2015, 12:46:00 PM
Arsenal fans don't know how lucky they are.

Henry, Bergkamp and Vieira - I'd put them all in the top ten premier league era players.
Just looking back at some of their players too, they had an awesome back line in the late 90's. Then in 02-04, the likes of Pires as well.
I also think Henry and Bergkamp is probably the best front two the Prem has ever had. Plenty of goals but both players were also technically exceptional to boot, and Henry of course had pace to burn back in the day.

They should have won the European cup and that will end up being a blot on Wengers CV to be honest. I think Arsene has had sides as good as, if not better than Utd's 99 treble winners.

There weren't too many players around as technically gifted as Bergkamp. Zidane would be one such example of someone as exceptional at manipulating a football, and he of course won everything.

I honestly don't see a player in this league as impressive at the moment. The players of that class level are mostly playing in Spain.

Like Manchester United at their best during the same period, Arsenal had a very strong and physical element down the spine of their side which made them very difficult to play against.  When they played each other in the Cup last week, it is apparent that neither of them have that any more.     
Title: Re: Arsenal away league cup semi 96. Who scored our two goals please?
Post by: Damo70 on March 16, 2015, 01:04:58 PM
Arsenal fans don't know how lucky they are.

Henry, Bergkamp and Vieira - I'd put them all in the top ten premier league era players.
Just looking back at some of their players too, they had an awesome back line in the late 90's. Then in 02-04, the likes of Pires as well.
I also think Henry and Bergkamp is probably the best front two the Prem has ever had. Plenty of goals but both players were also technically exceptional to boot, and Henry of course had pace to burn back in the day.

They should have won the European cup and that will end up being a blot on Wengers CV to be honest. I think Arsene has had sides as good as, if not better than Utd's 99 treble winners.

There weren't too many players around as technically gifted as Bergkamp. Zidane would be one such example of someone as exceptional at manipulating a football, and he of course won everything.

I honestly don't see a player in this league as impressive at the moment. The players of that class level are mostly playing in Spain.

Like Manchester United at their best during the same period, Arsenal had a very strong and physical element down the spine of their side which made them very difficult to play against.  When they played each other in the Cup last week, it is apparent that neither of them have that any more.   


Arsenal's double winners had Seaman in goal with Keown, Bould and Adams as centre halfs and Petit and Vieira in the centre of midfield. Uniteds treble winners the following year had Schmeichel, Johnsen, Stam, Keane, Scholes and Butt. Compare that to their current sides. Mourinho always makes sure Chelsea have a strong spine and City have the likes of Kompany and Toure these days. United and Arsenal have fallen behind in that respect.
Title: Re: Arsenal away league cup semi 96. Who scored our two goals please?
Post by: asgpaul on March 16, 2015, 02:58:51 PM
Nigel Spink was sat a few rows in front of me for that game, in with the away supporters which i thought was class. 
Title: Re: Arsenal away league cup semi 96. Who scored our two goals please?
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on March 16, 2015, 03:02:33 PM
I don't think many would have Yorke at his peak, over Bergkamp at his peak.

And there are plenty of players who have won the European Cup/Champions League that aren't fit to lace Bergkamp's boots.





I don't know, Djimi Traore was a pretty good player.
Title: Re: Arsenal away league cup semi 96. Who scored our two goals please?
Post by: Deano's Mullet on March 16, 2015, 10:30:54 PM
For one season at least I was able to say Savo Milosevic was better than Bergkamp! He ended his first season with more goals and a cup compared to Bergkamp who scored fewer and didn't win sod all in 95-96. Not sure how it all turned out after that ha ha
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