Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Gregorys Boy on February 19, 2015, 09:03:30 AM
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So we have gotten to the exciting stage where we can all start dreaming of our first final in 15 years, and maybe actually winning the damn thing for the first time since 57! But given all our problems and the other teams still left in just how far do you think we get this season. The West Brom game is a bit of a coin toss. They are looking much better under Pulis, its a derby, and think they will be just as fired up to get to wembley as us. But with a near packed Villa Park and a bit of momentum from the league fingers crossed then I think we can edge this one. Think I will go for a semi-final defeat to Liverpool who I think will win the whole thing this season.
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So we have gotten to the exciting stage where we can all start dreaming of our first final in 15 years, and maybe actually winning the damn thing for the first time since 57! But given all our problems and the other teams still left in just how far do you think we get this season. The West Brom game is a bit of a coin toss. They are looking much better under Pulis, its a derby, and think they will be just as fired up to get to wembley as us. But with a near packed Villa Park and a bit of momentum from the league fingers crossed then I think we can edge this one. Think I will go for a semi-final defeat to Liverpool who I think will win the whole thing this season.
If beating the Albion to reach the semis isn't incentive enough for us this season, the prospect of pissing on Stevie Gerrard's farewell to Liverpool ( the final is on his birthday, according to just about every article written about the FA cup this season). Beat Liverpool at Wembley, Stevie G blarting his eyes out, beautiful.
To think, this time last week I had us down as relegation certainties, now I'm planning my cup final weekend. I think I'm bi-polar
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I can't imagine winning the damn thing. It's been my greatest wish to see it happen, and I refuse to get over excited at the possibility.
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I feel like under Sherwood we'll go back to being one of these teams that aren't necessarily that good but can beat anyone on the day. Which just so happens to be perfect for cup football - good timing!
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I have to admit the I always liked Gerrard, as a player, but once he was fixed with 'Stevie G' and then the media insisted on calling him 'Stephen' I went off him.
If Liverpool do get to the final the media will be over them like a rash. Then just before kick off they'll mention the other team.
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I feel like under Sherwood we'll go back to being one of these teams that aren't necessarily that good but can beat anyone on the day. Which just so happens to be perfect for cup football - good timing!
This. Although if Liverpool do get to the final I'm leaving the country for a month to escape the wankfest Stevie G love-in.
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"No-one would begrudge this Fa Cup win for Liverpool and in particular for one Stephen Gerrard..."
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So we have gotten to the exciting stage where we can all start dreaming of our first final in 15 years, and maybe actually winning the damn thing for the first time since 57! But given all our problems and the other teams still left in just how far do you think we get this season. The West Brom game is a bit of a coin toss. They are looking much better under Pulis, its a derby, and think they will be just as fired up to get to wembley as us. But with a near packed Villa Park and a bit of momentum from the league fingers crossed then I think we can edge this one. Think I will go for a semi-final defeat to Liverpool who I think will win the whole thing this season.
If beating the Albion to reach the semis isn't incentive enough for us this season, the prospect of pissing on Stevie Gerrard's farewell to Liverpool ( the final is on his birthday, according to just about every article written about the FA cup this season). Beat Liverpool at Wembley, Stevie G blarting his eyes out, beautiful.
To think, this time last week I had us down as relegation certainties, now I'm planning my cup final weekend. I think I'm bi-polar
one of the greatest things I have ever seen in all my footballing years is Gerards slip against Chelsea last season, I think this may just eclipse that
everybodies favourite other team my arse!!!
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I never want to see Liverpool win anything again. I despise them and love it when they fail.
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I couldn't give a monkey's about Liverpool or Gerrard. Villa to win the FA Cup, please.
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We won't win the FA Cup. Even if we were good enough to win it, which all the evidence suggests we're not, I doubt we'd be allowed to win it. Certainly not if Liverpool are the other finalist (should we manage to get that far). Losing another FA Cup final, to Liverpool, by a Stevie G free kick or a dodgy penalty would be the stuff of nightmares. I doubt it'll come to that, though. Liverpool / Arsenal final. Hope Arsenal spoil the Stevie G Jism-Jamboree.
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I've gone for losing in the final, as I can't believe I'll ever see us win the bloody thing, but we must have a win over one of the remaining rich kids to get to the final. (No way we'll be lucky enough to draw the winner of Reading/Bradford.)
Be interesting to see how the 11% who say that the quarter finals are the end of line for us match up with the predictions in the pre-match thread when we get there.
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The thread title should be:-
Tim Sherwood's Villa and the FA Cup
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I'll be gobsmacked if we don't win it.
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"No-one would begrudge this Fa Cup win for Liverpool and in particular for one Stephen Gerrard..."
*pukes*
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It will be a repeat of the 1957 Cup Final. It's written in the stars.
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i'll readily admit that i'm carried away with excitement at the prospect of an FA cup win. I was at wembley in 2000 and it was without doubt my worse day as a Villa supporter.
Though if you look at it rationally and go with the odds, at the semi final stage there's only likely to be Utd / Arsenal, Liverpool and one other team to beat to get to the final. clearly there's no reason our current form would suggest we'd beat liverpool or say Utd in a semi-final, but for me its a lot more realistic that we would beat either of them than if chelsea or man city were still in it.
Nowhere near easy, but probably as 'easy' as it gets for us to get to the final these days.
Once there, its the cup final. anyone can beat anyone on the day.
Perfect scenario would be the same result as in our last FA cup final against Utd, closely followed by pissing on gerrard's sick-inducing swansong. Actually that might be better. I 'll have to give it some consideration...
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It's better not to get carried away. We have to beat Albion yet, and we couldn't even manage that last time out. If we do overcome that little hurdle, I'll start dreaming after the semi-final draw is made.
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It will be a repeat of the 1957 Cup Final. It's written in the stars.
and the same score please :)
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The Doc
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It will be a repeat of the 1957 Cup Final. It's written in the stars.
With hopefully the same result and book ending nicely the last miserable 58 years.
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I won't allow myself to get carried away yet but what I will say is this: we are good enough to beat any of the remaining teams left in the competition - I have no doubts at all about that. If our name is on the Cup we will win it, if it isn't to be our year so be it.
Another thing I am certain of - and I'm not typing this as some kind of sentimental nonsense - is the power and will of our supporters. If we harness the pains and experiences of the past four years and multiply this by the frustrations this Cup has dealt us since '57 I reckon there will be no hungrier and desperate-to-win club than Aston Villa. Cute, utterly meaningless, TV executive S. Gerrard narratives included, I'll be very surprised if there is any club out there more prepared to battle over the line for the trophy than The Villa.
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I'll be a bit more positive about our chances when I see how we play under Sherwood over the next couple of weeks. Cup competitions are largely about confidence and belief - it's only rarely they're won completely on talent and skill. We have a squad that I'd back to win one game that really counted, but I'm too pessimistic to think that we're ready to do that yet.
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It will be a repeat of the 1957 Cup Final. It's written in the stars.
With hopefully the same result and book ending nicely the last miserable 58 years.
Can't say that all of the intervening 58 years have been miserable, there were a couple of highlight sat the start of the 80's :)
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In the words of the late, great Donna Summer (or one of the S/A/W mob wot wrote it), 'This time I know it's for real'.
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Do you know, if we had lost just one less FA Cup match every season since 1957, we would now have won the FA Cup over 60 times? How fine the margins are, eh?
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It will be a repeat of the 1957 Cup Final. It's written in the stars.
With hopefully the same result and book ending nicely the last miserable 58 years.
58 miserable years?
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It will be a repeat of the 1957 Cup Final. It's written in the stars.
With hopefully the same result and book ending nicely the last miserable 58 years.
58 miserable years?
Sorry, to be clear, 58 miserable FA Cup runs. Though I've just realised its 57 years and I'm getting ahead of myself! You see Villa this is what you've turned me into, I've already written it off and we've not been knocked out yet!
Shall I just go back to bed?
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If we can avoid Arsenal we have a chance of getting to the Final.
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It's better not to get carried away. We have to beat Albion yet, and we couldn't even manage that last time out. If we do overcome that little hurdle, I'll start dreaming after the semi-final draw is made.
And that is the way to look at it. To reach the semi final would be a major achievement if we do it.
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I didn't even realise Donna Summer was dead.
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The thread title should be:-
Tim Sherwood's Villa and the FA Cup
Good point! Get one of the admin to change it.
I go along with the not getting too carried away, at least not until we are in the semi's at least. I do see West Brom being a very tough nut to crack in the next round, that game could really go either way.
Don't agree with people saying we are not good enough to win it. That is the big difference between the cup and league that in the cup it is very much on the day. If you get a run of good draws, get the rub of the green and play outstanding at least once then you have a chance. Besides I am sure than worse sides than us I have won it. I would say we can win it, but that there are enough good sides left in, and smaller sides who can still cause an upset to make it really difficult for us to win it.