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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Ads on February 11, 2015, 08:45:55 AM
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With the need to find out the routes to places such as Brighton and Rotherham becoming less of a fear and more of a certainty, should the inevitable happen and Lambert relegates us, who out of the current squad will stick around?
Also, given what's left, is that enough and would we spend the stock £7million over the summer and would that make a difference?
Personally I think the following will go, some because their contract expires;
Vlaar
Cleverley
Guzan
Delph
Benteke
Sinclair
Given
Bent
There may be others and it is a case of how badly do we need to move others on.
I think Kozak would do well in the second division as he finds space. His game isn't about pace. Two touch Westwood would get more room and do ok, but we would need two wide men and two strikers as Gabby and Andi aren't up to it, while the midfield would be ok defensively if we retain Sanchez. Gil may well go, but if we kept him, he would murder that league.
Basically what we're left with isn't that bad, but I am hoping we would do a Newcastle and the fear is that Lambert would still be in charge.
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and there you have it - Lambert. it doesn't matter one iota who plays or what the tactics or formation are. nothing changes until he goes.
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Gabby and Andi would do alright in the Championship I reckon.
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I think that after his reasonable season, there'd be a chance of offloading Hutton's contract
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It doesn't matter who stays or goes while Paul Lambert is in charge.
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It doesn't matter who stays or goes while Paul Lambert is in charge.
This
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Goalkeepers tend to be loyal and stick around.
Guzan will stay.
Steer could be an able deputy.
Defence:
Vlaar would go, as to will Cissokho.
But I reckon the defence squad we have at the moment would do well and grow in confidence.
I would even consider using a back three of Okore, Clark (capt) and Baker. We also have Senderos.
Wing backs would be Bennett (doing fine at Brighton by all accounts) and either buy one in or give Lowton a chance at the lower level.
Although Hutton has done well this season he does lack a touch of pace.
Depending on formation used I would look at a couple of wing/full backs.
Midfield:
Delph will go.
Cleverly won't sign after loan.
Sinclair? It depends if anyone else is keen.
So a midfield three of Sanchez, Westwood (in a more advanced roll) and Gil would easily be good enough.
Grelish would also figure.
I would certainly look to bolster in this department, though.
Attack:
I'm not sure there'll be many willing to take a risk on Benteke, so he'll have at least a season with us.
Gabby, Andi & Kozak would be more than capable of doing well.
Robinson should be given a chance at this level, as he did well at Preston
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They've all be shit so none of them are a loss to the club. Thats the only small mercy about going down, there isnt a single player at the club I'd keep.
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They've all be shit so none of them are a loss to the club. Thats the only small mercy about going down, there isnt a single player at the club I'd keep.
Pretty much agree. Apart from Kozak, Gil and Guzan, I'd get rid. Sick of the sight of this lot.
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We could do with shifting N'Zogbia on as well, think he's contracted to 2016 and probably has pretty large wages.
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We'd have to have people want to buy them.
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The only ones I can think of that we'd struggle to shift would be Given, Zog, Cole and Senderos.
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The only ones I can think of that we'd struggle to shift would be Given, Zog, Cole and Senderos.
How long have all these guys got left on their contracts?
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They all have next season I think.
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There would be interest in 'taking a risk' on Benteke. From Europe if not the Premier League.
While we all moan about the squad, at the back of our minds is the 'good on paper' argument. How many times have I seen the 'man for man, I wouldn't swap any of our players for theirs' type arguments when we play Burnley, Hull....etc.
If we thought losing Southgate & Ehiogu to Middlesboro was insulting wait until there is speculation about losing Guzan to Hull or Clark to Bournemouth!
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I think a fair few would stay. That's assuming the club don't want to sell them. I'd fancy that Guzan and Delph would stay for a season in the little leagues as an example.
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With the need to find out the routes to places such as Brighton and Rotherham becoming less of a fear and more of a certainty, should the inevitable happen and Lambert relegates us, who out of the current squad will stick around?
Also, given what's left, is that enough and would we spend the stock £7million over the summer and would that make a difference?
Personally I think the following will go, some because their contract expires;
Vlaar
Cleverley
Guzan
Delph
Benteke
Sinclair
Given
Bent
There may be others and it is a case of how badly do we need to move others on.
I think Kozak would do well in the second division as he finds space. His game isn't about pace. Two touch Westwood would get more room and do ok, but we would need two wide men and two strikers as Gabby and Andi aren't up to it, while the midfield would be ok defensively if we retain Sanchez. Gil may well go, but if we kept him, he would murder that league.
Basically what we're left with isn't that bad, but I am hoping we would do a Newcastle and the fear is that Lambert would still be in charge.
Your veiled optimisim is getting me excited about which palyers I will be watching at Bolton, Huddersfiled, Rotherham ......
Reaches for the prozac!!!!
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How f##king depressing
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Vlaar
Cleverley
Benteke
Bent
Would all be gone for sure.
Sinclair might hang around if he feels wanted. He was happy enough to play at that level for Swansea. Delph would leave if there is some sort of clause in his new deal that lets him walk out if we're relegated like Demba Ba had at West Ham (which wouldn't be a huge surprise given how unexpected it was that he signed)
I'm not sure Cissokho would go. Where would he be going to? I can't imagine we've not put relegation clauses in his contract (so his wages would be fine) and he's not been so good as to think that loads of teams would want to snap him up.
I don't think Guzan would kick up a fuss about staying. Again, he's played at that level before, will be on manageable wages and I can't see any club coming in for him who would pay what we would ask for. He's probably not going to be on ManYoo's radar when de Gea goes to Madrid or anything.
Sanchez and Gil are two that I could imagine other clubs being interested in picking up based on what they have shown thus far.
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Spot on Dave.
Would love to keep Gil, and then you need a couple of players who know that league and have leadership skills. Rickie Lambert is ideal actually.
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I do not think the problem will be holding on to players, the problem will be getting rid.
We will be paying wages that will be unsustainable.
This is why PL teams struggle to get back up.
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I do not think the problem will be holding on to players, the problem will be getting rid.
We will be paying wages that will be unsustainable.
I'm not too worried about that. When we started the process of buying cheaper players I can't imagine that they didn't have relegation clauses in them.
Obviously we're still lumbered with the likes of Given and N'Zogbia from earlier times, but people like Okore, Kozak, Sanchez, Weimann, Westwood, Guzan etc are bound to see a wage drop if we were in the Championship.
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And very few are on big Premier League wages. There's probably only Given, Zog, Benteke, Delph and Gabby at the 50K mark.