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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: b23 on February 02, 2015, 01:01:43 AM
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AVFC v CFC
Villa Park. 7.2.15 @ 3 pm
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This is going to be fun, thank god i'm not going.....oh wait Costa's out so we might get something!
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It starts with a nil and ends with lots.
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Are we doing this pictorially? Great!
(http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/i-dont-give-a-shit-morgan-freeman-gif.jpg)
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Our father, .....
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Avfc v cfc 07.02 15. Ko every 10 minutes!
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0-4 .
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Boooooooooooooo!
Just practicing
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Great News (as they say in advertising campaigns) Diego Costa's not playing. Problem is Chelsea are and even worse so are we!.
Assuming Lambert's still there ,and of course he will be, we need to put in some kind of effort to,in some way, make up for the debacle of yesterday.
Im rapidly coming to the conclusion that Roy Keane called it right. The playing staff have had it too easy over the past few years. Fabian Delph
is always laughing and joking we are told. I wonder if was laughing and joking during Keane's training sessions? That would not have gone down well.
Grealish wasn't giving training his full attention.There may well be other examples. The club is being treated by the media as some kind of bad joke.The two people that got new contracts quite obviously should'nt have.
We will lose to Chelsea I accept that. What I cant accept in my many years of supporting the club is a complete lack of professionalism from those who matter.
Am I going down?. Yes I am. Why? Haven't got a clue!
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In days of yore throughout my Villa supporting life you could usually rely on the team to pick up an unlikely result during a run of tough games just when you weren't expecting it. I woke up this morning and considered that this would be a game when some one pre-match would make a case for us springing an upset. That person won't be me. Anything up to 2-0 will be a moral victory for us, 3-0 about par and anything above that I expect Lambert to be packing his bags by 8pm. In fact he should be clearing his desk anyway but the owner can't see it.
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They are going to batter us. Though as it is Mourinho and not say Ancelotti I suspect it will be 3-0 t them
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Who hasn't scored for Chelsea this year?
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I fancy a few for Torres in this one.
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0-3 (at least)
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Who hasn't scored for Chelsea this year?
Bobby Tambling
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I think we are still unbeaten at Villa Park to Mourinho's Chelsea teams, aren't we?
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Doesn't bear thinking about, but when you do it's a defeat by several.
The game that bothers me most is QPR at home, 18 April, you just know they are nailed on to break their duck that day.
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2-4
We will score, but still get stuffed.
After all, we can't get the goalless run record continue otherwise we'll run out of games to beat it in.
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I think we are still unbeaten at Villa Park to Mourinho's Chelsea teams, aren't we?
Are you inviting Lambert to break another record?
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Who hasn't scored for Chelsea this year?
Osgood and Dixon
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Aston Villa Nil, Chavski many, but we will be excellent.
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Villa's only hope is that the EPL will fix this match so that Citeh can get a bit closer to the top of the table.
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Who hasn't scored for Chelsea this year?
Their goalie
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Can we get Bradfords Parkinson in as coach for one game
He's a better coach than clueless
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0-3 to them. Moanhino will sit there like a silly little boy refusing to speak to anyone, or alternatively find something to complain about. He'll offer Lambert a handshake 10 minutes before the end and Lambert will accept but refuse to let go as the fans are being horrible to him and he needs a friend.
Poll?
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Us 0-Them 4.
Sorry and all that!
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Us 0-Them 4.
Sorry and all that!
Black and blue
And who knows which is which and who is who.
Up and down
And in the end it's only round and round. And round.
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Can't say I'm looking forward to this one. If we could get a 0-0 I'd be delighted, but I'm not sure how much comfort we can take from Diego Costa being injured, as the last team we played had a certain Alexis Sanchez injured.
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Massive improvement from yesterday, only 0-4
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First goal is always key. If you leak one early against these sides, then you're in big trouble.
I would bring Cissokho back in the defence.
Sit Westwood and Sanchez in front, with a much lower shape than the nonsense we saw against Arsenal. Delph in front, with Gil and Sinclair off Benteke. I think they've got more inteligence about them and they're more likely to get closer to him, which would be a massive help.
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0-8 defeat, to match December 2012.....
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another record broken 11-0 to chelski
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I'd take a dour 0-0 here and now
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Poll added. Us 0, them 1+.
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0-3.
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Chelsea are 3/10. Probably worth £100 for an easy £30 of free money
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Us 2 Them 1. The Whinging One will find plenty to bleat like a victim about as his winless record at VP continues. I can't stand these classless chav twats.
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shudders
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My mate says he will drive for this one so I can at least dull the pain with alcohol
Wife rolled her eyes when she heard and muttered "well we all know how you'll be coming back..."
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6-0 them. Lambo stays.
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Predicted a goal against Arsenal but won't make that mistake again.
Villa 0 Chelsea 3/4/5
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We'll be obliterated. Smashed into a kind of slime. They'll have to send a probe into space to scrape us off the moon. 0-17. I don't know what'll happen in the second half.
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Lambert realises we are not Barcelona after all, sticks 8 defenders on and attempts to hit em on the break.
Finishes 1-2 with us having one shot on goal. Lambert laments about how excellent we were.
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We'll be obliterated. Smashed into a kind of slime. They'll have to send a probe into space to scrape us off the moon. 0-17. I don't know what'll happen in the second half.
Maybe that's why PL now sounds like he is at the bottom of a deep well; he is generating ghastly new modes of expression using diabolical frequencies to communicate with space slime. Plankton to Plasma, are you receiving?
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The good news - Costa's out. The bad news - they've signed Cuadrado, who'll make his debut against us. Think we'll see a new definition of being played off the park on Saturday
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I reckon the Lions will win this.
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Lambert makes contact with unguent-like substance from Uranus. Challenges it to game of Scrabble. Gets fucking marmalised. Discovers there's a 'c' in excellent. Goes again.
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Lambert makes contact with unguent-like substance from Uranus. Challenges it to game of Scrabble. Gets fucking marmalised. Discovers there's a 'c' in excellent. Goes again.
**claps**
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An absolute tonking.
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Lose by 0-3.
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The only good thing about being shit is that we get a lot of Saturday 3pm kick offs.
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I've just bought five extra tickets for this one. I think that people are starting to realise that if they want to see Premier League football at Villa Park, they need to do it now.
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0-5
We will start with Gabby, Weimann and Benteke in the vain hope that something different is going to happen. Nothing different will happen. Remy (2) Oscar (2) and Drogba for them.
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The result is a forgone conclusion. The only thing not known at this stage is which player's shirt will Okore desperately want?
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We will get bummed.
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5-0 to the lottery chavs
At least
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We didn't expect much out of this fixture last season so you never know - hard to see anything other than a loss though
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It's a matter of by how many really.
I'll take a stab at 0-4
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Instead of having the usual three threads between now and after the game, why not just have three post match threads now ?
0-1 to 0-3, 0-4 to 0-6, or 0-7 plus.
We can each choose which result thread to pass comment in, get it all out the way over the next couple of days therefore allowing us to concentrate on the more drawable game at Hull next tuesday.
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I agree with what somebody has said elsewhere. It won't get ugly against Chelsea if we lose, unless its a real hammering. The half and half scarf wearers will abandon ship on 80 minutes if we're 5-0 down, having quenched their thirst for photographs of players taking corners.
So after that lot have tucked their iPads under their arms and skipped away, it could get quite heated. Failing that, we have Hull, where I don't think we will win and Stoke, where I don't think we will win either.
If ever there was a Bolton moment coming, then it's losing to Stoke at home.
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It's a matter of by how many really.
I'll take a stab at 0-4
You're obviously a born optimist, I'm thinking nearer double figures
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It's a matter of by how many really.
I'll take a stab at 0-4
Saving grace will be chavski will secure the game and just coast out 70 mins in 1st gear. 0-4 max for me.
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It's a matter of by how many really.
I'll take a stab at 0-4
You're obviously a born optimist, I'm thinking nearer double figures
Villa are most likely going to lose, so it might as well be a 0-10 complete meltdown
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Chelsea win, comfortably.
It's hard to put a number on how many they could score.
It's a shame it isn't so hard to guess how many we will score.
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I'd like us to win. There, I've said it.
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This was one of my favourite Villa moments of recent years.
Doug and his best shit-eating grin.
(http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/09_01/roman3DM0209_468x353.jpg)
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It's a matter of by how many really.
I'll take a stab at 0-4
You're obviously a born optimist, I'm thinking nearer double figures
Villa are most likely going to lose, so it might as well be a 0-10 complete meltdown
No. We need some confidence intact for the hull game which is far more important.
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While it would be a surprise me to see us win, it wouldn't be a total shock. It's what we do and Lambert would come out of it saying it was coming, along with the barrage of goals in our 1-0 win. Then again if Chelsea batter us it won't be a surprise at all as we all kind of expect it to happen.
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Remember Chelsea home last year, great win. Then the wheels came off.
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I really hope Vlaar is back for this, need him organising that back line. Cissokho should also come back in, I'd have Clark and Richardson both making way.
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Lambert goes for a 0 0
Six minutes chavski score
No plan B
0 5 chavski
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Oh and their new signing will score
When you need your first perm goal , no one better than villa .
Maybe the goalie too might get one
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It's nuts to think we are going to try and break our barren goalless run vs Chelsea. I hope Lambert has been watching Bradford City DVDs this week.
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Oh and their new signing will score
When you need your first perm goal , no one better than villa .
Maybe the goalie too might get one
I don't even know what their new signing looks like, let alone what hairstyle he has
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I really hope Vlaar is back for this, need him organising that back line. Cissokho should also come back in, I'd have Clark and Richardson both making way.
Lineups don't really matter with the twat we have in charge I'm afraid
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This was one of my favourite Villa moments of recent years.
Doug and his best shit-eating grin.
(http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/09_01/roman3DM0209_468x353.jpg)
Is that Peter withe behind thinking
"fuck , was that the score . I nodded off "
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Would go for:
Guzan
Hutton
2 of Vlaar / Okore /Clarke
Cissokho
Westwood
Sanchez
Gil
Delph
Sinclair
Weimann
Time to "rest" Benteke i'm afraid and give Weimann a chance in the centre
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Agree re Benteke, he needs to be dropped.
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Rest him for this and hopefully he comes back with a bang for the next two matches.
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I'm going for a defeat, yes how very daring of me, but I think we'll score 2 into the bargain.
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VP's not the chosen one's favourite destination. It sounds daft but I fancy us to sneak it. Lambert's got more lives than a cat.
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8-0 to them, again.
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I just looked at the Chelsea results for the season, thinking that they win, but don't particular batter teams.
We're going to get battered aren't we?
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These are shit. 2-0 Villa.
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Sit back, keep it tight and break with pace. We can get the win.
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Everyone knows how Mourinho loves his stifling, defensive tactics.
They're going to come here and park the bus.
Mind you, they wouldn't need to bring the actual bus to keep us out. They could manage that just bringing the Oyster card.
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The only good thing about being shit is that we get a lot of Saturday 3pm kick offs.
Indeed. Am I correct in saying our only Saturday 3pm kick offs have been Arsenal, Man. United, Liverpool and Chelsea.
All of those have been nailed on TV games pretty much over the last 15 years.
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Have seen Chelsea a couple of times lately, City and Newcastle. They somehow got four points from these games despite being really poor.
Would take a mind numbing 0-0 draw here. Surely we will have learned tactically from the last day, full backs to hold their positions and our defensive line should not start less than five yards inside our half. Would pick Westwood over Bacuna for the reason that he hold his position better.
Terry has been very poor lately so for that reason only Gabby's declining pace might still be of use. There isn't 90 mins in Gil or Sinclair so we should be looking for Benteke and Weimann to come in and make an impact.
---------------Guzan
Hutton, Vlaar, Clark, Cissokho
----Westwood, Sanchez----
--Gil--, ---Delph, -----Sinclair
----------Gabby-----------
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We are going to have limited possession. So i hope Sanchez has been practising his passing after last week. All out attack. We have nothing to lose. But a couple of goals would cheer everyone up ..........
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VP's not the chosen one's favourite destination. It sounds daft but I fancy us to sneak it. Lambert's got more lives than a cat.
I agree, it does sound daft. Mental in fact, but if there is one pattern we've seen a lot of in Lambert's time it is this:
*lose or fail to win lots of matches*
*get a result utterly out of the blue, in a fixture where you're expected to have no chance - Liverpool, for example*
*get given what is effectively a two month long holiday as you dine out on that one result. In that two months, go back to being utter shit again*
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Straight loss. I hope we play 5 at the back and shut up shop. Pray we can somehow avoid another humiliation.
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Us 0-4 them.
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We are going to get hammered again.
How much more do we have to take?
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We are going to get hammered again.
How much more do we have to take?
15 games. Then it's over.
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Painful.
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1-4
A John Terry own goal for us.
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Well, where to start:
The villa coaches tactics for the Chelsea game look like this:
(http://www.nufcblog.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/route-one-football-2.png)
Lambert likes the above, will call it the new system, internally the code for it is - "The first 2.5 years"- so wanders off to practise mumbling the word excellent in preparation for the post match interview:
"mmmmm excellent mmmmm go again mmmmm contract extension mmmm couldn't make it up mmmm" - Perfect!.
Below is what Paul came up with by himself - ahhhh bless him
(https://thisisnotadvertising.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/kid-drawing.jpg?w=590&h=440)
Looking for a second opinion on the coaches work, Lambert asks Randy for his input - he came up with this,
(http://www.wired.com/magazine/wp-content/images/18-02/ff_gamechanger_f.jpg)
Randy also tells him that to prove how much fun he's having with Villa, he's decided to add to his Villa tattoo by strategiclly shaping his anus to resemble our weekly goal tally - which is, well, excellent
The above could though all be described as a false narrative - especially if i was try to sound like an absolute cockend
In summary - Villa Randys hoop : Cockneys 4
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Guzan, Given - Hutton, Lowton, Okore, Clark, Cissokho, Richardson - Westwood, Sanchez - Benteke.
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0-14 it is then
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Guzan, Given - Hutton, Lowton, Okore, Clark, Cissokho, Richardson - Westwood, Sanchez - Benteke.
Not enough centre mids. Needs at least 3 more.
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Guzan, Given - Hutton, Lowton, Okore, Clark, Cissokho, Richardson - Westwood, Sanchez - Benteke.
Not enough centre mids. Needs at least 3 more.
One thing I expect is Lambert will be desperate to make sure we don't get another hiding. I can already hear Mourinho post match complaining how "difficult it is to play against teams that park the bus and don't want to play football."
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I love it when Mourinho moans about sides doing that, the hypocritical twat.
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I'm waiting for his pre-match press conference where he talks about Lambert needing more time and how he's doing a good job, whilst trying to keep a straight face.
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Any word on whether Vlaar will be back?
Id nearly give Okore and Clark another go even if he is.
Vlaar for one takes a couple of games to get match fit, this isnt the type of game for that. Could be a big boost to Okore and Clark to be given another chance.
This time with Cissokho back on the left and Hutton on strict orders not to get caught miles up the pitch. Also our defensive line needs to be at least ten yards deeper than against Arsenal with Westwood and Sanchez covering in front of them.
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I'm waiting for his pre-match press conference where he talks about Lambert needing more time and how he's doing a good job, whilst trying to keep a straight face.
He is going to absolutely love beating us. After the handshake war of words bollocks he can't wait to lord it over Lambert.
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1-5. OG for ours.
Or i might need 2 from the top and 4 small ones to get to our actual result.
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1-5. OG for ours.
Or i might need 2 from the top and 4 small ones to get to our actual result.
At least if we had Rachel Riley playing up front for us the game would be worth watching.
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go two wingers; Gil and Sinclair and have a go. We can't score less than 0 and maybe we'll score 1 or 2 ourselves.
Having said that it might a new record that Lambert is after so maybe -1 or -2 is possible
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Park the bus, go for damage limitation and rest main attackers. Focus on maximising points from Hull, Stoke, Newcastle etc & get to April with a strong chance of staying up.
Then again, Lambert will remain in charge. So, anyone know the best pubs for away fans in Bolton?
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Following last week's 5 -0 loss to Arsenal, Aston Villa boss Paul Lambert clearly decided that the only way to avoid another heavy defeat was to "park the bus" against Chelsea.
After today's 0 - 0 draw against his Premiership title favourites, Jose Mourinho bemoaned Aston Villa's lack of ambition in the game and the Chelsea boss was very tetchy in his post-match interview. "When I said before the game that I thought Aston Villa would park the bus against us, I didn't think that there would actually be a bus in front of the goal. It's ridiculous, the bus was playing Ramirez onside and our goal should never have been disallowed".
Paul Lambert's assessment of the match was very different. "I thought the lads were excellent and I was very pleased with the bus. It'll need a bit of work after the collision with John Terry but we think it'll be fine and I'm sure the groundsman can repair the pitch before the FA Cup game.
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I see Lambert is already making excuses for a cup defeat. If only he was as good at tactics as he is at defending himself.
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1-5. OG for ours.
Or i might need 2 from the top and 4 small ones to get to our actual result.
At least if we had Rachel Riley playing up front for us the game would be worth watching.
She is one fine specimen that woman.
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dead right. I'd love to be Pasha Kovelev's fingertips.
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Don't think it will be a hammering (don't know why just don't), but I do see a easy 0-2 Chelsea win. Then its onto the big one for us on Tuesday against HULL CITY! ;)
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We never lose at home to Mourinho and every year I am certain that record will come to an end.
Would be delighted with a draw (preferably one where we bloody score).
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The upset of upsets. Villa win.
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We never lose at home to Mourinho and every year I am certain that record will come to an end.
Would be delighted with a draw (preferably one where we bloody score).
This an entertaing 2-2 would suit me down to the ground. Trouble is Mourinho will set them up to do the ugly jobs effectively and then worry aobut actually playing football. Also, to score two goals against anyone would be a miracle for us, let alone the leaders.
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I just wonder if this would be a good match for starting Gabby. Our tactics should obviously be defend-and-break tactics, and though we all know how rubbish Gabby has been there is one thing he's as good at as anyone around, and that's kicking the ball fifty yards in front of him into space and chasing it down.
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I just wonder if this would be a good match for starting Gabby. Our tactics should obviously be defend-and-break tactics, and though we all know how rubbish Gabby has been there is one thing he's as good at as anyone around, and that's kicking the ball fifty yards in front of him into space and chasing it down.
Don't know if it would make much difference. If he was willing to play Weinmann either up front or just behind Benteke then I would suggest than he could still be more effective than Gabby, but because I don't see him doing that then maybe it is worth giving Gabby a go from the start. Of course who the strikers are partly depends on if we have proper wingers which we almost certainly won't.
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Don't think it will be a hammering (don't know why just don't), but I do see a easy 0-2 Chelsea win. Then its onto the big one for us on Tuesday against HULL CITY! ;)
Yes - how far we have fallen. Our 'Cup final' is against Hull City
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3-0 Chelsea win.
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Very surprised Swarbrick is allowed to Referee at VP against a London team again ao quick after his last performance.
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Fuck it. 1-0 to the Villa.
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Ron Vlaar and Joe Cole are both in contention for this weekend's clash with Chelsea.
Villa face the Blues on Saturday, with a 3pm kick-off.
Vlaar and Cole could both feature against Jose Mourinho's side if they come through their final training session on Friday.
Vlaar has been out for over a month with a knee problem picked up a quarter of an hour into the New Year's Day draw with Crystal Palace.
Cole was absent from the Bournemouth and Arsenal clashes with a hamstring issue.
Meanwhile, there was also a positive update on Philippe Senderos and Libor Kozak, with both continuing their rehab with running sessions.
Paul Lambert said: "Ron has trained this week. We will see how he is tomorrow.
"But you must remember than Ron hasn't played for a long time.
"However, if he comes through tomorrow, he will be in the squad.
"Joe has trained this week. We will see how he is tomorrow too.
"Those two lads are looking pretty good. They are getting there.
"Everyone else is not too bad."
Senderos has been out since November 2014 with a calf problem picked up on international duty with Switzerland.
On Senderos, he continued: "He has started running. Hopefully there's no adverse reaction."
Kozak has been battling hard to get back fit since he broke his leg in January 2014.
On Kozak, he added: "Libor is doing well. He is doing well with his rehab.
"He is out there running. But it's too early for him."
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Fuck it. 1-0 to the Villa.
I'll have an absynthe too please barman
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Ron Vlaar and Joe Cole are both in contention for this weekend's clash with Chelsea.
Villa face the Blues on Saturday, with a 3pm kick-off.
Vlaar and Cole could both feature against Jose Mourinho's side if they come through their final training session on Friday.
Vlaar has been out for over a month with a knee problem picked up a quarter of an hour into the New Year's Day draw with Crystal Palace.
Cole was absent from the Bournemouth and Arsenal clashes with a hamstring issue.
Meanwhile, there was also a positive update on Philippe Senderos and Libor Kozak, with both continuing their rehab with running sessions.
Paul Lambert said: "Ron has trained this week. We will see how he is tomorrow.
"But you must remember than Ron hasn't played for a long time.
"However, if he comes through tomorrow, he will be in the squad.
"Joe has trained this week. We will see how he is tomorrow too.
"Those two lads are looking pretty good. They are getting there.
"Everyone else is not too bad."
Senderos has been out since November 2014 with a calf problem picked up on international duty with Switzerland.
On Senderos, he continued: "He has started running. Hopefully there's no adverse reaction."
Kozak has been battling hard to get back fit since he broke his leg in January 2014.
On Kozak, he added: "Libor is doing well. He is doing well with his rehab.
"He is out there running. But it's too early for him."
Senderos seems to have been missing for years. I would imagine some of you lot will had got married,had kids and gone through unpleasant divorce proceedings in the meantime!
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Ah. Good news. Guzan, Given - Hutton, Lowton, Senderos, Okore, Vlaar, Clark, Cissokho, Richardson - Cole.
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What a sh*t starting XI!
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Ron Vlaar and Joe Cole are both in contention for this weekend's clash with Chelsea.
Villa face the Blues on Saturday, with a 3pm kick-off.
Vlaar and Cole could both feature against Jose Mourinho's side if they come through their final training session on Friday.
Vlaar has been out for over a month with a knee problem picked up a quarter of an hour into the New Year's Day draw with Crystal Palace.
Cole was absent from the Bournemouth and Arsenal clashes with a hamstring issue.
Meanwhile, there was also a positive update on Philippe Senderos and Libor Kozak, with both continuing their rehab with running sessions.
Paul Lambert said: "Ron has trained this week. We will see how he is tomorrow.
"But you must remember than Ron hasn't played for a long time.
"However, if he comes through tomorrow, he will be in the squad.
"Joe has trained this week. We will see how he is tomorrow too.
"Those two lads are looking pretty good. They are getting there.
"Everyone else is not too bad."
Senderos has been out since November 2014 with a calf problem picked up on international duty with Switzerland.
On Senderos, he continued: "He has started running. Hopefully there's no adverse reaction."
Kozak has been battling hard to get back fit since he broke his leg in January 2014.
On Kozak, he added: "Libor is doing well. He is doing well with his rehab.
"He is out there running. But it's too early for him."
Doesnt look like Vlaar will be starting based on that, in ahead of Baker on the bench it looks.
Cole will do well to make the bench ahead of the likes of Richardson and Cleverley.
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Given
Hutton
vlaar
baker
Clark
Cleverley
Gil
Delph
Westwood
Gabby
Benetke
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I might be mad, but 10/1 for a Villa win seems a bit long, especially when they're without Fabregas or Costa. It's basically the same team we beat last year. Might stick a fiver on it.
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Is a poll where almost 80% are predicting a Villa home defeat a H & V record ?
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Aston villa excellent chelsea 3
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Ever the optimist, 1-1.
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8(
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I predict we will batter them and Chico Hamilton will be arrested
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0-3.
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Everyone should wear white tomorrow for two reasons. The first is to remember the greatest night in our history. The second is because we have clearly waived the white flag for the game tomorrow, so we might as well let the team know that it's ok for them to give up. They probably won't even turn up to be fair.
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God is it time already to predict the clueless ones lot 0 lot against the special ones lot !!! 0-2 i am sorry to say
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1-1
I would go 3-5-2 with Benteke and Sinclair up front, Gil, Delph and Sanchez in the middle, Lowton right wing back, Richardson left, Vlaar, Clark Okore IF they are all fit.
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I reckon we be going Guzan Hutton Okore, Clark, Cissokho,Westwood,Delph,Cleverly,Richardson,Gabby and Weimann.....Ive heard that Benteke and Sanchez are not starting tomorrow...which his recent comments seem to imply...Baaaah
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Chelsea struggle against teams that play a high line and pressure them. Over to you Lambo
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I would play:
Guzan, Cissokho, Clark, Okore, Hutton, Sanchez and Delph as a holding pair, with Sinclair, Gil and Bacuna and Benteke beyond.
Sinclair and Bacuna to play wide and pressure their full backs, Gil to be the midfield link to get close to Benteke.
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According to BBC, Lambert is considering dropping Benteke, so who does he think he could replace him with and increase our chance of scoring?
Perhaps he really is selecting a team similar to the one shipscat posted earlier.
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I would play:
Guzan, Cissokho, Clark, Okore, Hutton, Sanchez and Delph as a holding pair, with Sinclair, Gil and Bacuna and Benteke beyond.
Sinclair and Bacuna to play wide and pressure their full backs, Gil to be the midfield link to get close to Benteke.
It's disturbing how much I am total agreement with you this week. For both me and thee.
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I would play:
Guzan, Cissokho, Clark, Okore, Hutton, Sanchez and Delph as a holding pair, with Sinclair, Gil and Bacuna and Benteke beyond.
Sinclair and Bacuna to play wide and pressure their full backs, Gil to be the midfield link to get close to Benteke.
Its the likely side alright, as much as I want Benteke dropped cant see Lambert doing it. Sinclair looked relatively bright in his cameo v Arsenal and I think he will be given the nod. Cant see him dropping Gil so looks like Gabby and Weimann will be on the bench.
Playing Bacuna would give Delph more licence to drive forward as he did to great effect in this game last year. Also would provide Hutton with decent cover as Bacuna did well against Bournemouth.
Huge team selection for Lambert, Chelsea without Costa or Fabregas is not the game to be going with three at the back. Ironically if Vlaar does come back in, I suspect Clark will be moved to left back. Chelsea's danger will come from those supporting Remy, (Hazard, Willian and Oscar most likely). Not the game for Westwood imo as Bacuna's extra mobility and strength will be preferrable to combat that trio.
If we were in any kind of form Id fancy us to take these. A win here could set us up nicely for a good finish to the season.
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0-4.
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0-2
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sadly a loss vs the Lottery winning Tory Blue wearing wankers...:(
UTV
the Doc
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I'd play a 4-1-4-1 formation, with the following team:
Guzan
Hutton Okore Clark Cissokho
Westwood
Gil Bacuna Delph Sinclair
Benteke
Bacuna isn't really good enough, but at least he will give us a bit of energy in midfield. Sanchez had a shocker against Arsenal and could probably do with being taken out of the starting line up for a couple of games.
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Why do people want Benteke dropped? He's our best player and one of the only ones who can create a goal from nothing. Instead of dropping him, why don't we focus on getting support around him for a change?
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Why do people want Benteke dropped? He's our best player and one of the only ones who can create a goal from nothing. Instead of dropping him, why don't we focus on getting support around him for a change?
*Round of applause*
One of the reasons he's petulantly looked pissed off is because he's spent 12 months, when fit being marked by 3 defenders whilst our other so called attackers are played really as midfielders no where near him. The only reason I can see him starting Gabby and Weimann would be to really be playing with no striker but not wanting to admit it. Look at all my attacking players on the pitch.
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Why do people want Benteke dropped? He's our best player and one of the only ones who can create a goal from nothing. Instead of dropping him, why don't we focus on getting support around him for a change?
Not disputing the fact that he is our most talented player but that shouldnt mean he is undroppable.
He is offering us absolutely nothing at the moment, no movement, absymal touch, not showing for the ball and getting narky with teammates etc
When we had loads of the ball in the first half against Arsenal, he hid pretty much.
Aside from the Man Utd and Spurs games, I cant remember a decent performance from him this season.
Sure the support has been non existent a lot of the time but he is also part of the problem at the moment imo.
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Something to cheer us all up:-
Tom Cleverley is set to make his 100th Premier League appearance.
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Seeing Benteke get out jumped / out muscled / out everythinged by such an average player as Liverpool's Lucas was all I needed to see to think that its time than he is dropped.
Stick Andi up front with Gil / Clive and try to attack Chelsea with pace. The Chelsea defence will have an easy afternoon against Benteke if his form/attitude is the same as it has been in recent games.
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Something to cheer us all up:-
Tom Cleverley is set to make his 100th Premier League appearance.
In Lambert's 100th match as Villa manager...
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Why do people want Benteke dropped? He's our best player and one of the only ones who can create a goal from nothing. Instead of dropping him, why don't we focus on getting support around him for a change?
He seems to have lost his way. I'm not one for thinking ineffective players are deliberately lazy, I think in the majority of cases it's a confidence issue. He was such a physical presence year 1, bulldozing his way through at times. It would make such a difference if he could get back to that way of playing and be more mobile too.
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With the exception of the very best on the planet no player should be undroppable. And even some of those are rotated now and again. Benteke might just need some time on the bench if it isn't working for him. He's a top quality player but even top players go through spells of poor form. We need to find ways to get him firing again and clearly in recent weeks, for whatever reason he has been well below par. If acouple of games as a sub or coming off the bench helps in his recovery and to discover his energy and desire then so be it.
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Horrible feeling we're going to get completely outplayed and we've got nothing in the tank to fluke a result sadly. 0-3 walk in the park.
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Right. I'm shelving my recent misery and getting positive for tomorrow. Let's do this Villa. Please. Nil all will do.
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Why do people want Benteke dropped? He's our best player and one of the only ones who can create a goal from nothing. Instead of dropping him, why don't we focus on getting support around him for a change?
Not disputing the fact that he is our most talented player but that shouldnt mean he is undroppable.
He is offering us absolutely nothing at the moment, no movement, absymal touch, not showing for the ball and getting narky with teammates etc
When we had loads of the ball in the first half against Arsenal, he hid pretty much.
Aside from the Man Utd and Spurs games, I cant remember a decent performance from him this season.
Sure the support has been non existent a lot of the time but he is also part of the problem at the moment imo.
He hasn't been his usual self recently, that's obvious, but it's highlighted more by the fact he's our only method of attack. What's plan B if Benteke is having an off day? Does it even exist?
I think the calls for dropping him are a tad over the top if I'm honest. Let's say Lambert does drop Benteke, we'll have Weimann playing the exact same role. What's the point? If anything, it should be Weimann next to Benteke. It's clear he needs a bit of help up there, even when he's on top form.
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Why do people want Benteke dropped? He's our best player and one of the only ones who can create a goal from nothing. Instead of dropping him, why don't we focus on getting support around him for a change?
Not disputing the fact that he is our most talented player but that shouldnt mean he is undroppable.
He is offering us absolutely nothing at the moment, no movement, absymal touch, not showing for the ball and getting narky with teammates etc
When we had loads of the ball in the first half against Arsenal, he hid pretty much.
Aside from the Man Utd and Spurs games, I cant remember a decent performance from him this season.
Sure the support has been non existent a lot of the time but he is also part of the problem at the moment imo.
He hasn't been his usual self recently, that's obvious, but it's highlighted more by the fact he's our only method of attack. What's plan B if Benteke is having an off day? Does it even exist?
I think the calls for dropping him are a tad over the top if I'm honest. Let's say Lambert does drop Benteke, we'll have Weimann playing the exact same role. What's the point? If anything, it should be Weimann next to Benteke. It's clear he needs a bit of help up there, even when he's on top form.
Unfortunately Weimann is our only option at this present time. There isn't anyone else that might possibly have any kind of success up front.
Weimann at least guarantees effort and committment even though he has very limited technical skills and he panics too often
But I would be surprised if Lambert drops Benteke.
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Don't think it will be a hammering (don't know why just don't), but I do see a easy 0-2 Chelsea win. Then its onto the big one for us on Tuesday against HULL CITY! ;)
Yes - how far we have fallen. Our 'Cup final' is against Hull City
To put some Lambert spin on things, their 'Cup final' was against Arsenal at Wembley last season.
Anyway, whatever the score tomorrow I reckon Lambert will say he thought we played really well for the first 65 minutes.
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Don't think it will be a hammering (don't know why just don't), but I do see a easy 0-2 Chelsea win. Then its onto the big one for us on Tuesday against HULL CITY! ;)
Yes - how far we have fallen. Our 'Cup final' is against Hull City
To put some Lambert spin on things, their 'Cup final' was against Arsenal at Wembley last season.
Anyway, whatever the score tomorrow I reckon Lambert will say he thought we played really well for the first 65 minutes.
or the first 6.5 minutes!
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Why do people want Benteke dropped? He's our best player and one of the only ones who can create a goal from nothing. Instead of dropping him, why don't we focus on getting support around him for a change?
Not disputing the fact that he is our most talented player but that shouldnt mean he is undroppable.
He is offering us absolutely nothing at the moment, no movement, absymal touch, not showing for the ball and getting narky with teammates etc
When we had loads of the ball in the first half against Arsenal, he hid pretty much.
Aside from the Man Utd and Spurs games, I cant remember a decent performance from him this season.
Sure the support has been non existent a lot of the time but he is also part of the problem at the moment imo.
He hasn't been his usual self recently, that's obvious, but it's highlighted more by the fact he's our only method of attack. What's plan B if Benteke is having an off day? Does it even exist?
I think the calls for dropping him are a tad over the top if I'm honest. Let's say Lambert does drop Benteke, we'll have Weimann playing the exact same role. What's the point? If anything, it should be Weimann next to Benteke. It's clear he needs a bit of help up there, even when he's on top form.
Unfortunately Weimann is our only option at this present time. There isn't anyone else that might possibly have any kind of success up front.
Weimann at least guarantees effort and committment even though he has very limited technical skills and he panics too often
But I would be surprised if Lambert drops Benteke.
Some guy played up top in the wins against Liverpool and Hull earlier in the season....
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We won't score and we'll lose. I think Chelsea might declare at 3-0.
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Something to cheer us all up:-
Tom Cleverley is set to make his 100th Premier League appearance.
In Lambert's 100th match as Villa manager...
Glorious. I assume they will conspire to break Mou's Villa Park duck for him to celebrate the anniversaries.
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I wouldn't object to Weimann up front (in his actual position for once) being supported by Gil behind him as a support striker. Maybe Sinclair and Gabby running the flanks with Delph running on from midfield. Weimann probably deserves a chance to actually play the striker role properly. It's making sure he's supported which is where we've been falling down for ages as a team I think.
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Actually, scratch all of that! We need to change how we play in midfield. Lambert could stick Messi up front but he wouldn't see the ball.
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It would be pointless launching balls up to benteke anyway as that is meat and drink to Terry Cahill Ivanovich etc. I'd play Weimann as a nr 9 and play into feet with width from Gil and Sinclair to get in behind the FB's.
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It would be pointless launching balls up to benteke anyway as that is meat and drink to Terry Cahill Ivanovich etc. I'd play Weimann as a nr 9 and play into feet with width from Gil and Sinclair to get in behind the FB's.
Agree 100%.
Unfortunately we don't seem able to pass it to any Villa player's feet, whether up front or out wide.
Passing it backwards, now you're talking!
F**k me, I'm depressed!
FUTV!
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Our passing out wide is perfect. To the left. To the right then backwards. To the left. To the right then backwards again. Repeat ad nauseum.
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Interestingly i spoke with 2 Chelsea fans today 1 from reading and 1 from Aylesbury (kind of tells you all you need to know about them) , they both reckon villa would win and they were being genuine . Most odd.
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More likely totally clueless.
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Interestingly i spoke with 2 Chelsea fans today 1 from reading and 1 from Aylesbury (kind of tells you all you need to know about them) , they both reckon villa would win and they were being genuine . Most odd.
I went to Aylesbury with Rovers for a semi-final, think it was the Bill Dellow in 85/86. Aylesbury didn't have a ground so it was played a Tring. We got chatting to some ICF blokes there, they obviously decided us 15 and 16 year olds weren't worth the bother. Decent chaps, but you just knew they had a nasty streak. It was a relief to just be shown the calling cards rather than being left one.
And there is my incredibly exciting Aylesbury story.
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It would be pointless launching balls up to benteke anyway as that is meat and drink to Terry Cahill Ivanovich etc. I'd play Weimann as a nr 9 and play into feet with width from Gil and Sinclair to get in behind the FB's.
If your going to play that game, play Benteke anyway. He's hardly crap with the ball at his feet. A titchy pair like Weimann and Gil would just get bullied. And as the rest of the team stand round like statues, they'd be scant support for any forward line anyway. We need to ditch this 'pass, then don't move' tactic.
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Knowing lambert he will drop benteke and draft gabby In and keep cleverly in the side and Weimann in his floaty wide midfield wilderness.
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Why do people want Benteke dropped? He's our best player and one of the only ones who can create a goal from nothing. Instead of dropping him, why don't we focus on getting support around him for a change?
Not disputing the fact that he is our most talented player but that shouldnt mean he is undroppable.
He is offering us absolutely nothing at the moment, no movement, absymal touch, not showing for the ball and getting narky with teammates etc
When we had loads of the ball in the first half against Arsenal, he hid pretty much.
Aside from the Man Utd and Spurs games, I cant remember a decent performance from him this season.
Well, plus he saved us from relegation with a goal of his own making at Palace.
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Why do people want Benteke dropped? He's our best player and one of the only ones who can create a goal from nothing. Instead of dropping him, why don't we focus on getting support around him for a change?
Not disputing the fact that he is our most talented player but that shouldnt mean he is undroppable.
He is offering us absolutely nothing at the moment, no movement, absymal touch, not showing for the ball and getting narky with teammates etc
When we had loads of the ball in the first half against Arsenal, he hid pretty much.
Aside from the Man Utd and Spurs games, I cant remember a decent performance from him this season.
Well, plus he saved us from relegation with a goal of his own making at Palace.
That statement seems a little premature
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Ever the optimist I think we'll win.
Off topic but it's just dawned on me that the worse we become the more I drink before and after the game. 6 or 7 pints before numbs my senses during the game so the reality of it all doesn't kick in and the same or more after ensures I don't watch any television when I eventually get home. Fortunately the day after is a blur with only a fleeting memory of the game. In the very distant past when we had a modicum of success and belief it was 2 or 3 before and a swift couple after to ensure I could watch any highlights.
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I just want us to have a go. There will be no disgrace in losing if we give them a game, that is all I ask and should be a prerequisite of any game we play. You never know we might just get a result which breeds confidence.
Get into'em
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Moanio has never won at Villa Park. A statistic I reckon he'll rectify tomorrow. But, you never know. We HAVE to score at some point. Might as well make it tomorrow.
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Right then. Last week I was accused of being somewhat the worse for wear with a two-none Villa prediction. I was, unfortunately, utterly sober. This week, however, I am not. Whilst my heart fears the worst, and my head finds few reasons to disagree, I cannot easily dismiss the influence that is my Emergency Football Mate; she's coming tomorrow. As an attendant pair, we've never lost. And I'm pretty sure there's never been fewer than three goals scored. So, despite what all logic tells me, I feel I have no choice other than to go 2-1, maybe even 3-1, us. Or two each at a miserably adequate push.
Come on, Villa. We know you're capable of better. Kick this month off in style.
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Interestingly i spoke with 2 Chelsea fans today 1 from reading and 1 from Aylesbury (kind of tells you all you need to know about them) , they both reckon villa would win and they were being genuine . Most odd.
I'm utterly amazed they even knew they were playing, even more so that they knew they were playing us. They are clearly more committed than the tossers who follow the scum down in my part of the world
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If we win I'll buy an half and half scarf !
Thinking about it I'd sooner us lose.
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Interestingly i spoke with 2 Chelsea fans today 1 from reading and 1 from Aylesbury (kind of tells you all you need to know about them) , they both reckon villa would win and they were being genuine . Most odd.
I'm utterly amazed they even knew they were playing, even more so that they knew they were playing us. They are clearly more committed than the tossers who follow the scum down in my part of the world
To be fair they both go regular to home games , the lad from reading is a ST holder who would have been up tomorrow but he's just stumped the thick end of £200 on league cup final seats so opted out. I found it odd that in two very separate conversations the two Chelsea fans thought we would win . They definitely see villa park as a bit of a bogey ground .
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Moanio has never won at Villa Park. A statistic I reckon he'll rectify tomorrow. But, you never know. We HAVE to score at some point. Might as well make it tomorrow.
Just read an interview with him seriously berating Man City for breaking FFP and not having a level playing field money wise. How on earth people take the bloke seriously is beyond me. His record is going to be enhanced by a premier league win this season no doubt, but with their resources it is to be expected so how great an achievement is it? I really hope we don't get beaten tomorrow by him and his cheating, thuggish side. No doubt they will get away with murder throughout as ever though.
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Your coat's from Matalan!
Fuck off Chelsea
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I am genuinely dreading today, I have completely lost hope.
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I've been wavering about going today but I think I will tough it out. The spate of car crime around B6 has tinged my mood.
10hours 12 mins without a goal and I don't think that includes time added on so it's probably in reality near on 11 hours. Jesus wept.
And I cannot see us scoring today . I just hope cleverly is dropped and possible benteke .
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According to BBC, Lambert is considering dropping Benteke, so who does he think he could replace him with and increase our chance of scoring?
Perhaps he really is selecting a team similar to the one shipscat posted earlier.
Is he considering dropping cleverley , he creates nothing . Maybe if he created something for benteke , then passing bloody sidewards or doing nothing.
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I've been wavering about going today but I think I will tough it out. The spate of car crime around B6 has tinged my mood.
10hours 12 mins without a goal and I don't think that includes time added on so it's probably in reality near on 11 hours. Jesus wept.
And I cannot see us scoring today . I just hope cleverly is dropped and possible benteke .
Drop Benteke and bring in who though?
Leave him in the team and instruct the team to get deep and whip in crosses. That's the only way we'll score.
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We are going to get well and truly dicked today. Arsenal will seem like a close game after today's result.
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Just now and again Lambert pulls something out of the bag. Could it be today?
I'm going for a 1-1 draw, and I'd be very happy with that as well.
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Weimann up front or Gabby ? Hardly inspiring is it. I'd much rather see cleverly out of the squad aswell than dropping benteke . This is another shop window game for CB so he may pull his finger out. I'd like a midfield of. Sanchez Delph Sinclair and Gil
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I just want us to have a go. There will be no disgrace in losing if we give them a game, that is all I ask and should be a prerequisite of any game we play. You never know we might just get a result which breeds confidence.
This, though I fear it will be more of the same. Not playing Cleverley would be a positive start.
I wonder how many goals it will take before the fans turn on Lambert at VP? If we lose 0-2 will everyone just shrug and walk off, or what if its 0-4?
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Just now and again Lambert pulls something out of the bag. Could it be today?
I'm going for a 1-1 draw, and I'd be very happy with that as well.
I wouldn't say he pulls something out of the bag. His scatter-gun approach on tactics gets a lucky hit every now and then.
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Just now and again Lambert pulls something out of the bag. Could it be today?
I'm going for a 1-1 draw, and I'd be very happy with that as well.
I wouldn't say he pulls something out of the bag. His scatter-gun approach on tactics gets a lucky hit every now and then.
Yeah that's what I meant. He just occasionally gets lucky just like every other shit manager out there. Let's hope it's today.
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Just now and again Lambert pulls something out of the bag. Could it be today?
I'm going for a 1-1 draw, and I'd be very happy with that as well.
I wouldn't say he pulls something out of the bag. His scatter-gun approach on tactics gets a lucky hit every now and then.
Yeah that's what I meant. He just occasionally gets lucky just like every other shit manager out there. Let's hope it's today.
It's a law of averages thing I guess. If you play often enough, you eventually score a goal
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Just now and again Lambert pulls something out of the bag. Could it be today?
I'm going for a 1-1 draw, and I'd be very happy with that as well.
I wouldn't say he pulls something out of the bag. His scatter-gun approach on tactics gets a lucky hit every now and then.
Yeah that's what I meant. He just occasionally gets lucky just like every other shit manager out there. Let's hope it's today.
It's a law of averages thing I guess. If you play often enough, you eventually score a goal
Well we'd better score today because going 7 leagues games without a goal is totally unnaceptable for a club the size of Aston Villa. Then again we say things like that all the time at Villa under Lerner and Lambert and we still get humiliated by them.
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Can't remember feeling so down before setting off for VP. Expecting a sound beating and very much doubt that Lambert will disappoint in that.
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Post 4.50pm the salient points will be-
Mourinho will waltz off with an easy 3 points having taken the p*ss.
Lambert will produce a carbon copy of his previously bewildering and unapologetic post game statements.
Lambert will get 8hrs kip Sunday evening and continue our development on the training (?) ground Monday morning.
The silence from Aston Villa FC will be deafening.
We will all be that bit closer to our graves.
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This is going to be fun, thank god i'm not going.....oh wait Costa's out so we might get something!
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b262/sdseagles/StephenA_zps27c9db32.png)
Yeah like when Arsenal was missing Sanchez...
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Please score. Go ahead and let in 7 or 8, but please score. :-\
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How low have things got? I have a season ticket in the Holte End (and have been a season ticket holder since they first introduced them to the standing Holte End in the 70s) but woke up this morning and for the first time couldn't be bothered to drive the 3 hours each way to watch us fail to score and get stuffed again. I would always travel in hope, if not expectation, but Mr Lambert has robbed me of even this level of anticipation.
I hope I'm proved wrong this afternoon and that we at least have a go and score a goal - even if we get stuffed - but somehow I feel we will pas the ball sideways, fail to put Chelsea under any presuure and still get stuffed :-\
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This is going to be fun, thank god i'm not going.....oh wait Costa's out so we might get something!
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b262/sdseagles/StephenA_zps27c9db32.png)
Yeah like when Arsenal was missing Sanchez...
I wasn't expecting to see a pic of Stephen A Smith on this thread. Who's next? Bomani Jones or Mike Wilbon?
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Can't remember feeling so down before setting off for VP. Expecting a sound beating and very much doubt that Lambert will disappoint in that.
He's written the game off and is focusing on hull on Tuesday night.
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Sanchez and benteke dropped
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Sanchez and Benteke benched ..Cleverly somehow still gets picked ..
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Cleverly has a clause in his contract obviously
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Guzan, Cissokho, Okore, Clark, Hutton, Delph, Fucking Cleverley, Westwood, Gil, Weimann, Gabby.
What does he see in Cleverley?
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Cleverly has a clause in his contract obviously
I think he must do. Bizarre.
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Cleverley? Again?
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Cleverly ............................ I GIVE UP . as soon as I see him or Nzogbia in the starting line up , I lose total interest .
in 48 years following this club, I have never ever felt so non plus about the game of football
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Paul Lambert in "please sack me" shocker!
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Changing match bet to 6,7 or 8 for Chelski :(