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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Gaztonniller on February 01, 2015, 03:49:26 PM
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Listening to the Arsenal match on T.S and Stan giving a few comments.
In short he said what we're all thinking.
- Villa's performance today - poor.
- If Benteke's not fit then don't play him.
- RL; needs to sell the club NOW!!; if you take on the responsibility of taking on a Grand dad of a football club like Villa then it's not just a case of pumping all your money into the club in two years then stopping.
- Sanchez; how is a player who looks so good at the world club suddenly unable to find team mates with passes.
- How embarrassed he is about what's happening with the team with 649 teams scoring more goals than villa.
He sounded well depressed.
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He is right but only stating what we already know.
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I want the club sold as well,so does Lerner.
But, saying it, doesn't make it happen.
If we were to organise a protest march tomorrow, demanding the club be sold, Lerner would probably take part..
Selling isn't the issue.
There has to be a buyer, there obviously isn't, and until one comes forward we are stuck with the invisible man.
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Lerner and the lack of a buyer is not the issue right now. The issue right now is an incompetent chancer is still in his post as manager.
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Sanchez had an awful game but he has played well prior to today. Not sure why he suddenly thought today was the day to do loads of long diagonal balls when he normally keeps it pretty simple.
Is Benteke not fit?
The no goals stat is shameful. Lambert has to go.
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Lerner and the lack of a buyer is not the issue right now. The issue right now is an incompetent chancer is still in his post as manager.
100% agree.
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Lerner and the lack of a buyer is not the issue right now. The issue right now is an incompetent chancer is still in his post as manager.
That is the point which seems to get missed a lot.
Lambert is not getting anything approaching the best out of what he has. Nowhere near, and it seems to be getting worse.
That team out there today looked like they do every fucking week - like they didn't know what they were supposed to be doing. Truly clueless.
That's a lack of management and leadership right from Lambert. He's failed on almost every front. Can't sort the coaching out (bullying, sacked right and left hand men, Keane putting up with it for a few months and then doing one), can't get the team playing.
He has moved on from "can't get the team winning" to "can't even get them scoring" now.
It is a bad joke which has gone on far too long.
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Is there any extra point in this thread or can it move to the Lambert one?
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Lerner and the lack of a buyer is not the issue right now. The issue right now is an incompetent chancer is still in his post as manager.
100% agree.
So do I. Also, one thing apparently can't be solved immediately but the other can.
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Randy need to sack Lambert and bring in on until end of season ie Brian Little/Peter Withe with Gordon Cowans as no 2. Just for example.
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Randy need to sack Lambert and bring in on until end of season ie Brian Little/Peter Withe with Gordon Cowans as no 2. Just for example.
As crazy as it sounds I'm actually all for this, although it bears a striking similarity to when Newcastle brought in Shearer? And we know how that turned out.
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Is there any extra point in this thread or can it move to the Lambert one?
I'd merge it.
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Says not 'say's'.
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Is there any extra point in this thread or can it move to the Lambert one?
if its to emphasise that Stanley was one of the biggest charlatans to ever be involved in AVFC in any capacity, then yes
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Listening to the Arsenal match on T.S and Stan giving a few comments.
In short he said what we're all thinking.
- Villa's performance today - poor....
With such insightful comments like that it's no wonder Stanloi is stratching out a living for that shithouse of a radio station.
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Is there any extra point in this thread or can it move to the Lambert one?
if its to emphasise that Stanley was one of the biggest charlatans to ever be involved in AVFC in any capacity, then yes
Takes one to know one?
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Is there any extra point in this thread or can it move to the Lambert one?
I think we need to spread our feelings over as many threads as possible to stop H&V exploding.
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Randy need to sack Lambert and bring in on until end of season ie Brian Little/Peter Withe with Gordon Cowans as no 2. Just for example.
As crazy as it sounds I'm actually all for this, although it bears a striking similarity to when Newcastle brought in Shearer? And we know how that turned out.
To be fair, you have an experienced cup winning manager of the club and two very experienced coaches there so nothing like Shearer except for the ex player bit.
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Lerner and the lack of a buyer is not the issue right now. The issue right now is an incompetent chancer is still in his post as manager.
Absolutely spot on. The biggest issue now is finding a manager who can keep us in the division until a new owner is found. The squad the current manager has at his disposal is more than capable of doing that, but he seems to be the single biggest problem at the club right now.
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I heard him criticising a Villa striker who looked like he couldn't be bothered and turned off.
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I don't know how much of it is down to his illness (in which case maybe he should take up a less stressful career) but Collymore strikes me as incredibly thin-skinned and unable to deal with disagreement.
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I don't know how much of it is down to his illness (in which case maybe he should take up a less stressful career) but Collymore strikes me as incredibly thin-skinned and unable to deal with disagreement.
He doesn't handle twitter very well sometimes, he should get off it. He's very good on TalkSport though.
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Randy need to sack Lambert and bring in on until end of season ie Brian Little/Peter Withe with Gordon Cowans as no 2. Just for example.
As crazy as it sounds I'm actually all for this, although it bears a striking similarity to when Newcastle brought in Shearer? And we know how that turned out.
To be fair, you have an experienced cup winning manager of the club and two very experienced coaches there so nothing like Shearer except for the ex player bit.
A good point. I wasn't comparing CVs. I was thinking the similarities were (as you mentioned) the ex-player(s), the return of the Messiah(s), too little too late (we're fast running out of time) and just how it reeks of desperation.
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Randy need to sack Lambert and bring in on until end of season ie Brian Little/Peter Withe with Gordon Cowans as no 2. Just for example.
As crazy as it sounds I'm actually all for this, although it bears a striking similarity to when Newcastle brought in Shearer? And we know how that turned out.
To be fair, you have an experienced cup winning manager of the club and two very experienced coaches there so nothing like Shearer except for the ex player bit.
A good point. I wasn't comparing CVs. I was thinking the similarities were (as you mentioned) the ex-player(s), the return of the Messiah(s), too little too late (we're fast running out of time) and just how it reeks of desperation.
To paraphrase the old saying, if it looks like desperation, feels like desperation and reeks of desperation....
As for Talksport, they have moved on from criticising us to undisguised pity.
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Randy need to sack Lambert and bring in on until end of season ie Brian Little/Peter Withe with Gordon Cowans as no 2. Just for example.
As crazy as it sounds I'm actually all for this, although it bears a striking similarity to when Newcastle brought in Shearer? And we know how that turned out.
To be fair, you have an experienced cup winning manager of the club and two very experienced coaches there so nothing like Shearer except for the ex player bit.
A good point. I wasn't comparing CVs. I was thinking the similarities were (as you mentioned) the ex-player(s), the return of the Messiah(s), too little too late (we're fast running out of time) and just how it reeks of desperation.
To paraphrase the old saying, if it looks like desperation, feels like desperation and reeks of desperation....
Thank you Damo70. You managed to perversely bring the first Villa related smile to my face today with that comment :-)
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Makes a change than all those media lambert mates that think he's doing great on a shoe string budget , Nicholas , Macanailly etc
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I don't know how much of it is down to his illness (in which case maybe he should take up a less stressful career) but Collymore strikes me as incredibly thin-skinned and unable to deal with disagreement.
He doesn't handle twitter very well sometimes, he should get off it. He's very good on TalkSport though.
Not entirely disagreeing but some of the stuff that has been said to him is truly horrible. He brings some of the stuff on himself by trying to be "honest" or "controversial" depending on your position on the subject at hand but there really are some massive morons out there.
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I don't know how much of it is down to his illness (in which case maybe he should take up a less stressful career) but Collymore strikes me as incredibly thin-skinned and unable to deal with disagreement.
It doesn't help that on twitter he insists on bringing up his political views which are.. lets be charitable.. rather adolescent in their formulation.
He really should stick to talking about football. I find him interesting when he does that
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Far too similar to the Shearer situation, but then we remind me of Newcastle from back then too.
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I don't know how much of it is down to his illness (in which case maybe he should take up a less stressful career) but Collymore strikes me as incredibly thin-skinned and unable to deal with disagreement.
He doesn't handle twitter very well sometimes, he should get off it. He's very good on TalkSport though.
Not entirely disagreeing but some of the stuff that has been said to him is truly horrible. He brings some of the stuff on himself by trying to be "honest" or "controversial" depending on your position on the subject at hand but there really are some massive morons out there.
Okay, you're right. How about this one then; I hope some truly horrible misfortune befalls Paul Lambert that doesn't impact his life irreparably, but means he'd have to stand down?
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Stan is a fan and we all say some daft things in the moment (or in this case third season straight of despair) next season will be better once we all accept we are going down because at present we truly deserve to (the club not the supporters). I can only see some sort of miracle happening to stop the inevitable drop that is coming like finding three teams worse than us - not likely, but next season we might score a few and win a few games in the Championship, I am sad and I hope we survive once again but lets face it, it is so shit going to VP this season, I don't look forward to the games, we lose consistently by playing shite directionless football and the manager is making some decent players look awful as a unit. I think Stan is spot on in venting on national radio how most of us are feeling. We are shocking, boring and lifeless right now with the exception of the FA cup there isn't much point in watching us, neutral or die hard, not much point at all. Its like watching a magnificent creature dying on the roadside and being powerless to save it.
I took part in the Liverpool protest but as only about 150 of us did it, it made no difference and I know the vast majority thought it was daft but if we had all done it then the message would have been very powerful indeed, staying away isn't the answer either, empty seats tell a tale but they don't send a message strong enough to stop us going down. Empty seats with all of us in and around the ground just not in the stands is far stronger, far stronger indeed. I'm stuck with a season ticket so I'll see you on Saturday for another good 20 minutes and the inevitable capitulation, looking forward to watching Hazard and analysing how Chelsea rip us apart, he is a truly great player in a truly great team, I remember when we were that good albeit very briefly.
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chin up things will look better in the morning
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Stan is a fan and we all say some daft things in the moment (or in this case third season straight of despair) next season will be better once we all accept we are going down because at present we truly deserve to...
Why should we accept we are going down? I don't accept it and I'm certainly not throwing in the towel with forty-five points left to play for.
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With 15 games to go and we aren't even in the bottom 3 why should we accept it?
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My real worry is that we are becoming like a Fulham type team, this is our fourth season in a row when we enter the last part of the season right in the mix of all the teams in trouble, we have managed to throw a run of games in the past to get us out of it, but eventually it will bite us on the arse and we will get caught.
Plus the fact that we seem to be getting worse every season. Just hope that there are 3 shittier teams than us, Hull and QPR for certain, but all the other teams are showing some fight.
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Collymore was just saying a few weeks ago that ownership needs to stick with Lambert..?!
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Stan is a fan and we all say some daft things in the moment (or in this case third season straight of despair) next season will be better once we all accept we are going down because at present we truly deserve to...
Why should we accept we are going down? I don't accept it and I'm certainly not throwing in the towel with forty-five points left to play for.
Agreed. We won't go down.
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Says not 'say's'.
Thanks paul.
37 years as an English teacher has given me a bit of a complex!
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Collymore was just saying a few weeks ago that ownership needs to stick with Lambert..?!
Looking back at the original post he doesn't appear to be saying sack Lambert, though I didn't hear his commentary. Is he saying Lambert should be going now?
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he seems to be in two minds.
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Collymore was just saying a few weeks ago that ownership needs to stick with Lambert..?!
And what has happened in the last few weeks?
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I don't think we'll go down, there will be 3 worse than us. Any 3 from Hull, Burnley, QPR and Leicester. It doesn't make the situation and the continued presence of Lambert as manager acceptable in any way however; very fuckin' far from it.
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My concern is all of those teams are at least giving themselves a chance in games. When you can score goals you at least give yourself a chance. When you don't score the best you can ever hope for is a 0-0 and recent evidence suggests that our defence, which has been quite resolute for the majority of the season is now starting to crack. As we go searching for goals we are leaving ourselves really exposed and teams will take advantage. This has to change soon because we are truly tempting fate thinking our position outside of the bottom three will last too much longer. If anyone thinks it is bad now wait until that happens.
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Sanchez had an awful game but he has played well prior to today. Not sure why he suddenly thought today was the day to do loads of long diagonal balls when he normally keeps it pretty simple.
Is Benteke not fit?
The no goals stat is shameful. Lambert has to go.
Things were getting so desparate than Sanchez was just to make things happen. It was wrong of him to resort to that tactic, but I kind of respect him for at least trying something different. That was the comment which Collymore was way off base on though. Since early December CS has been one of our better players. The rest of the stuff he said was pretty standard. Don't really rate him as a pundit to be fair.
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A Villa 'fan' was on a radio station yesterday listing the clubs that Christian Benteke would be an ideal fit for this summer.
Yes you've guessed it 5 weeks away from our fist chance to win silverware for years SVC wades in with his sze 12s.
I would say he should engage his brain before he opens his mouth,but that pre supposes there is a brain to engage.
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A Villa 'fan' was on a radio station yesterday listing the clubs that Christian Benteke would be an ideal fit for this summer.
Yes you've guessed it 5 weeks away from our fist chance to win silverware for years SVC wades in with his sze 12s.
I would say he should engage his brain before he opens his mouth,but that pre supposes there is a brain to engage.
Oh dear! Maybe it's a radio rating things? Maybe he's just talking about a subject he knows? Maybe he's had to take his Villa fan hat off and do his job? Maybe he thinks he's helping us by building up the hype and raising the potential transfer fee? Maybe he has heard Benteke is being sold? Maybe he's trying to boost the ratings by upsetting Villa fans and getting responses from the teams fans who need a striker? Who knows? Probably only Stan. Is their a link to the broadcast? (See the ratings thingy is working. Stan might be on to something here).
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I doubt that a radio presenter would have any influence on any of our players being sold or not sold. Hes just looking for something to talk about.
Nothing to see here.
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A Villa 'fan' was on a radio station yesterday listing the clubs that Christian Benteke would be an ideal fit for this summer.
Yes you've guessed it 5 weeks away from our fist chance to win silverware for years SVC wades in with his sze 12s.
I would say he should engage his brain before he opens his mouth,but that pre supposes there is a brain to engage.
Oh dear! Maybe it's a radio rating things? Maybe he's just talking about a subject he knows? Maybe he's had to take his Villa fan hat off and do his job? Maybe he thinks he's helping us by building up the hype and raising the potential transfer fee? Maybe he has heard Benteke is being sold? Maybe he's trying to boost the ratings by upsetting Villa fans and getting responses from the teams fans who need a striker? Who knows? Probably only Stan. Is their a link to the broadcast? (See the ratings thingy is working. Stan might be on to something here).
I'd like to hear the context of Stan's words. Either way nothing, surely, can be negotiated until a takeover has happened (assuming it does happen)? My guts are telling me Benteke will be the perfect fit for Villa after the takeover dust has settled. If we want to build a very good team quickly and beat FFP we will have to keep the likes of Tekkers signed up and build a top team around him/them.
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It's just him having a Cameron moment.
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He's still adamant that Delph will go in the Summer
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He's still adamant that Delph will go in the Summer
He may well do, but only for around £20mill. Benteke? £35mill. I'd like to keep both but, you could do some damage with that size of booty. Obviously, once Randy takes his cut!! Personally, I'd really like to see them both at Villa for a few years yet.
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I don't see anything other Stan soliciting conversation amongst his audience. I don't think he wants us to sell our best players but I'm sure by suggesting these are the type of players the CL sides should be looking at t generates discussion. It won't make one iota of difference to what ultimately happens and I certainly don't think Delph is leaving. And if Benteke goes it will be for a massive, massive fee.
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I don't think Delph wants to go but money talks to the club.
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A Villa 'fan' was on a radio station yesterday listing the clubs that Christian Benteke would be an ideal fit for this summer.
Yes you've guessed it 5 weeks away from our fist chance to win silverware for years SVC wades in with his sze 12s.
I would say he should engage his brain before he opens his mouth,but that pre supposes there is a brain to engage.
Is that a bad thing though? Surely Benteke would continue to up his game if he knew a big pay packet was on its way, in the form of a transfer.
And as much as Benteke is probably into his talk radio, I can't see him listening to Talksport on the way back from the training ground in his transit van.
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I like Stan but in his newspaper column a few weeks back he said he'd scored for Liverpool infront of the Holte End (did he?) and he scored for Villa infront of the Kop (did he balls) so he does like to bend the truth on occasions to get a bit more publicity.
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I like Stan but in his newspaper column a few weeks back he said he'd scored for Liverpool infront of the Holte End (did he?) and he scored for Villa infront of the Kop (did he balls) so he does like to bend the truth on occasions to get a bit more publicity.
He scored at the Holte End for them and fucking loved it. Anyone who remembers his goal celebration against Albion in front of their fans in the North Stand, that's what the cockwomble did to us on The Holte.
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I like Stan but in his newspaper column a few weeks back he said he'd scored for Liverpool infront of the Holte End (did he?) and he scored for Villa infront of the Kop (did he balls) so he does like to bend the truth on occasions to get a bit more publicity.
He scored at the Holte End for them and fucking loved it. Anyone who remembers his goal celebration against Albion in front of their fans in the North Stand, that's what the cockwomble did to us on The Holte.
Which season was that?
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I like Stan but in his newspaper column a few weeks back he said he'd scored for Liverpool infront of the Holte End (did he?) and he scored for Villa infront of the Kop (did he balls) so he does like to bend the truth on occasions to get a bit more publicity.
He scored at the Holte End for them and fucking loved it. Anyone who remembers his goal celebration against Albion in front of their fans in the North Stand, that's what the cockwomble did to us on The Holte.
Which season was that?
95/96 I think.
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Ah fair enough. I thought he only lasted a year at Liverpool for some reason and 96/97 they lost one nil at VP.
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Double checked and it was 95/96. Him and Fowler scored in a 2-0 win for them.
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Double checked and it was 95/96. Him and Fowler scored in a 2-0 win for them.
I remember that goal. Bloke next to me said. 'Piss off Collymore. You won't beat Bozzie from there.'
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We should pay no interest to what this total idiot has to say ......... he was the biggest waster our club has possibly ever seen - he is just publicity mad but when people take issue with him he plays the racist card - basically not a nice guy
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Double checked and it was 95/96. Him and Fowler scored in a 2-0 win for them.
I remember going to that game, twice!
It was originally scheduled for boxing day but was called off very close to kick off.
Was then played on a Wednesday night a few weeks later.
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Double checked and it was 95/96. Him and Fowler scored in a 2-0 win for them.
I remember going to that game, twice!
It was originally scheduled for boxing day but was called off very close to kick off.
Was then played on a Wednesday night a few weeks later.
Was that the Boxing Day game called off due to bad weather, which with the exception of B6, most of Birmingham wasn't affected by? Or am I imagining things? Just got it in my head that a game was called off for safety reasons that also coincided with some Ellis out protests. Could be age playing tricks on my memory.
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Double checked and it was 95/96. Him and Fowler scored in a 2-0 win for them.
I remember going to that game, twice!
It was originally scheduled for boxing day but was called off very close to kick off.
Was then played on a Wednesday night a few weeks later.
Was that the Boxing Day game called off due to bad weather, which with the exception of B6, most of Birmingham wasn't affected by? Or am I imagining things? Just got it in my head that a game was called off for safety reasons that also coincided with some Ellis out protests. Could be age playing tricks on my memory.
It was Boxing Day but it was off because of a frozen pitch. The match that was off conveniently when protests were due was at Christmas 2000, when it snowed a couple of days before we were due to play Leicester and it was postponed between the second and third flakes falling, two days before if I remember.
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Which year was it when the game was called off just as the Liverpool coaches started to arrive?
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Which year was it when the game was called off just as the Liverpool coaches started to arrive?
1995-96.
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Which year was it when the game was called off just as the Liverpool coaches started to arrive?
1995-96.
I remember being in the car with my dad, and driving through Kingsbury when I heard the game had been called off. Stanley did score two lovely goals for us in Gregory's first game against Liverpool. He went nuts in the celebrations. Might also been the game when he accused Steve Harkness of racial abuse.
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Which year was it when the game was called off just as the Liverpool coaches started to arrive?
1995-96.
I remember being in the car with my dad, and driving through Kingsbury when I heard the game had been called off. Stanley did score two lovely goals for us in Gregory's first game against Liverpool. He went nuts in the celebrations. Might also been the game when he accused Steve Harkness of racial abuse.
Yes it was. One of the 5 or so good ones he had for us.
Waste of space in a Villa shirt - never ever got the fans' love in for him
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I find Collymore's new-found 'love' for the club very hard to stomach given his pathetic performances in a Villa shirt.
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I find Collymore's new-found 'love' for the club very hard to stomach given his pathetic performances in a Villa shirt.
I can see why you feel like that but to be fair to Collymore I don't think his is a new-found love. Collymore is an intelligent man who wasn't well when he played for us. I'm pretty sure he wishes things had been different during that time. He's made plenty of mistakes (which I'm not about to defend) but in my opinion he's also done some really brave and commendable things like speaking about depression and highlighting and confronting racism. He's definitely a complex character and I can understand how he divides and provokes opinion. Now David Cameron on the other hand... I would say has an imaginary new-found love... (cue a 12 page thread) ;-)
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We should pay no interest to what this total idiot has to say ......... he was the biggest waster our club has possibly ever seen - he is just publicity mad but when people take issue with him he plays the racist card - basically not a nice guy
Any examples of him 'playing the racist card' before someone played it on him? Only I know someone who was called 'n***** bitch' by a neighbour and when she reported it was accused of 'playing the race card'.
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I like Stan but in his newspaper column a few weeks back he said he'd scored for Liverpool infront of the Holte End (did he?) and he scored for Villa infront of the Kop (did he balls) so he does like to bend the truth on occasions to get a bit more publicity.
He scored at the Holte End for them and fucking loved it. Anyone who remembers his goal celebration against Albion in front of their fans in the North Stand, that's what the cockwomble did to us on The Holte.
Which season was that?
95/96 I think.
Midweek game, 2-0 them.
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We should pay no interest to what this total idiot has to say ......... he was the biggest waster our club has possibly ever seen - he is just publicity mad but when people take issue with him he plays the racist card - basically not a nice guy
Any examples of him 'playing the racist card' before someone played it on him? Only I know someone who was called 'n***** bitch' by a neighbour and when she reported it was accused of 'playing the race card'.
Good question. SVC has done some reprehensible things which have been well documented but he has never "played the race card" as far I can see.
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I find Collymore's new-found 'love' for the club very hard to stomach given his pathetic performances in a Villa shirt.
I can see why you feel like that but to be fair to Collymore I don't think his is a new-found love. Collymore is an intelligent man who wasn't well when he played for us. I'm pretty sure he wishes things had been different during that time. He's made plenty of mistakes (which I'm not about to defend) but in my opinion he's also done some really brave and commendable things like speaking about depression and highlighting and confronting racism. He's definitely a complex character and I can understand how he divides and provokes opinion. Now David Cameron on the other hand... I would say has an imaginary new-found love... (cue a 12 page thread) ;-)
I agree with Diablo. Stan is and always has been a Villa fan. QED He is not a glory hunter!
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I find Collymore's new-found 'love' for the club very hard to stomach given his pathetic performances in a Villa shirt.
He's been a Villa fan all his life apparently, so how can that be judged as a "new found love"?
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We should pay no interest to what this total idiot has to say ......... he was the biggest waster our club has possibly ever seen - he is just publicity mad but when people take issue with him he plays the racist card - basically not a nice guy
Any examples of him 'playing the racist card' before someone played it on him? Only I know someone who was called 'n***** bitch' by a neighbour and when she reported it was accused of 'playing the race card'.
Good question. SVC has done some reprehensible things which have been well documented but he has never "played the race card" as far I can see.
As far as I recall in the numerous episodes of his "Twitter" rows he has placed the race card on numerous times ..........
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I'm no Collymore fan as folks may have been able to guess, but that may be because of some of the vile racist shit he's had said to him by some of the big brave users of Twitter.
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So reporting racial abuse is playing the racial card ? All I've seen Collymore do,is re-tweet and report the racist bile that has been aimed at him.
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This may be pedantic, but I don't think the Harkness incident was after the 4-2 win. I think it was after he was sent off during a 1-0 loss, and as he went he did a 'calm down, calm down' gesture to the Liverpool fans. I only remember because I'm sure Liverpool were in a white away kit, whereas they were in yellow during that win.
That 2-0 as well, didn't Collymore's goal for them come about as the result of a massive deflection or something? I have an idea it spannered up off Steve Staunton and wrongfooted Bosnich.
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I find Collymore's new-found 'love' for the club very hard to stomach given his pathetic performances in a Villa shirt.
He's been a Villa fan all his life apparently, so how can that be judged as a "new found love"?
I do think he goes a little bit over the top with it sometimes though. Listen to him to him on Tawkspawt and he seems to mention us every 10 minutes.
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This may be pedantic, but I don't think the Harkness incident was after the 4-2 win. I think it was after he was sent off during a 1-0 loss, and as he went he did a 'calm down, calm down' gesture to the Liverpool fans. I only remember because I'm sure Liverpool were in a white away kit, whereas they were in yellow during that win.
That 2-0 as well, didn't Collymore's goal for them come about as the result of a massive deflection or something? I have an idea it spannered up off Steve Staunton and wrongfooted Bosnich.
I don't think we beat them 4-2, we lost to them 4-2 in Nov '98 when Liverpool were in white.
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This may be pedantic, but I don't think the Harkness incident was after the 4-2 win. I think it was after he was sent off during a 1-0 loss, and as he went he did a 'calm down, calm down' gesture to the Liverpool fans. I only remember because I'm sure Liverpool were in a white away kit, whereas they were in yellow during that win.
That 2-0 as well, didn't Collymore's goal for them come about as the result of a massive deflection or something? I have an idea it spannered up off Steve Staunton and wrongfooted Bosnich.
I don't think we beat them 4-2, we lost to them 4-2 in Nov '98 when Liverpool were in white.
You're quite right, the win was 2-1. And there was an incident where Collymore tackled Harkness during that 4-2 loss and the latter's ligaments were damaged. Bloody hell, the old memory's frigged already.
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We should pay no interest to what this total idiot has to say ......... he was the biggest waster our club has possibly ever seen - he is just publicity mad but when people take issue with him he plays the racist card - basically not a nice guy
Any examples of him 'playing the racist card' before someone played it on him? Only I know someone who was called 'n***** bitch' by a neighbour and when she reported it was accused of 'playing the race card'.
Good question. SVC has done some reprehensible things which have been well documented but he has never "played the race card" as far I can see.
As far as I recall in the numerous episodes of his "Twitter" rows he has placed the race card on numerous times ..........
So that's a 'no' then.