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Heroes & Villains => Villa Memories => Topic started by: Dr Butler on January 16, 2015, 01:26:09 PM
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British Pathe is a brilliant source of old games :)
2-1 win Brian Godfrey and Lionel Martin scorers.
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The Doc
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Brilliant - thanks Doc.
There used to be a magazine called The Football League Review (or similar) in the programme. I remember the editor referring to that game and the 40k crowd saying that at 0-1 at half time it could have been a signal for slow handclaps and protests. Instead "Villa Park set up organised bedlam" and we went on to win. I have always remembered that phrase.
Loved the old managers seats in front of the Witton Lane (and will pass over the ropey editing showing the Holte erupting for the QPR goal.
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Great footage. That spikey fence in front of the Holte looks safe!
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I remember being at that game, fantastic atmosphere as was the replay vs Southampton in round 4.
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Lionel Martin. What a great name.....
(http://www.thefatcontroller.co.uk/portfolio/albums/userpics/Ron-Manager-isn_t-it.jpg)
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Lionel Martin. What a great name.....
(http://www.thefatcontroller.co.uk/portfolio/albums/userpics/Ron-Manager-isn_t-it.jpg)
Marvelous!! Lionel Martin had more skill in one of his toenails than Weimann has in his full body!
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Thanks for posting, that was great.
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What a great find!
Shame the Pathe editors showed the Holte End cheering after QPR scored!
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What a great find!
Shame the Pathe editors showed the Holte End cheering after QPR scored!
yeah I know.....:(
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The Doc
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I well remember that game. I used to get in the ground really early (too young for the boozer) and their fans tried to take the Holte. In fact we had to run on the pitch at one point.
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I well remember that game. I used to get in the ground really early (too young for the boozer) and their fans tried to take the Holte. In fact we had to run on the pitch at one point.
Chuckle chuckle chuckle.
Crisps and lemonade, sat out side the pub.
I was at that game too.
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Great to see that clip, i was at that game although i must admit i don't remember much about it other than the rangers fans being chased out of the Holte end. As for Lionel Martin, one of the most skilful players i have ever seen in a villa shirt,but somehow just seemed to lack something that would have made him a really good player
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Another thing about that game,two wingers in Rudge and Anderson ,three if you include Ferguson who played in midfield in that game. Oh them where the days when we had some width and scored goals.
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I think This is the game I went to with a short term Girlfriend.
We were both 13.
have no memory of the game other than Stanley Bowles or the Morgan Brothers were playing for QPR.
I remember the weather being crap, and did they have some fucker banging on a drum in the bottom of the Trinity.
It was my Girlfriends first (and probably last,with me anyway) trip to Villa Park
We stood in the Witton End as the Holte was for grownups.
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Lionel Martin was an extremely skilful player.
He had no pace but was very good in tight situations and although not very big, was excellent at holding up the ball.
Love the celebrations for the eaqualiser, Mike Ferguson punching the air and Dave Rudge throwing the ball into the crowd just where I was standing!
Such excitement for a 13 year old Villa fan, I was there in the Witton.
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Love the commentary for the winner..."a fantastic goal"!
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Here are some pages from the programme.
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Nice one, B23.
A shilling for the program!
I remember 5 bob would cover 4 bus tickets, 2 there and 2 back, entrance (1/6 for juniors), the program and 10 cigarettes.
That is the grand total of 25p.
The thing that really amazes me about back then is that by the time we got back to Navigation Street in town you could buy an early edition Sports Argus from the news stand and the match report was a line by line playback of all the important moments. Bear in mind those journalists had to phone in their copy from the ground, and they had the fucking things printed within an hour or less.
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Looking at the lineup in the programme, that must have been about the time that Willie Anderson decided that he'd prefer to be known as Billy Anderson. Always struck me as odd, even if fashion was changing and being known as Willie was now outmoded, no one was going to start calling him Billy. Nor have they to this day as far as I'm aware.
Likewise with Mick Wright when he suddenly changed to Michael Wright in the programme, sometime later. Always makes me smile to remember the chap close to us on the Holte, who used to bellow "Come on Mickey Wright" in a broad Irish accent, just at kick off at every home game.
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Looking at the lineup in the programme, that must have been about the time that Willie Anderson decided that he'd prefer to be known as Billy Anderson. Always struck me as odd, even if fashion was changing and being known as Willie was now outmoded, no one was going to start calling him Billy. Nor have they to this day as far as I'm aware.
Likewise with Mick Wright when he suddenly changed to Michael Wright in the programme, sometime later. Always makes me smile to remember the chap close to us on the Holte, who used to bellow "Come on Mickey Wright" in a broad Irish accent, just at kick off at every home game.
Yes I remember that was weird, Willie became Billy but no one ever called him Billy.
And Mick became Michael, though no one ever called him that either! I think Micky Wright wanted to be a bit posh, I remember him writing in the programme , I think it was the 'In a nutshell' feature, he cut a very dignified figure in a three piece suit, had a very attractive Swedish girlfriend and quoted his hobbies as 'antiques and fine wines', not the usual steak and chips and the bookies that most footballers of the time quoted as thier favourite meal and pastime!
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Micky Wright had nothing to do with football from the day he retired through injury, and did indeed become an antiques dealer then a classic car dealer.
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Looking at the lineup in the programme, that must have been about the time that Willie Anderson decided that he'd prefer to be known as Billy Anderson. Always struck me as odd, even if fashion was changing and being known as Willie was now outmoded, no one was going to start calling him Billy. Nor have they to this day as far as I'm aware.
Likewise with Mick Wright when he suddenly changed to Michael Wright in the programme, sometime later. Always makes me smile to remember the chap close to us on the Holte, who used to bellow "Come on Mickey Wright" in a broad Irish accent, just at kick off at every home game.
Yes I remember that was weird, Willie became Billy but no one ever called him Billy.
And Mick became Michael, though no one ever called him that either! I think Micky Wright wanted to be a bit posh, I remember him writing in the programme , I think it was the 'In a nutshell' feature, he cut a very dignified figure in a three piece suit, had a very attractive Swedish girlfriend and quoted his hobbies as 'antiques and fine wines', not the usual steak and chips and the bookies that most footballers of the time quoted as thier favourite meal and pastime!
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Micky Wright had nothing to do with football from the day he retired through injury, and did indeed become an antiques dealer then a classic car dealer.
Around 1979 he was manager of the Castle Bromwich branch of British Car Auctions and gave me my first ever full time job after finishing college.
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Nice one, B23.
A shilling for the program!
I remember 5 bob would cover 4 bus tickets, 2 there and 2 back, entrance (1/6 for juniors), the program and 10 cigarettes.
That is the grand total of 25p.
The thing that really amazes me about back then is that by the time we got back to Navigation Street in town you could buy an early edition Sports Argus from the news stand and the match report was a line by line playback of all the important moments. Bear in mind those journalists had to phone in their copy from the ground, and they had the fucking things printed within an hour or less.
When Dennis Shaw ruled the roost. We used to settle in The Grapes Hill St and the Argus seller would arrive about half way down the first pint!
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Looking at the lineup in the programme, that must have been about the time that Willie Anderson decided that he'd prefer to be known as Billy Anderson. Always struck me as odd, even if fashion was changing and being known as Willie was now outmoded, no one was going to start calling him Billy. Nor have they to this day as far as I'm aware.
Likewise with Mick Wright when he suddenly changed to Michael Wright in the programme, sometime later. Always makes me smile to remember the chap close to us on the Holte, who used to bellow "Come on Mickey Wright" in a broad Irish accent, just at kick off at every home game.
Yes I remember that was weird, Willie became Billy but no one ever called him Billy.
And Mick became Michael, though no one ever called him that either! I think Micky Wright wanted to be a bit posh, I remember him writing in the programme , I think it was the 'In a nutshell' feature, he cut a very dignified figure in a three piece suit, had a very attractive Swedish girlfriend and quoted his hobbies as 'antiques and fine wines', not the usual steak and chips and the bookies that most footballers of the time quoted as thier favourite meal and pastime!
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Micky Wright had nothing to do with football from the day he retired through injury, and did indeed become an antiques dealer then a classic car dealer.
Wasn't it also Charlie Aitkens passion - he used to own an antiques shop just east of the Acocks Green roundabout
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According to Wiki..Mick or Michael Wright was actually called John!..He was from Ellesmere Port to my amusement..there is no posh people from here.
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Another pitch invasion. Will we never learn?
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Another pitch invasion. Will we never learn?
I know.
The BBC reported it as "Carnage on the battlefields of Birmingham!" as witnessed by 16 year old future football expert Mark Lawrenson.
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Nice one, B23.
A shilling for the program!
I remember 5 bob would cover 4 bus tickets, 2 there and 2 back, entrance (1/6 for juniors), the program and 10 cigarettes.
That is the grand total of 25p.
The thing that really amazes me about back then is that by the time we got back to Navigation Street in town you could buy an early edition Sports Argus from the news stand and the match report was a line by line playback of all the important moments. Bear in mind those journalists had to phone in their copy from the ground, and they had the fucking things printed within an hour or less.
When Dennis Shaw ruled the roost. We used to settle in The Grapes Hill St and the Argus seller would arrive about half way down the first pint!
There would be a gaggle of assorted football fans waiting outside our local newsagents every Saturday evening, waiting for the Sports Argus van to arrive.
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Nice one, B23.
A shilling for the program!
I remember 5 bob would cover 4 bus tickets, 2 there and 2 back, entrance (1/6 for juniors), the program and 10 cigarettes.
That is the grand total of 25p.
The thing that really amazes me about back then is that by the time we got back to Navigation Street in town you could buy an early edition Sports Argus from the news stand and the match report was a line by line playback of all the important moments. Bear in mind those journalists had to phone in their copy from the ground, and they had the fucking things printed within an hour or less.
When Dennis Shaw ruled the roost. We used to settle in The Grapes Hill St and the Argus seller would arrive about half way down the first pint!
There would be a gaggle of assorted football fans waiting outside our local newsagents every Saturday evening, waiting for the Sports Argus van to arrive.
Ten past six every Saturday night,the van would draw up and the driver would pass out bundle of Argus's to the nearest random guy who would take them into the shop followed by the group who were waiting outside in exactly the order they arrived-never varied.
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Nice one, B23.
A shilling for the program!
I remember 5 bob would cover 4 bus tickets, 2 there and 2 back, entrance (1/6 for juniors), the program and 10 cigarettes.
That is the grand total of 25p.
The thing that really amazes me about back then is that by the time we got back to Navigation Street in town you could buy an early edition Sports Argus from the news stand and the match report was a line by line playback of all the important moments. Bear in mind those journalists had to phone in their copy from the ground, and they had the fucking things printed within an hour or less.
When Dennis Shaw ruled the roost. We used to settle in The Grapes Hill St and the Argus seller would arrive about half way down the first pint!
There would be a gaggle of assorted football fans waiting outside our local newsagents every Saturday evening, waiting for the Sports Argus van to arrive.
Ten past six every Saturday night,the van would draw up and the driver would pass out bundle of Argus's to the nearest random guy who would take them into the shop followed by the group who were waiting outside in exactly the order they arrived-never varied.
Exactly.
It would take me less than a minute to run down to the newsagents and then about ten minutes walking home whilst reading (and rereading) the Villa match report.
Then I'd read it all again when I got home.