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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: kippaxvilla2 on January 01, 2015, 08:24:58 PM
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First season.
Worst ever start.
Highest number of goals conceded.
Biggest ever PL (possibly league defeat).
Biggest number of goals conceded without reply (16).
Highest number of home defeats. (9I
First side to get beaten over two legs by a fourth tier side.
Second season.
Highest number of home defeats (10)
Lowest number of points in a PL season (surpassing McLeish two seasons earlier).
Third season so far.
Highest number of minutes without scoring a goal.
Highest number of English League managers leaving their jobs before Villa scored another goal (16).
Lowest goal tally after 20 games.
Lowest points tally in a calendar year?
Longest period without scoring in front of The Holte.
These are off the top of my head. And don't include cup exits to:
Millwall, Sheffield United, Leyton Orient.
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Failing to do the double over Palace today, I'd be interested to know the lowest number of doubles in a season?
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Don't forget Bradford.
Edit : ignore me
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Failing to do the double over Palace today, I'd be interested to know the lowest number of doubles in a season?
Well we only did one last year I think (Norwich). So I'd still be relatively confident of doing no worse than equalling that.
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Don't forget Bradford.
Edit : ignore me
See last entry in first season.
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That's some going to have achieved those records.
I wonder what the consensus would be on who was worse: Paul Lambert or Graham Turner?
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Can some clever person put all the 'best' unwanted records in a nice picture of Lambert looking puzzled and share it on every social media site?
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7 months since scoring more than 2 goals in a game (May 2014 v Hull City)
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That's some going to have achieved those records.
I wonder what the consensus would be on who was worse: Paul Lambert or Graham Turner?
Turner. Lambert didn't inherit a side that was Champions of Europe two years earlier.
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Yeah I'd go with that too pal
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That's some going to have achieved those records.
I wonder what the consensus would be on who was worse: Paul Lambert or Graham Turner?
Turner. Lambert didn't inherit a side that was Champions of Europe two years earlier.
Still hurts to think of WTF he did with that team.
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That's some going to have achieved those records.
I wonder what the consensus would be on who was worse: Paul Lambert or Graham Turner?
Turner. Lambert didn't inherit a side that was Champions of Europe two years earlier.
Still hurts to think of WTF he did with that team.
Or arguably, what Doug did to it.
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11 goals in last 23 competitive games. Another record low.
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Failing to do the double over Palace today, I'd be interested to know the lowest number of doubles in a season?
Pre-Premiership we didn't win away 75-76?
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Can't someone, be it Leighton or SaundersHeroes, paint the starker stats above on an orange bedsheet or whatever for the next few VP games and give the cameras optimum chance to pick it out so that we can take our dissatisfaction viral?
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Some I've just put together looking through statto.com
Start with one from today:
Goals scored in Premier League on first day of 2015 - 33
Goals scored by Aston Villa in the whole of 2014 - 33
Win Ratio:
P108 W32 D26 L50 = 29.63%
Records for bad runs:
AVFC longest ever run of league games without a clean sheet 26 - 15.12.2012 to 14.09.2013
AVFC joint record for longest ever run of home league games without a clean sheet, 16, 26.12.2012 to 26.10.2013 (equalling the worst, 16.02.1935 to 16.11.1935)
AVFC joint longest run of consecutive home league games in which we fail to score, 08.12.2012 to 12.01.2013 - 4
Getting spanked:
AVFC highest ever losing margin in an away league match: 8, Chelsea 8 Aston Villa 0, 23.12.2012
Home shitness:
2012-13 5 home wins, a record only worsened once since 1890-1 (122 years), which was 2011-12.
2013-14 6 home wins, a record only worsened in 2012-13 and 2011-12 in the last 122 years
2014-15 2 home wins from 10 played currently, on course for 4 wins.
Win and lose ratios:
Has managed us for 47 home league games, record W13 D12 L22 - win ratio = 26% lose ratio = 46%
Goal difference:
2012-13 and 2013-15 goal difference was -22, with exception of 86-7, our worst since 1975 (and maybe further, I don't have figures before that point)
Points tallies:
2012-13 finished with 41 points. Since three points for a win introduced in 1981, have done worse than that only three times.
2013-14 finished with 38 points. Since three points for a win introduced in 1981, have done worse than that only once.
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And we only won that one away against Middlesboro 2002/03 season.
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Home Shitness as a subject heading made me laugh.
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I assume 5 home wins in 1890 wouldnt have been in a 20 team league?
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I assume 5 home wins in 1890 wouldnt have been in a 20 team league?
12 teams
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So the trend line since McLeish under Lambert for Home wins is actually improving.....
4, 5 then 6...
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Can we have a "Shite Xmas's " heading ?
0-8
0-4
0-3
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So the trend line since McLeish under Lambert for Home wins is actually improving.....
4, 5 then 6...
2027-28 is going to be awesome
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Biggest drop in attendances must be in there too
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Biggest drop in attendances but be in there too
Good call, take today as an example
An 8k swing from last year
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So the trend line since McLeish under Lambert for Home wins is actually improving.....
4, 5 then 6...
2027-28 is going to be awesome
Building for the future!
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I will draft a letter to the CEO and include these stats. By any measure they are truly shocking, even allowing for limited transfer funds, young and hungry policies, enforced bomb squad fiascos and anything else you want to throw in as an even marginal defence.
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Gregory or Turner/McNeill will be contenders on the attendance front/ Gregory took us from 36K to 31K 2 years running.
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The only person who can sack Lambert is Lerner and he seems to be totally oblivious to what the supporters are saying, we are to blame as well because all it needed was a couple of half decent displays for many to change their minds and say that Lambert should be given more time, thats after three years of absolute dross.
I feel a bit sorry for McCleish now as i think he was a better manager than this clown, the only positive i can come up with for Lambert is that he seems to be able to spot a decent player but that is countered by he knows how to destroy decent players. The squad is decent the problem is the manager until he goes we are in trouble and the only way we will get him out is for the Holte end to turn big time.
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I will draft a letter to the CEO and include these stats. By any measure they are truly shocking, even allowing for limited transfer funds, young and hungry policies, enforced bomb squad fiascos and anything else you want to throw in as an even marginal defence.
I am still fairly pro Lambert but I would not use limited transfer funds as any kind of excuse. Lerner has many faults but he has consistently given lambert between 15 and 20 odd million a season and I expect him to do the same again this. A fair amount of Premier League teams would love our transfer budget.
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Just in case anyone forgot at any point reading this thread, the man was given a new 4 year contract a few months ago.
*cries*
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If there is any truth to the Tom Fox interview story in the post match thread then there really is no hope of getting him out barring relegation and even then I think they would view him as the 'man to bring us back up'.
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Someone asked for a banner, how about we just modify an existing one.
(http://s13.postimg.org/8crqx5kw7/asleep.png)
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Someone asked for a banner, how about we just modify an existing one.
(http://s13.postimg.org/8crqx5kw7/asleep.png)
Blatant photoshop. Too many fans.
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Someone asked for a banner, how about we just modify an existing one.
(http://s13.postimg.org/8crqx5kw7/asleep.png)
Blatant photoshop. Too many fans.
With eyes open.
Not wailing.
Not screaming in anguish.
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Never mind the biggest losing margin in an away league match, the 0-8 defeat on 23.12.12 is our record defeat in any game ever (outdoing 1-8 to Blackburn in about 1886), which still hurts and I've not forgiven
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I would freeze the stats until after Sunday - I suspect they are going to get even worse.
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Paul puts things into perspective.
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Fair?
(http://s2.postimg.org/hsmjsfvg9/notepad.jpg)
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lowest ever goals scored at the Holte End in a season,1 so far and it's fucking January!
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If there is any truth to the Tom Fox interview story in the post match thread then there really is no hope of getting him out barring relegation and even then I think they would view him as the 'man to bring us back up'.
There is truth in it as I heard TR say it.
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Someone asked for a banner, how about we just modify an existing one.
(http://s13.postimg.org/8crqx5kw7/asleep.png)
On that theme, I had an idea this afternoon that a good protest would be to change into my pyjamas at half time to show my level of boredom. Imagine that as a protest for the next game? The entire Holte End in pyjamas. Wee Willie Winkie nightcaps and all. The media would love that, it'd be a visual treat that the press couldn't avoid. Maybe someone could make a giant duvet with Lambert's dismal stats on it. And everyone could snore instead of boo. "Snooze till you're fired, we're going to snooze till you're fired..."
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That could work.
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That's some going to have achieved those records.
I wonder what the consensus would be on who was worse: Paul Lambert or Graham Turner?
Turner. Lambert didn't inherit a side that was Champions of Europe two years earlier.
Still hurts to think of WTF he did with that team.
Or arguably, what Doug did to it.
That's probably closer to it
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Most times last on MOTD
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Fair?
(http://s2.postimg.org/hsmjsfvg9/notepad.jpg)
Heart-breakingly.
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Most times last on MOTD
Nailed on cert >:(
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First season.
Worst ever start.
Highest number of goals conceded.
Biggest ever PL (possibly league defeat).
Biggest number of goals conceded without reply (16).
Highest number of home defeats. (9I
First side to get beaten over two legs by a fourth tier side.
Second season.
Highest number of home defeats (10)
Lowest number of points in a PL season (surpassing McLeish two seasons earlier).
Wrong Lambert equalled the lowest points in a PL season he didn't beat it. I'm not a Lambert fan I want him gone but please lets stick to the facts
Third season so far.
Highest number of minutes without scoring a goal.
Highest number of English League managers leaving their jobs before Villa scored another goal (16).
Lowest goal tally after 20 games.
Lowest points tally in a calendar year?
Longest period without scoring in front of The Holte.
These are off the top of my head. And don't include cup exits to:
Millwall, Sheffield United, Leyton Orient.
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Most times last on MOTD
Nailed on cert >:(
Wonder if we can take that form into The Football League Show ?? Our highlights would be on about 145am
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What's the record number of clean sheets in a season?
With the improved defence having clocked up a few so far, I wonder how far from the record we'll be in May?
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"First side to get beaten over two legs by a fourth tier side" is a bit of a meaningless "first", surely? I mean, a couple of rounds before that, we knocked out Man City so we could credit Lambert with the equally daft cup "first" of knocking out a three hundred million quid team away from home. All these "firsts" seem pretty arbitrary to me and lack a great deal of context.
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"First side to get beaten over two legs by a fourth tier side" is a bit of a meaningless "first", surely? I mean, a couple of rounds before that, we knocked out Man City so we could credit Lambert with the equally daft cup "first" of knocking out a three hundred million quid team away from home. All these "firsts" seem pretty arbitrary to me and lack a great deal of context.
No they demonstrate a shockingly bad set of statistics never 'achieved' before by any other Villa manager and the context is in today's day and age he has been given a remarkably large amount of time to do something about the likes of these and our shocking standard of football on the pitch. That he continues to spout crap about us playing well and creating loads of chances only serves to further demonstrate his deficiencies as a manager of Villa.
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Most times last on MOTD
Nailed on cert >:(
Didn't you know you save the best until....
Never mind.
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The most boring side ever....?
http://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/why-aston-villa-team-most-boring-premier-league-history
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"you broke my heart Fredo, you broke my heart"
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Worst ever interest-levels for me. Today's game will happily pass me by.
I know I'm not alone on this.
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Worst ever interest-levels for me. Today's game will happily pass me by.
I know I'm not alone on this.
I know how you feel as I didn't bother with the Palace game and had a wonderful day, Villa free. I really shouldn't be telling you this, should I? Saying that, I'm looking forward to the game today. Heaven knows why.
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To top it off he's making no more signings
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Don't forget the most "failure to control our players/fines " in a season,three in half a season so far and the most red cards in a season. Most players signed by a manager and then sent out on loan must be another record he has achieved
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Sussex County League Division Two side Seaford Town, the only team in the top 10 tiers of English football to score fewer goals than Aston Villa, have challenged the Premier League outfit to a match to decide the most boring team in the country. (The Sun - subscription required)
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Now that is funny.
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Sussex County League Division Two side Seaford Town, the only team in the top 10 tiers of English football to score fewer goals than Aston Villa, have challenged the Premier League outfit to a match to decide the most boring team in the country. (The Sun - subscription required)
No thanks. Banana skin.
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But they're not laughing at us. Etc.
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No, everyone is laughing WITH us. ;-).
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Sussex County League Division Two side Seaford Town, the only team in the top 10 tiers of English football to score fewer goals than Aston Villa, have challenged the Premier League outfit to a match to decide the most boring team in the country. (The Sun - subscription required)
No thanks. Banana skin.
Calling it a banana skin is a bit negative. I prefer the phrase 'Potential banana skin'. Sounds slightly more upbeat.
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It could be even more dull:
Sunderland account for 33% of all the 0-0 draws in the Premier League this season. They have had three more 0-0s this season than the whole of the Scottish Premier League
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It could be even more dull:
Sunderland account for 33% of all the 0-0 draws in the Premier League this season. They have had three more 0-0s this season than the whole of the Scottish Premier League
If we want to kill off the idea of a 39th game played abroad once and for all send Villa and Sunderland to be the guinea pigs.
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Quite bad on the discipline front too. Last season we recorded the highest (and our highest ever) number of yellow cards in the Premiership.
Another red card or two this season and we'll beat the record for that as well.
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Worst EVER league run without a goal.
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Yep.
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Worst ever manager.
We've got the worst goal difference in the league too.
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The one new record I wouldn't mind seeing is Lambert being the first manager to get the sack at half time next week.
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its crazy, we've been so shit for so long 5-0 doesn't even hurt that bad. I remember 5-0 at Blackburn (the spitting game), 5-1 vs Man City when David White scored all theirs. These games came along once or twice a season. we have them 4-5 times a year under Lambert.
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Worst EVER league run without a goal.
I keep reading stuff like that today, but surely the 6 straight defeats without scoring earlier in the season was worse?
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Worst EVER league run without a goal.
I keep reading stuff like that today, but surely the 6 straight defeats without scoring earlier in the season was worse?
We scored in the sixth one, 1-2 v Spurs. So he only equalled the record that time. Now he's broken it. In the same season. Incredible.
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Worst EVER league run without a goal.
I keep reading stuff like that today, but surely the 6 straight defeats without scoring earlier in the season was worse?
We scored in the sixth one, 1-2 v Spurs. So he only equalled the record that time. Now he's broken it. In the same season. Incredible.
Ah yes, ignore me.
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How have seaford town fared since their invitation?
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Well, when you put it that way...
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And even the others have still scored nearly or more than us at least. Impressive.
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Well, when you put it that way...
So much for the greatness of the prem league when 6 of the lowest scorers are in that league
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Well, when you put it that way...
Also, not only 92nd, but Albion in 91st have scored almost double our tally.
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Well, when you put it that way...
So much for the greatness of the prem league when 6 of the lowest scorers are in that league
Three of them won't be next year.
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Chelsea keeper scores hat trick against Villa.
New record on its way.
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On a positive note, we're still five games away from equalling the worst ever league run without scoring (Coventry 1919-20, Hartlepool, 1992-93). That's due against the Stripeys in March. I'm hoping we benefit from an own goal before then, more likely than any of our lot scoring.
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Fucking hell. That's all. I think it's time for bed as I'm getting more angry as the minute's pass.
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In our long and illustrious history we have NEVER gone 6 games without a goal.
It wouldn't be so bad if he were only breaking recent records, or since the prem (football) began.
But no, he is setting new records for shittness , that are the worst for over 140 years!!!
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Well, when you put it that way...
So much for the greatness of the prem league when 6 of the lowest scorers are in that league
Played less games though probably.
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In our long and illustrious history we have NEVER gone 6 games without a goal.
It wouldn't be so bad if he were only breaking recent records, or since the prem (football) began.
But no, he is setting new records for shittness , that are the worst for over 140 years!!!
If there was any pride left in the boardroom at Aston Villa they would have sacked Lambert ages ago. Instead he's stayed and festered and quite frankly humiliated us.
The records this man has set since he joined us is quite staggering. 11 league goals going into February is something I'd never envisaged at Villa. It's the kind of stuff you'd expect from a lower league club playing in front of a couple of thousand paying fans, but it's happening here at Aston Villa, a club that's spent just 12 seasons outside the top division in its entire history. It's totally unnaceptable.
Randy Lerner is to blame 100%. He has got away with murder over the last 5 seasons in which he has deliberately plunged us into decline with his cutbacks, penny pinching and quite diabolical managerial appointments.
The sooner he sells up and gets out the better, and take that incompetent buffoon Lambert with you as well.
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I don't usually pay much attention to records, because ultimately they're there to be broken. But what I do know is that if you get near to one of them, you're either playing exceptionally well or exceptionally shite.
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Dedications's what you need if you wanna be a RECORRRD BREEEAAAKKKEEEERRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!
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Fewest ever goals scored in a Premier League season was 20 by Derby. We still need another 9 to even equal that. Fancy our chances? Because at our current strike rate we won't make it.
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At least our next manager won't be as bad.
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To actually equal our longest ever number of games without scoring (5) and then to beat it in the same season (6) a few weeks later takes some doing even for this clueless idiot
Can anyone recall us having a
1/ Penalty this season
2/ A OG this season
I can not think of either to be honest,have we ever gone through a whole season without either?