Utter wank performance.
Lambert does it again.
People will blame Lambert, but today's real culprit is Richardson. I don't care how shite Lambert has been the last few months, if Richardson hadn't been so ball-achingly stupid, we wouldn't have lost this. At least our next match is easy.
pre Christmas do at my brother in law's tomorrow, who is an Albion fanatic. Awkward.
People will blame Lambert, but today's real culprit is Richardson. I don't care how shite Lambert has been the last few months, if Richardson hadn't been so ball-achingly stupid, we wouldn't have lost this. At least our next match is easy.This. Lambert has plenty of faults but I'm not going to blame him for Richardson's fuckwittery, he cost us the game.
We are the Kings of Flattering to Deceive. Today is indicative of the Lambert era. Never any real progress. Yes we lost a player early but there was no need to go into that defensive a shell.
No doubt we'll fucking go again
Kieran Richardson's stupidity has cost us big time. With 11 men we'd have strolled that. Having said that Beneteke had 2 chances to rescue a point near the end - possibly his worst game for us so far?
Why did it take til the last 10 minutes to decide, oh we better actually attack. Benteke was woeful.
We are the Kings of Flattering to Deceive. Today is indicative of the Lambert era. Never any real progress. Yes we lost a player early but there was no need to go into that defensive a shell.
No doubt we'll fucking go again
I disagree, for the rest of the first half and the first 5 minutes of the second we were still the better side. I don't believe for one second Lambert said "right lads, on the 50 minute mark just give up and defend". Midfield and attacking players need to take a lot of blame today.
I'm beginning to wonder if Gabby would get as many games at any other Premier League club except ourselves. A move might be best for all parties at the end of the season.
People will blame Lambert, but today's real culprit is Richardson. I don't care how shite Lambert has been the last few months, if Richardson hadn't been so ball-achingly stupid, we wouldn't have lost this. At least our next match is easy.
70 minutes with 10 men. I think you only get a point 1 in ten times doing that.I bet that one time is always against the Stripeys though
We got what we deserved - nothing.No the real culprit is quite patently the guy who got sent off and left us with ten men for an hour when we were dominating possession and looking comfortable
We can blame Richardson all we want but the real culprit is the idiot that sends his team out week after week, month after month, year after year without a fucking plan.
To lose to a really poor side like Albion, you need to be really, really shit. We unquestionably are.
Why does Gabby get away with this? Week after week, month after month he offers next to nothing.
I'd be at pains to even have him on the bench but we've recalled Robinson for a reason so give him a go.
People will blame Lambert, but today's real culprit is Richardson. I don't care how shite Lambert has been the last few months, if Richardson hadn't been so ball-achingly stupid, we wouldn't have lost this. At least our next match is easy.
Richardson is a bonehead but it doesn't give Lambert carte blanche to get his team to defend for 70 minutes. Good managers are able to adapt to bad situations.
I'm beginning to wonder if Gabby would get as many games at any other Premier League club except ourselves. A move might be best for all parties at the end of the season.
i thought we were shite
Lambert is clueless
We got what we deserved - nothing.Absolutely, totally agree.
We can blame Richardson all we want but the real culprit is the idiot that sends his team out week after week, month after month, year after year without a fucking plan.
To lose to a really poor side like Albion, you need to be really, really shit. We unquestionably are.
I'm not entirely convinced the red card cost us the points. We created very little with 11 men on the pitch but we'll never know now.
pre Christmas do at my brother in law's tomorrow, who is an Albion fanatic. Awkward.
We are the Kings of Flattering to Deceive. Today is indicative of the Lambert era. Never any real progress. Yes we lost a player early but there was no need to go into that defensive a shell.
No doubt we'll fucking go again
I disagree, for the rest of the first half and the first 5 minutes of the second we were still the better side. I don't believe for one second Lambert said "right lads, on the 50 minute mark just give up and defend". Midfield and attacking players need to take a lot of blame today.
People will blame Lambert, but today's real culprit is Richardson. I don't care how shite Lambert has been the last few months, if Richardson hadn't been so ball-achingly stupid, we wouldn't have lost this. At least our next match is easy.
Richardson is a bonehead but it doesn't give Lambert carte blanche to get his team to defend for 70 minutes. Good managers are able to adapt to bad situations.
We didn't defend for 70 minutes. For the rest of the first half we were still the better side.
I'm not entirely convinced the red card cost us the points. We created very little with 11 men on the pitch but we'll never know now.Well it's bloody difficult playing with 10 men at this level for 70 minutes so I would say it has cost us
I'm convinced with 11 men that we would have got at least a draw, and almost certainly the win. We were playing well and were way better than them. 66% possession at the time. Then Richardson makes a fucking stupid challenge and we are going to be struggling all game.
Blame also to Benteke and Gabby, I said pre-match that if they play well we'll win. Even with 10 men that would have been true. First half they were okay but in the second half they were both woeful. When we needed them holding the ball up, especially when we were under pressure they were useless.
i thought we were shite
Lambert is clueless
ha - no blame to Richardson who got sent off, or the players who once again could not follow basic principles
We got what we deserved - nothing.No the real culprit is quite patently the guy who got sent off and left us with ten men for an hour when we were dominating possession and looking comfortable
We can blame Richardson all we want but the real culprit is the idiot that sends his team out week after week, month after month, year after year without a fucking plan.
To lose to a really poor side like Albion, you need to be really, really shit. We unquestionably are.
People will blame Lambert, but today's real culprit is Richardson. I don't care how shite Lambert has been the last few months, if Richardson hadn't been so ball-achingly stupid, we wouldn't have lost this. At least our next match is easy.
Richardson is a bonehead but it doesn't give Lambert carte blanche to get his team to defend for 70 minutes. Good managers are able to adapt to bad situations.
Should've been more direct. It's all ok keeping the ball but it was in our own box and meant the midfield were always under pressure to keep possession in very deep areas. Should have played long ball and at least forced the issue just like the last 5 mins. Disappointing but at least we'll be closer to full strength next week and a win against that lot is long overdue.
Guzan 4, Hutton 5, Okore 7, Clark 8, Cissokho 6, Cleverley 5, Sanchez 8, Nzogbia 5, Richardson 0, Benteke 5, Gabby 5. Delph 7. Vlaar and Weimann werent really on long enough.Weimann was on long enough to pox up a straight forward pass and horribly miscontrol a ball to him which then went out of play. I'd give him a 2 (which is an improvement on the score i'd usually offer him. He's absolutely useless.)
Richardson was a completely idiot for that challenge, as soon as he did it I knew it was going to be a red card, what a plonker. He didn't lose us the game though that is ridiculous saying that i've seen many teams go down to 10 and not lose, ball watching and players not getting back is what led them to score.
West Midlands Police are an utter shower of fucking c***s. What a fucking disgrace. They hold people outside the station and then start battering people with tuncheons, not letting anybody in despite the crush getting worse. Fucking shower of twats.
Why do people think Grealish is the answer? Genuine question, is he really that good? Granted, he can't be any worse then N'Zogbia...
Why do people think Grealish is the answer? Genuine question, is he really that good? Granted, he can't be any worse then N'Zogbia...
No he isn't. He may become that good, but right now, now he is not there. Almost certainly a better option than Charles though as you note.
Why do people think Grealish is the answer? Genuine question, is he really that good? Granted, he can't be any worse then N'Zogbia...
I'm not entirely convinced the red card cost us the points. We created very little with 11 men on the pitch but we'll never know now.
We were playing well and easily the better side. I have no doubt if we'd had 11 men for longer than 18 minutes we'd have got a result today.
One positive is that Okore and Clark looked good again.
I'm not entirely convinced the red card cost us the points. We created very little with 11 men on the pitch but we'll never know now.
We were playing well and easily the better side. I have no doubt if we'd had 11 men for longer than 18 minutes we'd have got a result today.
Possibly a draw. We had more of the ball but their defence didn't look troubled until right at the end.
One positive is that Okore and Clark looked good again.
Aye. I hope he sticks with them next game.
One positive is that Okore and Clark looked good again.
I'm not entirely convinced the red card cost us the points. We created very little with 11 men on the pitch but we'll never know now.
We were playing well and easily the better side. I have no doubt if we'd had 11 men for longer than 18 minutes we'd have got a result today.
Possibly a draw. We had more of the ball but their defence didn't look troubled until right at the end.
I have a few names Dave and intend to make a strong complaint. I have never in all my years been concerned for my safety at the football, but I am not exaggerating somebody could have been killed in the crush. There were women and children lifted of their feet and blokes pressed against doors and railings. I don't even care we lost. Bladen should be ashamed that he was apart of the response to a crush with the Police battoning people.
I have a few names Dave and intend to make a strong complaint. I have never in all my years been concerned for my safety at the football, but I am not exaggerating somebody could have been killed in the crush. There were women and children lifted of their feet and blokes pressed against doors and railings. I don't even care we lost. Bladen should be ashamed that he was apart of the response to a crush with the Police battoning people.
One positive is that Okore and Clark looked good again.
Sanchez also looked good again.
I have a few names Dave and intend to make a strong complaint. I have never in all my years been concerned for my safety at the football, but I am not exaggerating somebody could have been killed in the crush. There were women and children lifted of their feet and blokes pressed against doors and railings. I don't even care we lost. Bladen should be ashamed that he was apart of the response to a crush with the Police battoning people.
Did you or anyone else manage to film it on your phones? If you saw anyone filming it get their name etc so as you can use the film as evidence if needed.
West Midlands Police are an utter shower of fucking c***s. What a fucking disgrace. They hold people outside the station and then start battering people with tuncheons, not letting anybody in despite the crush getting worse. Fucking shower of twats.Ads I have just ask them on twitter what the he'll they were playing at.
Cleverley won't be allowed to play will he?
Bugger. Next match line up? Guzan - Okore, Vlaar, Clark - Hutton, Sanchez, Cleverley, Delph, Cissokho - Gabby, Benteke ?? Looks good.
Cleverley won't be allowed to play will he?
Oh. 5 yellows?
The police were filming it. They stood around and created an incident. Kettling is the tactics they deployed.
The area outside the station is pretty small, but they shrank it by parking a van making fans huddle into the space near railings. They kept is there for ten minutes and then decided to filter more police in. The police then started pushing people back, as the queue turned into a crush so they battoned the people a the front, but the crush that hard started wasn't stopping, so they opened the doors and it got worse.
Hutton picked up his 5th yellow card today so that's him out of the United game
Cleverley won't be allowed to play will he?
Oh. 5 yellows?
He's on loan.
Cleverley won't be allowed to play will he?
Oh. 5 yellows?
He's on loan.
And he's on five yellows after today's booking.
So he's banned for a game he couldn't play in anyway.
I'm convinced with 11 men that we would have got at least a draw, and almost certainly the win. We were playing well and were way better than them. 66% possession at the time. Then Richardson makes a fucking stupid challenge and we are going to be struggling all game.
Blame also to Benteke and Gabby, I said pre-match that if they play well we'll win. Even with 10 men that would have been true. First half they were okay but in the second half they were both woeful. When we needed them holding the ball up, especially when we were under pressure they were useless.
Agreed on Gabby and Benteke second half, both gave away the ball constantly and we couldnt get out as a result. Sanchez had a very good game protecting our back four and used the ball in the main well. His touch gets him into trouble at times but thought he was our best player.
Thought we played well in the main, took a brainfart from Guzan to hand them a goal although two of our players watched Berahino put in the cross without closing him down. Fair play to the players, with a man down we still managed to create a great chance at the end for Benteke. Cant be missing those. They were poor really. Varela caused Hutton problems but aside from that they struggled to create openings against us with an extra man.
Guzan 4, Hutton 5, Okore 7, Clark 8, Cissokho 6, Cleverley 5, Sanchez 8, Nzogbia 5, Richardson -10, Benteke 5, Gabby 5. Delph 7. Vlaar and Weimann werent really on long enough.
Agree the short goal kicks to FB's virtually on the goal line who then dangerously invite pressure around our box is a very disturbing tactic. Time and time again today we invited trouble and pressure onto ourselves.Agreed this is mind bogglingly stupid tactic and it worries me that when Lambert said "we tried a few new things in training yesterday" last week this is what he was talking about. Nothing good came out of that move as all we managed to do was invite pressure upon ourselves and/or giving them a throw in halfway in our area. The move is so noddy that even if it works once no one is going to allow it to work twice.
Paul Lambert was frustrated with the derby loss to West Brom - but not upset by the way his team acquitted itself with 10 men.
Lambert was happy with the way his team began the game but then came the vital incident in the contest - the 22nd minute dismissal of Kieran Richardson.
Villa boss Lambert was gutted to see his team concede near the death but he was adamant that it wasn't one-way traffic - and his team were well in the contest - after the sending off.
He said: "We started the game great.
"Our possession of the ball was excellent, the movement of the team was great, we looked really good.
"It was a big compliment to the team because for 70-odd minutes you wouldn't have known we had 10 men.
"The last 15 minutes or so, we had chances, Christian had a couple of chances.
"There's a way to get beaten in football. I am disappointed to lose but I am not disappointed with the way we played."
On Richardson's red card, he continued: "I can see why the referee has sent Kieran off.
"Kieran is not a malicious footballer. He's over hit his second touch.
"In the modern day game - or the climate of the game - if you raise your studs I can see why the referee has given the card.
"But I think his enthusiasm to win the ball back has got him sent off."
On a positive note, Lambert was pleased to see Fabian Delph and Ron Vlaar back in action after spells on the sidelines.
On Delph, he said: "Truth be told, I didn't really want to use him.
"I was going to give him a few minutes, not 45.
"He's back a week earlier than scheduled but the great thing about Fabian is that he wants to play.
"I thought he was very good for his first game back in eight weeks.
"Ron is just back. Philippe will hopefully train next week. Ron is a big player as well. It's good to have his presence back. But Clark and Okore again were excellent."
Richardson cost you that - no need to make such a reckless tackle - if he hadn't you would have got a point, no doubting that.Liam I thought your 27 was very good not seen him before and AR leaving out Berhino was a real surprise. I agree with Gabby/Benteke comment as I mentioned in my post. What a shame we always discuss which team is more shit rather than more progressive!
Expected a lot more from Benteke and Agbonlahor who invited more pressure on you.
Delph looked good when he came on - he seemed to get you a foothold in the game.
Massive win for us though.
Liam I thought your 27 was very good not seen him before and AR leaving out Berhino was a real surprise. I agree with Gabby/Benteke comment as I mentioned in my post. What a shame we always discuss which team is more shit rather than more progressive!
One of the basics kids are taught is not to play balls across your own box. Time and time again we did this today.
Got to be honest and say we've been done by a better side today and a better run club. It's embarrassing what we've become, and to cap it all Gardner goes and gets the winner, he's loving it, laughing at us like the laughing stock we've become. It's no wonder we've 15000 empty seats every week, who would want to pay to go and watch those jokers turn up and do that, Richardson he must think he still plays for Sandwell.
Livid.
Lambert out. Lerner out. Krulak out.
UTV.
Sanchez made more passes than anyone on the pitch today, and had the highest success rate - 91%.
I didn't see the game, but looking at the stats for it, and having seen the last couple of games, we seem to be passing the ball around a lot more than usual. I wonder how much of that is due to Clark and Okore playing, and both being comfortable on the ball, rather than giving it the hoof all the time.
I looked at my phone towards the end of the first half and it said we'd had 70% possession. We finished the game with 51% over the 90 minutes, which is interesting, given we had ten men for most of it, and Albion are supposed to be a passing team.
Possession alone means nothing, but it is encouraging to see that in the last few games we've done much more of it.
Nobody wants to see endless passes back and forth in our own half, but it does look like maybe we've stumbled upon some sort of understanding of the basics of the game.
Got to be honest and say we've been done by a better side today and a better run club. It's embarrassing what we've become, and to cap it all Gardner goes and gets the winner, he's loving it, laughing at us like the laughing stock we've become. It's no wonder we've 15000 empty seats every week, who would want to pay to go and watch those jokers turn up and do that, Richardson he must think he still plays for Sandwell.
Livid.
Lambert out. Lerner out. Krulak out.
UTV.
Piss off, wanker.
Got to be honest and say we've been done by a better side today and a better run club. It's embarrassing what we've become, and to cap it all Gardner goes and gets the winner, he's loving it, laughing at us like the laughing stock we've become. It's no wonder we've 15000 empty seats every week, who would want to pay to go and watch those jokers turn up and do that, Richardson he must think he still plays for Sandwell.
Livid.
Lambert out. Lerner out. Krulak out.
UTV.
Sanchez made more passes than anyone on the pitch today, and had the highest success rate - 91%.
I didn't see the game, but looking at the stats for it, and having seen the last couple of games, we seem to be passing the ball around a lot more than usual. I wonder how much of that is due to Clark and Okore playing, and both being comfortable on the ball, rather than giving it the hoof all the time.
I looked at my phone towards the end of the first half and it said we'd had 70% possession. We finished the game with 51% over the 90 minutes, which is interesting, given we had ten men for most of it, and Albion are supposed to be a passing team.
Possession alone means nothing, but it is encouraging to see that in the last few games we've done much more of it.
Nobody wants to see endless passes back and forth in our own half, but it does look like maybe we've stumbled upon some sort of understanding of the basics of the game.
Watch out PWS trolls are about!Got to be honest and say we've been done by a better side today and a better run club. It's embarrassing what we've become, and to cap it all Gardner goes and gets the winner, he's loving it, laughing at us like the laughing stock we've become. It's no wonder we've 15000 empty seats every week, who would want to pay to go and watch those jokers turn up and do that, Richardson he must think he still plays for Sandwell.Are they fuck better. And so well run that every few months their fans want the manager/head coach out. So well run that they manage a massive 22K home fans for their big game at 3pm on a Saturday.
Livid.
Lambert out. Lerner out. Krulak out.
UTV.
Got to be honest and say we've been done by a better side today and a better run club. It's embarrassing what we've become, and to cap it all Gardner goes and gets the winner, he's loving it, laughing at us like the laughing stock we've become. It's no wonder we've 15000 empty seats every week, who would want to pay to go and watch those jokers turn up and do that, Richardson he must think he still plays for Sandwell.
Livid.
Lambert out. Lerner out. Krulak out.
UTV.
Piss off, wanker.
Got to be honest and say we've been done by a better side today and a better run club. It's embarrassing what we've become, and to cap it all Gardner goes and gets the winner, he's loving it, laughing at us like the laughing stock we've become. It's no wonder we've 15000 empty seats every week, who would want to pay to go and watch those jokers turn up and do that, Richardson he must think he still plays for Sandwell.
Livid.
Lambert out. Lerner out. Krulak out.
UTV.
Piss off, wanker.
I can see why you said that, but please take a breath Pelty.
True.
Thought it was odd how those that went spent all that time singing about them when we care so little.
True.
Thought it was odd how those that went spent all that time singing about them when we care so little.
True.
Thought it was odd how those that went spent all that time singing about them when we care so little.
Oh and if you're an Albion fan just tell us and stop pretending to be a Villa fan.
Collymore's getting it on Twitter, but is giving it back.
DID YOU REMEMBER TO PICKUP YOUR COMMEMORATIVE DVD ON THE WAY OUT?
Richardson cost you that - no need to make such a reckless tackle - if he hadn't you would have got a point, no doubting that.
Expected a lot more from Benteke and Agbonlahor who invited more pressure on you.
Delph looked good when he came on - he seemed to get you a foothold in the game.
Massive win for us though.
Collymore's getting it on Twitter, but is giving it back.
DID YOU REMEMBER TO PICKUP YOUR COMMEMORATIVE DVD ON THE WAY OUT?
Thing is I wouldn't be surprised if they did release it on DVD.
Collymore's getting it on Twitter, but is giving it back.
DID YOU REMEMBER TO PICKUP YOUR COMMEMORATIVE DVD ON THE WAY OUT?
Thing is I wouldn't be surprised if they did release it on DVD.
I'm sure lots will wait for the extended Blu-ray.
Collymore's getting it on Twitter, but is giving it back.
DID YOU REMEMBER TO PICKUP YOUR COMMEMORATIVE DVD ON THE WAY OUT?
Thing is I wouldn't be surprised if they did release it on DVD.
I'm sure lots will wait for the extended Blu-ray.
In Smethwick? They'll be lucky if it's Betamax.
What is this "Grats " thing?
Sounds like hipster speak for tugging the forelock.
Grats by the way. No complaints about the result here.
I'm pretty sure all 3 Albion wins over us in the PL have come after a player was sent off.
Had to check urban dictionary which throws up some interesting definitionsWhat is this "Grats " thing?
Sounds like hipster speak for tugging the forelock.
It is shorthand for the word "congratulations".
Hope that helps*
*which is shorthand for "as you well know you naughty scamp"
Blame also to Benteke and Gabby, I said pre-match that if they play well we'll win. Even with 10 men that would have been true. First half they were okay but in the second half they were both woeful. When we needed them holding the ball up, especially when we were under pressure they were useless.
Very unlike Gabby to be so flat / poor in a derby game. He usually makes an appearance for such fixtures.
This is a bit extreme. Where, how and when?Very unlike Gabby to be so flat / poor in a derby game. He usually makes an appearance for such fixtures.
Its hardly a surprised the players don't care when they're managed by a guy who shows nothing but contempt for the club and its fans.
Very unlike Gabby to be so flat / poor in a derby game. He usually makes an appearance for such fixtures.
Its hardly a surprised the players don't care when they're managed by a guy who shows nothing but contempt for the club and its fans.
Very unlike Gabby to be so flat / poor in a derby game. He usually makes an appearance for such fixtures.
Its hardly a surprised the players don't care when they're managed by a guy who shows nothing but contempt for the club and its fans.
I thought we looked in total control of the game until the sending off. We look confident and composed in possession and felt we'd win comfortably. Then the silly red card and we slowly retreated into our shells until we inevitably conceded. Frustrating.
I'm encouraged by Sanchez, Clark & Okore though.
Very unlike Gabby to be so flat / poor in a derby game. He usually makes an appearance for such fixtures.
Its hardly a surprised the players don't care when they're managed by a guy who shows nothing but contempt for the club and its fans.
Oh dear, I've read some shit on here in my time.
We created sweet FA with 11 v 11 by the way .I thought we looked in total control of the game until the sending off. We look confident and composed in possession and felt we'd win comfortably. Then the silly red card and we slowly retreated into our shells until we inevitably conceded. Frustrating.
I'm encouraged by Sanchez, Clark & Okore though.
Just how I saw it too.
When you are a man down you have to work harder, inevitably that means you tire a little quicker and at this level small margins make the difference.
We created sweet FA with 11 v 11 by the way .I thought we looked in total control of the game until the sending off. We look confident and composed in possession and felt we'd win comfortably. Then the silly red card and we slowly retreated into our shells until we inevitably conceded. Frustrating.
I'm encouraged by Sanchez, Clark & Okore though.
Just how I saw it too.
When you are a man down you have to work harder, inevitably that means you tire a little quicker and at this level small margins make the difference.
Very unlike Gabby to be so flat / poor in a derby game. He usually makes an appearance for such fixtures.
Its hardly a surprised the players don't care when they're managed by a guy who shows nothing but contempt for the club and its fans.
Very unlike Gabby to be so flat / poor in a derby game. He usually makes an appearance for such fixtures.
Its hardly a surprised the players don't care when they're managed by a guy who shows nothing but contempt for the club and its fans.
What on earth gives you that idea?
I am no Lambert fan, but that doesn't tally with anything I've seen or heard.
Like constantly telling us how brilliant the performances are and getting the hump when anyone dares to question him. He's as bad as O'Leary for it.complete cobblers.
The man is an out and out liar
However today Benteke was not good enough for players around him.
Other player I think was quite poor today was Guzan. He made a couple of good saves but he seems to be making a fair few mistakes this season. Definitely not playing to the standard he set a couple of years ago at present.
I'm pretty sure all 3 Albion wins over us in the PL have come after a player was sent off.
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Interesting fact PWS.
Since MON left we have struggled against the Albion. Bring him back for derbies.
Like constantly telling us how brilliant the performances are and getting the hump when anyone dares to question him. He's as bad as O'Leary for it.complete cobblers.
The man is an out and out liar
Like constantly telling us how brilliant the performances are and getting the hump when anyone dares to question him. He's as bad as O'Leary for it.complete cobblers.
The man is an out and out liar
Fair enough he's never slagged the club off but his excuses for yet another defeat are usually monumental bullshit. In that respect he is a liar.
Very unlike Gabby to be so flat / poor in a derby game. He usually makes an appearance for such fixtures.
Its hardly a surprised the players don't care when they're managed by a guy who shows nothing but contempt for the club and its fans.
Oh dear, I've read some shit on here in my time.
Like constantly telling us how brilliant the performances are and getting the hump when anyone dares to question him. He's as bad as O'Leary for it.complete cobblers.
The man is an out and out liar
Fair enough he's never slagged the club off but his excuses for yet another defeat are usually monumental bullshit. In that respect he is a liar.
In that case any losing manager who ever defended his team is a liar.
Like constantly telling us how brilliant the performances are and getting the hump when anyone dares to question him. He's as bad as O'Leary for it.complete cobblers.
The man is an out and out liar
Fair enough he's never slagged the club off but his excuses for yet another defeat are usually monumental bullshit. In that respect he is a liar.
I think the majority of reasonable people would reserve their hate for those that deserve it, not struggling football managers.Like constantly telling us how brilliant the performances are and getting the hump when anyone dares to question him. He's as bad as O'Leary for it.complete cobblers.
The man is an out and out liar
Fair enough he's never slagged the club off but his excuses for yet another defeat are usually monumental bullshit. In that respect he is a liar.
Exactly. He obviously thinks everythings fine, and that people are stupid enough to believe it, so in that respect he does treat the club with contempt
I don't think he realises how hated he is at Villa Park
Got to be honest and say we've been done by a better side today and a better run club. It's embarrassing what we've become, and to cap it all Gardner goes and gets the winner, he's loving it, laughing at us like the laughing stock we've become. It's no wonder we've 15000 empty seats every week, who would want to pay to go and watch those jokers turn up and do that, Richardson he must think he still plays for Sandwell.
Livid.
Lambert out. Lerner out. Krulak out.
UTV.
Very unlike Gabby to be so flat / poor in a derby game. He usually makes an appearance for such fixtures.
Its hardly a surprised the players don't care when they're managed by a guy who shows nothing but contempt for the club and its fans.
Oh dear, I've read some shit on here in my time.
Contempt is clearly too strong. Utter incompetence is perhaps more accurate. I don't know why people defend this manager over semantics when he's plainly just shit at his job no matter how you phrase it.
I think a lot of the negative reactions are because we lost to THEM. If we'd ended a 5 match unbeaten run with a 1-0 defeat when we played for 70 + minutes with ten men against, say, Stoke or Swansea I think the reaction would be a lot more muted.
Still gutted, mind.
Agreed. I am struggling to blame the manager here, as I don't think too many sides of our level would have done too much different with 10 men for so long. The front players were poor which didn't help, but although we sat back to a a degree, the pressure wasn't overwhelming.
Oh and I never really had a problem with Gardner, but after what he tweeted he really is a muppet.
Sanctimonious, it's almost like the word was invented to describe their support.
Earlier in week he was making out we are no longer the biggest club in the Midlands. Presumably apart from having the most supporters, the biggest stadium, the highest profile, the highest attendances, having won the most trophies and being in the highest league position, that is.Oh and I never really had a problem with Gardner, but after what he tweeted he really is a muppet.
Sadly, he just comes across as a bit of a tool.
Sanctimonious, it's almost like the word was invented to describe their support.
I can think of a shorter one, but this is a respectable website.
"Fuck the Albion!"
"Fuck the Albion!"
They're not worthy of such a catchy beat.
That's the thing if he hates Villa much then why did he sign for us as a youngster. He is a childish moron.
I'm not buying this we were the better side for 20 mins. Yes we had lots of the ball in our half around our box but we did nothing going forward whilst WBA had 2 very decent shots on Brad in that period.
Lamberts negative team selection and shocking set up and tactics cost us the game against a very poor WBA side who were there to be beaten.
I'm not buying this we were the better side for 20 mins. Yes we had lots of the ball in our half around our box but we did nothing going forward whilst WBA had 2 very decent shots on Brad in that period.
Lamberts negative team selection and shocking set up and tactics cost us the game against a very poor WBA side who were there to be beaten.
We were the better team for 20 minutes whether you 'buy it' or not, even the Albion fan who lives opposite me conceded that.
"Fuck the Albion!"
They're not worthy of such a catchy beat.
listening on AVTV, it was funny to hear Jack Woodward thinking it was their fans singing " up the albion"
And no, I didn't clap on 9 minutes. Quite a few in our end did though.
And no, I didn't clap on 9 minutes. Quite a few in our end did though.
It was disappointing to hear some people in our end actually booing during the 9th minute applause
Yet they pulled 2 good saves out of brad in that period and foster barely touched the ball ? I'm not following your logicI'm not buying this we were the better side for 20 mins. Yes we had lots of the ball in our half around our box but we did nothing going forward whilst WBA had 2 very decent shots on Brad in that period.
Lamberts negative team selection and shocking set up and tactics cost us the game against a very poor WBA side who were there to be beaten.
We were the better team for 20 minutes whether you 'buy it' or not, even the Albion fan who lives opposite me conceded that.
It did, it also lead into some very other loud songs. It even shut the gimp with the drum up.
Honestly, Palace and the Albion should be relegated two divisions for having drums.
It did, it also lead into some very other loud songs. It even shut the gimp with the drum up.
Honestly, Palace and the Albion should be relegated two divisions for having drums.
West Brom are irrelevant it would have hurt much more to lose to Blues like that
When is our luck going to turn, it is so frustrating. We get a few good results together, then have a bloke sent off in a game we surely would have won or drawn, now we lose him for three games, have another midfielder out injured, another player suspended for a game and another midfielder who can't play against his parent club. Just as things started to look up again.
We were lucky against Leicester when their player was sent off. His red card has been overturned.
Jores Okore and Carlos Sanchez were the best Villans on show when the figures were analysed post-match.
Okore was strong defensively while Sanchez marshalled the midfield in a tight derby loss to West Brom at The Hawthorns.
Alan Hutton, Tom Cleverley and Ciaran Clark also featured high up in the statistics.
Sanchez was No.1 for passes with 59 successful from 65 in total. Cleverley was No.4 with 42 successful from 49 in total.
Sanchez was No.8 for attacking third passes with nine successful from 10 in total.
Sanchez was No.3 for chances created with one. Sanchez was No.3 for ball recoveries with seven, alongside Cleverley.
Okore was No.1 for tackles with six successful from nine attempted. Hutton was No.2 with five successful from seven attempted. Sanchez was No.3 with four successful from four attempted.
Okore was No.2 for interceptions with four. Hutton was No.5 with two.
Hutton was No.1 for blocks with one, alongside Cleverley.
Okore was No.1 for clearances with nine successful from nine in total. Clark was No.2 with eight successful from eight in total. Hutton was No.4 with four successful from four in total.
Clark was No.1 for aerial duels with four successful from seven in total. Aly Cissokho was No.2 with three successful from four in total. Okore was No.3 with three successful from three in total, alongside Alan Hutton.
Charles N'Zogbia was No.1 for take-ons with two successful from four in total. Hutton was No.3 with two successful from three in total.
Fabian Delph was No.1 for shots with two in total and two on target.
Hutton to Christian Benteke was No.1 pass combination with 11.
As disappointed as I was yesterday ultimately was, the overall positive is the desire to play a lot more possession football. Up until the sending off we had the ball close to 60% of the time. Now, I'll temper that by the fact we really didn't create anything so clearly that is an area for improvement and development. However directionally this is a lot better in terms of style of play.
.....and Pat Murphy has never sounded so happy. Why has he got such a bug up his arse about our club?
As disappointed as I was yesterday ultimately was, the overall positive is the desire to play a lot more possession football. Up until the sending off we had the ball close to 60% of the time. Now, I'll temper that by the fact we really didn't create anything so clearly that is an area for improvement and development. However directionally this is a lot better in terms of style of play.
I am guessing that this what Lambert was getting at when he talked about a slight change to the way we played. It might take a while for all of them to be fully comfortable with a more patient approach but, despite what the 'get it forward' brigade say, it surely has to be the way to go if we want to progress.
As disappointed as I was yesterday ultimately was, the overall positive is the desire to play a lot more possession football. Up until the sending off we had the ball close to 60% of the time. Now, I'll temper that by the fact we really didn't create anything so clearly that is an area for improvement and development. However directionally this is a lot better in terms of style of play.
I am guessing that this what Lambert was getting at when he talked about a slight change to the way we played. It might take a while for all of them to be fully comfortable with a more patient approach but, despite what the 'get it forward' brigade say, it surely has to be the way to go if we want to progress.
We were lucky against Leicester when their player was sent off. His red card has been overturned.do you really think, at that stage, that it made any difference? They had a good go and still did not break through.
No efforts on goal when we were the better team doesn't really say that much though does it?
If he'd started Delph and Grealish or Weimann in lieu of nzogbia and Richardson we'd have taken the points IMHO . It was a statement of lack of intent to go for a win that team he picked.
Delph looked fresh as a daisy when he came on and more mobile than anyone else on the pitch. He's been training for the last 2 weeks . Personally i would have just played him from the off.
.....and Pat Murphy has never sounded so happy. Why has he got such a bug up his arse about our club?
He's been anti Villa for years, I don't know why, though some have said he was never welcome at VP even in Ellis' time. He;s just a knobber.
.....and Pat Murphy has never sounded so happy. Why has he got such a bug up his arse about our club?
He's been anti Villa for years, I don't know why, though some have said he was never welcome at VP even in Ellis' time. He;s just a knobber.
He always seemed a huge fan of Martin O'Neill, so if they're friendly, he could still resent us for that.
I also think N'Zogbia is being given a bit of rough treatment. I don't think he is nearly as abd as some make out and think it's more the case of he is occupying the spot some want Grealish to be in.
Nzogbia has had enough chances to show if he is capable or interested in contributing to this team.I also think N'Zogbia is being given a bit of rough treatment. I don't think he is nearly as abd as some make out and think it's more the case of he is occupying the spot some want Grealish to be in.
I am not sure with N'Zogbia whether he is just unfit or he is not interested. He is currently a passenger and the idea of Lambert's to try and play him into form has not worked. We need somebody else in the side that is going to give more.