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Title: Bright Future: 2014?
Post by: Villafirst on December 04, 2014, 07:01:17 PM
I was hoping for rather more after 8 years of Lerner's reign. I see Liverpool are expanding their stadium to 59,000. Mr Ellis got Planning permission to increase Villa Park's capacity up to about 51,000 in 2 phases. First phase was complete around 2001, I think. Phase 2 never happened, and probably never will under Mr Lerner. In fact, at the current rate, 2 sides of the stadium could be closed! I was hoping for big European nights by now with crowds over 50,000. We all bought into the Bright Future mantra; sadly it never happened. What were your expectations after 8 years?
Title: Re: Bright Future: 2014?
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on December 04, 2014, 07:05:56 PM
Dont laugh but I genuinely assumed my biggest problem was going to be figuring out how I could get to go see an away Champions League game with Villa.

It looked on the cards for a while there as well.

Sigh.
Title: Re: Bright Future: 2014?
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on December 04, 2014, 07:13:50 PM
I was determined I would not miss the European Cup Final this time round...but if I did there would be plenty of others to follow...
Title: Re: Bright Future: 2014?
Post by: Comrade Blitz on December 04, 2014, 07:21:49 PM
An FA Cup win.
Title: Re: Bright Future: 2014?
Post by: Legion on December 04, 2014, 08:18:24 PM
Not being perennial relegation strugglers.
Title: Re: Bright Future: 2014?
Post by: Richard E on December 04, 2014, 08:20:30 PM
Not much. Total world domination would have satisfied me.
Title: Re: Bright Future: 2014?
Post by: Legion on December 04, 2014, 08:22:31 PM
Back-to-back wins would be nice at the moment.
Title: Re: Bright Future: 2014?
Post by: DB on December 04, 2014, 08:23:38 PM
Hoping that we at least have a chance in all competitions. We are miles away from that. Partly due to the way the rich have got richer & Citeh have bought the throphies over passed few years... Partly due to Lerner's running of the club.
Title: Re: Bright Future: 2014?
Post by: silhillvilla on December 04, 2014, 08:25:38 PM
If the champions league is the holy grail then I think it's a massive anti climax. I think I'd rather be a steady PL side and win the domestic cups say once every 4 or 5 years .
Title: Re: Bright Future: 2014?
Post by: aj2k77 on December 04, 2014, 08:31:48 PM
I did think we'd crack the top 4 at least once. Never expected us to be worse than at anytime in my life since the late 80's. If he still gave a shit there would be no reason for us to be repeatedly struggling and say poor to watch, the £6m summer spend was pathetic.
Title: Re: Bright Future: 2014?
Post by: Richard E on December 04, 2014, 08:34:24 PM
Win the FA Cup, just the sodding once. That is all I ask from life.
Title: Re: Bright Future: 2014?
Post by: Legion on December 04, 2014, 08:35:36 PM
Win the FA Cup, just the sodding once. That is all I ask from life.

Once again, you mean. That is also my wish. The only trophy of note I have not seen us win.
Title: Re: Bright Future: 2014?
Post by: Richard E on December 04, 2014, 08:40:04 PM
Yes, sorry. Same here. If I'm still around when it happens I genuinely think I will burst into tears.
Title: Re: Bright Future: 2014?
Post by: brian green on December 04, 2014, 09:04:45 PM
It feels very, very good I can assure you. Especially when it is Man Ure getting the runners up medals.
Title: Re: Bright Future: 2014?
Post by: Charlie8182 on December 04, 2014, 09:14:21 PM
I was hoping for rather more after 8 years of Lerner's reign. I see Liverpool are expanding their stadium to 59,000. Mr Ellis got Planning permission to increase Villa Park's capacity up to about 51,000 in 2 phases. First phase was complete around 2001, I think. Phase 2 never happened, and probably never will under Mr Lerner. In fact, at the current rate, 2 sides of the stadium could be closed! I was hoping for big European nights by now with crowds over 50,000. We all bought into the Bright Future mantra; sadly it never happened. What were your expectations after 8 years?

I heard about Anfield being extended earlier, and while I still sometimes hear that Villa Park is a great stadium I can't help but feel that it will soon fall quite a way behind somewhat.
At the moment, Man Utd, Arsenal, Newcastle, Man City (to rise from 48 to 60K), Liverpool (to be extended) and Sunderland have bigger stadia, with Chelsea, Tottenham, West Ham and Everton likely to soon overtake us.
Title: Re: Bright Future: 2014?
Post by: curiousorange on December 04, 2014, 09:19:27 PM
When people ask me what I want for Christmas or my birthday, I always answer the same thing: Villa to win the FA Cup. I presumed i'd be able to ask for something else by now.
Title: Re: Bright Future: 2014?
Post by: claret and blue blood on December 04, 2014, 09:35:45 PM
My birthday is boxing day,I would settle for a win at Swansea this year as I think we have managed 1 win in the let 13 Boxing days!
Title: Re: Bright Future: 2014?
Post by: peter w on December 04, 2014, 09:56:42 PM
I expected us to be pushing hard for trophies.
Title: Re: Bright Future: 2014?
Post by: not3bad on December 05, 2014, 09:20:39 AM
The FA Cup, yeah. That would have been nice. Leagues and European trophies would have been great too of course.
Title: Re: Bright Future: 2014?
Post by: aj2k77 on December 05, 2014, 09:51:46 AM
I was hoping for rather more after 8 years of Lerner's reign. I see Liverpool are expanding their stadium to 59,000. Mr Ellis got Planning permission to increase Villa Park's capacity up to about 51,000 in 2 phases. First phase was complete around 2001, I think. Phase 2 never happened, and probably never will under Mr Lerner. In fact, at the current rate, 2 sides of the stadium could be closed! I was hoping for big European nights by now with crowds over 50,000. We all bought into the Bright Future mantra; sadly it never happened. What were your expectations after 8 years?

I heard about Anfield being extended earlier, and while I still sometimes hear that Villa Park is a great stadium I can't help but feel that it will soon fall quite a way behind somewhat.
At the moment, Man Utd, Arsenal, Newcastle, Man City (to rise from 48 to 60K), Liverpool (to be extended) and Sunderland have bigger stadia, with Chelsea, Tottenham, West Ham and Everton likely to soon overtake us.

They might be bigger but they're shit.

The Etihad is a bowl. Emirates just another corporate Wembley. The Theatre of ****** needs no explanation. Sunderland a cheap identikit job. Newcastles I like.

I can't imagine Spurs ground being anything other than another corporate bowl and West Hams ground is A too big for them and B  another boring oval.

I certainly don't envy any other teams grounds, there's still a character and soul to our place and if/when we ever expand it I hope we keep this in tact.
Title: Re: Bright Future: 2014?
Post by: DB on December 05, 2014, 10:59:48 AM
Goodison too. It will be a shame when they eventually move. But needs must for them I suppose.
Title: Re: Bright Future: 2014?
Post by: robbo1874 on December 05, 2014, 12:40:13 PM
I was hoping for rather more after 8 years of Lerner's reign. I see Liverpool are expanding their stadium to 59,000. Mr Ellis got Planning permission to increase Villa Park's capacity up to about 51,000 in 2 phases. First phase was complete around 2001, I think. Phase 2 never happened, and probably never will under Mr Lerner. In fact, at the current rate, 2 sides of the stadium could be closed! I was hoping for big European nights by now with crowds over 50,000. We all bought into the Bright Future mantra; sadly it never happened. What were your expectations after 8 years?

I heard about Anfield being extended earlier, and while I still sometimes hear that Villa Park is a great stadium I can't help but feel that it will soon fall quite a way behind somewhat.
At the moment, Man Utd, Arsenal, Newcastle, Man City (to rise from 48 to 60K), Liverpool (to be extended) and Sunderland have bigger stadia, with Chelsea, Tottenham, West Ham and Everton likely to soon overtake us.
don't necessarily confuse bigger with better. Our ground is too big for us at the moment as it is. When we have good seasons we consistently get close to filling it, but do so only once or twice A season. When we're doing badly, there are swathes of empty seats.
For  acupfinal villa could probably sellout Wembley, but villa park on any given weekend is usually nowhere near full. Why expand it? Now especially.
Title: Re: Bright Future: 2014?
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on December 05, 2014, 12:49:22 PM
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West Hams ground is A too big for them and B  another boring oval

Don't get me started on this. Local news this week reported that a further £180m is being spent on the Olympic Stadium, including fitting  a new roof, bringing the total cost of West Ham's new ground to £600m. West Ham's contribution to this is £15m ( which I guess they'll more than get back when the flog the Boleyn). Guess who paid the rest? It's a national scandal

I'd still rather have Villa Park.

edit - here's your Olympic legacy

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/oct/20/olympic-stadium-costs-soar-roof-west-ham

sorry, drifted off topic

Title: Re: Bright Future: 2014?
Post by: Diablo on December 05, 2014, 12:50:53 PM
Bright future? An attack minded team, that are attractive to watch and that win more than they lose.
Title: Re: Bright Future: 2014?
Post by: exigo on December 05, 2014, 12:58:17 PM
I'd settle for a Birmingham Senior Cup this season.

What? Oh.
Title: Re: Bright Future: 2014?
Post by: adrenachrome on December 05, 2014, 01:10:06 PM
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Title: Re: Bright Future: 2014?
Post by: Pat McMahon on December 05, 2014, 01:39:29 PM
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West Hams ground is A too big for them and B  another boring oval

Don't get me started on this. Local news this week reported that a further £180m is being spent on the Olympic Stadium, including fitting  a new roof, bringing the total cost of West Ham's new ground to £600m. West Ham's contribution to this is £15m ( which I guess they'll more than get back when the flog the Boleyn). Guess who paid the rest? It's a national scandal

I'd still rather have Villa Park.

edit - here's your Olympic legacy

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/oct/20/olympic-stadium-costs-soar-roof-west-ham

sorry, drifted off topic



I'm with Chico all the way on this. I saw a documentary on the construction of the Olympic stadium and I recall it was designed to leave a 25,000 seater stadium after the games, which would have been perfect for UK athletics.

Really makes me angry that Wham have got a stadium for peanuts.
Title: Re: Bright Future: 2014?
Post by: aj2k77 on December 05, 2014, 02:27:30 PM
Those shady wanker porno barons and the pug faced tart that hangs around with them finally got their tax payer funded, huge, free ground then.
Title: Re: Bright Future: 2014?
Post by: N'ZMAV on December 05, 2014, 02:30:26 PM
We can only dream about mid-table mediocrity.
Title: Re: Bright Future: 2014?
Post by: The Left Side on December 05, 2014, 03:25:27 PM
After seeing that we have been given number 3 in the 3rd round draw of the cup, maybe this could be a good omen. After all number 2 hasn't done us any good over the last 57 years. I was outraged at first at the FA but perhaps it could work in our favour... link below, sorry about the length but I am bone idle.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/30279875
Title: Re: Bright Future: 2014?
Post by: silhillvilla on December 05, 2014, 05:51:37 PM
25 v 3 then
Title: Re: Bright Future: 2014?
Post by: class-of-82 on December 05, 2014, 06:04:13 PM
I drive past ammers new ground into london every morning how the hell they going to turn that into a football ground is beyond me. it's like a giant scaffolding project with seats on the inside.
I was born in 59 so missed the 57 win as a lot of us did so please villa let me get the full set before I become a Holte ender in the sky
Title: Re: Bright Future: 2014?
Post by: Malandro on December 05, 2014, 06:11:15 PM
I didn't expect emile heskey
Title: Re: Bright Future: 2014?
Post by: silhillvilla on December 05, 2014, 06:12:20 PM
I didn't expect emile heskey
Doubt Bolton did either. Or eider gudjonsen
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