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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Dave on November 26, 2014, 10:27:59 AM
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Saturday 3pm.
Burnley winning their last two is probably the best thing that could have happened. Surely Burnley don't win three matches in a row?
Surprisingly comfortable 2-0 win. Richardson and Weimann to score.
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Lose. Unfortunately I cant imagine anything else these days
2-0, Ings to score both
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If we lose this one, then surely, surely the manager has got to go?
Hopefully we'll put in a performance for once. This lot are shite, and score almost as infrequently as we do. We need to show what we can do sometime soon, it might as well be this game.
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Burnley will us as one of their most winnable games so I can see them going at us right from the word go. I am pretty sure Villa are capable of catching them on the break and scoring at least once. Sadly that will be it, Lambert will probably think that's enough and we will defend defend defend until the inevitable equalizer/winner. Could be a draw, very possibly a defeat but one things for sure I cant see us winning. Again.
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I am pretty certain that the last time we won at Turf Moor was on September 12th 1936 when we beat them 2-1 with Hodgson and Broome the scorers.
Since then we have played them twenty eight times at Turf Moor and not won one, is this our bogey side or what?
Has I believe in horses for courses best we can hope for is a scoreless draw.
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We've won a couple of cup games against them at Villa Park plus I believe we beat them 5-2 at home in their first PL season, Downing scored a couple I think. We drew the away game with a Heskey goal. A lot of snow that day if I remember rightly.
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We've won a couple of cup games against them at Villa Park plus I believe we beat them 5-2 at home in their first PL season, Downing scored a couple I think.
My memory of that game is that we were utterly mediocre apart from a ten minute spell early in the second half when we rattled in three goals. And didn't really have to get out of first gear for the rest of the match.
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Unfortunately our record at Turf Moor is not good!
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0-0. Two teams who don't score many. Two teams who wont want to lose it. Awful on the eye and undoubtedly last on MOTD.
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Given our average of one shot on target per game, it seems unlikely we can win so a 0-0 draw for me.
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Them 1 Us 1
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A draw and 3 points from the last 27.
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Burnley have scored more goals than us, but there again so has every other team from the Prem right down to the Conference South (although, to be fair, teams in the Conference South have played about 5 more games than us). Until Benteke comes back we won't score a fat lot more either. They'll have a real go at us, which Lambert will accommodate for them by playing two banks of 5 within a yard of the 18-yard line and hope for a lucky break. 1-1
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0-0. Two teams who don't score many. Two teams who wont want to lose it. Awful on the eye and undoubtedly last on MOTD.
nail, head. Okore, Hutton and Agbonlahor were our best players in the last game so one of them to go off injured or pick up a red card.
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Really really really want a win here but I just can't imagine anything other than a turgid 0-0 or 1-1. Come on boys let's put a performance in.
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This will be like an FA Cup 3rd Round match to Burnley - big (wounded) premier league scalp ready for the taking.
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Hope I'm wrong but I think we will lose 2-1.
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A third of the way through the season and a 12-pointer!
We will play our usual game and win 1-0
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I watched Burnley on Saturday vs Stoke - (my kids team were invited their to take penalties in front of the Boothen End at half time - my lads penalty below)
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Burnley were very good down the left hand side - and both goals came from their left sided player beating Bardsley - I am sure Hutton will be harder to beat.
After they scored their goals - they just shut up shop - the only real joy Stoke got was when Moses attacked the full back , instead of playing the ball back all the time.
The game is crying out for width - I would start Grealish on Saturday - but I doubt our football genius will do that.
If we score first - we will win.
0 - 0 it is then !
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This promises to be a great day out for those 4,000 faithful heading up there, or the most depressing mass gathering since the Heaven's Gate cult knees up of '97.
I think we'll get a win, 2-1, Gabby with the winner.
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Burnley are not good enough to win three on the spin. Our defence looked half decent on Monday. We can't keep losing forever. We will win this one. 1-0 to the Lions!!
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Stats:-
We have not won at Burnley since 1936. Our record since then is...
P 23 W 0 D4 L 19
Has to be a win Saturday, surely?
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Burnley were very good down the left hand side - and both goals came from their left sided player beating Bardsley - I am sure Hutton will be harder to beat.
George Boyd presumably?
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Burnley were very good down the left hand side - and both goals came from their left sided player beating Bardsley - I am sure Hutton will be harder to beat.
George Boyd presumably?
Think Boyd played on the right most of the game, Dave. First goal came from Ashley Barnes cross, second from Michael Kightly cross.
Two wide players and a team having a go - sighs ..............
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Think Boyd played on the right most of the game, Dave. First goal came from Ashley Barnes cross, second from Michael Kightly cross.
Kightly's got previous good form against us as well - think he brought Stoke back into the game before Lowton's volley a couple of years ago.
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I'm looking forward to this one, haven't been to Burnley before let alone the ground.
I like Burnley because I made my one and only appearance as a ball boy at Villa Park against them, when Peter Noble scored both goals in a 1-1 draw. I got paid 25p and got a chance to wear the rather nifty blue umbro tracksuit. Happy Days!
We will win this comfortably I would think and I will celebrate after with large quantities of Benedictine.
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As has been mentioned, our record up there is woeful. On the plus side i'm going and we never lose when I go on a rare away trip. Nailed on draw.
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A match we need to win, and should do so. Could easily be a snooze-fest draw, but I'm saying 2-1 Villa with Weimann scoring twice.
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I'm looking forward to this one, haven't been to Burnley before let alone the ground.
I like Burnley because I made my one and only appearance as a ball boy at Villa Park against them, when Peter Noble scored both goals in a 1-1 draw. I got paid 25p and got a chance to wear the rather nifty blue umbro tracksuit. Happy Days!
We will win this comfortably I would think and I will celebrate after with large quantities of Benedictine.
My first game !!!! Sat on a stanction on witton bank, with my Grandad's arms around me in case I fell off - I thought Burnley were great because they scored for us.
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I'm looking forward to this one, haven't been to Burnley before let alone the ground.
I like Burnley because I made my one and only appearance as a ball boy at Villa Park against them, when Peter Noble scored both goals in a 1-1 draw. I got paid 25p and got a chance to wear the rather nifty blue umbro tracksuit. Happy Days!
We will win this comfortably I would think and I will celebrate after with large quantities of Benedictine.
My first game !!!! Sat on a stanction on witton bank, with my Grandad's arms around me in case I fell off - I thought Burnley were great because they scored for us.
😄 fancy that mate...coincidences weave through our lives eh.
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0-0. Two teams who don't score many. Two teams who wont want to lose it. Awful on the eye and undoubtedly last on MOTD.
nail, head. Okore, Hutton and Agbonlahor were our best players in the last game so one of them to go off injured or pick up a red card.
So how come Clark got man of the match?
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A hard fought 1-1 draw. Andy Lochhead for us and Andy Lochhead for them!
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1-1.
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0-0. Two teams who don't score many. Two teams who wont want to lose it. Awful on the eye and undoubtedly last on MOTD.
nail, head. Okore, Hutton and Agbonlahor were our best players in the last game so one of them to go off injured or pick up a red card.
So how come Clark got man of the match?
One of the sponsors fancied him and wanted their photo taken with him. I thought that was how all our man of the matches were chosen - the choices are often inexplicable otherwise.
He did have a good game, mind. Although to be fair I normally think both he and Baker do OK except when they are paired with each other for some reason.
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0-0 bore draw
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Random and slightly unhinged I know but we are going to win this 4-2.
We will be first on MOTD.
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I reckon we'll try and counter. I know, I know, can I see into the future?
2-1 defeat
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0-0 or 1-0 to them I think
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Absolutely no way this game will go to script (0-0). I guarantee that.
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2 1 defeat
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Well I'm sure we'll play ultra defensive so there won't be many goals.
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1-1.
Not a good result if we lose at Palace and don't beat Leicester.
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If we don't score until later in the second half and manage to keep them out before then, we could get a 1 - 0. If we score too early, it will be 1 - 1 or we'll lose 2 -1 because of our annoying habit of dropping deep.
I want to see Grealish run at them but please no Zog. He was terrible against Southampton.
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This would be my line up -
------------ Guzan -------------
Hutton. Clark. Okore. Cissoko
----- Sanchez. Westwood -----
--cleverly ----- Grealish -----
------------- Weimann --------
----------------Gabby ------------
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This would be my line up -
------------ Guzan -------------
Hutton. Clark. Okore. Cissoko
----- Sanchez. Westwood -----
--cleverly ----- Grealish -----
------------- Weimann --------
----------------Gabby ------------
Yep, I'd agree with that.
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He wont start Grealish, it will be Richardson, yawn.
I think we will win this and Lambert survives again. Probably get a contract extension.
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Agree, Lambert won't play Grealish . It will be Richardson and then he will take Sanchez off on 76 mins and bring Joe Cole on .
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Yes, you're right about Richardson being preferred to Grealish unfortunately.
You'd think that while Delph was out it would be a good time to give the lad some game time. He seemed to be ready for it the last time he came on and he could cause Burnley a lot of problems.
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0-0
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Wouldn't surprise me if Grealish isn't loaned out again before Saturday .
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Wouldn't surprise me if Grealish isn't loaned out again before Saturday .
Depressingly, I wouldn't be surprised either. He really could be the spark we desperately need at the moment so of course that means he won't get a chance.
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It's all quite tragic, oh for the heady days of Robbie Keane on loan.
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We really should change the claret & blue to grey because 1. the current mob are an insult to the colours, and 2. they might as well go all out to match the cloud of misery hanging over us. I just can't see any ray of sunshine at the moment so a turgid defeat is my prediction.
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This is a must win game. Lose this and the knives will surely come out. Burnley winning three on the bounce, with their inconsistency? Surely not!!
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Can we have a teary-eyed Samir Nasri equivalent plea via the BBC/media for a Villa win vs the might Burnley?
"Oh...boo hoo us poor mercenaries might be told to fuck off if we don't succeed in the Champions League this year. Please fix it so a player is sent off early......"
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Given in goal and the goose up front please Lambert
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This will be tougher now than it might have been a month ago because of their two wins, and I think being at home they will target this as a winnable game, and their crowd should be really up for it. Then again because our form is slowly improving (I did say SLOWLY!) then it might be a better time to play them. The defence was much better the other night so if we can repeat that here and explict the pace of Gabby and get him and Weinmann into the game then this should be an away win. Also, I would start Jack Grealish as I think this sort of game is just right for him. We're against limited oppersition who may think they have our attack figured out, it'll be a cold northern afternoon and Grealish can just run the game for us and open things up for the strikers. Then if things are going well after an hour maybe give him a rest. Anyway, a hard fought 1-0 win with Weinmann to score the winner.
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No doubt N'Zogbia will start ahead of Jack and will run down every cul de sac in Lancashire. With his head down.
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This will be tougher now than it might have been a month ago because of their two wins, and I think being at home they will target this as a winnable game, and their crowd should be really up for it. Then again because our form is slowly improving (I did say SLOWLY!) then it might be a better time to play them. The defence was much better the other night so if we can repeat that here and explict the pace of Gabby and get him and Weinmann into the game then this should be an away win. Also, I would start Jack Grealish as I think this sort of game is just right for him. We're against limited oppersition who may think they have our attack figured out, it'll be a cold northern afternoon and Grealish can just run the game for us and open things up for the strikers. Then if things are going well after an hour maybe give him a rest. Anyway, a hard fought 1-0 win with Weinmann to score the winner.
See I disagree on our form improving, I think that's too broad a statement. Our results are improving (when 2 consecutive draws counts as an upturn in form you have to be pretty worried), largely because we're playing against weaker sides, but the underlying problems are all still there and the performances haven't changed at all, the difference is that our mistakes aren't being so ruthlessly punished and the opposition are making more mistakes.
I've voted for a Villa win and I'm optimistic about the result but I think it'll be yet another backs to the wall hang on for the points game, we look like a badly coached team and that's not going to change any time soon but we've got enough in the squad to win games ugly and I think results will continue to improve but it'll be almost accidental rather than a result of anything we've worked on. The Lambert "we've worked on using Gabby's pace" comment after a Clark tackle/clearance and Forster error gifted us a goal showed just how little interest he has in trying to coach the team to create chances. Percentage based diagonal crosses to Benteke seems to be his only input to our playing style when we have the ball.
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Sorry only just seen the previous posts about Grealish. I fear you guys might be right but was just saying what I would do, and I guess what anyone with half a clue would do :'(
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He has got to acknowledge that he needs to do something with the midfield. It is entirely unacceptable to keep stringing out players in a line, as we have seen the sum total it creates; a goal every other game and one, maybe two shots on target. I feel sorry for Cleverley the way he is being used and cannot for the life of me understand why Lambert doesn't have Sanchez and Westwood sitting, with Cleverley in front of them creating the option for the other two to make a forward pass. It would also mean we'd be much more likely to have a midfielder hit the box, as he wouldn't be quite so deep.
That is another point too, if we go to Burnley and sit as deep as we have been doing then I will be absolutely staggered. The way we not only fell back en mass on Monday and squeezed it so tight that we only pressed from 30 yards from our goal was poor.
Burnley are probably the poorest side in the league, but you have got to go about them and attack them, otherwise you give them a chance.
He won't bring Grealish in, he won't play Andi up top and we will likely play with the same flat midfield and struggle to create anything unless it comes from an early Hutton cross. That is my prediction. Whether that will be enough to take three points is largely down to how Burnley play.
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I'd go 4-4-2 for this one. Our current shape is doing absolutely nothing for us going forward and too many players are currently being asked to play in positions that they're not very good at. I'd drop Sanchez and N'Zogbia for Richardson and Bacuna and move Weimann and gabby upfront as a 2.
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I fear 4-4-2 would simply be another body, most likely Richardson, to throw into the defensive screen that our midfield is currently used for, rather than provide width.
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We'll play well and take a mostly-deserved lead, at which time we'll promptly shit ourselves, crawl into our shells and eventually concede an equalizer, with a possible chance of a further kick to the balls late winner.
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I've a hunch lambert WILL try something different on Saturday. This will lead to a 6 goal thriller with us running out 4-2 winners.
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I think we'll lose. I hope we don't, but if we do I really pray it signals the end of Lambert. Surely this would be one shit result too far. Burnley will attack us and they know we are soft through the middle. If they strike early I really fear that we don't have the ammo to get 1 let alone 2 goals. I cannot believe that after such promise of entertainment and goals that we have arguably the most boring side in the league to watch and 6 goals to our credit. Horrible.
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I fear 4-4-2 would simply be another body, most likely Richardson, to throw into the defensive screen that our midfield is currently used for, rather than provide width.
You're probably right but, if nothing else, it would negate the appalling predictability that our current set-up carries. it must be the so easy for opposing managers to plan against us at the moment. "Well, they don't really attack via the flanks, and they don;t really have any creativity in the middle and, er, Benteke's not playing..."
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Burnley attacking us at will is probably playing into the only game plan we have. If Sean Dytch (sp) is clever he will do the opposite , sit tight, keep a clean sheet and wait for a villa player to make a monumental fuck up and gift them the game .
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I think we'll lose. I hope we don't, but if we do I really pray it signals the end of Lambert. Surely this would be one shit result too far. Burnley will attack us and they know we are soft through the middle. If they strike early I really fear that we don't have the ammo to get 1 let alone 2 goals. I cannot believe that after such promise of entertainment and goals that we have arguably the most boring side in the league to watch and 6 goals to our credit. Horrible.
I agree with every word you say except one. 'Arguably'
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Had the always interesting experience of being in the ticket office just now. 31 tix left for Saturday.
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Had the always interesting experience of being in the ticket office just now. 31 tix left for Saturday.
To sell 31 short of 4,000 the way we're playing is tremendous.
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I think we'll lose. I hope we don't, but if we do I really pray it signals the end of Lambert. Surely this would be one shit result too far. Burnley will attack us and they know we are soft through the middle. If they strike early I really fear that we don't have the ammo to get 1 let alone 2 goals. I cannot believe that after such promise of entertainment and goals that we have arguably the most boring side in the league to watch and 6 goals to our credit. Horrible.
Sorry TV, but Lambert (under Lerner) is unsackable.
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Had the always interesting experience of being in the ticket office just now. 31 tix left for Saturday.
To sell 31 short of 4,000 the way we're playing is tremendous.
Its actually over 4000, as the allocation is about 4100 odd. Its madness to think that this will be the biggest following we have taken away from home since we were 3rd in the league in March under O'Neill.
Given the state of how badly we have been playing not just this season, but for what is now getting for the 5th season in a row, the way the away support has held up is great.
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I've a feeling this is going to be a great day out and a solid villa win.
COYVB.
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I think we'll lose. I hope we don't, but if we do I really pray it signals the end of Lambert. Surely this would be one shit result too far. Burnley will attack us and they know we are soft through the middle. If they strike early I really fear that we don't have the ammo to get 1 let alone 2 goals. I cannot believe that after such promise of entertainment and goals that we have arguably the most boring side in the league to watch and 6 goals to our credit. Horrible.
Sorry TV, but Lambert (under Lerner) is unsackable.
There's no such thing. Everyone is sackable. He might not want to do it but there would come a point where the camel is lying on the ground, his back broken, smashed to pieces.
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Had the always interesting experience of being in the ticket office just now. 31 tix left for Saturday.
To sell 31 short of 4,000 the way we're playing is tremendous.
Absolutely, but I think as a club we are blessed with supporters who like drinking large quantities of alcohol in different towns every fortnight or so. I'm one of them. It also helps the game experience, these days, watching through a booze haze. I did enjoy Liverpool, we're due another so Come on Villa!
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Agree, games like this are wonderful days out , it's about 8pm Sunday night it catches up with you. If we've won it's all worthwhile and you can savour it again on motd2 . If not, well let's not discuss that.
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Cannot see any sacking until we are bottom of the table and approx 5 points adrift, so January .
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0-3 Gabby x 3
We go again.
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0-3 Gabby x 3
We go again.
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Gabriel Agbonlahor / Aston Villa 3-0 @ 200/1
Fill your boots.
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Come on lads, let's fuck 'em. Burnley 0 Villa 4.
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Come on lads, let's fuck 'em. Burnley 0 Villa 4.
Too fucking right. Let's give these kit stealing bumpkins a right fucking shovelling.
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I've put a daft fiver on Villa 4-3, Gabby to score first.
950-1
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I've put a daft fiver on Villa 4-3, Gabby to score first.
950-1
Good luck .
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I've put a daft fiver on Villa 4-3, Gabby to score first.
950-1
Good luck .
It's a game with two sides with crap attack, and occasionally suspect defence. It's gonna go either 0-0 or be surprisingly high scoring I reckon.
I'm hoping for a game like West Brom last season.
I won't start making too many plans on what to spend the money on that being said! ha ha.
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This game will be like signing up to talk talk for a year no action slow and all bull shit
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On paper it screams 0-0. Which IMHO is exactly why it will be the exact opposite .
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First ever visit to Burnley for me. Can anyone recommend any decent pubs for away fans that are safe, and within walking distance of the ground? Thanks!
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Andy Lochhead with two first half goals for Burnley, is then transferred to us during the half time break and scores a hat trick for us.
3-2 win !
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The great man will no doubt be there working in hospitality for them. Give him the Andy Lochhead chant those who are going. You never know he might come out and give you a wave!
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Since Keane could not be arsed to attend this match, the players may well wonder whether they should act the same. Firing Lambert today and making Gordon caretaker might be enough to give them the necessary boost.
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If they had any sense, which they don't, they would be sounding out replacements for Lambert and his travelling circus as we speak, ready for the axe to fall after our next terrible run.
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Finding it difficult to call this match. It's certainly winnable but I don't see that we've got a win in us.
A draw is probably a likely result but nothing would surprise me if we lost.
There, think I've got all the bases covered.
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I really believe a defeat tomorrow is curtains for Lambert. Shit recent form, Keane now gone. It will be Black Monday for Lambert if we lose to Burnley.
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I like your optimism Toronto, unless Lambert gets caught with his hand in the till then I can't see it happening.
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I'm looking forward to it. Good company and a ground i've never been to before.
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I like your optimism Toronto, unless Lambert gets caught with his hand in the till then I can't see it happening.
I never hope we lose. But I think the writing is now on the wall. He looks a beaten man too in the press conferences because even taking into consideration a very unlucky run of injuries, his record at the club is entirely indefensible. I think he has tried and has failed and is a shell of the positive, ambitious manager that arrived just over 2 years ago. He needs to go and find a new opportunity to rebuild his career because this experience will have hurt his career. It can be rebuilt; look at McClaren. But we need a fresh start and so does he.
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I'm looking forward to it. Good company and a ground i've never been to before.
I believe that it's near Wrexham
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I really believe a defeat tomorrow is curtains for Lambert. Shit recent form, Keane now gone. It will be Black Monday for Lambert if we lose to Burnley.
Maybe Roy was tipped off that Lambert could be gone after tomorrow and thought; "feck that, I'm not risking being put in charge of that shambles"
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I predict we will make a right old racket.
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I have been following Villa since the mid sixties and i can't ever recall winning a match at Turf Moor .Under the clueless one i can't see it changing tomorrow. Will go for a hard fought 0-0
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I have been following Villa since the mid sixties and i can't ever recall winning a match at Turf Moor .Under the clueless one i can't see it changing tomorrow. Will go for a hard fought 0-0
1936 was our last win there. A run of nearly 30 games since then.
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I have been following Villa since the mid sixties and i can't ever recall winning a match at Turf Moor .Under the clueless one i can't see it changing tomorrow. Will go for a hard fought 0-0
1936 was our last win there. A run of nearly 30 games since then.
Jesus wept! I remember Peter McParland saying they were our bogey team in that history video, but I didn't realise it was as bad as that.
A 4-0 win to us it is then.
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If we win tomorrow, then consider me a good luck charm. We haven't lost any of my away games since I started doing a few again, our only 2 wins at Stoke since they got promoted were my two visits. Win tomorrow and i'll expect you folks to start buying my away tickets and travel!
And Mr Sox can't wait to have me decorate his car with scarves!
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I have been following Villa since the mid sixties and i can't ever recall winning a match at Turf Moor .Under the clueless one i can't see it changing tomorrow. Will go for a hard fought 0-0
1936 was our last win there. A run of nearly 30 games since then.
Jesus wept! I remember Peter McParland saying they were our bogey team in that history video, but I didn't realise it was as bad as that.
A 4-0 win to us it is then.
I remember that, saying how we never won up there, he also said they never won at VP. IIRC we drew up there and beat them in the replay at VP.
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If we win tomorrow, then consider me a good luck charm. We haven't lost any of my away games since I started doing a few again, our only 2 wins at Stoke since they got promoted were my two visits. Win tomorrow and i'll expect you folks to start buying my away tickets and travel!
And Mr Sox can't wait to have me decorate his car with scarves!
Do you still do that hang a scarf out the window job? That brings back a few memories.
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If we win tomorrow, then consider me a good luck charm. We haven't lost any of my away games since I started doing a few again, our only 2 wins at Stoke since they got promoted were my two visits. Win tomorrow and i'll expect you folks to start buying my away tickets and travel!
And Mr Sox can't wait to have me decorate his car with scarves!
Do you still do that hang a scarf out the window job? That brings back a few memories.
Yep. It's a car tradition for me going back being a nipper with my parents going to games. Mr Sox very kindly tolerates it. I love the sound of a scarf flapping on a window. I'm dead mature!
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I'm with you all the way, Mr Shins. Nothing better than seeing other Villa fans on the road. The only positive this season to date has been our fantastic away support. They deserve so much more then the crap served up.
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I'm with you all the way, Mr Shins. Nothing better than seeing other Villa fans on the road. The only positive this season to date has been our fantastic away support. They deserve so much more then the crap served up.
With just over 4K of us tomorrow there should be plenty of us on the roads. Something very satisfying about giving the thumbs up to other Villans on the road. If you see a car with a Villa scarf out the window heading to Wales, that will be me and Mr Sox!
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I went to Turf Moor (is it still called that) in 74 for a cup game, what a let down, in the previous round we had beat Arsenal in a replay at Villa Park in front of 48,000 fans baying for blood after the Sammy Morgan/Bob wilson clash at Highbury.
I do not know how many Villa fans were at Turf Moor that day but the crowd according to the reccords was 29,000, I hazard a guess of 6,000 +Villa.
In true Villa style we lost 1.0 I think it was Riochs last game for us.
My stongest memory of that day was, "it is a bit strange up North"
We sat in a traffic jam trying to get out of the place for what seemed like hours, we were in a residential area, artypical Northern streets and all the doors were open with people standing on doorsteps or hanging out of windows gawping at us as if they were visitors at a zoo looking at a new specis.
You can only imagine the non politicaly correct chants and insults that that were hurled at them.
It was February and bleak.
It is surrounded by hills and I think that whoever wrote Jerusalam, and penned those lines about " Dark Satanic Mills " must have just come back from a weekend in Burnley.
For everyone going tomorrow, have a great day out, irrespetive of the result, you are Aston Villa not Lerner or the Muppet Lambert.
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Arrived base camp Wigan. Few beers then press onto burnley tomorrow about 11.
UTV VTID LWT ABV ASBO
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Already arrived in Burnley - very misty and dank but not too cold. In fact much warmer than Monday night. Motorways were busy coming up lots of roadworks. Get here early if you want to park a car.
My theory about Keano is he was told Grealish might start tomorrow and he still wants him to play for Ireland. Either that or he has upset one of the other players.
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Burnley 2-0 villa. Praying that I'm wrong!!
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Lambert is getting increasingly isolated, results are shite, performances are shite, crowds are falling & those who do go want him out. Senior players are on the brink of leaving for nothing, those remaining are not good enough. Then Keane's does a sudden exit, hopefully just before the axe falls.
If Lambert's days are numbered, would you rely on Lerner to get it right next time? By this time next week we might have seen the back of this clown.
We'll win tomorrow, though.
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Regardless of the current circus surrounding the club, I just want us to win tomorrow. A few points from the next 3 fixtures is vital.
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Regardless of the current circus surrounding the club, I just want us to win tomorrow. A few points from the next 3 fixtures is vital.
That's the problem though isn't it mate. We want the Villa to do well but it just keeps an inept manager in post.
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Have read little of the earlier threads, not long back from the commitments in London, would be nice if all 11 of our players could show that. Would certainly bin NZogbia after Monday, loads of talent but does he want to be here? Other than that, cant see much change and reckon we will win :-(, that is bad news for us with my tips this season
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Regardless of the current circus surrounding the club, I just want us to win tomorrow. A few points from the next 3 fixtures is vital.
I feel that way too.
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Regardless of the current circus surrounding the club, I just want us to win tomorrow. A few points from the next 3 fixtures is vital.
I feel that way too.
And me.
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I cannot believe any Villa fan would not want us to win
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Come on Villa. Rip Burnley apart. No Mercy.
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I cannot believe any Villa fan would not want us to win
I can see both sides. I want us to win and badly. But a part of me wants Lambert gone and the only way that is going to happen is is losing. It's the silver cloud associated to us not winning tomorrow that would make losing in any way tolerable. I hate to be where I am mentally.
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I cannot believe any Villa fan would not want us to win
I can see both sides. I want us to win and badly. But a part of me wants Lambert gone and the only way that is going to happen is is losing. It's the silver cloud associated to us not winning tomorrow that would make losing in any way tolerable. I hate to be where I am mentally.
Agree with you. I always want us to win but I want this agony to stop. Fear we will get an unconvincing draw then limp on to the next one. So it's last chance saloon for me, win or go.
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We could lose every game till January and Lambert would be just fine with Randy. Thats just the way it is.
I hope that we will somehow transform into a free flowing attacking side tomorrow. Maybe, just maybe Burnley is bad enough that we will look good.
I doubt it though and assume another limp loss or draw.
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which of course makes us a complete basket case. How can any manager loose every game until Christmas and still be in a job? There has to be a tipping point where the cost of sacking him is significantly less than those associated with relegation. It's the only hope we've got, short of the type of metamorphosis only seen in Kafka novels. Please, Randy act like a professional and make the right decision.
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It may suck but its just the way it is. Lerner changed his mind again during the summer and has decided he is going all in with Lambert. I would say we have a greater chance of a 20 million pound signing in january than Lambert being sacked.
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you could well be right ciggie it's just monumentally depressing
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It'll be last on MOTD anyway, so it may as well be 0-0.
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you could well be right ciggie it's just monumentally depressing
Aye. It is :(
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Andy Lochhead to turn out for them in the first half and score the only goal of the half. Second half Andy Lochhead will turn out for us and score the only goal of the half.
So 1-1. Not bad enough to get Lambert out I'm afraid.
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What Lambert needs is not only some wins under his belt but some good attacking football thrown in as well. I've got a tiny bit of sympathy for him with what's gone on since the summer but he hasn't helped himself either.
Anyway, I'm going for a draw today. See you up there.
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short trip for me...no lie in this morning...too bloody anxious...utv
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I'm not used to getting up this early to get ready for a game!
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Good luck to everyone going to the game today, you're one of the main reasons I want to see a Villa win. Great support my Lord, great support.
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This is a must win.
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My first away game of the season today. Fingers crossed for some shots on goal.
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The son and I are going. Last minute decision to be part of the 4000. I remember doing this at Wigan when the away fans turned on McLeish, will we see a repeat today? I truly hope not and this can be our turnng point. However I'm going for a 1-1 and we limp on with Lambert.
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This is a must win.
With 30% possession and a single shot on goal, its a tall order but we must believe we can do it
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On the plus side it doesn't look as though the weather will be too bad up there. Mr Sox is nearly here so see you up there. UTV!
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I'm not used to getting up this early to get ready for a game!
What time are you and Mr Sox starting off?
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I'm not used to getting up this early to get ready for a game!
What time are you and Mr Sox starting off?
He's getting here any time now and then we're heading up. If we get there early we'll just have a bite to eat.
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Word of warning! It's my birthday today and we never ever win on my special day, or the closest match to it. A win would make my day, but I am sure I can rely on Villa to fuck that up, as they seem do everything else. And at least a loss might have 4,000 fans baying for that idiot's head which hopefully will be the signal for him to be kicked out
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I cannot believe any Villa fan would not want us to win
I can see both sides. I want us to win and badly. But a part of me wants Lambert gone and the only way that is going to happen is is losing. It's the silver cloud associated to us not winning tomorrow that would make losing in any way tolerable. I hate to be where I am mentally.
I can certainly relate to that. Nothing beats a Villa win and it makes such a huge difference to my mood and weekend. But I desperately want this individual gone from my club and that would make me almost as happy, if not more so just now. Sadly.
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Andy Lochhead to turn out for them in the first half and score the only goal of the half. Second half Andy Lochhead will turn out for us and score the only goal of the half.
So 1-1. Not bad enough to get Lambert out I'm afraid.
Used to love Martin Dobson for them. Memories come flooding back of Brian Flynn, Steve Kindon et al. Didn't Leighton James used to play for them too?
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It will be an interesting day I think and not only because of recent events. The contrast between what is likely to be our lowest home attendance of the season on monday against what looks like being the highest away support will add to the mix.
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I suppose its going to be like playing a championship side in the cup who are going to be right up for it to beat a great name
In Aston villa . loads of passion and fight from the underdog ? no , not villa.
McGrath helps us .
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I think we' ll win 0-2, Weimann scoring twice
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I think we' ll win 0-2, Weimann scoring twice
I'm on the apple and pear juice, but I'll have some of what you are on please!
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I think we' ll win 0-2, Weimann scoring twice
I'm on the apple and pear juice, but I'll have some of what you are on please!
I know what you mean but I've just got a feeling that we'll win and keep a clean sheet .
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Andy Lochhead to turn out for them in the first half and score the only goal of the half. Second half Andy Lochhead will turn out for us and score the only goal of the half.
So 1-1. Not bad enough to get Lambert out I'm afraid.
Used to love Martin Dobson for them. Memories come flooding back of Brian Flynn, Steve Kindon et al. Didn't Leighton James used to play for them too?
Brian Flynn and Leighton James, pure class.
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Ralph Coates, jumpers for goalposts, me preteding to be Frank Carrodus...
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Sorry only just seen the previous posts about Grealish. I fear you guys might be right but was just saying what I would do, and I guess what anyone with half a clue would do :'(
I completely agree with you. If we do end up in a backs to the wall scenario which I think is likely, he's the type of player to win free kicks when we get the ball back which helps to take the pressure off the defence and could set up a scoring chance.
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Needed to go to the bank this morning. Walking down Bridge Street in Ramsbottom I'm met by half a dozen young lads coming in the opposite direction giving it a derisory, "Villa, Villa..." In Ramsbottom at 11 o'clock in the morning... Sometmes somethings make me proud... at other times...
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Burnley 2.2 Villa 3.7 on Betfair so Burnley are string favourites. To paraphrase Ron Saunders, would you bet on us?
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Steve Kindon - of whom they used to say: strength of a shire horse, pace of a racehorse, brains of a rocking horse.
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Steve Kindon - of whom they used to say: strength of a shire horse, pace of a racehorse, brains of a rocking horse.
Chortle
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Andy Lochhead to turn out for them in the first half and score the only goal of the half. Second half Andy Lochhead will turn out for us and score the only goal of the half.
So 1-1. Not bad enough to get Lambert out I'm afraid.
Used to love Martin Dobson for them. Memories come flooding back of Brian Flynn, Steve Kindon et al. Didn't Leighton James used to play for them too?
He did
They also had a player called Peter Noble who looked about 50.
They had a decent team in the mid 70's
I recall them beating us 3 nil at home in 73, and an uncle of mine who was visiting at the time teasing me about the result. My 8 year self started crying with all the teasing and I ran up stairs. Funny what you remember. In the mid 80's That same Uncle used to have a yellow top of the range Triumph Dolomite which he promised to me. He then died and I didn't get the car! Gutted
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Joe Cole starts in place of N'Zogbia and Robinson on bench
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Cole starting!! FFS.
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I'd have jack than Cole but Lambert is a better manager than me .
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This should be fun.
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Let's face it Cole can hardly be any less effective than N'Zogbia.
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I bet Cole scores.
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Can someone less lazy than me start a match thread, please?
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I bet he limps off.
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Match thread started