To early for a transfer tread but.......Well, we may as well. There will be links throughout December and they may as well stay in one place.
I wonder if we have ever signed the first player we have been linked with ahead of a trasnfer window?Possibly Senderos. He got him in very early, so I wonder if we'd had any links before that.
A transfer thread that begins with a grammar error and will probably end with errant signings. Too much to bear.
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A grammatical error.
(http://data1.whicdn.com/images/50159975/original.gif)A transfer thread that begins with a grammar error and will probably end with errant signings. Too much to bear.
A grammatical error.
We need to get some forward width and a creative central midfield player that will open the play up.Nicky Shorey, Grant Holt and the triumphant return of Gabor Kiraly.
We will probably get a full back, a centre forward and a keeper.
Him or Ronaldo. I reckon within 2 or 3 games either player would single handedly eclipse our season goal tally.
Him or Ronaldo. I reckon within 2 or 3 games either player wouldsingle handedly eclipse our season goal tally.brought down to our level
How many times do we here on Sky, "And this is "_______" favourite away ground".....
....about 19 times a season!
Are we still on the lookout for one of those Number 10's as Lambert likes to call them? Or was Joe Cole it?Unfortunately most players end up as number 2's under this donut of a manager.
What about Altidore?
Could come in useful as cover now Bent has gone onloan.
What about Altidore?Jay Spearing as well to cover Delph.
Could come in useful as cover now Bent has gone onloan.
I don't care who we sign in January as long as Lambert isn't here to welcome them.
The reason for that is that we are the worst team amongst PL permies. Everton and Spurs come close but where they have progressed in the last 4 years we have regressed.How many times do we here on Sky, "And this is "_______" favourite away ground".....
....about 19 times a season!
Yep. It's invariably "they have won more games against Aston Villa than any other team" or "he's scored more goals against Aston Villa than other team".
What about Altidore?Rob I think that stand with the lamp on top outside the Holte will be more mobile!
Could come in useful as cover now Bent has gone onloan.
What about Altidore?
Could come in useful as cover now Bent has gone on loan.
The reason for that is that we are the worst team amongst PL permies. Everton and Spurs come close but where they have progressed in the last 4 years we have regressed.How many times do we here on Sky, "And this is "_______" favourite away ground".....
....about 19 times a season!
Yep. It's invariably "they have won more games against Aston Villa than any other team" or "he's scored more goals against Aston Villa than other team".
Rob is Villa Kicks and I claim my £10.What about Altidore?
Could come in useful as cover now Bent has gone on loan.
A mod should move this to the jokes thread.
Danny Ings is out of contract in the summer. Lively forward that would improve us.He looks the part but it's still too early to know if he can keep it going at this level. Same with Austin. That said Ings will probably end up somewhere like Spurs or Liverpool then struggle I reckon.
Quality out wide is probably the priority in Jan. Badly need better quality players than Weimann and Gabby.
Danny Ings is out of contract in the summer. Lively forward that would improve us.He looks the part but it's still too early to know if he can keep it going at this level. Same with Austin. That said Ings will probably end up somewhere like Spurs or Liverpool then struggle I reckon.
Quality out wide is probably the priority in Jan. Badly need better quality players than Weimann and Gabby.
I said Danny Ings 12 months ago, going to be a really good player, has a bit of Robbie Fowler about him.
Is probably our level atm, if he goes anywhere else his 1st team options will be limited, and i think we can offer him 1st team football.
Should be our kind of signing.
Midfielders, midfielders, midfielders.
No one is going to pay any money for Poppadam Ron.
No one is going to pay any money for Poppadam Ron.
Honestly reached the point where I would take any fee we receive for him in January, particularly if Clark and Okore continue to improve and Senderos returns. This is the third season in a row he has missed a substantial number of games and it's time we moved on.
Any Benteke to Spurs/Liverpool rumours yet? It's been over three hours.
No one is going to pay any money for Poppadam Ron.
Honestly reached the point where I would take any fee we receive for him in January, particularly if Clark and Okore continue to improve and Senderos returns. This is the third season in a row he has missed a substantial number of games and it's time we moved on.
And you just know that when he moves he'll do a McGrath and hardly miss another game.
Neither does holtby for Spurs
Rob is Villa Kicks and I claim my £10.What about Altidore?
Could come in useful as cover now Bent has gone on loan.
A mod should move this to the jokes thread.
;)
VK even mentioned Jason Scotland at one point and in all seriousness. It was arguably his/your finest hour. ha ha.Rob is Villa Kicks and I claim my £10.What about Altidore?
Could come in useful as cover now Bent has gone on loan.
A mod should move this to the jokes thread.
;)
Lol
My own sweepstake was on Toronto responding first.
Was Shelvey the other one he used to go on about a lot? As well as about 100 others.
No one is going to pay any money for Poppadam Ron.
Honestly reached the point where I would take any fee we receive for him in January, particularly if Clark and Okore continue to improve and Senderos returns. This is the third season in a row he has missed a substantial number of games and it's time we moved on.
And you just know that when he moves he'll do a McGrath and hardly miss another game.
I think he calves are shot. If they were not, Van Gaal would have bought him in the summer
I think we're covered in central midfield as long as Delph is still here
I'd prioritise players who can play centrally and wide in the three positions behind a forward in a 4231
Salah doesn't get a game for chelsea
Neither does holtby for Spurs
Both are exactly the TYPE of player we need. But I have to say I've never actually seen holtby in particular do too much
Ashley Young would also fit these criteria ... Not sure his attitude would work for us, though.I think we're covered in central midfield as long as Delph is still here
I'd prioritise players who can play centrally and wide in the three positions behind a forward in a 4231
Salah doesn't get a game for chelsea
Neither does holtby for Spurs
Both are exactly the TYPE of player we need. But I have to say I've never actually seen holtby in particular do too much
Ideally, yes, but looking at last night it would seem our weakest area right now. Clevery has not impressed me so far. I do like Westwood, but his form is still hit and miss. And while Delph has a lot to offer, his passing isn't always the strongest feature of his game. With a big of luck Sanchez will build on last night and just get better from now on.
Rob is Villa Kicks and I claim my £10.What about Altidore?
Could come in useful as cover now Bent has gone on loan.
A mod should move this to the jokes thread.
;)
Lol
My own sweepstake was on Toronto responding first.
Was Shelvey the other one he used to go on about a lot? As well as about 100 others.
Thanks, VK.
No one is going to pay any money for Poppadam Ron.
Honestly reached the point where I would take any fee we receive for him in January, particularly if Clark and Okore continue to improve and Senderos returns. This is the third season in a row he has missed a substantial number of games and it's time we moved on.
And you just know that when he moves he'll do a McGrath and hardly miss another game.
Ruiz makes sense. Plays atttacking street football and has toughened up in lower echelons of championship football . Brian seems fully versed to take on villas fight and help alliances and continued relations between Colombia and Costa Rica. A nice deal by all accounts. I see blues have re signed zigic i hearr heskey wasnt wanting re signed to them. Haha. Oh such matters of returning eidur gudjohnsen re signing I wonder which villa players could re sign ?
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Ruiz makes sense. Plays atttacking street football and has toughened up in lower echelons of championship football . Brian seems fully versed to take on villas fight and help alliances and continued relations between Colombia and Costa Rica. A nice deal by all accounts. I see blues have re signed zigic i hearr heskey wasnt wanting re signed to them. Haha. Oh such matters of returning eidur gudjohnsen re signing I wonder which villa players could re sign ?
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You make it sound like Ruiz is going to happen or is this just speculation?
Ruiz makes sense. Plays atttacking street football and has toughened up in lower echelons of championship football . Brian seems fully versed to take on villas fight and help alliances and continued relations between Colombia and Costa Rica. A nice deal by all accounts. I see blues have re signed zigic i hearr heskey wasnt wanting re signed to them. Haha. Oh such matters of returning eidur gudjohnsen re signing I wonder which villa players could re sign ?
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You make it sound like Ruiz is going to happen or is this just speculation?
Ruiz makes sense. Plays atttacking street football and has toughened up in lower echelons of championship football . Brian seems fully versed to take on villas fight and help alliances and continued relations between Colombia and Costa Rica. A nice deal by all accounts. I see blues have re signed zigic i hearr heskey wasnt wanting re signed to them. Haha. Oh such matters of returning eidur gudjohnsen re signing I wonder which villa players could re sign ?
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You make it sound like Ruiz is going to happen or is this just speculation?
It's VK. Better off being ignored.
Midfielders, midfielders, midfielders.
There is a midfielder at MK Dons who looks a real prospect. His name is Dele Alli and he reminds me a bit of Delph though he has a bit more of a physical presence. I think he's only 18, but has scored 14 goals in 50 odd appearances for them and has represented England at younger age groups.
According to the commentator today, Clark's headed goal was our first headed goal of the season. That says a lot about crossing, width and supply to the strikers.
According to the commentator today, Clark's headed goal was our first headed goal of the season. That says a lot about crossing, width and supply to the strikers.
Or that without Benteke our strikers are shite at heading.
Besides that scrambled goal against Fulham has Weimann scored with his head?
Most of our crosses are diagonals, which are a lot easier to defend. There's only really Cissoko getting to the touchline but most of the time his crossing is poor.
Most of our crosses are diagonals, which are a lot easier to defend. There's only really Cissoko getting to the touchline but most of the time his crossing is poor.
Yeah, that's probably the only area that Lowton offers more than Hutton in. He puts in some great crosses when getting forward from full-back.
The last really good corner I can remember us taking was by Tonev in the home friendly against Malaga!There was that one from Westwood that Benteke scored from in the Norwich 4-1.
We are linked with Darren Fletcher today.Would have been ideal if his body was still up to it. I think he's a busted flush though.
An unfortunate choice of words given the nature of the condition from which he was suffering.We are linked with Darren Fletcher today.I think he's a busted flush though.
We are linked with Darren Fletcher today.
Given supertom's penchant for updating and keeping alive the defecating thread in Off-Topic I'm not sure he can help toilet talk from constantly haunting his consciousness.Nope. I'm cursed.
We are linked with Darren Fletcher today.Report: Sunderland and Aston Villa enter race for Manchester United's Darren
Robbie Keane on a short term loan?
I'd take him back. It could give us a useful option for a few months on the off chance we get any injuries. He could also play the number 10 role pretty well too.Robbie Keane on a short term loan?
37 apps and 23 goals this year tells me another short term loan would be an excellent idea.
I'd take him back. It could give us a useful option for a few months on the off chance we get any injuries. He could also play the number 10 role pretty well too.Robbie Keane on a short term loan?
37 apps and 23 goals this year tells me another short term loan would be an excellent idea.
I'd take him back. It could give us a useful option for a few months on the off chance we get any injuries. He could also play the number 10 role pretty well too.Robbie Keane on a short term loan?
37 apps and 23 goals this year tells me another short term loan would be an excellent idea.
Clint Dempsey could also be an option to play that role on a short term basis.
Joel Campbell from Arsenal would be a decent loan.
Joel Campbell from Arsenal would be a decent loan.
Yeah he a good player but I feel like we'd just be prepping him for them.
If we sign anyone at Xmas it must be a creative or wide midfielder
Ings will be a free in the summer. Assuming bEnteke leaves he'd defibitely be my first choice but unless we're a club on the up I think he'll go to a better side than us
If we sign anyone at Xmas it must be a creative or wide midfielder
Ings will be a free in the summer. Assuming bEnteke leaves he'd defibitely be my first choice but unless we're a club on the up I think he'll go to a better side than us
The complications with Kozak might mean that we'll be looking for a striker now.
Young guy on loan at Boro from Chelsea cant recall his name, scored today, looks a useful youngster, may do on a loan.
Gestede didn't score anywhere near 38 goals last season.
38 between 2 players its bad though.........Godzvilla!I assume that you're trying to say that it isn't bad. Which it's not, but when only 12 of them were scored by Gestede, doesn't it suggest we should be going for the bloke who scored 26 of them instead?
Young guy on loan at Boro from Chelsea cant recall his name, scored today, looks a useful youngster, may do on a loan.
Bamford? Bramford? I think he was at MK last year and did well there too. A Boro fan called into Talksport last night and suggested that if they get promoted then they could do a permanent deal, so he might be available.
38 between 2 players its bad though.........Godzvilla!
In essence you are right re going for the higher scorer but I have felt for some time that GESTI assume that you're trying to say that it isn't bad. Which it's not, but when only 12 of them were scored by Gestede, doesn't it suggest we should be going for the bloke who scored 26 of them instead?38 between 2 players its bad though.........Godzvilla!I assume that you're trying to say that it isn't bad. Which it's not, but when only 12 of them were scored by Gestede, doesn't it suggest we should be going for the bloke who scored 26 of them instead?
38 between 2 players its bad though.........Godzvilla!I assume that you're trying to say that it isn't bad. Which it's not, but when only 12 of them were scored by Gestede, doesn't it suggest we should be going for the bloke who scored 26 of them instead?
On our budget we go for the man who scored 12.38 between 2 players its bad though.........Godzvilla!I assume that you're trying to say that it isn't bad. Which it's not, but when only 12 of them were scored by Gestede, doesn't it suggest we should be going for the bloke who scored 26 of them instead?
From the Beeb
Werder Bremen are being linked with a January move for 24-year-old Sunderland striker Jozy Altidore despite the striker failing to score in the Premier League for more than a year. (Sunderland Echo)
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Villa Kicks will be gutted.
From the Beeb
Werder Bremen are being linked with a January move for 24-year-old Sunderland striker Jozy Altidore despite the striker failing to score in the Premier League for more than a year. (Sunderland Echo)
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Villa Kicks will be gutted.
Maybe you didn't hear, but VK is now manager at Werder
which mercifully Altidore can't. Fee rumoured to be a piss taking 7m
At this stage I'd take any lad who can run really quickly in a straight lineNathan Redmond, perhaps?
which mercifully Altidore can't. Fee rumoured to be a piss taking 7m
I think it's just because of how good he looked at a young age.which mercifully Altidore can't. Fee rumoured to be a piss taking 7m
The best thing about Jozy Altidore is that the internet is full of his army of oddball American fans who are convinced that he's world class despite all evidence to the contrary. Some proper flat-earth-theory level delusion on the go.
the former certainly. Must say I miss VK's declamatory posts
I think it's just because of how good he looked at a young age.which mercifully Altidore can't. Fee rumoured to be a piss taking 7m
The best thing about Jozy Altidore is that the internet is full of his army of oddball American fans who are convinced that he's world class despite all evidence to the contrary. Some proper flat-earth-theory level delusion on the go.
He was scoring regularly in the MLS as a 16 year old and playing in the top league in Spain at 19.
When you've got somebody who looks as good as he did when he was a teenager, it's hard to let go even when the evidence suggests that he's not going to ever be any better than he was when he was 17.
He's like the American Delfouneso.
which mercifully Altidore can't. Fee rumoured to be a piss taking 7m
At this stage I'd take any lad who can run really quickly in a straight lineNathan Redmond, perhaps?
Probably not - Naarrich wouldn't sell to us!
At this stage I'd take any lad who can run really quickly in a straight lineNathan Redmond, perhaps?
Probably not - Naarrich wouldn't sell to us!
Redmond would be absolutely ideal for us. I read into Tom Fox's comments that these would be the type of deals we'd be looking at too - young players with lots of potential (and lots of potential sell-on value). You're right though, Norwich would probably be a nightmare to deal with, as they were over Hoolahan.
I reckon that a straight swap, Dembele for Delph would be ideal for us if he's not planning on sticking around beyond July.
I reckon that a straight swap, Dembele for Delph would be ideal for us if he's not planning on sticking around beyond July.
Lets just offer Delph the cash he wants and add to the first team squad as it would be cheaper than paying a transfer fee plus wages on bring in another player.
What if it has nothing to do with how much money he can earn? What if he wants to play for a club that isn't just treading water?I reckon that a straight swap, Dembele for Delph would be ideal for us if he's not planning on sticking around beyond July.Lets just offer Delph the cash he wants and add to the first team squad as it would be cheaper than paying a transfer fee plus wages on bring in another player.
http://www.transferleague.co.uk/premiership-transfers/aston-villa-transfers.html
The good (Olof Mellberg) the bad (Marlon Harewood) and the Peter Schmeichel of past tranfers... I had forgot how hit and miss its been in the past....
I reckon that a straight swap, Dembele for Delph would be ideal for us if he's not planning on sticking around beyond July.
I agree, and that's certainly what I expect him to so. Which is why if we can get anything for him in January (that doesn't impact on the last few months of the season too negatively) then we should look to do it.I reckon that a straight swap, Dembele for Delph would be ideal for us if he's not planning on sticking around beyond July.
I agree. But surely he would prefer to run down his contract and have his pick of clubs and a bigger signing on fee when he is a free agent.
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/premier-league-gossip-aston-villa-8294065
Premier League Gossip: Aston Villa star set to be swapped for Tottenham Hotspur midfielder?
MIRROR: Midfielder Mousa Dembele is also likely to leave White Hart Lane next month. A swap deal involving Aston Villa’s Fabian Delph has been mooted and Stoke boss Mark Hughes is very keen to take him on loan at the Britannia Stadium.
Happy to have Dembele on loan but a swap deal no way .....
I reckon that a straight swap, Dembele for Delph would be ideal for us if he's not planning on sticking around beyond July.
The club-by-club transfer guide in the Torygraph says that Ikechi Anya from Watford is a 'probable' signing. Is he any good ?
Remember seeing him break through at Wycombe. He's quick, tricky, but going by his performances for Scotland and also Watford I would say he's already playing at the top level he could expect. I don't think he's Premiership quality. If you look at someone like Matt Phillips for example (fellow ex-Wycombite) he's been given a shot in the Premiership but has been unable to make the step up. Phillips was deemed perhaps the best player Wycombe have produced in years. Even more than Anya.The club-by-club transfer guide in the Torygraph says that Ikechi Anya from Watford is a 'probable' signing. Is he any good ?
No.
Pretty pacey (which is something Scotland always lack). Seems to hold onto the ball fairly well too.
I'd like to see some genuine and natural width - I'd like us to sign a direct winger who has end product, someone like Bolasie.
Are you sure they didn't say Bane? He can be quite destructive in a sport stadium.
I see James Nursey is up to his usual lazy journalism by linking Delph with Liverpool.Swapping one Mid-table club for another. I can't see him doing that. Much better clubs than that shower of pillocks will come in for him. I think he'll leave but I'd like to think Delph would be clever enough not to move there.
I see James Nursey is up to his usual lazy journalism by linking Delph with Liverpool.Or just 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' up to their old dirty tricks routine.
I see James Nursey is up to his usual lazy journalism by linking Delph with Liverpool.Swapping one Mid-table club for another. I can't see him doing that. Much better clubs than that shower of pillocks will come in for him. I think he'll leave but I'd like to think Delph would be clever enough not to move there.
Manchester City will be very keen for cheap, good home grown players because of their FFP restrictions.I see James Nursey is up to his usual lazy journalism by linking Delph with Liverpool.Swapping one Mid-table club for another. I can't see him doing that. Much better clubs than that shower of pillocks will come in for him. I think he'll leave but I'd like to think Delph would be clever enough not to move there.
Not sure really. Can't see Chelsea, Man City, Man Utd or Arsenal being interested and I couldn't see him being a regular starter somewhere like that. That would leave the likes of Liverpool, Spurs and maybe Everton, none of who have been particularly inspiring this season.
If Delph goes to Man City, he will be like Rodwell I fear, such a shameAgreed.
I think some of the above will take him on a free. For a fee? No, he won't get top 4. But on a free it makes sense. Chelsea signed Sidwell for example on a free, then a year later sold him on for 5 mill to some mugs...oh...I see James Nursey is up to his usual lazy journalism by linking Delph with Liverpool.Swapping one Mid-table club for another. I can't see him doing that. Much better clubs than that shower of pillocks will come in for him. I think he'll leave but I'd like to think Delph would be clever enough not to move there.
Not sure really. Can't see Chelsea, Man City, Man Utd or Arsenal being interested and I couldn't see him being a regular starter somewhere like that. That would leave the likes of Liverpool, Spurs and maybe Everton, none of who have been particularly inspiring this season.
I'm calling it now but I can see Liverpool making a bid for Austin in Jan.I could see them paying silly money for a player like him and then it turning out like the majority of Rodgers other signings, underwhelming.
Rodgers doesn't make signings, the Committee does, which probably explains why Liverpool wage so much money.They probably scout using Football Manager. Much like VK used to.
...You might be right, if Kozak is not to return. However, he is our equivalent if he does come back.
Austins a really good finisher and a poacher but his all round game won't be enough to make the step up to a club aspiring for top 4.
I'd love him here though. He'd score for fun next to the Beast.
Aston Villa are among several clubs chasing German wonderkid Hany Mukhtar.
http://talksport.com/football/aston-villa-transfer-news-lambert-lining-deal-german-midfield-starlet-141219129280#Ibm2z1QOMtwbwewC.99
highly spoken about!!!
I'm calling it now but I can see Liverpool making a bid for Austin in Jan.
I'm calling it now but I can see Liverpool making a bid for Austin in Jan.
Wait for the £30m bid from them for Benteke.
£20m..... And we'll sell....😦I'm calling it now but I can see Liverpool making a bid for Austin in Jan.
Wait for the £30m bid from them for Benteke.
Nailed on.
£20m..... And we'll sell....😦I'm calling it now but I can see Liverpool making a bid for Austin in Jan.
Wait for the £30m bid from them for Benteke.
Nailed on.
Charlie Austin scores a penalty and two close range goals from corners against the Tescos, who are garbage, and suddenly he should be in the England squad? No wonder we do naff all at international level.
Charlie Austin scores a penalty and two close range goals from corners against the Tescos, who are garbage, and suddenly he should be in the England squad? No wonder we do naff all at international level.Isn't it more that he should be in the England squad because he has scored considerably more goals than any other English striker in the Premier League? What else should it really be based on?
He wouldn't get the chance to do that from corners against proper international defenders.
He wouldn't get the chance to do that from corners against proper international defenders.
Fair points, gents,but I do think he's a very average player suddenly being talked up after a purple patchBut like I say, he doesn't need to be Alan Shearer to be considered for England at the moment. Average is better than most of the other options, so I can't see any reason why he wouldn't be called up.
I wish a few of our players could have purple patches like Austin is having. It's not like its been a handful of games, he's been lethal for pretty much half a season so him being mentioned in the context of England is hardly a surprise. If we had a player who was the top English goalscorer a lot of us would be saying he should be getting into the England squad.
Next highest English scorers are Berahino 7, Rooney 6, and then Crouch Downing, and Ings with 4. Bit of a no brainer for me that Austin should be in the England squad.
Fair points, gents,but I do think he's a very average player suddenly being talked up after a purple patch
But he's only a goalscorer now. Anyone can have a purple patch but doesn't mean he has the attributes to be a good international player. he scored a nice couple against us but he didn't stand out as an international class player.
But he's only a goalscorer now. Anyone can have a purple patch but doesn't mean he has the attributes to be a good international player. he scored a nice couple against us but he didn't stand out as an international class player.
You could say the same about most of the current England squad.
Aston Villa face a battle to keep defender Aly Cissokho, 27, with Spurs and Napoli showing interest in the Frenchman. (Daily Mirror)
Any player from a club like ours ie outside the rich boys, who plays well on the weekend, gets linked on Monday with a move away. Lazy hacks.
QuoteAston Villa face a battle to keep defender Aly Cissokho, 27, with Spurs and Napoli showing interest in the Frenchman. (Daily Mirror)
Well, that's a bit out of left-field. Ben Davies and a few million then Spurs and he's all yours.
Austin has 11 goals and 3 assists in 15 appearances, including goals against Chavski, Man Citeh. It might be a purple patch he's having, but it's a long one as he has an average of more than a goal a game in his pro career so far. 31 in 54 for Swindon in Division 3, 58 in 113 in Division 2 for Burnley and QPR and now that 11 in 15 in the top flight.
Austin has 11 goals and 3 assists in 15 appearances, including goals against Chavski, Man Citeh. It might be a purple patch he's having, but it's a long one as he has an average of more than a goal a game in his pro career so far. 31 in 54 for Swindon in Division 3, 58 in 113 in Division 2 for Burnley and QPR and now that 11 in 15 in the top flight.
Were we not linked strongly with Austin a couple of seasons ago when he was at Burnley? Didn't he have a medical problem or something like that and it all fizzled out?
Cissokho isn't even good enough to be linked with a move away.Well he clearly is, because he has been.
Cissokho isn't even good enough to be linked with a move away. Strange rumour.
A bit of a tangent, but I'm still undecided as to whether I rate Cissokho or not. I can't remember at any stage of a match thinking that he's done anything particularly well, or particularly badly. I suppose for a full-back that's not a bad thing, although I do think we need to see more form him with the ball if we continue to deploy him as a wing-back.
Cissokho isn't even good enough to be linked with a move away. Strange rumour.
If that's the case, 6 different clubs wouldn't have signed him. He'd still be at his first one.
A bit of a tangent, but I'm still undecided as to whether I rate Cissokho or not. I can't remember at any stage of a match thinking that he's done anything particularly well, or particularly badly. I suppose for a full-back that's not a bad thing, although I do think we need to see more form him with the ball if we continue to deploy him as a wing-back.
He is solid defensively and is capable of putting the odd decent cross in. He is not particularly good in possession, but when you consider what we paid for him and what had before (Bennett, Luna and Stevens) I think he's been a decent bit of business.
Cissokho isn't even good enough to be linked with a move away.Well he clearly is, because he has been.
Cissokho isn't even good enough to be linked with a move away.
Well he clearly is, because he has been.
By James Nursey...
How exactly do you think that this backs up your argument?Cissokho isn't even good enough to be linked with a move away.Well he clearly is, because he has been.
By James Nursey...
Cissokho isn't even good enough to be linked with a move away.Well he clearly is, because he has been.
By James Nursey...
I don't see that as particularly relevant to Villa's January transfers (wink emoticon)
Austin has 11 goals and 3 assists in 15 appearances, including goals against Chavski, Man Citeh. It might be a purple patch he's having, but it's a long one as he has an average of more than a goal a game in his pro career so far. 31 in 54 for Swindon in Division 3, 58 in 113 in Division 2 for Burnley and QPR and now that 11 in 15 in the top flight.
Were we not linked strongly with Austin a couple of seasons ago when he was at Burnley? Didn't he have a medical problem or something like that and it all fizzled out?
That may have started due to his assault charge around that time, which allegedly happened after said victim had accused him of doing drugs in a club toilet cubicle.Austin has 11 goals and 3 assists in 15 appearances, including goals against Chavski, Man Citeh. It might be a purple patch he's having, but it's a long one as he has an average of more than a goal a game in his pro career so far. 31 in 54 for Swindon in Division 3, 58 in 113 in Division 2 for Burnley and QPR and now that 11 in 15 in the top flight.
Were we not linked strongly with Austin a couple of seasons ago when he was at Burnley? Didn't he have a medical problem or something like that and it all fizzled out?
Legend has It that he failed his medical at Hull because of a coke problem.
Austin has 11 goals and 3 assists in 15 appearances, including goals against Chavski, Man Citeh. It might be a purple patch he's having, but it's a long one as he has an average of more than a goal a game in his pro career so far. 31 in 54 for Swindon in Division 3, 58 in 113 in Division 2 for Burnley and QPR and now that 11 in 15 in the top flight.
Were we not linked strongly with Austin a couple of seasons ago when he was at Burnley? Didn't he have a medical problem or something like that and it all fizzled out?
Legend has It that he failed his medical at Hull because of a coke problem.
A bit of a tangent, but I'm still undecided as to whether I rate Cissokho or not. I can't remember at any stage of a match thinking that he's done anything particularly well, or particularly badly. I suppose for a full-back that's not a bad thing, although I do think we need to see more form him with the ball if we continue to deploy him as a wing-back.
Surely after the comedy show of Warnock in his last 18 months, Bennett and Luna you should be happy we have a left back who can actually defend.
Don't see anything in this rumour anyway.
A bit of a tangent, but I'm still undecided as to whether I rate Cissokho or not. I can't remember at any stage of a match thinking that he's done anything particularly well, or particularly badly. I suppose for a full-back that's not a bad thing, although I do think we need to see more form him with the ball if we continue to deploy him as a wing-back.
Surely after the comedy show of Warnock in his last 18 months, Bennett and Luna you should be happy we have a left back who can actually defend.
Don't see anything in this rumour anyway.
Good good.
Good good.
Yep, just hope both can stay off the treatment table for the rest of the season. If we can field a team like the one below on a consistent basis, then hopefully we can put a good run of results together.
Guzan
Okore Vlaar Clark
Hutton Sanchez Delph Cissokho
Cleverley
Benteke Agbonlahor
Subs: Given, Senderos, Bacuna, Richardson, Westwood, Grealish, Weimann
That squad looks pretty solid. A real creative type of player where Cleverley is positioned and a more instinctive striker partnering Benteke (oh for the version of Darren Bent under Houllier) and I think we would be able to kick on.
Good good.
Yep, just hope both can stay off the treatment table for the rest of the season. If we can field a team like the one below on a consistent basis, then hopefully we can put a good run of results together.
Guzan
Okore Vlaar Clark
Hutton Sanchez Delph Cissokho
Cleverley
Benteke Agbonlahor
Subs: Given, Senderos, Bacuna, Richardson, Westwood, Grealish, Weimann
That squad looks pretty solid. A real creative type of player where Cleverley is positioned and a more instinctive striker partnering Benteke (oh for the version of Darren Bent under Houllier) and I think we would be able to kick on.
No N'zogbia? I know that's what we all want, but Paul keeps on persisting with him.
Personally I think Weimann works better off the Beast, but eitherway an upgrade is needed there. I'd have Grealish in the Clev role, but age etc.
It's now £120m that Manure are supposedly ready to offer for Bale. Should we still try and gazump them?No, But they can have Vlaar for £20m.
There's potentially a player there in TC. But any more than 3-4 mill is too much. Could we need get him to sign a pre-contract to join when he's released from Utd?
We need to push him further forward. With a base two of Sanchez and Delph, you can push TC up, see if he can stand out more in a play-making role. He's spent too much time this season lost in games, or doing the same thing as Westwood. He should be getting closer to Benteke, playing in that role Joe Cole would be if his legs weren't made of candy floss.
I was listening to some idiot reporter on Talksport (invariably which is why I was listening to some idiot), proclaiming how completely super ace LVG is because he has taken Man U into the top four. It was his "sheer will to win" apparently and how they should now have 7 straight wins because they could have "easily" won at Villa. At no point was it mentioned that this apparent "sheer will to win" had been combined with a two year spend at the club of around £200m. I wish Villa had that level of "sheer will to win".
I was listening to some idiot reporter on Talksport (invariably which is why I was listening to some idiot), proclaiming how completely super ace LVG is because he has taken Man U into the top four. It was his "sheer will to win" apparently and how they should now have 7 straight wins because they could have "easily" won at Villa. At no point was it mentioned that this apparent "sheer will to win" had been combined with a two year spend at the club of around £200m. I wish Villa had that level of "sheer will to win".
Yep, funny isn't it how the spending of Chelsea and Man City is decried in the media, yet their (and to some extent Liverpool's) spending is never mentioned. Ferguson was a great manager, but it is very rarely mentioned that for most of his tenure at Old Trafford, they were the biggest spenders in the league.
I was listening to some idiot reporter on Talksport (invariably which is why I was listening to some idiot), proclaiming how completely super ace LVG is because he has taken Man U into the top four. It was his "sheer will to win" apparently and how they should now have 7 straight wins because they could have "easily" won at Villa. At no point was it mentioned that this apparent "sheer will to win" had been combined with a two year spend at the club of around £200m. I wish Villa had that level of "sheer will to win".
wait till the summer when he can negotiate his contract to walk straight into the Allianz Arena or similar.
wait till the summer when he can negotiate his contract to walk straight into the Allianz Arena or similar.
You seriously think Bayern Munich will be after Cleverley?
wait till the summer when he can negotiate his contract to walk straight into the Allianz Arena or similar.
You seriously think Bayern Munich will be after Cleverley?
Click me (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/irony)
Or he can follow Reo-Coker who has been a tremendous success at Inter Milan these last 3 years(I assume).wait till the summer when he can negotiate his contract to walk straight into the Allianz Arena or similar.
You seriously think Bayern Munich will be after Cleverley?
Do you really think Westwood wages is the going rate for a player who participated in Man U's last championship winning side and has represented England?Are you kidding ? Lol. He was like an extra in The Ten Commandments .
Do you really think Westwood wages is the going rate for a player who participated in Man U's last championship winning side and has represented England?Are you kidding ? Lol. He was like an extra in The Ten Commandments .
There's a reason Yanited got shot and he's as far away from the England squad as you and I.
Do you really think Westwood wages is the going rate for a player who participated in Man U's last championship winning side and has represented England?Are you kidding ? Lol. He was like an extra in The Ten Commandments .
There's a reason Yanited got shot and he's as far away from the England squad as you and I.
Torres signs to AC Milan.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30612861
Considering on a free Marc picked up a reported 35K a week, Cleverley, a player with a better CV, is going to be about 50K a week I reckon. Madness but it's the mentalism of the current going rate.I wouldn't sign him
Shame. Would love him here for 6 months. No brainer.Torres signs to AC Milan.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30612861
and will immediately be punted out on loan to Atletico
Considering on a free Marc picked up a reported 35K a week, Cleverley, a player with a better CV, is going to be about 50K a week I reckon. Madness but it's the mentalism of the current going rate.I wouldn't sign him
A) because he's not worth it
B) because we are well stocked with this type of player - westwood , Sanchez, Delph, herd, Clark.
Simply put, we need the budget for creative players
Shame. Would love him here for 6 months. No brainer.Torres signs to AC Milan.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30612861
and will immediately be punted out on loan to Atletico
Considering on a free Marc picked up a reported 35K a week, Cleverley, a player with a better CV, is going to be about 50K a week I reckon. Madness but it's the mentalism of the current going rate.I wouldn't sign him
A) because he's not worth it
B) because we are well stocked with this type of player - westwood , Sanchez, Delph, herd, Clark.
Simply put, we need the budget for creative players
I agree with that. Keep him on loan for the rest of the season, but the money could and should be spent on other areas.
...unless he can rediscover that "number ten" quality from days of old.
Shame. Would love him here for 6 months. No brainer.Torres signs to AC Milan.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30612861
and will immediately be punted out on loan to Atletico
Shame. Would love him here for 6 months. No brainer.Torres signs to AC Milan.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30612861
and will immediately be punted out on loan to Atletico
Considering on a free Marc picked up a reported 35K a week, Cleverley, a player with a better CV, is going to be about 50K a week I reckon. Madness but it's the mentalism of the current going rate.
Shame. Would love him here for 6 months. No brainer.Torres signs to AC Milan.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30612861
and will immediately be punted out on loan to Atletico
It would be a no brainer in as much as you'd have to have no brain to consider it
Considering on a free Marc picked up a reported 35K a week, Cleverley, a player with a better CV, is going to be about 50K a week I reckon. Madness but it's the mentalism of the current going rate.
Surely one of the reasons Albrighton got such daft money was that he was signing for a just-promoted club, and clubs like that have to pay over the odds to get players already in the top flight to join them.
Had it been, say, Everton interested in signing him, I don't think they'd have paid that much for a nanosecond.
Considering on a free Marc picked up a reported 35K a week, Cleverley, a player with a better CV, is going to be about 50K a week I reckon. Madness but it's the mentalism of the current going rate.I wouldn't sign him
A) because he's not worth it
B) because we are well stocked with this type of player - westwood , Sanchez, Delph, herd, Clark.
Simply put, we need the budget for creative players
Torres signs to AC Milan.Very sad indeed. A great player who's is about 5 years past his 'best before date".
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30612861
Charlie Nicholas has just said on SSN that Fox has gone and had a word with Lerner about getting some extra funds in the transfer window and thinks he might get something
How does he know this ?
Anyone else heard this ?
Charlie Nicholas has just said on SSN that Fox has gone and had a word with Lerner about getting some extra funds in the transfer window and thinks he might get something
How does he know this ?
Anyone else heard this ?
I sometimes think the Sky pundits know nothing. We can laugh with them (or not) but the knowledge shown is less than a pub conversation.
Charlie Nicholas has just said on SSN that Fox has gone and had a word with Lerner about getting some extra funds in the transfer window and thinks he might get something
How does he know this ?
Anyone else heard this ?
I sometimes think the Sky pundits know nothing. We can laugh with them (or not) but the knowledge shown is less than a pub conversation.
If there is cash available say around £10M we must use it to bring in a quality replacement for Weimann/Agbonlahor. This supporting position for Benteke has to be number one priority.
If there is cash available say around £10M we must use it to bring in a quality replacement for Weimann/Agbonlahor. This supporting position for Benteke has to be number one priority.
As we all know Aftab But does Lambert? I doubt it.
If there is cash available say around £10M we must use it to bring in a quality replacement for Weimann/Agbonlahor. This supporting position for Benteke has to be number one priority.I hate to admit it but I think your right. I really like both players but they are not consistent enough in their game anymore.
Brian Ruiz has premier league experience and out of contract in summer pursuing him and signing him for nominal fee would be great business.
Darren Fletcher and Tomas Rosicky would add solidiraty and flair .
Danny Ings the goals we need.
And a real coup is to move for Javier saviola who contract is expiring and would add the big name and excitement
I feel these players would develop Villa into a more attacking force let's watch this space for these players being signed.
Brian Ruiz has premier league experience and out of contract in summer pursuing him and signing him for nominal fee would be great business.
Darren Fletcher and Tomas Rosicky would add solidiraty and flair .
Danny Ings the goals we need.
And a real coup is to move for Javier saviola who contract is expiring and would add the big name and excitement
I feel these players would develop Villa into a more attacking force let's watch this space for these players being signed.
Brian Ruiz has premier league experience and out of contract in summer pursuing him and signing him for nominal fee would be great business.
Darren Fletcher and Tomas Rosicky would add solidiraty and flair .
Danny Ings the goals we need.
And a real coup is to move for Javier saviola who contract is expiring and would add the big name and excitement
I feel these players would develop Villa into a more attacking force let's watch this space for these players being signed.
I loved Championship Manager too. Where's Freddy Adu these days?
Busy keeping Tony Luna company on the bench at Hellas Verona.Brian Ruiz has premier league experience and out of contract in summer pursuing him and signing him for nominal fee would be great business.
Darren Fletcher and Tomas Rosicky would add solidiraty and flair .
Danny Ings the goals we need.
And a real coup is to move for Javier saviola who contract is expiring and would add the big name and excitement
I feel these players would develop Villa into a more attacking force let's watch this space for these players being signed.
Javier Saviola? Is he still playing? I think I used to sign him on Football Manager ten years ago!
If there is cash available say around £10M we must use it to bring in a quality replacement for Weimann/Agbonlahor. This supporting position for Benteke has to be number one priority.
If there is cash available say around £10M we must use it to bring in a quality replacement for Weimann/Agbonlahor. This supporting position for Benteke has to be number one priority.I hate to admit it but I think your right. I really like both players but they are not consistent enough in their game anymore.
If there is cash available say around £10M we must use it to bring in a quality replacement for Weimann/Agbonlahor. This supporting position for Benteke has to be number one priority.I hate to admit it but I think your right. I really like both players but they are not consistent enough in their game anymore.
Definitely need another option up front, as it seems he is unwilling to try Robinson. There seem to be a number of rumours that Joel Campbell at Arsenal might be avialable in January and he might be worth looking at.
Brian Ruiz has premier league experience and out of contract in summer pursuing him and signing him for nominal fee would be great business.
Darren Fletcher and Tomas Rosicky would add solidiraty and flair .
Danny Ings the goals we need.
And a real coup is to move for Javier saviola who contract is expiring and would add the big name and excitement
I feel these players would develop Villa into a more attacking force let's watch this space for these players being signed.
Zarate and Campbell on loans till the summer would be well worth it. Both would improve our attacking options without huge outlay.
Zarate and Campbell on loans till the summer would be well worth it. Both would improve our attacking options without huge outlay.
"Right get up top next to Benteke, but promise not to score"
isn't Zarate being found out a bit now as well? Hasn't done well enough to hold a permanent place at any club he's been at.
Well I never mentioned Yakubu ! The Yak is wanted by Harry Redknapp QPR if he gets him and Defoe then Zamora would be a good grant Holt type loan option.
isn't Zarate being found out a bit now as well? Hasn't done well enough to hold a permanent place at any club he's been at.
Brian Ruiz has premier league experience and out of contract in summer pursuing him and signing him for nominal fee would be great business.
Darren Fletcher and Tomas Rosicky would add solidiraty and flair .
Danny Ings the goals we need.
And a real coup is to move for Javier saviola who contract is expiring and would add the big name and excitement
I feel these players would develop Villa into a more attacking force let's watch this space for these players being signed.
I loved Championship Manager too. Where's Freddy Adu these days?
Really hope we make a move for Ibrahima Bakayoko and Cherno Samba.
Brian Ruiz has premier league experience and out of contract in summer pursuing him and signing him for nominal fee would be great business.
Darren Fletcher and Tomas Rosicky would add solidiraty and flair .
Danny Ings the goals we need.
And a real coup is to move for Javier saviola who contract is expiring and would add the big name and excitement
I feel these players would develop Villa into a more attacking force let's watch this space for these players being signed.
I loved Championship Manager too. Where's Freddy Adu these days?
Really hope we make a move for Ibrahima Bakayoko and Cherno Samba.
Tonton Zola Moukoko would be the answer to our 'number 10' problem.
Brian Ruiz has premier league experience and out of contract in summer pursuing him and signing him for nominal fee would be great business.
Darren Fletcher and Tomas Rosicky would add solidiraty and flair .
Danny Ings the goals we need.
And a real coup is to move for Javier saviola who contract is expiring and would add the big name and excitement
I feel these players would develop Villa into a more attacking force let's watch this space for these players being signed.
I loved Championship Manager too. Where's Freddy Adu these days?
Really hope we make a move for Ibrahima Bakayoko and Cherno Samba.
Tonton Zola Moukoko would be the answer to our 'number 10' problem.
Everyone knows about him, so we won't have a chance. Kennedy Bakircioglu is the one we should go for.
Or Tarquin Fin-tim-lin-bin-whin-bim-lim-bus-stop-F'tang-F'tang-Olé-BiscuitbarrelBrian Ruiz has premier league experience and out of contract in summer pursuing him and signing him for nominal fee would be great business.
Darren Fletcher and Tomas Rosicky would add solidiraty and flair .
Danny Ings the goals we need.
And a real coup is to move for Javier saviola who contract is expiring and would add the big name and excitement
I feel these players would develop Villa into a more attacking force let's watch this space for these players being signed.
I loved Championship Manager too. Where's Freddy Adu these days?
Really hope we make a move for Ibrahima Bakayoko and Cherno Samba.
Tonton Zola Moukoko would be the answer to our 'number 10' problem.
Everyone knows about him, so we won't have a chance. Kennedy Bakircioglu is the one we should go for.
Or Tarquin Fin-tim-lin-bin-whin-bim-lim-bus-stop-F'tang-F'tang-Olé-BiscuitbarrelBrian Ruiz has premier league experience and out of contract in summer pursuing him and signing him for nominal fee would be great business.
Darren Fletcher and Tomas Rosicky would add solidiraty and flair .
Danny Ings the goals we need.
And a real coup is to move for Javier saviola who contract is expiring and would add the big name and excitement
I feel these players would develop Villa into a more attacking force let's watch this space for these players being signed.
I loved Championship Manager too. Where's Freddy Adu these days?
Really hope we make a move for Ibrahima Bakayoko and Cherno Samba.
Tonton Zola Moukoko would be the answer to our 'number 10' problem.
Everyone knows about him, so we won't have a chance. Kennedy Bakircioglu is the one we should go for.
We need some unorthodoxy to spice things up.
Brian Ruiz has premier league experience and out of contract in summer pursuing him and signing him for nominal fee would be great business.
Darren Fletcher and Tomas Rosicky would add solidiraty and flair .
Danny Ings the goals we need.
And a real coup is to move for Javier saviola who contract is expiring and would add the big name and excitement
I feel these players would develop Villa into a more attacking force let's watch this space for these players being signed.
I loved Championship Manager too. Where's Freddy Adu these days?
Really hope we make a move for Ibrahima Bakayoko and Cherno Samba.
Tonton Zola Moukoko would be the answer to our 'number 10' problem.
If we're going to sign Cleverley, why don't we wait until he's free at the end of the season?
I realise this means that he could go to another team, but that's a chance I'd be willing to take.
If we're going to sign Cleverley, why don't we wait until he's free at the end of the season?
I realise this means that he could go to another team, but that's a chance I'd be willing to take.
Somebody said on another thread, presumably what we say to Cleverley if we really want him is we can either give ManYoo £7m for you in January, or we could just wait until July and we give you half of that transfer fee that we've just saved.If we're going to sign Cleverley, why don't we wait until he's free at the end of the season?
I realise this means that he could go to another team, but that's a chance I'd be willing to take.
I think I would as well.
It makes perfect sense. If he then chooses to go elsewhere is it really a great loss? I don't think so.If we're going to sign Cleverley, why don't we wait until he's free at the end of the season?
I realise this means that he could go to another team, but that's a chance I'd be willing to take.
I think I would as well.
I certainly wouldn't mind Aaron Lennon on loan. Might be the answer to the wing problem.Our manager does not like wingers.
International twit of the year no less!Or Tarquin Fin-tim-lin-bin-whin-bim-lim-bus-stop-F'tang-F'tang-Olé-BiscuitbarrelBrian Ruiz has premier league experience and out of contract in summer pursuing him and signing him for nominal fee would be great business.
Darren Fletcher and Tomas Rosicky would add solidiraty and flair .
Danny Ings the goals we need.
And a real coup is to move for Javier saviola who contract is expiring and would add the big name and excitement
I feel these players would develop Villa into a more attacking force let's watch this space for these players being signed.
I loved Championship Manager too. Where's Freddy Adu these days?
Really hope we make a move for Ibrahima Bakayoko and Cherno Samba.
Tonton Zola Moukoko would be the answer to our 'number 10' problem.
Everyone knows about him, so we won't have a chance. Kennedy Bakircioglu is the one we should go for.
Not even in the Wigan team at the moment, nor Mcmanaman who I foolishly thought looked decent at one point.
Not even in the Wigan team at the moment, nor Mcmanaman who I foolishly thought looked decent at one point.
I reckon obion should come in for cleverly. He suits them perfectly.Agreed he is Pulis type of player especially in dead ball situations.
I think Townsend would be a great shout - he seemed unstoppable for a couple of months last season - especially for England.Agreed worth a shout, but Lambert doesn't seem to like wingers.
I'm not sure how bad his injuries were; but assuming they're not career threatening/limiting, he'd be worth taking a punt on outright.
Yaya Sanogo...?
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/arsenal-transfer-plan-yaya-sanogo-4900410
I think Townsend would be a great shout - he seemed unstoppable for a couple of months last season - especially for England.
I'm not sure how bad his injuries were; but assuming they're not career threatening/limiting, he'd be worth taking a punt on outright.
Just a hunch but I reckon Man. United will put Johnny Evans up for sale at the end of the season and we'll be in the mix to sign him as a sort of Vlaar replacement.
He's not that bad, I'd be fairly happy with him.
Just a hunch but I reckon Man. United will put Johnny Evans up for sale at the end of the season and we'll be in the mix to sign him as a sort of Vlaar replacement.
He's not that bad, I'd be fairly happy with him.
Don't forget Premier League rule 147B that gives Sunderland first option on any United centre half.
Two new midfielders with some creativity please and both of them should have the native language of spanish or portuguese.
Two new midfielders with some creativity please and both of them should have the native language of spanish or portuguese.
It's not midfielders we need, it's players who can do the job that Gabby and Weimann are supposed to do, as links between midfield and attack, offering an outlet for the midfield and capable of getting shots away or committing men and getting balls into the box for Benteke. Right now they're doing almost nothing for the side, not because they're bad players but because they're just not suited to the role. They should be offering an option as a 2nd striker, weimann more at home and gabby more away but Lambert just can't see it.
No point in giving Lambert any more money. It'll be wasted as any potential will be coached out of them.
One of the depressing aspects of the Lambert era is the realisation that any player that shows consistent signs of being anything special is not long for the club. I don't expect anything stupid like Sanchez to leave next week, but players like him and Okore must be casting envious glances elsewhere even at this early stage of their time here.One of my fears exactly.
Two new midfielders with some creativity please and both of them should have the native language of spanish or portuguese.
It's not midfielders we need, it's players who can do the job that Gabby and Weimann are supposed to do, as links between midfield and attack, offering an outlet for the midfield and capable of getting shots away or committing men and getting balls into the box for Benteke. Right now they're doing almost nothing for the side, not because they're bad players but because they're just not suited to the role. They should be offering an option as a 2nd striker, weimann more at home and gabby more away but Lambert just can't see it.
There is no point in buying any players in January unless you are in real trouble. We are not and will stay up comfortably. So better to wait till end of the season when Lambert is gone and Tim Sherwood oops sorry I mean new Manager can buy the players he needs.
I think it'll be as you were to be honest. About 15th, safe with a few games to spare, but still a little too close for comfort.There is no point in buying any players in January unless you are in real trouble. We are not and will stay up comfortably. So better to wait till end of the season when Lambert is gone and Tim Sherwood oops sorry I mean new Manager can buy the players he needs.
I agree that we will stay up but I am not sure about 'comfortably'. I hope you are right and I'm wrong.
Yesterday's game made me remember Robbie Keane's loan move when he was getting frustrated at his teammates lack of movement. We still haven't resolved that and its been going on for too long.
Two new midfielders with some creativity please and both of them should have the native language of spanish or portuguese.
It's not midfielders we need, it's players who can do the job that Gabby and Weimann are supposed to do, as links between midfield and attack, offering an outlet for the midfield and capable of getting shots away or committing men and getting balls into the box for Benteke. Right now they're doing almost nothing for the side, not because they're bad players but because they're just not suited to the role. They should be offering an option as a 2nd striker, weimann more at home and gabby more away but Lambert just can't see it.
Totally agree. Assuming noone leaves (though I think we should consider offers for Vlaar), then we don't need defenders or midfielders. What we really need are two players to take the place of Agbonlahor and Weimann who create. Agbonlahor and Weimann should currently be impact subs at best.
Caught up on Sky+ on the Xmas Football League Shows. I think we should test Norwich's resolve for Bradley Johnson - would add some pace to our centre midfield & join in the attack.
Pienaar is injured. As soon as he's fit I reckon Everton will want him in their side.
Timmy Cahill would be our lampard type signing . he is all time top scorer for his national teamLet's get David Healy in as well then if that's what we're looking for in a player.
Young lad in club shop said we are supposed to be giving trial to out of favour Italian player, he didn't have a nameToto Schillachi
Young lad in club shop said we are supposed to be giving trial to out of favour Italian player, he didn't have a nameWe were linked with Pazzini last summer. Who fits the bill above.
Young lad in club shop said we are supposed to be giving trial to out of favour Italian player, he didn't have a nameWe were linked with Pazzini last summer. Who fits the bill above.
But I can't imagine we're giving lists of transfer targets to the kid on the till in the club shop.
Young lad in club shop said we are supposed to be giving trial to out of favour Italian player, he didn't have a nameMario Balotelli obviously.
Balotelli and benteke both in form would be pretty good to see. I think we are more likely to sign the chap forest did at the start of the premier league!
I don't think he's actually suggesting we sign a 48 year old.Balotelli and benteke both in form would be pretty good to see. I think we are more likely to sign the chap forest did at the start of the premier league!
Silenzi? Wasn't he utter crap over here?
Are you sure it wasn't Grealish's part time job on the side?Young lad in club shop said we are supposed to be giving trial to out of favour Italian player, he didn't have a nameWe were linked with Pazzini last summer. Who fits the bill above.
But I can't imagine we're giving lists of transfer targets to the kid on the till in the club shop.
He was very pleasant, so credit for that
Cleverley is utterly unremarkable.
If we really spend 7m on him, I'll be incredibly disappointed.
I wouldn't even want us to take him on a free, he is utterly anonymous, I just don't see the point in him.
Aston Villa goal drought will make no difference to Paul Lambert's January transfer plans
It's a no go: Lambert has no interest in taking Arsenal striker Yaya Sanogo on loan and will not panic buy to boost Villa's dismal scoring tally
Jan 02, 2015 19:00 By Gregg Evans
Aston Villa will not be panic-buying in the transfer window despite the continued troubles in front of goal.
Boss Paul Lambert is expecting a relatively quiet month and he insists that the recent goal drought will not change the club’s plans.
Arsenal striker Yaya Sanogo has been linked with a loan move but those reports are wide of the mark.
Villa are currently focusing on other options and Lambert expects to receive Randy Lerner’s backing if he can identify a reasonably-priced target.
“What you have to watch out for is that you don’t get caught paying well over the top in January,” said Lambert.
“It’s impossible for us to do that but I know Randy will help if he can.
“If it’s not going to hurt the club and we think it will help us, we will look into it.
“You always try to improve in the window if you can.”
While Sanogo is not a player currently on Villa’s wishlist, the club may decide to pursue other temporary deals similar to this time last term.
Grant Holt and Ryan Bertrand both arrived on season-long loan deals last January and Lambert is closely monitoring a number of potential options.
Turning Tom Cleverley’s loan deal into a permanent move is also a decision that Villa must make this month.
They have the Manchester United midfielder until the end of the season at least anyway, but if January passes without an agreement on his long-term future, he could move for nothing to another club when he becomes a free agent in the summer.
Big-money arrivals like that of Darren Bent in 2011 are now a thing of the the past and it’s unlikely Villa will be breaking the bank this month.
However injuries and suspensions have left the claret and blues light on numbers at times this term so Lambert is keen to strengthen his squad.
Yesterday's game made me remember Robbie Keane's loan move when he was getting frustrated at his teammates lack of movement. We still haven't resolved that and its been going on for too long.
It said everything a few years back when we signed Keane on loan and he looked a class above what else we had in the team in terms of technique and creative ability.
This was a Robbie Keane at the time who was 5 years past his peak at Spurs.
Joe Cole looked similar at Burnley.
It's incredible the complete lack of central technicians we've had in the last 4 years compared to pretty much every other regular premier league team.
Tottenham are set to offload midfielder Paulinho, 26, with Brazilian club Cruzeiro a likely destination, while 27-year-old winger Aaron Lennon could also leave if any club meets his asking price of £7m. (Daily Mirror)we need width? worth a go. I'm not a massive fan, but he'd be a better use of £7mil than Cleverley.
Lennon would be a decent shout.
Can he beat the ridiculous signing of grant Holt?Nikola Zigic available from our neighbours and he is only 34?
We don't need Silenz at Villa Park.Balotelli and benteke both in form would be pretty good to see. I think we are more likely to sign the chap forest did at the start of the premier league!
Silenzi? Wasn't he utter crap over here?
I suspect we will sign nobody.
Have we been linked with No Juan yet?
Out of curiosity, when was the last transfer window when he signed literally nobody?
Can he beat the ridiculous signing of grant Holt?Yes by signing him a second time and I honestly half expect it.
Out of curiosity, when was the last transfer window when he signed literally nobody?
So, Vlaar to Napoli, £2m.....apparent done deal but not sure if he goes in January or at the end of the season.
So, Vlaar to Napoli, £2m.....apparent done deal but not sure if he goes in January or at the end of the season.
Rafa Benitez has set his sights on the Dutch international to strengthen his back four at the Stadio San Paolo - and according to Il Mattino newspaper, Vlaar is ready for the move.
It now remains to be seen whether he will move immediately, or in June when his contract with Villa expires.
Napoli have offered to pay at most €2m for the player, with a contract worth €1.7m per season plus add-ons.
Manchester United have also been linked with the 29-year-old.
There is thought to be one major obstacle, as Napoli must first sell Paulo Henrique to Internacional in Brazil.
So, Vlaar to Napoli, £2m.....apparent done deal but not sure if he goes in January or at the end of the season.
Where have you heard that?
[/quotehttps://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/serie-rumour-napoli-agree-deal-ron-vlaar-095819684--sow.htmlSo, Vlaar to Napoli, £2m.....apparent done deal but not sure if he goes in January or at the end of the season.
Where have you heard that?
So, Vlaar to Napoli, £2m.....apparent done deal but not sure if he goes in January or at the end of the season.
If a fee is involved surely it would be Jan?
Eurosport siteQuoteRafa Benitez has set his sights on the Dutch international to strengthen his back four at the Stadio San Paolo - and according to Il Mattino newspaper, Vlaar is ready for the move.
It now remains to be seen whether he will move immediately, or in June when his contract with Villa expires.
Napoli have offered to pay at most €2m for the player, with a contract worth €1.7m per season plus add-ons.
Manchester United have also been linked with the 29-year-old.
There is thought to be one major obstacle, as Napoli must first sell Paulo Henrique to Internacional in Brazil.
I don't believe Vlaar is even injured.
I'd keep him.
Any fee we'd get is a drop in the ocean, compared to the difference in prize money between finishing 17th and 13th.
and I think we're far more likely to finish higher, keeping one of the more experienced players we have.
The way Clark and Baker have stepped up, the out right quality that Okore has and how surprisingly good Senderos has been, we wouldn't miss him.
Do live on here Toronto? It's a known fact players feign injury, get sent off to miss certain matches,get booked on managers orders sometimes. I personally believe that Vlaar is desparate for a move and may 'conveniently' be sidelined for the month.I don't. I think he is a player who has had a poor injury record and probably always will. If that wasn't a real injury he ought to try his luck in Hollywood because he has me convinced.
Do live on here Toronto? It's a known fact players feign injury, get sent off to miss certain matches,get booked on managers orders sometimes. I personally believe that Vlaar is desparate for a move and may 'conveniently' be sidelined for the month.How exactly does one go about faking an injury for a month? Does he just tell the medical team that he's done his knee in and they take his word for it rather than doing any tests?
Young lad in club shop said we are supposed to be giving trial to out of favour Italian player, he didn't have a nameWe were linked with Pazzini last summer. Who fits the bill above.
But I can't imagine we're giving lists of transfer targets to the kid on the till in the club shop.
Do live on here Toronto? It's a known fact players feign injury, get sent off to miss certain matches,get booked on managers orders sometimes. I personally believe that Vlaar is desparate for a move and may 'conveniently' be sidelined for the month.How exactly does one go about faking an injury for a month? Does he just tell the medical team that he's done his knee in and they take his word for it rather than doing any tests?
Can he beat the ridiculous signing of grant Holt?Yes, Yes he can and probably will.
Ron doesn't strike me as the sort of person who would ever fake an injury. He may well want a move but he's the sort who would go about things the right way and bide his time. He's just injury prone. No conspiracy.Do live on here Toronto? It's a known fact players feign injury, get sent off to miss certain matches,get booked on managers orders sometimes. I personally believe that Vlaar is desparate for a move and may 'conveniently' be sidelined for the month.I don't. I think he is a player who has had a poor injury record and probably always will. If that wasn't a real injury he ought to try his luck in Hollywood because he has me convinced.
So. You believe every injury that allegedly your told about.?No but in those situations it suits both the club and the player to play along. In your scenario the only one who could benefit is vlaar, why on earth would the club do so here? There's no logic to your theory.
In Vlaar's case yes he has a problem, I'm sure he could/has played on it, I personally believe its not as bad as were led to believe. Vlaar expected Man U to call in the summer I believe he has sulked ever since.
Danish sports channel (viasat 3) are reporting that Napoli have made a formal enquiry about taking him in January.
Can I claim this as ITK?Danish sports channel (viasat 3) are reporting that Napoli have made a formal enquiry about taking him in January.
Can I claim this as ITK?Danish sports channel (viasat 3) are reporting that Napoli have made a formal enquiry about taking him in January.
Sorry its not clear who they are enquiring about. That Arsenal player or one of ours?
Can I claim this as ITK?Danish sports channel (viasat 3) are reporting that Napoli have made a formal enquiry about taking him in January.
Sorry its not clear who they are enquiring about. That Arsenal player or one of ours?
they have inquired about Vlaar. A fee has apparently been agreed according to the report. Nothing "Concrete" in the story though i.e no quotes to confirm what is being alleged.
Agreed. It would be very good. We have been fortunate the rest of our CB's have stepped up to cushion him leaving if he does.
I am terrified by Lamberts comments alluding to not spending much this window though. I would class our creative attacking midfielder problem as a crisis we need to be panic buying for. The idea of ending this window without new faces there would be terrifying.
You would, I would, most people with eyes would.
But be prepared to be terrified come February.
The bloke is always injured. Take what we can get and sell him. Same with Delph.Kind of agree but suspect we will need Delph in the relegation dogfight that is on the horizon.
Our squad maybe. But it is two to three players (minimum) ready to come into the first team that we really need.
Two players starting in place of Gabby and Weimann that can provide a bit of craft and guile, and an all-round central midfielder.
Our squad maybe. But it is two to three players (minimum) ready to come into the first team that we really need.
Two players starting in place of Gabby and Weimann that can provide a bit of craft and guile, and an all-round central midfielder.
That's what we need of course. Judging by previous Januarys we'll get a totally underwhelming loan signing or two and maybe a player from a lower division somewhere in Europe who'll be moved on within 18 months.
Useless player.Our squad maybe. But it is two to three players (minimum) ready to come into the first team that we really need.
Two players starting in place of Gabby and Weimann that can provide a bit of craft and guile, and an all-round central midfielder.
That's what we need of course. Judging by previous Januarys we'll get a totally underwhelming loan signing or two and maybe a player from a lower division somewhere in Europe who'll be moved on within 18 months.
Someone who had the same effect as Sylla, even unintentionally, would do us fine.
He wasn't at all useless that first season. He was a bit crap last season mind.
Do live on here Toronto? It's a known fact players feign injury, get sent off to miss certain matches,get booked on managers orders sometimes. I personally believe that Vlaar is desparate for a move and may 'conveniently' be sidelined for the month.How exactly does one go about faking an injury for a month? Does he just tell the medical team that he's done his knee in and they take his word for it rather than doing any tests?
Ger, disappointed in your scepticism. I think you'll what happens is that during a game he decides to fake tearing a muscle or ligament. He then manages to con the high tech equipment providing the MRI's and various other scans into reporting an injury that isn't there, therefore duping the independent medical staff as well as team doctors, the manager, trainers etc. Having done that is able to continue being paid until such time he can come back and start the process all over again.
No. We have biscuits.What?
No. We have biscuits.
No. We have biscuits.
The mods take it in turns to bake them. They taste horrible. We can't even get biscuits right. We do all sometimes whistle along to the same happy tune. But only on the rare occasion we all remember to take our medication.
The medication tastes horrible as well.
TBAR tends to be the place where posters who abuse our messaging system end up.
TBAR tends to be the place where posters who abuse our messaging system end up.
How is it that your clique all agree with each other on most subjects? Looking back through a few threads, it seems you have all started spouting stuff that you were all dead against a couple of years ago.
TBAR tends to be the place where posters who abuse our messaging system end up.
How is it that your clique all agree with each other on most subjects? Looking back through a few threads, it seems you have all started spouting stuff that you were all dead against a couple of years ago.
Scott Sinclair could be on his way to Aston Villa as Paul Lambert eyes loan move for forgotten Manchester City winger
Aston Villa, QPR and Crystal Palace all interested in Man City winger
Out-of-favour Sinclair would prefer a loan move to Aston Villa
By SIMON JONES FOR MAILONLINE
PUBLISHED: 00:33, 4 January 2015 | UPDATED: 00:33, 4 January 2015
Aston Villa have made a move to sign Manchester City misfit Scott Sinclair on loan.
The 25-year-old has interest from QPR, Crystal Palace and Norwich but is leaning towards a move to Villa Park.
Sinclair has made four appearances this season, each as a late substitute, and is eager to get his career back on track.
He had an ill-fated loan spell with West Bromwich Albion last season but hopes to have better fortune with Paul Lambert.
You got my PM to come to the thread then chaps. :)
Daily Heil (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2895834/Scott-Sinclair-way-Aston-Villa-Paul-Lambert-eyes-loan-forgotten-Manchester-City-winger.html)QuoteScott Sinclair could be on his way to Aston Villa as Paul Lambert eyes loan move for forgotten Manchester City winger
Aston Villa, QPR and Crystal Palace all interested in Man City winger
Out-of-favour Sinclair would prefer a loan move to Aston Villa
By SIMON JONES FOR MAILONLINE
PUBLISHED: 00:33, 4 January 2015 | UPDATED: 00:33, 4 January 2015
Aston Villa have made a move to sign Manchester City misfit Scott Sinclair on loan.
The 25-year-old has interest from QPR, Crystal Palace and Norwich but is leaning towards a move to Villa Park.
Sinclair has made four appearances this season, each as a late substitute, and is eager to get his career back on track.
He had an ill-fated loan spell with West Bromwich Albion last season but hopes to have better fortune with Paul Lambert.
Daily Heil (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2895834/Scott-Sinclair-way-Aston-Villa-Paul-Lambert-eyes-loan-forgotten-Manchester-City-winger.html)QuoteScott Sinclair could be on his way to Aston Villa as Paul Lambert eyes loan move for forgotten Manchester City winger
Aston Villa, QPR and Crystal Palace all interested in Man City winger
Out-of-favour Sinclair would prefer a loan move to Aston Villa
By SIMON JONES FOR MAILONLINE
PUBLISHED: 00:33, 4 January 2015 | UPDATED: 00:33, 4 January 2015
Aston Villa have made a move to sign Manchester City misfit Scott Sinclair on loan.
The 25-year-old has interest from QPR, Crystal Palace and Norwich but is leaning towards a move to Villa Park.
Sinclair has made four appearances this season, each as a late substitute, and is eager to get his career back on track.
He had an ill-fated loan spell with West Bromwich Albion last season but hopes to have better fortune with Paul Lambert.
Be fair people, panic buying means over spending on players. Yes there is a dire need for a creative player but surely we'd not condone him recklessly throwing cash at any player who falls under the 'creative' category? If you do, then it would be unfair to later trash the player or Lambert if the player does not meet expectations. That's logical isn't it?
Benteke linked with Man City too. Swap shock on the cards? Good God I hope not!! Just as we are thinking of bringing in proper wingers we sell our best striker! Please no!
Cant think of a better club to be interested in Benteke than Man City They would pay well over the odds without a second thought. BentekeSell in summer when we are safe . Not now.
isnt going to progress unless he moves on and we need the funds to buy two or three players to give us some kind of impetus.
Benteke linked with Man City too. Swap shock on the cards? Good God I hope not!! Just as we are thinking of bringing in proper wingers we sell our best striker! Please no!I ignore most the media transfers stories relating to comings and goings at Villa. I especially ignore the 'winger' coming stuff, since when has a Lambert shown any inclination to start with wide players? Albrighton was only picked because we had run out of available options.
Re the Vlaar report, wouldn't the wages reportedly offered constitute a drop in salary, hardly likely to go for that is he?I remember reading once upon a time that wages in the UK are always reported as pre-tax, but on the continent tend to be reported as net of tax.
We need 2 wide forwards. Swansea form Sinclair is miles better than Gabby or Weimann and actually plays that position. City form and it's pointless.
If they genuinely want Benteke we should say it's £40 million or he's going nowhere.
Benteke linked with Man City too. Swap shock on the cards? Good God I hope not!! Just as we are thinking of bringing in proper wingers we sell our best striker! Please no!Which bit of Pellegrini's comment "we will not make any signings in January due to FFP constraints" has not registered with those linking him to City?
Spot on they cant afford to pay £30/£40m out for one player due to FFP, The only way around it would be a swop deal involving several of their playersBenteke linked with Man City too. Swap shock on the cards? Good God I hope not!! Just as we are thinking of bringing in proper wingers we sell our best striker! Please no!Which bit of Pellegrini's comment "we will not make any signings in January due to FFP constraints" has not registered with those linking him to City?
Ok. Toure , arguero and Sinclair then + zaballetta and £7.25m cashSpot on they cant afford to pay £30/£40m out for one player due to FFP, The only way around it would be a swop deal involving several of their playersBenteke linked with Man City too. Swap shock on the cards? Good God I hope not!! Just as we are thinking of bringing in proper wingers we sell our best striker! Please no!Which bit of Pellegrini's comment "we will not make any signings in January due to FFP constraints" has not registered with those linking him to City?
Linked in one paper today with a £4m move for Jonny Williams from Palace.
Linked in one paper today with a £4m move for Jonny Williams from Palace.
Linked in one paper today with a £4m move for Jonny Williams from Palace.
He's shit.
Cant think of a better club to be interested in Benteke than Man City They would pay well over the odds without a second thought. BentekeSell in summer when we are safe . Not now.
isnt going to progress unless he moves on and we need the funds to buy two or three players to give us some kind of impetus.
Trying to spend £40m or whatever the fig is in January silly season would be painful.
Brian Ruiz and Matt Gervais would be alternative signings to the Sinclair move. I think Ruiz would move this window.
Linked with a 10 mil move to Arse a couple of years ago and was on loan at Ipswich until recently where he was a big favourite ( apparently ) , scorer of their 'Goal-of-the-Season' last term , I think it was his only goal though ................Godzvilla!Linked in one paper today with a £4m move for Jonny Williams from Palace.
He's shit.
Never heard of him. What makes you think he is shit?
Brian Ruiz and Matt Gervais would be alternative signings to the Sinclair move. I think Ruiz would move this window.
Linked in one paper today with a £4m move for Jonny Williams from Palace.
He's shit.
Never heard of him. What makes you think he is shit?
Going back to the Scott Sinclair rumours, if there is any truth in it why is it only on loan? Surely he can't cost that much to buy now and Man City hardly ever use him do they?
Aston Villa and West Ham have joined the list of clubs interested in Swansea City striker Bafetimbi Gomis, according to reports in France.
Cleverley is truly abysmal.
I swear we were linked with him about 5-6 years ago when O Neill was here. Not sure I rate him, but he's able to play through the middle and wide, and would probably be an improvement over Weimann or a half-assed Gabby.QuoteAston Villa and West Ham have joined the list of clubs interested in Swansea City striker Bafetimbi Gomis, according to reports in France.
Better than getting Grant Holt back.
He's only scored 1 league goal hasn't he?He's certainly not scored many, but he's also barely played with Bony doing all of their 'lone striker' stuff. I'm pretty sure that's the reason he wants to leave.
I swear we were linked with him about 5-6 years ago when O Neill was here. Not sure I rate him, but he's able to play through the middle and wide, and would probably be an improvement over Weimann or a half-assed Gabby.QuoteAston Villa and West Ham have joined the list of clubs interested in Swansea City striker Bafetimbi Gomis, according to reports in France.
Better than getting Grant Holt back.
Nov 10, 2010 16:59:00
Aston Villa manager Gerard Houllier has indicated that he is interested in bringing Bafetimbi Gomis to the club to replace John Carew, according to the Daily Star and others.
He's only scored 1 league goal hasn't he?He's certainly not scored many, but he's also barely played with Bony doing all of their 'lone striker' stuff. I'm pretty sure that's the reason he wants to leave.
Nah, it's 沒有人 that we're after/
Nah, it's 沒有人 that we're after/
Its Nikto from Russia
According to the Mirror Spuds going to offer £3m for Delph, If he has no interest in signing a new deal i'd take the money
According to the Mirror Spuds going to offer £3m for Delph, If he has no interest in signing a new deal i'd take the money
If they offer us Aaron Lennon and £3million I'd take it.
According to the Mirror Spuds going to offer £3m for Delph, If he has no interest in signing a new deal i'd take the money
£3million? Not a hope. The price of relegation is a bit more than £3-twatting-million.
£3million? Not a hope. The price of relegation is a bit more than £3-twatting-million.
he hasn't played that much this season, with injury and suspension
True, but he's by some distance our best midfielder when fit, and we don't know yet how much we may need him. £3m won't replace him any better than £0 would, in my view, so we might as well just keep him for as long as we can.
True, but he's by some distance our best midfielder when fit, and we don't know yet how much we may need him. £3m won't replace him any better than £0 would, in my view, so we might as well just keep him for as long as we can.I take your point but on the other hand how much use will he be if he genuinely doesn't want to be here? It's a difficult problem. Particularly as £3M could be the difference between mediocre and half decent.
True, but he's by some distance our best midfielder when fit, and we don't know yet how much we may need him. £3m won't replace him any better than £0 would, in my view, so we might as well just keep him for as long as we can.I take your point but on the other hand how much use will he be if he genuinely doesn't want to be here? It's a difficult problem. Particularly as £3M could be the difference between mediocre and half decent.
I'm not convinced £3m would really make that difference though. If we wanted a really good player for £12m, but the club wanted £15m, I really doubt the chairman would be shaking is head until suddenly brightening up and saying 'Of course! We sold Fabian Delph!'. Cheap sarcasm aside, I'm just not sure that's how the transfer funds would work.
As to his motivation, Delph never really struck me as some moping Anelka, whinging and sulking until he gets his way. He's a very good professional, and if he's leaving anyway then there's nothing to sulk against. In fact, he's played perfectly well - when fit - since it became apparent that he'd probably leave come May. All in all, I think it would be better to have him for four and a half months than to have £3m.
True, but he's by some distance our best midfielder when fit, and we don't know yet how much we may need him. £3m won't replace him any better than £0 would, in my view, so we might as well just keep him for as long as we can.I take your point but on the other hand how much use will he be if he genuinely doesn't want to be here? It's a difficult problem. Particularly as £3M could be the difference between mediocre and half decent.
The rebuttal of that is that nothing is officially agreed yet (even if agents have been talking) so fucking about and not putting in the effort could put a summer move at risk and he's not yet established enough with England to be guaranteed a place regardless of form so if he has international ambitions he can't really afford to risk those by playing like a chump for 6 months. I genuinely can't see a situation where we'd be better letting him go that doesn't involve a player coming the other way. Without that (and it being a player who wants to come and who will improve us) we're better off keeping him on the grounds that the summer will be 6months closer to a takeover and new manager and we just need to keep the side as strong as possible until those events occur.
I'm not convinced £3m would really make that difference though. If we wanted a really good player for £12m, but the club wanted £15m, I really doubt the chairman would be shaking is head until suddenly brightening up and saying 'Of course! We sold Fabian Delph!'. Cheap sarcasm aside, I'm just not sure that's how the transfer funds would work.What I mean is that the £3M could be the difference between a Cissokho and a Sanchez. Notwithstanding the fact that we're not in the market for a £12M player, you're right that £3M wouldn't make a difference but at the level we seem to be stuck at it would be.
As to his motivation, Delph never really struck me as some moping Anelka, whinging and sulking until he gets his way. He's a very good professional, and if he's leaving anyway then there's nothing to sulk against. In fact, he's played perfectly well - when fit - since it became apparent that he'd probably leave come May. All in all, I think it would be better to have him for four and a half months than to have £3m.
French papers reporting we are after Bordeaux's Algerian attacking midfielder Terrib Leshit.
They may have loads of them, but Delph is probably better than anybody else that Spurs seem to have there at the moment.True, but he's by some distance our best midfielder when fit, and we don't know yet how much we may need him. £3m won't replace him any better than £0 would, in my view, so we might as well just keep him for as long as we can.
Agreed. Why would Spurs want another midfielder to the countless number they already have? It's not as if Levy will be able to offload that many due to the price they ask for players.
They may have loads of them, but Delph is probably better than anybody else that Spurs seem to have there at the moment.True, but he's by some distance our best midfielder when fit, and we don't know yet how much we may need him. £3m won't replace him any better than £0 would, in my view, so we might as well just keep him for as long as we can.
Agreed. Why would Spurs want another midfielder to the countless number they already have? It's not as if Levy will be able to offload that many due to the price they ask for players.
Lambert's looking to tempt Swiss ace Andre Muff out of retirement, but is concerned about his diving record. Also rumoured to be looking at Andreas Wank, who Paul believes always copes well with the sticky No 10 job in hand.
What I mean is that the £3M could be the difference between a Cissokho and a Sanchez. Notwithstanding the fact that we're not in the market for a £12M player, you're right that £3M wouldn't make a difference but at the level we seem to be stuck at it would be.
I agree with Paul though, I think that the best option for us would be to take a player in exchange. That way we'll get more for our money. We could get double value for store credit, as it were.
Delph may be playing well now but if he wants to go in January and we block him it could be a different story. As was always said in defence of us continually losing our best players, there's little point in keeping someone if they really want to go.
Delph was certainly excellent last season, however I'm struggling to think of a game this season where he's been particularly impressive. For me he's gone from indispensable to replaceable, especially now we have Sanchez. We don't really need an all action type, now we need someone with a bit more guile in the final third. As much as I like delph, he doesn't do that often enough.
He is someone we should have tried to tie down a long time ago.
Delph was certainly excellent last season, however I'm struggling to think of a game this season where he's been particularly impressive. For me he's gone from indispensable to replaceable, especially now we have Sanchez. We don't really need an all action type, now we need someone with a bit more guile in the final third. As much as I like delph, he doesn't do that often enough.
This might be a biased opinion but I think Benteke is better than Bony. Bony Is a good finisher but I haven't seen him create his own goals the way Benteke has at times.
If he's £25m I'd be wanting £30m for Benteke.
I thought Man City had some serious FFP issues? Weren't they handed a fine and a transfer ban?
I thought Man City had some serious FFP issues? Weren't they handed a fine and a transfer ban?
The cynic in me thinks a Man City reserve, like Sinclair for instance, might be on his way to Swansea in a swap and be valued by both clubs at a rather unrealistic figure.If that were to help balance Man City's books (and mean that they didn't have to give as much actual cash to Swansea), why would Swansea agree to that?
This might be a biased opinion but I think Benteke is better than Bony. Bony Is a good finisher but I haven't seen him create his own goals the way Benteke has at times.
If he's £25m I'd be wanting £30m for Benteke.
Maybe some money will exchange hands if you know what I mean.Not really, no.
This might be a biased opinion but I think Benteke is better than Bony. Bony Is a good finisher but I haven't seen him create his own goals the way Benteke has at times.
If he's £25m I'd be wanting £30m for Benteke.
I wish we'd been a bit braver and gone for Bony ourselves that summer, I think he'd have been excellent alongside Benteke.
that will be a good deal for both sides. Swansea will pocket the good part of 25m I imagine and Bony has proven himself in the PL. He was a very a good signing for Swansea, a bit like what people say when we sell Benteke unfortunately.
Delph was certainly excellent last season, however I'm struggling to think of a game this season where he's been particularly impressive. For me he's gone from indispensable to replaceable, especially now we have Sanchez. We don't really need an all action type, now we need someone with a bit more guile in the final third. As much as I like delph, he doesn't do that often enough.
The cynic in me thinks a Man City reserve, like Sinclair for instance, might be on his way to Swansea in a swap and be valued by both clubs at a rather unrealistic figure.If that were to help balance Man City's books (and mean that they didn't have to give as much actual cash to Swansea), why would Swansea agree to that?
Don't see why it's biased to consider Benteke to be better. He is. Look at the range of his goals. Genuinely two footed, brilliant with his head, great passer, got everything.
He's better than Lukaku as well.
I'm still disappointed in Delph's stance in this.Which is what?
I think Benteke is currently devalued by his injury. We haven't seen the world beating Benteke back yet and there is a chance he no longer exists. Of course a decent second half to the season would dispel thatDon't see why it's biased to consider Benteke to be better. He is. Look at the range of his goals. Genuinely two footed, brilliant with his head, great passer, got everything.
He's better than Lukaku as well.
100% agree and I don't think that is through my claret and blue tinted specs
Delph was certainly excellent last season, however I'm struggling to think of a game this season where he's been particularly impressive. For me he's gone from indispensable to replaceable, especially now we have Sanchez. We don't really need an all action type, now we need someone with a bit more guile in the final third. As much as I like delph, he doesn't do that often enough.
Would go along with that. I rate him as well, but he doesn't really produce that much in terms of creating chances and scoring goals.
I'm still disappointed in Delph's stance in this.Which is what?
This might be a biased opinion but I think Benteke is better than Bony. Bony Is a good finisher but I haven't seen him create his own goals the way Benteke has at times.
If he's £25m I'd be wanting £30m for Benteke.
I wish we'd been a bit braver and gone for Bony ourselves that summer, I think he'd have been excellent alongside Benteke.
In the summer the common opinion seemed to be that we had enough strikers and didn't need any more. Not that we would have been likely to pay £25m for one player.
This might be a biased opinion but I think Benteke is better than Bony. Bony Is a good finisher but I haven't seen him create his own goals the way Benteke has at times.
If he's £25m I'd be wanting £30m for Benteke.
I wish we'd been a bit braver and gone for Bony ourselves that summer, I think he'd have been excellent alongside Benteke.
In the summer the common opinion seemed to be that we had enough strikers and didn't need any more. Not that we would have been likely to pay £25m for one player.
I meant before he went to Swansea, afterall we were linked to him before we signed Benteke and there did seem to be something in it.
This might be a biased opinion but I think Benteke is better than Bony. Bony Is a good finisher but I haven't seen him create his own goals the way Benteke has at times.
If he's £25m I'd be wanting £30m for Benteke.
I wish we'd been a bit braver and gone for Bony ourselves that summer, I think he'd have been excellent alongside Benteke.
I think he is any style player except the new Paul Lambert style.
Dembele straight swap is the only deal I would take from Spurs.
Mr Fox said he's been having unsexy talks with Vlaar and Delph about how he sees Villa's future.
Delph was certainly excellent last season, however I'm struggling to think of a game this season where he's been particularly impressive. For me he's gone from indispensable to replaceable, especially now we have Sanchez. We don't really need an all action type, now we need someone with a bit more guile in the final third. As much as I like delph, he doesn't do that often enough.
Would go along with that. I rate him as well, but he doesn't really produce that much in terms of creating chances and scoring goals.
Purely based on those two aspects, perhaps.
But there is more to a central midfielder.
He is cute in possession, has quick feet and doesn't just restrict himself to the obvious sideways pass like the rest of our plodders. He is cheeky enough to show just enough of the ball to the defender before nipping away from him and finding space. Stoke away there were countless examples of this. He made it look effortless. He can then hit the afterburners and carry the ball at pace too, invaluable for a team that relies as much on the counter as we do.
He might not weigh in with as many goals as I'd like, but when he runs at defenders they have a dilemma. Do they close him down quickly, or do they back off and let him take a shot. He's capable from long-range, and defenders know that.
He's the closest thing we have to a box-to-box midfielder, without him in the side we look far too leggy and one-paced. So even if he doesn't often play the killer pass, score enough or make the last ditch tackle that gets the crowd off their feet, he is still going to be hard to replace.
Anyone that breeds up Helen Flanagan isn't right in the head.
The MEN are saying that it could be a £3 million deal for Sinclair.
Mr Fox said he's been having unsexy talks with Vlaar and Delph about how he sees Villa's future.
I seem to remember they paid about £8m for him.The MEN are saying that it could be a £3 million deal for Sinclair.
I like how they got him for nothing, hardly played him, sent him out on loan but think he's worth a transfer fee.
I seem to remember they paid about £8m for him.The MEN are saying that it could be a £3 million deal for Sinclair.
I like how they got him for nothing, hardly played him, sent him out on loan but think he's worth a transfer fee.
Anyone that breeds up Helen Flanagan isn't right in the head.
Really??
Can Man Utd just bid for Calf Injury Ron, I'm bored of reading about it now.I like that name. From now on he is CI Ron. Let's just hope LVG goes mental and pays us a few million and has an empty sick bed in their medical room.
Calf injury Ron might be like van Persie - he was always injured at Arsenal and went to Yanited and played loads.
gI'm still disappointed in Delph's stance in this.Which is what?
He's previously stated that he owes Villa / Lerner for standing by him when he was; to use his owns words; 'missing for 2-3 seasons'. But now it appears this counts for nothing & he's going to look after number one. Personally I find that disappointing, but not surprising. Ultimately he may stay with us, but like most of us I'm resigned to him leaving for nothing.
He did, and then (from Lambert's comments) we didn't offer him any new terms until he was into the final year of his contract.gI'm still disappointed in Delph's stance in this.Which is what?
He's previously stated that he owes Villa / Lerner for standing by him when he was; to use his owns words; 'missing for 2-3 seasons'. But now it appears this counts for nothing & he's going to look after number one. Personally I find that disappointing, but not surprising. Ultimately he may stay with us, but like most of us I'm resigned to him leaving for nothing.
I agree actually.. He did state he wants to stay to repay the club blah blah but clearly that was hot air. Don't say it at all if you don't mean it. I don't blame him wanting to go but don't bleat 12 months prior about wanting to repay faith when it's bollocks.
I seem to remember they paid about £8m for him.The MEN are saying that it could be a £3 million deal for Sinclair.
I like how they got him for nothing, hardly played him, sent him out on loan but think he's worth a transfer fee.
Maybe there is a clause in his new contract offer stating he has to take a wage cut if relegated, for example.I'd hope that we've been putting that clause in every player's contracts since before the O'Neill days to be honest.
Maybe there is a clause in his new contract offer stating he has to take a wage cut if relegated, for example.I'd hope that we've been putting that clause in every player's contracts since before the O'Neill days to be honest.
Maybe there is a clause in his new contract offer stating he has to take a wage cut if relegated, for example.I'd hope that we've been putting that clause in every player's contracts since before the O'Neill days to be honest.
Well for a side that seems to hang around the lower reaches of the league it would make sense.
As a player though, it obviously wouldn't be quite so attractive.
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If Manure offered us £1.5 million for Vlaar I'd tell them to get stuffed.I think that's good money to look after an almost permanently injured player and we save wages too.
I'd sign up Sinclair in a heartbeat. Even if he's not getting games anyone that is surrounded by that level of talent day in and day out at training will at least bring some skill to the squad.
I'd sign up Sinclair in a heartbeat. Even if he's not getting games anyone that is surrounded by that level of talent day in and day out at training will at least bring some skill to the squad.
Yep, that definitely showed with Cleverley.
Oh.
Well, Sky seem to think we're now in talks for Sinclair, although as yet to meet their £2.5m asking price. Let's just hope that he realises this is pretty much last chance saloon as far as top-flight football goes and takes it with both hands.
Well, Sky seem to think we're now in talks for Sinclair, although as yet to meet their £2.5m asking price. Let's just hope that he realises this is pretty much last chance saloon as far as top-flight football goes and takes it with both hands.
£2.5mil up front coinciding with (assuming we match) his current £40k/wk ain't bad if the kid works out.
Isn't this the guy that wasn't good enough to break into the West Brom team last season?Correct.
If he's the same player he was at Swansea then yea sign him up....but 20 games in 3 seasons, I doubt it.I was just wondering, have any of the players bought by the big spenders then hardly ever played ever regained their original form?
Isn't this the guy that wasn't good enough to break into the West Brom team last season?Correct.
If he does come to us it's got to be seen as his last chance to make a decent living in the game.
Hope he can rise to the challenge, especially as the manager doesn't like/use wingers!
Perhaps he's another left back in disguise!
Answering my own question, I suppose Andy Carroll is starting to
Whenever I see we are in for Sinclair I always presume it's Trevor Sinclair.
When I picture him, I think of a spell on loan away from Chelsea at Plymouth I believe where I thought he had exceptional talent.
Isn't this the guy that wasn't good enough to break into the West Brom team last season?
Isn't this the guy that wasn't good enough to break into the West Brom team last season?
The guy who tore his hamstring then struggled to regain form.. yeah.
When I picture him, I think of a spell on loan away from Chelsea at Plymouth I believe where I thought he had exceptional talent.
This bit, presumably:
Lambert has always said he's very uncomfortable spending big sums of moneyWhere has he said this? "Always"?
After Kozak and benteke . The only times he's spent BIG in our terms .Lambert has always said he's very uncomfortable spending big sums of moneyWhere has he said this? "Always"?
Sinclair, loan with a view to buy. No way would I splash cash on him at this point. He hasn't played for eons. Agree a fee but loan him. Protection both ways.
There's a lot of comparisons on here that aren't quite right, the only exact comparison I can think of is:
Sidwell - youth prospect at a big club, never really had a chance with them despite some decent loan spells, dropped down to a smaller club and did well for a few years until promotion to the premier league, had a great season and signed for a club with more money than sense looking for the next big thing. Disappeared for a while (only 1 season for Sidwell to be fair) and then never got close to the form that caused that big move. It's the whole 'rejected by 2 champions league clubs' which leaves the scars that I think players struggle to get over.
Sinclair is damaged goods for me and I wouldn't go anywhere near him, too big a risk even at 2.5m.
Sinclair, loan with a view to buy. No way would I splash cash on him at this point. He hasn't played for eons. Agree a fee but loan him. Protection both ways.Disagree. I'd take him on loan for 5 months. What do we have to lose other than a couple of Mill of Lerners money
Or maybe he'll be another Wayne Routledge. Sometimes a player just needs to be at the right club.This.
After Kozak and benteke . The only times he's spent BIG in our terms .Lambert has always said he's very uncomfortable spending big sums of moneyWhere has he said this? "Always"?
The Manchester United midfielder is on a season-long loan at Villa Park after being told he has no long-term future at Old Trafford.
The England star has made 17 appearances for Paul Lambert's men this season, with Villa keen to make the deal full-time in June.
Villa are willing to meet United's £7m asking price, but Starsport understands the 25-year-old will snub the Midlands outfit because he wants to go to the Toffees.
Goodison Park boss Roberto Martinez is a long time admirer of Cleverley and is desperate to add him to his squad in the summer.
Martinez is bracing himself for the loss of rising star Ross Barkley, who is a summer target of Premier League champions Manchester City.
The big-spenders are confident of landing Barkley in a £40m deal and Martinez will use some of the funds to lure Cleverley to Merseyside.
May as well put it here as well, as the Bishop said to the actress.
Daily StarQuoteThe Manchester United midfielder is on a season-long loan at Villa Park after being told he has no long-term future at Old Trafford.
The England star has made 17 appearances for Paul Lambert's men this season, with Villa keen to make the deal full-time in June.
Villa are willing to meet United's £7m asking price, but Starsport understands the 25-year-old will snub the Midlands outfit because he wants to go to the Toffees.
Goodison Park boss Roberto Martinez is a long time admirer of Cleverley and is desperate to add him to his squad in the summer.
Martinez is bracing himself for the loss of rising star Ross Barkley, who is a summer target of Premier League champions Manchester City.
The big-spenders are confident of landing Barkley in a £40m deal and Martinez will use some of the funds to lure Cleverley to Merseyside.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/aston-villa/11331884/Aston-Villa-hopes-of-signing-Scott-Sinclair-from-Manchester-City-hit-stumbling-block-over-2.5m-fee.html
Lerner out, Fox out, Lambert out.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/aston-villa/11331884/Aston-Villa-hopes-of-signing-Scott-Sinclair-from-Manchester-City-hit-stumbling-block-over-2.5m-fee.html
Lerner out, Fox out, Lambert out.
I'd sign up Sinclair in a heartbeat. Even if he's not getting games anyone that is surrounded by that level of talent day in and day out at training will at least bring some skill to the squad.
Yep, that definitely showed with Cleverley.
Oh.
Oh yeah, that United team was so unified.. there was no internal friction or poisoned atmosphere there. ::)
Totally different clubs, totally different level of expectations for each.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/aston-villa/11331884/Aston-Villa-hopes-of-signing-Scott-Sinclair-from-Manchester-City-hit-stumbling-block-over-2.5m-fee.htmlI hope the newspaper story is true and that we wont sign the player because of the fee.
Lerner out, Fox out, Lambert out.
Dave from Bath's mate knows Sinclair and says he can't be arsed with football beyond it being a wealthy means to an end so his stagnation is a worrying sign. I'm a sucker for players with obvious attacking talent no matter how hidden it may be though. £2.5m is pretty much peanuts, even to us.
Dave from Bath's mate knows Sinclair and says he can't be arsed with football beyond it being a wealthy means to an end so his stagnation is a worrying sign. I'm a sucker for players with obvious attacking talent no matter how hidden it may be though. £2.5m is pretty much peanuts, even to us.
I think it's a lot of money for a player who's barely played in the last few years. £500,000 maybe, but not £2.5 million.
May as well put it here as well, as the Bishop said to the actress.Bloody hell. If this is true a blessing in disguise. He has always thought he is too good for us, remember the bollocks we had trying to sign him when he buggered off up to M6 when he heard Everton were interested? He has shown little to nothing since being here, get gone pal. I honestly think if you polled Villa fans on who they would rather have between Westwood and Cleverley, 95% would be in favour of Westwood
Daily StarQuoteThe Manchester United midfielder is on a season-long loan at Villa Park after being told he has no long-term future at Old Trafford.
The England star has made 17 appearances for Paul Lambert's men this season, with Villa keen to make the deal full-time in June.
Villa are willing to meet United's £7m asking price, but Starsport understands the 25-year-old will snub the Midlands outfit because he wants to go to the Toffees.
Goodison Park boss Roberto Martinez is a long time admirer of Cleverley and is desperate to add him to his squad in the summer.
Martinez is bracing himself for the loss of rising star Ross Barkley, who is a summer target of Premier League champions Manchester City.
The big-spenders are confident of landing Barkley in a £40m deal and Martinez will use some of the funds to lure Cleverley to Merseyside.
May as well put it here as well, as the Bishop said to the actress.Bloody hell. If this is true a blessing in disguise. He has always thought he is too good for us, remember the bollocks we had trying to sign him when he buggered off up to M6 when he heard Everton were interested? He has shown little to nothing since being here, get gone pal. I honestly think if you polled Villa fans on who they would rather have between Westwood and Cleverley, 95% would be in favour of Westwood
Daily StarQuoteThe Manchester United midfielder is on a season-long loan at Villa Park after being told he has no long-term future at Old Trafford.
The England star has made 17 appearances for Paul Lambert's men this season, with Villa keen to make the deal full-time in June.
Villa are willing to meet United's £7m asking price, but Starsport understands the 25-year-old will snub the Midlands outfit because he wants to go to the Toffees.
Goodison Park boss Roberto Martinez is a long time admirer of Cleverley and is desperate to add him to his squad in the summer.
Martinez is bracing himself for the loss of rising star Ross Barkley, who is a summer target of Premier League champions Manchester City.
The big-spenders are confident of landing Barkley in a £40m deal and Martinez will use some of the funds to lure Cleverley to Merseyside.
There are some Twatterings about us offering Valencia €5m for Carles Gil, whoever he might be...
There are some Twatterings about us offering Valencia €5m for Carles Gil, whoever he might be...
Never heard of him but looking him up he's only played 1 full game this season and has only played 270 minutes in total. Hasn't featured at all in the last 5 and scores roughly 1 in 10. On stats alone that's not the kind of attacking player I'd hope we'd sign.
Would take someone like Robbie Brady ahead of Sinclair. Competing for a wing back position with Robertson at Hull but I think would be much better behind the front man or in a front 3. Whether he has the self belief to truly make it is another matter but has plenty of ability.
Joel Campbell all day ahead of Sinclair
Dave from Bath's mate knows Sinclair and says he can't be arsed with football beyond it being a wealthy means to an end so his stagnation is a worrying sign. I'm a sucker for players with obvious attacking talent no matter how hidden it may be though. £2.5m is pretty much peanuts, even to us.
I think it's a lot of money for a player who's barely played in the last few years. £500,000 maybe, but not £2.5 million.
I thought that too Paul. I know you can never take too much away from a YouTube highlights clip, but he looks to have more poise and balance than our current crop of attacking players. Not unlike a young Joe Cole, in fact.
Just seen a rumour of a 1.30pm press-conference at Villa. The pre-match one is usually on the Friday isn't it...?No. Always on a Thursday.
There are some Twatterings about us offering Valencia €5m for Carles Gil, whoever he might be...
Never heard of him but looking him up he's only played 1 full game this season and has only played 270 minutes in total. Hasn't featured at all in the last 5 and scores roughly 1 in 10. On stats alone that's not the kind of attacking player I'd hope we'd sign.
he's 22 so stats for his career this far aren't necessarily all that valuable. Looking at the video Russell posted he looks quick, happy to run at people and can cross with both feet, I'll take that as competition with Gabby/Weimann as at least he'd be drawing defenders away from Benteke who gets crowded out far too often right now.
There are some Twatterings about us offering Valencia €5m for Carles Gil, whoever he might be...
Never heard of him but looking him up he's only played 1 full game this season and has only played 270 minutes in total. Hasn't featured at all in the last 5 and scores roughly 1 in 10. On stats alone that's not the kind of attacking player I'd hope we'd sign.
he's 22 so stats for his career this far aren't necessarily all that valuable. Looking at the video Russell posted he looks quick, happy to run at people and can cross with both feet, I'll take that as competition with Gabby/Weimann as at least he'd be drawing defenders away from Benteke who gets crowded out far too often right now.
I imagine with careful editing Weiman could look outstanding on a you tube highlights video.
'Players will be coming in' according to Lambert.
I thought that too Paul. I know you can never take too much away from a YouTube highlights clip, but he looks to have more poise and balance than our current crop of attacking players. Not unlike a young Joe Cole, in fact.
'Players will be coming in' according to Lambert.
It's a bit much to be complaining about the quality of signings we haven't even made yet.
Emile Heskey actually has a pretty tasty YT highlights video if I recall.There are some Twatterings about us offering Valencia €5m for Carles Gil, whoever he might be...
Never heard of him but looking him up he's only played 1 full game this season and has only played 270 minutes in total. Hasn't featured at all in the last 5 and scores roughly 1 in 10. On stats alone that's not the kind of attacking player I'd hope we'd sign.
he's 22 so stats for his career this far aren't necessarily all that valuable. Looking at the video Russell posted he looks quick, happy to run at people and can cross with both feet, I'll take that as competition with Gabby/Weimann as at least he'd be drawing defenders away from Benteke who gets crowded out far too often right now.
I imagine with careful editing Weiman could look outstanding on a you tube highlights video.
Lowton linked to Swansea for £2m. Seems like a fair price.
Cleverley is a squad player not unlike Chris Herd. He is nothing more than that.
Cleverley is a squad player not unlike Chris Herd. He is nothing more than that.
Wow
Cleverley is a squad player not unlike Chris Herd. He is nothing more than that.
Wow
As mediocre as I think he is, he's probably the 2nd best we have in midfield. But please don't buy him Lambert.
Cleverley is a squad player not unlike Chris Herd. He is nothing more than that.
Wow
As mediocre as I think he is, he's probably the 2nd best we have in midfield. But please don't buy him Lambert.
Actually scrub that I must be tired, delph, Sanchez, bacuna and then cleverly
I think that would probably be my list as well. Maybe switching Delph and Sanchez.Cleverley is a squad player not unlike Chris Herd. He is nothing more than that.
Wow
As mediocre as I think he is, he's probably the 2nd best we have in midfield. But please don't buy him Lambert.
Actually scrub that I must be tired, delph, Sanchez, bacuna and then cleverly
Sanchez, Delph, Westwood, Bacuna then Cleverley.
I wouldn't mind us bringing in Cleverley at the right price.
I like Lowton and would prefer him to stay as cover. Then again I like Chris Herd.
I wonder how much we really paid for Lowton - sub-1m?That's what Lambert and Lowton's brother have suggested.
I like Lowton and would prefer him to stay as cover. Then again I like Chris Herd.
This might sound strange but I would offer Westwood around, I really don't think he's going to improve much more. I like him but I don't see how we can incorporate him over or next to Sanchez. If Lowton is worth two million then Westwood has to be a few more. No doubt Ashley can help a midfield beat, we just need an AM and Carlos is a baller.
Herd though? :o
Lowton linked to Swansea for £2m. Seems like a fair price.
Emile Heskey actually has a pretty tasty YT highlights video if I recall.There are some Twatterings about us offering Valencia €5m for Carles Gil, whoever he might be...
Never heard of him but looking him up he's only played 1 full game this season and has only played 270 minutes in total. Hasn't featured at all in the last 5 and scores roughly 1 in 10. On stats alone that's not the kind of attacking player I'd hope we'd sign.
he's 22 so stats for his career this far aren't necessarily all that valuable. Looking at the video Russell posted he looks quick, happy to run at people and can cross with both feet, I'll take that as competition with Gabby/Weimann as at least he'd be drawing defenders away from Benteke who gets crowded out far too often right now.
I imagine with careful editing Weiman could look outstanding on a you tube highlights video.
I like Lowton and would prefer him to stay as cover. Then again I like Chris Herd.
This might sound strange but I would offer Westwood around, I really don't think he's going to improve much more. I like him but I don't see how we can incorporate him over or next to Sanchez. If Lowton is worth two million then Westwood has to be a few more. No doubt Ashley can help a midfield beat, we just need an AM and Carlos is a baller.
Herd though? :o
Westwood and Sanchez could work as the sitting midfielders, in a 4231, in my opinion.
However we'd need the three in front of that to really buzz about and have pace.
Emile Heskey actually has a pretty tasty YT highlights video if I recall.There are some Twatterings about us offering Valencia €5m for Carles Gil, whoever he might be...
Never heard of him but looking him up he's only played 1 full game this season and has only played 270 minutes in total. Hasn't featured at all in the last 5 and scores roughly 1 in 10. On stats alone that's not the kind of attacking player I'd hope we'd sign.
he's 22 so stats for his career this far aren't necessarily all that valuable. Looking at the video Russell posted he looks quick, happy to run at people and can cross with both feet, I'll take that as competition with Gabby/Weimann as at least he'd be drawing defenders away from Benteke who gets crowded out far too often right now.
I imagine with careful editing Weiman could look outstanding on a you tube highlights video.
You're not wrong
I F'ing love that video, makes me laugh everytime.
In fairness young Emile looked a very good prospect indeed. Fast, big and strong isn't the worst combination and at Liverpool a blossoming relationship with Owen.
In fairness young Emile looked a very good prospect indeed. Fast, big and strong isn't the worst combination and at Liverpool a blossoming relationship with Owen.
When he was at Leicester at the start of his career I remember seeing Heskey beat five players in a run up the right wing. He appeared to have everything. Which he did apart from confidence in his own ability and consistent goalscoring.
Pity really.
£2.5 million on Sinclair and £4 million on Gil from Valencia would be a much better use of funds than £7.5 million on Cleverley.Without a doubt however know very little about Gil myself but read some good reports
do you not think he wants away?as soon as hes fit he,l be gone,if he gets it back if ifBeing drunk at 10.05AM is not good!
sorry its the ansells mild.i obviosly ment
he will be away
Benteke, when he,s fit,if he regains some form,if not he,l be here for life.
£2.5 million on Sinclair and £4 million on Gil from Valencia would be a much better use of funds than £7.5 million on Cleverley.And a mill in the pocket for a piss up! :D
Benteke, when he,s fit,if he regains some form,if not he,l be here for life.
Benteke, when he,s fit,if he regains some form,if not he,l be here for life.
Is that you footyskillz?
Right thread?Welcome Ben. I hope you succeed.
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Footyskillz is Villa Kicks under an assumed name. I am convinced of it!
Footyskillz is Villa Kicks under an assumed name. I am convinced of it!
Sit down Sherlock!
footyskillz is working tirelessly to get something sorted before the window closes, if it's not Jay Spearing and Jozy Altidore I'm sure he'll get the next best options.
It isn't Brice Jovial and following user names but is very familiar with JJ. Has someone given Rob Yates a computer?
A Valencian radio show reporting that we have bid €5 million for Charlie Gil.
It isn't Brice Jovial and following user names but is very familiar with JJ. Has someone given Rob Yates a computer?
Rob Yates.....shudders......
A Valencian radio show reporting that we have bid €5 million for Charlie Gil.
People getting excited about Gil should remember that Tonev looked good according to Twitter and YouTube.
It shows how far we've fallen when you see the players we're now being linked with. We must be the biggest laughing stock in the country. The whole club is a total shambles from top to bottom. For all of Ellis' faults, at least under him we had the odd marquee signing. Theres no hope of that now.
'It shows how far we've fallen' needs to be put onto some sort of banned phrase list.
First I've heard of Gil. What position does he play, and is he any good?
First I've heard of Gil. What position does he play, and is he any good?
People getting excited about Gil should remember that Tonev looked good according to Twitter and YouTube.
I wonder how much we really paid for Lowton - sub-1m?That's what Lambert and Lowton's brother have suggested.
Is Gil the player that Spanish guy linked us with a while ago. Mr Ballagay (sp)? If so, gives a bit more credence to the story. He apparently said it on a Spanish footie show on Sky a short while back.
People getting excited about Gil should remember that Tonev looked good according to Twitter and YouTube.
You could say that about pretty much any player you like.
People getting excited about Gil should remember that Tonev looked good according to Twitter and YouTube.
It shows how far we've fallen when you see the players we're now being linked with.
I wonder how much we really paid for Lowton - sub-1m?That's what Lambert and Lowton's brother have suggested.
Then Lambert is lying.
The commonly held view is £2m, and this is backed up by the Sheffield United accounts.
Carles Gil?.........Jesus Gil is who we need.
He knows how to sack a manager
Carles Gil?.........Jesus Gil is who we need.
He knows how to sack a manager
Sadly he would require as much resurrection as his namesake.
Leicester need a striker, spend 10m.
We need some creativity, how much money do we think we'll spend?
Leicester need a striker, spend 10m.
We need some creativity, how much money do we think we'll spend?
Pauline, we don't need to spend. We have Tom Cleverly! (Sarcasm doesn't really work on the internet does it!😁)
I would not give this clown a penny to spend, because however good they are when they first get here, he will dam well make sure they are no good in a couple of months time.Abso-bloody-lutely.
The best signing Villa can make this window is a new manager.
Liverpool linked with a 7.5M bid for Delph and a 15M bid for Benteke in today;s papers. Given that Delph is unlikely to sign in the summer would you take 7.5M now if it is indeed on offer?You'd have to say yes to that. Benteke won't go anywhere this window, but his value is dropping all the time spearheading this shite attack!
25m puts him in the same price bracket as Bony and at the moment at least, he's not worth it. Pains me to say it but injuries and the hopeless way Lambert sets the team up when he does play have undermined Benteke's value.
25m puts him in the same price bracket as Bony and at the moment at least, he's not worth it. Pains me to say it but injuries and the hopeless way Lambert sets the team up when he does play have undermined Benteke's value.
Has anyone written the classic summer or winter transfer window letter or e-mail to the Mail yet? 'We need a quality midfielder and a twenty goals a season striker'. Roy Keane and Alan Shearer used to be the names mentioned by these people who could obviously scout an unknown gem.
Has anyone written the classic summer or winter transfer window letter or e-mail to the Mail yet? 'We need a quality midfielder and a twenty goals a season striker'. Roy Keane and Alan Shearer used to be the names mentioned by these people who could obviously scout an unknown gem.
Lionel Messi is one we should be looking at. Unhappy at Barcelona my sources tell me.
Bit galling to see Albrightons performance yesterday when we are crying out for a wide man. Is Sinclair really better then Marc?
Has anyone written the classic summer or winter transfer window letter or e-mail to the Mail yet? 'We need a quality midfielder and a twenty goals a season striker'. Roy Keane and Alan Shearer used to be the names mentioned by these people who could obviously scout an unknown gem.
Lionel Messi is one we should be looking at. Unhappy at Barcelona my sources tell me.
Don't forget the twenty goals a season striker. You don't even have to come up with a name. "We should buy a twenty goal a season striker to take the pressure off Benteke" qualifies as helpful enough.
Has anyone written the classic summer or winter transfer window letter or e-mail to the Mail yet? 'We need a quality midfielder and a twenty goals a season striker'. Roy Keane and Alan Shearer used to be the names mentioned by these people who could obviously scout an unknown gem.
Lionel Messi is one we should be looking at. Unhappy at Barcelona my sources tell me.
Don't forget the twenty goals a season striker. You don't even have to come up with a name. "We should buy a twenty goal a season striker to take the pressure off Benteke" qualifies as helpful enough.
Because it's not your job to come up with one.
25m puts him in the same price bracket as Bony and at the moment at least, he's not worth it. Pains me to say it but injuries and the hopeless way Lambert sets the team up when he does play have undermined Benteke's value.
Benteke's attitude has undermined his value. He has been a disgrace in recent games, little movement, berating team mates constantly and taking the wrong option repeatedly. He has become like Ashley Young in his last season with us.
I saw the game in Spain yesterday but with no sound . The Camera.s focussed on someone who looked like Carles Gil watching from the Stands with an older Gentleman ( poss Father ) . Does anyone know if he was actually at the Leic,s Ground ?.............Godzvilla!s
I saw the game in Spain yesterday but with no sound . The Camera.s focussed on someone who looked like Carles Gil watching from the Stands with an older Gentleman ( poss Father ) . Does anyone know if he was actually at the Leic,s Ground ?.............Godzvilla!s
Think it was Karamic that was focused on
Benteke's attitude has undermined his value. He has been a disgrace in recent games, little movement, berating team mates constantly and taking the wrong option repeatedly. He has become like Ashley Young in his last season with us.I don't blame him. He's got a lot on his shoulders and absolutely no help in the final third. I'd lose patience and motivation quickly too.
So Bony is off to Citeh for £28m. I wonder if they need to sell to stay within the FFP and if so, who?
Another transfer window where I'm more interested in the manager being sacked than new footballers coming inYes. There is no point in giving Lambert any more opportunities.
Guillem Balague @GuillemBalague 7m 7 minutes ago
All done between Carlos Gil and Aston Villa. 5 year deal and around 4m euros as confirmed by Spanish press this afternoon
Eóin - Valencia News @XimoVCF 37m37 minutes ago
Local journalist @josemsegarra says that VCF and Aston Villa have reached an agreement for Carles Gil. Player travels to England tomorrow.
I saw the game in Spain yesterday but with no sound . The Camera.s focussed on someone who looked like Carles Gil watching from the Stands with an older Gentleman ( poss Father ) . Does anyone know if he was actually at the Leic,s Ground ?.............Godzvilla!s
Think it was Karamic that was focused on
Correct, mentioned him a couple of times.
Sinclair at 4m plus wages is a big gamble as is Gil but we need players who can bring some attacking to quality this team. Things can't go on like this otherwise we are going to be relegated so if these 2 are the best we can afford then get them in now.
Squeaky butts time lads!
£2.5m on Sinclar isn't that much in the current marketYes but still a burden if he turns into an Ireland/Adams/Rodwell etc who have not pulled up any trees since leaving city.
£2.5m on Sinclar isn't that much in the current marketYes but still a burden if he turns into an Ireland/Adams/Rodwell etc who have not pulled up any trees since leaving city.
The Twitter guy who mentioned Carles Gil has suggested we have had a bid rejected for Dembele.
A Dembele/ Delph swap would be a good move for us. Buying Dembele would be a very good move. Much better than our current lot in midfield.
Maybe its the Fulham dembele and not the spurs one 😃
Dembele doesn't score/create enough for me.
I know it's twitter but Tolgay Arslan has to be a wind up?
I know it's twitter but Tolgay Arslan has to be a wind up?
He's going to Besiktas isn't he?
I know it's twitter but Tolgay Arslan has to be a wind up?Dunno. It can be hard to tell with those crazy Turks.
How long have you waited to be able to post that link!?Put it this way, I have now lifted the curse and can return to my own realm.
Lol... It seems a bit out of the ordinary to be having a press conference for a 3m signing.
Just read we are interested in signing Ravel Morrison as a replacement fort the England wanker Delph.
Pardew has signed Sanogo on loan from arsenal.
Just read we are interested in signing Ravel Morrison as a replacement fort the England wanker Delph.
I would happily take Puncheon off their hand Ads. Bolasie was their biggest threat against us too. I think those 2 kept them up last season and probably will again this.
I would happily take Puncheon off their hand Ads. Bolasie was their biggest threat against us too. I think those 2 kept them up last season and probably will again this.
I haven't seen much of Puncheon, but I think Zaha is a waster and that Bolasie is laughably poor.
Bolaise is the best I have seen since Ronnie Rosenthal.I would happily take Puncheon off their hand Ads. Bolasie was their biggest threat against us too. I think those 2 kept them up last season and probably will again this.
I haven't seen much of Puncheon, but I think Zaha is a waster and that Bolasie is laughably poor.
Just read we are interested in signing Ravel Morrison as a replacement fort the England wanker Delph.
Sky says that 2 Premier League teams are after him, as well as Lazio and I thought 'we'd better not be one of them'.
We were playing a line about 10 yards into their half.
Upto 10 PL clubs chasing Defoe according to Sky
Fee upwards of £3m
Upto 10 PL clubs chasing Defoe according to Sky
Fee upwards of £3m
Upto 10 PL clubs chasing Defoe according to Sky
Fee upwards of £3m
QPR again
No ruled out SpursUpto 10 PL clubs chasing Defoe according to Sky
Fee upwards of £3m
Nine of those clubs will be Spurs.
No ruled out SpursUpto 10 PL clubs chasing Defoe according to Sky
Fee upwards of £3m
Nine of those clubs will be Spurs.
His wages will be huge. He's on a good whack at Toronto.Agree. Think WBA may swoop
His wages will be huge. He's on a good whack at Toronto.Agree. Think WBA may swoop
Upto 10 PL clubs chasing Defoe according to Sky
Fee upwards of £3m
QPR again
It's not 10 clubs, it's just QPR and they've bid £30m.
Has Pullis not been handed a war chestHis wages will be huge. He's on a good whack at Toronto.Agree. Think WBA may swoop
Fuck me, you must have picked the only club in the division that's tighter than us.
Has Pullis not been handed a war chestHis wages will be huge. He's on a good whack at Toronto.Agree. Think WBA may swoop
Fuck me, you must have picked the only club in the division that's tighter than us.
Has Pullis not been handed a war chestHis wages will be huge. He's on a good whack at Toronto.Agree. Think WBA may swoop
Fuck me, you must have picked the only club in the division that's tighter than us.
More a war-jewellery box.
Has Pullis not been handed a war chestHis wages will be huge. He's on a good whack at Toronto.Agree. Think WBA may swoop
Fuck me, you must have picked the only club in the division that's tighter than us.
Ravel Morrison on a free from West Spam anyone............
Ravel Morrison on a free from West Spam anyone............
Always liked Steven Davis, but too old for me now.Think pw meant as a member of our squad blf, not your sex slave!
Steven Davis ? No
He's industrious but doesn't score or create much
Ravel Morrison on a free from West Spam anyone............He has Ravel on his shirt. Say no more. He's a proper c**t.
Ravel Morrison on a free from West Spam anyone............He has Ravel on his shirt. Say no more. He's a proper c**t.
Always liked Steven Davis, but too old for me now.
We need to go get Nathan Redmond - future England winger. Sign him now and we could flog him in a few years and make a profit.
We need to go get Nathan Redmond - future England winger. Sign him now and we could flog him in a few years and make a profit.
I agree that'd he be an excellent signing, but Norwich would be loathe to sell to Lambert, as they were with Hoolahan.
In an ideal world, we'd be looking at either Redmond or Lennon, but Sinclair is the realistic option, unfortunately.
With regard to N'Zogbia, does anyone know how long he has left on his contract...?
Steven Davis ? No
He's industrious but doesn't score or create much
We already have one of them in cleverley
We need to go get Nathan Redmond - future England winger. Sign him now and we could flog him in a few years and make a profit.
I agree that'd he be an excellent signing, but Norwich would be loathe to sell to Lambert, as they were with Hoolahan.
In an ideal world, we'd be looking at either Redmond or Lennon, but Sinclair is the realistic option, unfortunately.
With regard to N'Zogbia, does anyone know how long he has left on his contract...?
I assumed he'd been given a new 8 year one at some point in the last 3 months
Stoke are letting Huth out on loan. Possible option as Glass Ron is injured for a change.
According to some reports this morning the gimlet eyed Mr Defoe has secured a £14m retirement package with Sunderland
Stoke are letting Huth out on loan. Possible option as Glass Ron is injured for a change.
According to some reports this morning the gimlet eyed Mr Defoe has secured a £14m retirement package with Sunderland
14mil at he age of 32? The world's gone mad. There is still hope for Benty then especially as we now have bought someone to create goals.
Surely if that £14m figure is correct then that will be the transfer fee and his wages over the length of the contract?According to some reports this morning the gimlet eyed Mr Defoe has secured a £14m retirement package with Sunderland
14mil at he age of 32? The world's gone mad. There is still hope for Benty then especially as we now have bought someone to create goals.
We need to go get Nathan Redmond - future England winger. Sign him now and we could flog him in a few years and make a profit.
I note that Shaun Maloney is set to sign for Leicester, according to the BBC website.
We need to go get Nathan Redmond - future England winger. Sign him now and we could flog him in a few years and make a profit.
He would be a decent addition to the squad and wouldn't cost too much in terms of a fee and wages. Might not be an automatic starter, but could play on either wing and give us an option we don't currently have. Can't see Norwich selling to us while Lambert is still in charge though.
According to some reports this morning the gimlet eyed Mr Defoe has secured a £14m retirement package with Sunderland
According to some reports this morning the gimlet eyed Mr Defoe has secured a £14m retirement package with Sunderland
80k a week apparently! Unfuckingbelieveable. Hope their throwing in Altidore as a makeweight
According to some reports this morning the gimlet eyed Mr Defoe has secured a £14m retirement package with Sunderland
I thought MON had left Sunderland ages ago.
According to some reports this morning the gimlet eyed Mr Defoe has secured a £14m retirement package with Sunderland
Teams are getting desperate
They know they can't go down
Rumours about Januzaj from United on loan till the end of the season in The Times. Now that would be a good signing. Width and the ability to go past players.
80k a week apparently! Unfuckingbelieveable. Hope their throwing in Altidore as a makeweight
Rumours about Januzaj from United on loan till the end of the season in The Times. Now that would be a good signing. Width and the ability to go past players.
We cant have 2 United players on loan at the same time......so Cleverley would have to be sent back
Rumours about Januzaj from United on loan till the end of the season in The Times. Now that would be a good signing. Width and the ability to go past players.
and I thought Christmas had passed. Please let it be so
We cant have 2 United players on loan at the same time......so Cleverley would have to be sent back
Rumours about Januzaj from United on loan till the end of the season in The Times. Now that would be a good signing. Width and the ability to go past players.
Rumours about Januzaj from United on loan till the end of the season in The Times. Now that would be a good signing. Width and the ability to go past players.
We cant have 2 United players on loan at the same time......so Cleverley would have to be sent back
things have gone pretty quiet on the Scott Sinclair front
Rumours about Januzaj from United on loan till the end of the season in The Times. Now that would be a good signing. Width and the ability to go past players.
and I thought Christmas had passed. Please let it be so
We cant have 2 United players on loan at the same time......so Cleverley would have to be sent back
Even more astoundingly, for the next three and a half years, so say the same publication.80k a week apparently! Unfuckingbelieveable. Hope their throwing in Altidore as a makeweight
70k according to the Guardian.
Staggering stupidity.
things have gone pretty quiet on the Scott Sinclair front
Rumours about Januzaj from United on loan till the end of the season in The Times. Now that would be a good signing. Width and the ability to go past players.
and I thought Christmas had passed. Please let it be so
We cant have 2 United players on loan at the same time......so Cleverley would have to be sent back
They won't send Cleverley back before the Liverpool game for fear of a peaceful protest turning into riots. ;)
Grant Holt is injured. At least that won't happen again. :)Y'know, I wouldn't put it past us.
Rumours about Januzaj from United on loan till the end of the season in The Times. Now that would be a good signing. Width and the ability to go past players.
and I thought Christmas had passed. Please let it be so
We cant have 2 United players on loan at the same time......so Cleverley would have to be sent back
They won't send Cleverley back before the Liverpool game for fear of a peaceful protest turning into riots. ;)
Can't you loan two from a club?
Rumours about Januzaj from United on loan till the end of the season in The Times. Now that would be a good signing. Width and the ability to go past players.
and I thought Christmas had passed. Please let it be so
We cant have 2 United players on loan at the same time......so Cleverley would have to be sent back
They won't send Cleverley back before the Liverpool game for fear of a peaceful protest turning into riots. ;)
Can't you loan two from a club?
Prem clubs.....No. You can't just send Cleverley back then get the other overrated Januzaj either, Cleverley must be recalled and that isn't likely.
Send Cleverley back regardless.
Send Cleverley back regardless.
;D
I can't believe Sunderland have got someone interested in Altidore.
I can't believe Sunderland have got someone interested in Altidore.He's just not suited to the Premier League. Given how well he did in the Eredivisie, it wouldn't surprise me at all if he scores more than Defoe did in Toronto.
Just left Belfry. Noticed reg D3FOE in car park
Just sayin
Good for him. Personalised number plates are for knobheads.
Good for him. Personalised number plates are for knobheads.
Good for him. Personalised number plates are for knobheads.
I have AVFC01 as my personal number plate
Be afraid. Be very afraid.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30822128
Good for him. Personalised number plates are for knobheads.
In fairness to Defoe my dad used to work for a children's hospice and Defoe visited one day. He said he was one of the most polite and friendly people they'd ever had visit and that he was amazing with the children.
Good for him. Personalised number plates are for knobheads.
In fairness to Defoe my dad used to work for a children's hospice and Defoe visited one day. He said he was one of the most polite and friendly people they'd ever had visit and that he was amazing with the children.
Defoe is Ok. I had a five minute conversation with him last year when he was in the Black Country opening a clothes shop. He said 'Villa are a big club,very big' and he knew the year we won the European Cup. That surprised me!
Good for him. Personalised number plates are for knobheads.
In fairness to Defoe my dad used to work for a children's hospice and Defoe visited one day. He said he was one of the most polite and friendly people they'd ever had visit and that he was amazing with the children.
Defoe is Ok. I had a five minute conversation with him last year when he was in the Black Country opening a clothes shop. He said 'Villa are a big club,very big' and he knew the year we won the European Cup. That surprised me!
80k a week apparently! Unfuckingbelieveable. Hope their throwing in Altidore as a makeweightCalling villakicks to the transfer thread, Villakicks to the transfer thread
PSG want Benteke apparently.
I thought the cash flow had slowed, hence Falcao being at United.
I thought the cash flow had slowed, hence Falcao being at United.
He's on loan from Monaco isn't he?
I thought the cash flow had slowed, hence Falcao being at United.
He's on loan from Monaco isn't he?
Good for him. Personalised number plates are for knobheads.
In fairness to Defoe my dad used to work for a children's hospice and Defoe visited one day. He said he was one of the most polite and friendly people they'd ever had visit and that he was amazing with the children.
Defoe is Ok. I had a five minute conversation with him last year when he was in the Black Country opening a clothes shop. He said 'Villa are a big club,very big' and he knew the year we won the European Cup. That surprised me!
Did he mention if we were ever in for him?
It could be suicide to let him go in January, but PSG would pay big. All would then depend on whether we could get someone in, even on loan, that could weigh in with 7-8 goals between now and the end of the season, which is very unlikely.
I was staggered to see Luiz in the FIFA team of the year the other day.
I was staggered to see Luiz in the FIFA team of the year the other day.
PSG want Benteke apparently.
A couple of reports on Twitter have linked us (along with others) to Cristian Rodriguez, a left-winger from Atletico Madrid.
PSG want Benteke apparently.That was the moose to talksport doing a thing where he pulled a random player from one hat and a random club from another. Colin Murray came up with it yesterday saying it'd be as accurate as his normal transfer gossip round up
Chelsea looking to offload Salah, can we use the rest of the Cleverley money and write an IOU for the rest.
Chelsea looking to offload Salah, can we use the rest of the Cleverley money and write an IOU for the rest.
Salah would be bloody brilliant.
Chelsea looking to offload Salah, can we use the rest of the Cleverley money and write an IOU for the rest.
Salah would be bloody brilliant.
Yep, but I can't see that one happening unless he is available on loan. We could just do with two functional wide players who are able to deliver a decent ball into the box on a somewhat regular basis.
I was staggered to see Luiz in the FIFA team of the year the other day.
I think that was a misprint for Lulz.
Lambert saying nothing happening with Sinclair, fee and wages both a problem.
Fee = £3m.
Disappointing to hear that's a problem, even if there would then be the wages to consider.
Lambert saying nothing happening with Sinclair, fee and wages both a problem.
Fee = £3m.
Disappointing to hear that's a problem, even if there would then be the wages to consider.
Sinclair is just another bentley
Lambert saying nothing happening with Sinclair, fee and wages both a problem.
Fee = £3m.
Disappointing to hear that's a problem, even if there would then be the wages to consider.
If the fee of £3m is a problem Randy as screwed us over yet again.
Lambert saying nothing happening with Sinclair, fee and wages both a problem.
Fee = £3m.
Disappointing to hear that's a problem, even if there would then be the wages to consider.
If the fee of £3m is a problem Randy as screwed us over yet again.
How much have we just paid for Gil?
Lambert saying nothing happening with Sinclair, fee and wages both a problem.
Fee = £3m.
Disappointing to hear that's a problem, even if there would then be the wages to consider.
If the fee of £3m is a problem Randy as screwed us over yet again.
How much have we just paid for Gil?
About £3.5m which in todays market is a cheap gamble yet again on an unknown quantity at this level.
I hope we don't pay money for Sinclair now. Take him on loan till the end of the season with an option to make it permanent in the summer.
I don't really want him anyway. Much prefer taking a chance on a player from Europe, like Gil.
Lambert saying nothing happening with Sinclair, fee and wages both a problem.
Fee = £3m.
Disappointing to hear that's a problem, even if there would then be the wages to consider.
If the fee of £3m is a problem Randy as screwed us over yet again.
How much have we just paid for Gil?
About £3.5m which in todays market is a cheap gamble yet again on an unknown quantity at this level.
So in what way is that Lerner screwing us over?
Lambert saying nothing happening with Sinclair, fee and wages both a problem.
Fee = £3m.
Disappointing to hear that's a problem, even if there would then be the wages to consider.
If the fee of £3m is a problem Randy as screwed us over yet again.
How much have we just paid for Gil?
About £3.5m which in todays market is a cheap gamble yet again on an unknown quantity at this level.
So in what way is that Lerner screwing us over?
So in what way is that Lerner screwing us over? By hardly investing for four years, by selling our best players, by not attending games, by hardly muttering a word to the fans through the press.
Lambert saying nothing happening with Sinclair, fee and wages both a problem.
Fee = £3m.
Disappointing to hear that's a problem, even if there would then be the wages to consider.
If the fee of £3m is a problem Randy as screwed us over yet again.
How much have we just paid for Gil?
About £3.5m which in todays market is a cheap gamble yet again on an unknown quantity at this level.
So in what way is that Lerner screwing us over?
So in what way is that Lerner screwing us over? By hardly investing for four years, by selling our best players, by not attending games, by hardly muttering a word to the fans through the press.
Lambert saying nothing happening with Sinclair, fee and wages both a problem.
Fee = £3m.
Disappointing to hear that's a problem, even if there would then be the wages to consider.
If the fee of £3m is a problem Randy as screwed us over yet again.
How much have we just paid for Gil?
About £3.5m which in todays market is a cheap gamble yet again on an unknown quantity at this level.
So in what way is that Lerner screwing us over?
So in what way is that Lerner screwing us over? By hardly investing for four years, by selling our best players, by not attending games, by hardly muttering a word to the fans through the press.
If we're even considering Sinclair it makes the decision not to offer Albrighton a new deal last summer bone-headed in the extreme.
Yes, he only came to life against his old club on Sat after being benched/injured for the first half of the season but he did more than enough the last few months of last season to warrant a new deal. Especially when you see how little the likes of N'Zogbia continue to contribute.
We mightn't have offered him what Leicester did but he seems a good sort, Marc, who may have settled for less at the club he'd been at all his life.
Benteke would have had a hat-trick on Saturday with the sitters Nugent missed from Albrighton's crosses.
Are you saying Randy Lerner is doing a good job? Seriously? The first four years without a doubt but the last four years?
As chairman he has to take some responsibility for the mess were in. He is throwing just enough at us just to keep us solvent.
His lack of involvement in coming to games is scandalous.
Were crying out for leadership.
His behaviour reminds me of a 'dad' who got bored with his family and pays just enough child maintenance to stay out of court.
Are you saying Randy Lerner is doing a good job? Seriously? The first four years without a doubt but the last four years?
As chairman he has to take some responsibility for the mess were in. He is throwing just enough at us just to keep us solvent.
His lack of involvement in coming to games is scandalous.
Were crying out for leadership.
His behaviour reminds me of a 'dad' who got bored with his family and pays just enough child maintenance to stay out of court.
Until Lerner moves on or completely changes his approach then nothing is going to change significantly. Sacking Lambert, which he deserves, might improve things slightly but the new manager would still have to operate under the same conditions.Are you saying Randy Lerner is doing a good job? Seriously? The first four years without a doubt but the last four years?
As chairman he has to take some responsibility for the mess were in. He is throwing just enough at us just to keep us solvent.
His lack of involvement in coming to games is scandalous.
Were crying out for leadership.
His behaviour reminds me of a 'dad' who got bored with his family and pays just enough child maintenance to stay out of court.
The cut backs he has made have had an effect on what's happened, of course it has. It would be stupid and wrong to suggest otherwise but like I said earlier, he couldn't keep paying out £6-£7m on players forever.
Despite those cut backs, look at our squad. It's good enough to be winning more games than we have, never mind scoring more than 12 goals.
Are you saying Randy Lerner is doing a good job? Seriously? The first four years without a doubt but the last four years?
As chairman he has to take some responsibility for the mess were in. He is throwing just enough at us just to keep us solvent.
His lack of involvement in coming to games is scandalous.
Were crying out for leadership.
His behaviour reminds me of a 'dad' who got bored with his family and pays just enough child maintenance to stay out of court.
Say what you might about O'Neill's profligacy, and he was - there's no getting away from that, but as soon as Lerner took matters into his own hands the decision making at the club has been truly abysmal.If he hadn't isn't there an argument that we would have completely spiraled into a huge debt?
Hopefully Lambert can sort out a decent player for 3m rather than an underplayed, overrated, overpaid prima donna.Yes.
If he hadn't isn't there an argument that we would have completely spiraled into a huge debt?I don't think anyone denies Lerner had to rein things in but it was the speed and severity with which he did it that we've not recovered from.
I know theres been crazy plans, ideas and changes in direction. Most of which have not worked out but taking the powers away from MON had to happen, the spending had to slow down or stop and the wage bill had to be trimmed.
Ok, true. What baffled me was during all these years after MON we still have had some big signings with big salaries in Hutton, Given N'Zog and Bent. I know Bent was certainly required and saved our bacon but these signings went against the grain from MON walking.If he hadn't isn't there an argument that we would have completely spiraled into a huge debt?I don't think anyone denies Lerner had to rein things in but it was the speed and severity with which he did it that we've not recovered from.
I know theres been crazy plans, ideas and changes in direction. Most of which have not worked out but taking the powers away from MON had to happen, the spending had to slow down or stop and the wage bill had to be trimmed.
Say what you might about O'Neill's profligacy, and he was - there's no getting away from that, but as soon as Lerner took matters into his own hands the decision making at the club has been truly abysmal.
Say what you might about O'Neill's profligacy, and he was - there's no getting away from that, but as soon as Lerner took matters into his own hands the decision making at the club has been truly abysmal.
The decision making that led to handing MON a blank chequebook was more damaging.
Say what you might about O'Neill's profligacy, and he was - there's no getting away from that, but as soon as Lerner took matters into his own hands the decision making at the club has been truly abysmal.
The decision making that led to handing MON a blank chequebook was more damaging.
They were both damaging - the leaving MON in charge of the chequebook, and everything that came after he'd gone, too.
The thing is, when MON was spending the money, we had no idea how dangerous the finances were getting (partly because General K used to tell us not to worry our little heads about the money, they knew what they were doing, when they quite clearly did not), and then when he'd gone and Lerner had to make the big decisions all on his own, it became at first a mess, and then a mess that he didn't really give a shit about.
I am not having much of the criticism of Lerner (ie the mental "he's taking money out of the club" line that keeps coming up despite the huge evidence to the contrary), and I defended him longer than most, but I'll never forgive him his sudden, abrupt decision to not give a fuck any more.
All that "we'll be here through thick and thin" nonsense the General used to tell us, and the very instant it first became thin rather than thick, they just stopped giving a toss pretty much overnight.
Really disappointing it turned out like that.
yes according to the club he's returned as a 'man' apparently. That came as something of a shock to me because I always thought he was, but perhaps he had some sort of sexual orientation crisis at Chavski which explained his lack of form for years.
yes according to the club he's returned as a 'man' apparently. That came as something of a shock to me because I always thought he was, but perhaps he had some sort of sexual orientation crisis at Chavski which explained his lack of form for years.
Wasn't his nickname at Atletico as a youngster 'El Nino'? (with a squiggly accent on the second n), meaning "the kid"?
Is probably a reference to that.
Rumours are going around that we could be signing Zakaria Bakkali from PSV.
they also want to free up a non EU space in their squad to put their summer signing Correa in.
Wiki says he's 18 and 5 ft 4.They call him the Barry Bannan of the Maghreb.
Say what you might about O'Neill's profligacy, and he was - there's no getting away from that, but as soon as Lerner took matters into his own hands the decision making at the club has been truly abysmal.
The decision making that led to handing MON a blank chequebook was more damaging.
They were both damaging - the leaving MON in charge of the chequebook, and everything that came after he'd gone, too.
The thing is, when MON was spending the money, we had no idea how dangerous the finances were getting (partly because General K used to tell us not to worry our little heads about the money, they knew what they were doing, when they quite clearly did not), and then when he'd gone and Lerner had to make the big decisions all on his own, it became at first a mess, and then a mess that he didn't really give a shit about.
I am not having much of the criticism of Lerner (ie the mental "he's taking money out of the club" line that keeps coming up despite the huge evidence to the contrary), and I defended him longer than most, but I'll never forgive him his sudden, abrupt decision to not give a fuck any more.
All that "we'll be here through thick and thin" nonsense the General used to tell us, and the very instant it first became thin rather than thick, they just stopped giving a toss pretty much overnight.
Really disappointing it turned out like that.
When did that happen though? The signing of Bent and others in January 2011 would suggest he was still engaged at that point. I think the McLeish appointment probably signalled the end of any real ambition.
Rumours are going around that we could be signing Zakaria Bakkali from PSV.
Say what you might about O'Neill's profligacy, and he was - there's no getting away from that, but as soon as Lerner took matters into his own hands the decision making at the club has been truly abysmal.
The decision making that led to handing MON a blank chequebook was more damaging.
They were both damaging - the leaving MON in charge of the chequebook, and everything that came after he'd gone, too.
The thing is, when MON was spending the money, we had no idea how dangerous the finances were getting (partly because General K used to tell us not to worry our little heads about the money, they knew what they were doing, when they quite clearly did not), and then when he'd gone and Lerner had to make the big decisions all on his own, it became at first a mess, and then a mess that he didn't really give a shit about.
I am not having much of the criticism of Lerner (ie the mental "he's taking money out of the club" line that keeps coming up despite the huge evidence to the contrary), and I defended him longer than most, but I'll never forgive him his sudden, abrupt decision to not give a fuck any more.
All that "we'll be here through thick and thin" nonsense the General used to tell us, and the very instant it first became thin rather than thick, they just stopped giving a toss pretty much overnight.
Really disappointing it turned out like that.
When did that happen though? The signing of Bent and others in January 2011 would suggest he was still engaged at that point. I think the McLeish appointment probably signalled the end of any real ambition.
When we cashed in on the likes Young and Downing and brought in McLeish.
EPL survival has been the aim of our board since that summer.
In hindsight Lambert made a truly awful decision to leave Norwich for us.
Stoke are letting Huth out on loan. Possible option as Glass Ron is injured for a change.
Matt Jarvis linked, that seems more likely unfortunately
Matt Jarvis linked, that seems more likely unfortunately
Have to say I quite liked Jarvis.
And Huth would be a good signing, too.
The more centre halves we sign the more injuries we seemingly get. I genuinely thought with five at our disposal it wouldn't be a problem this year.
Matt Jarvis linked, that seems more likely unfortunately
Have to say I quite liked Jarvis.
And Huth would be a good signing, too.
They're both the type of players I'd expect to go to clubs like the Albion.
I like Jarvis when he was at the Wolves but hasn't done much at West Ham.
I'd be really upset if we're after Jarvis very average player
Nick Jarvis must be past it as a player now? He was hit and miss as a manger as well.
I'd be really upset if we're after Jarvis very average player
To be fair, three or four years ago we all had slightly higher expectations about the level of player that we should be signing than we perhaps do now.I'd be really upset if we're after Jarvis very average player
I used to work with a Wolves fan, and a while back, Jarvis was linked to us.
I mentioned it to said Wolves fan, who said "Jarvis isn't anywhere near good enough to play for you", which I thought was quite touchingly honest. He wasn't taking the piss, either.
Stoke are letting Huth out on loan. Possible option as Glass Ron is injured for a change.
Huth to Villa? Seems to be on according to Talksport. Just call me mystic Damo. PM me for this weeks lottery numbers.
Aston Villa are considering a surprise move for Lazio defender Michael Ciani, 30. (Times - subscription required)
I've never seen it with Jarvis at all. He had one decent year but got found out. He's another one with only one trick and it's so long ago that I can't remember what it was, but I do remember you could read it from the TV every but as easily as you can read Ashley Young's "I'm gonna whip this in with my right . . . No I've cut inside into my left" trick
Saw 5 minutes of West Ham the other day and Jarvis had the ball and I thought 'I'd forgotten that he'd gone there'. Really can't remember him doing anything since leaving Wolves.It's safe to say that West Ham probably haven't had value out of the near £11m that they spent on him.
Nick Jarvis must be past it as a player now? He was hit and miss as a manger as well.
IF we got him cheap would it be a plea bargain?haha...I raise you
I thankyew...
He may well be, but he is only 17!
He may well be, but he is only 17!
Although the senior side has to be the priority, our youth system should be identifying and recruiting good young talent so maybe there's something there?
Although the senior side has to be the priority, our youth system should be identifying and recruiting good young talent so maybe there's something there?
Leeds fan are talking about him as a £15m player already, and we don't even spend that on first-team players!
He may well be, but he is only 17!
Maybe Lambert is planning to give up on "our new style" and return to "young and hungry".
I was happy to read that up to "give up"!He may well be, but he is only 17!
Maybe Lambert is planning to give up on "our new style" and return to "young and hungry".
He may well be, but he is only 17!
Maybe Lambert is planning to give up on "our new style" and return to "young and hungry".He may well be, but he is only 17!
Maybe Lambert is planning to give up on "our new style" and return to "young and hungry".
I give it until the Summer and this "approach" will be back again :-(
He may well be, but he is only 17!
Maybe Lambert is planning to give up on "our new style" and return to "young and hungry".
I give it until the Summer and this "approach" will be back again :-(
He may be a madman but if balotelli is out of favour how about Delph going to anfield and we take the Italian on loan?
Nah probably not
He may be a madman but if balotelli is out of favour how about Delph going to anfield and we take the Italian on loan?
Nah probably not
Yep, just what we need, a stroppy overgrown man-baby with the emotional, hormonal imbalance of a 15 year old girl up front.
He may be a madman but if balotelli is out of favour how about Delph going to anfield and we take the Italian on loan?
Nah probably not
Yep, just what we need, a stroppy overgrown man-baby with the emotional, hormonal imbalance of a 15 year old girl up front.
He may be a madman but if balotelli is out of favour how about Delph going to anfield and we take the Italian on loan?
Nah probably not
Yep, just what we need, a stroppy overgrown man-baby with the emotional, hormonal imbalance of a 15 year old girl up front.
Say what you might about O'Neill's profligacy, and he was - there's no getting away from that, but as soon as Lerner took matters into his own hands the decision making at the club has been truly abysmal.If he hadn't isn't there an argument that we would have completely spiraled into a huge debt?
I know theres been crazy plans, ideas and changes in direction. Most of which have not worked out but taking the powers away from MON had to happen, the spending had to slow down or stop and the wage bill had to be trimmed.
He may be a madman but if balotelli is out of favour how about Delph going to anfield and we take the Italian on loan?
Nah probably not
Yep, just what we need, a stroppy overgrown man-baby with the emotional, hormonal imbalance of a 15 year old girl up front.
A bit of entertainment though
Here's a thought. How about recalling Helenius back off loan? Something a bit different to what we already have. There's also some chap called Callum Robinson who he hasn't used since pointlessly calling him back from Preston.
Oh God. I've just had a vision. A Carlton Cole-shaped vision.
The way we're playing at the moment it really makes no difference who most of the players are.
Can't blame him I suppose. This place won't hold good memories.
Didn't he say he doesn't want to come back?Nope.
If he doesn't want to come back then his contract should be cancelled.Why cancel his contract when, if he doesn't have a future with us, he's still a saleable asset who could potentially raise an, albeit small, transfer fee.
Here's a thought. How about recalling Helenius back off loan? Something a bit different to what we already have. There's also some chap called Callum Robinson who he hasn't used since pointlessly calling him back from Preston.
Helenius fits the bill from a footballing perspective, if I remember correctly. Problem is, he probably would not be mentally 'tuned in' after having had a false start to his Villa career before.
I disagree. Yes, the unimaginative, riskless tactics would ensue, but it’d certainly make a difference if Weimann was replaced by a player with a first-touch, or Gabby by a player with some guile and nous. We’re never going to be Barcelona under Lambert, but better players would certainly help us to get closer to the likes of Stoke.
We could really do with a bit of width coming into the side and I wouldn't be averse to Robbie Keane on a short loan either.
If he doesn't want to come back then his contract should be cancelled.Why cancel his contract when, if he doesn't have a future with us, he's still a saleable asset who could potentially raise an, albeit small, transfer fee.
Cancelling his contract will mean walking away from any transfer fee, plus paying up his contract without any possibility of him playing. We had enough of that guff with the bomb squad.
This would be the same, without disturbing the youth team's training.
We could really do with a bit of width coming into the side and I wouldn't be averse to Robbie Keane on a short loan either.
As good as he was last time, I don't see any real need for Keane as Gil and Cole (and Grealish if Lambert would use him properly) already play where he would.
Lambert Targets Mirallas in Transfer Swoop Shock
Aston Villa Manager Paul Lambert left a volley for his critics late on Monday by revealing that he is poised to make a transfer swoop for Everton midfielder Kevin Mirallas.
Lambert revealed that he had been eyeing Mirallas ever since he demonstrated the shocking form in front of goal that epitomises the Lambert "style" of football at Villa Park.
"When I saw that lad march confidently to the penalty spot with that ball tucked under his arm and then bang it off of the post, I knew that he was the missing piece of the puzzle here at Villa Park," said Lambert.
"I have no doubt that Kevin, when he comes out of hiding, will describe his own performance today as excellent. Had the supporters been 100% behind him, he'd have scored that penalty."
Aston Villa owner Randy Lerner was unavailable for comment.
The latest Twitter murmurings are about a winger at Bordeaux called Thomas Toure...
Are Dortmund picking up now? They were bottom a couple of weeks back?
Anyhow, in the picture he looked terribly like a French Gabby!
The latest Twitter murmurings are about a winger at Bordeaux called Thomas Toure...
Saw that too in the Mail this morning, it fails to mention that Dortmund are also in the mix.
If you look on YouTube for him the first few clips of him are his meat and two veg popping out during a game.
No Milner/Delph swap deal chat yet..... :)I'd like to see Sanchez as captain...he's a committed, talented player, experienced and has played in the most recent WC for a team who did particularly well...and he probably knows enough languages to communicate with everybody....except Gabby.
Dont think Milner is good enough for Arsenal to be honest, they have the likes of Ramsey as box to box midfielders and need more of a holding midfielder brute like our man Carlos Sanchez
Milner back as captain for us perhaps
I'd like to see Sanchez as captain...he's a committed, talented player, experienced and has played in the most recent WC for a team who did particularly well...and he probably knows enough languages to communicate with everybody....except Gabby.
So...just Gabby then?I'd like to see Sanchez as captain...he's a committed, talented player, experienced and has played in the most recent WC for a team who did particularly well...and he probably knows enough languages to communicate with everybody....except Gabby.
Got some top top ITK knowledge for ya:
One of my pupils met him at the Villa kids christmas party thing and apparently his English is not good, so maybe not for a little while yet.
I'd like to see Sanchez as captain...he's a committed, talented player, experienced and has played in the most recent WC for a team who did particularly well...and he probably knows enough languages to communicate with everybody....except Gabby.
Got some top top ITK knowledge for ya:
One of my pupils met him at the Villa kids christmas party thing and apparently his English is not good, so maybe not for a little while yet.
The latest Twitter murmurings are about a winger at Bordeaux called Thomas Toure...
Saw that too in the Mail this morning, it fails to mention that Dortmund are also in the mix.
If you look on YouTube for him the first few clips of him are his meat and two veg popping out during a game.
Judging by Lamberts comments in the Mail, he's looking for another striker.
Manchester City are running out of time to tie James Milner down to a new deal, with the two parties still a long way off reaching an agreement and the England international currently weighing up three proposals from clubs in Spain and Italy including a particularly attractive pre-contract offer that he would be free to sign this month.
While there is no guarantee that Milner will accept any of the opportunities in front of him at the moment – any pre-contract agreement with an overseas club would need to be signed before the end of the January window – the chances of the midfielder remaining at City are receding by the week. Arsenal and Liverpool remain the most likely destinations if Milner chooses to remain in the Premier League after his contract expires in the summer.
City have not yet given up hope of keeping Milner, who joined them from Aston Villa in a £26m deal during 2010. Club officials met with his representatives last week and they are not a million miles apart when it comes to an agreement on the figures put forward in a proposed contract.
For Milner, however, the financial package is not going to determine where and when he signs his next deal. If the former Leeds trainee leaves on a free transfer under the Bosman ruling at the end of the season, he will be well remunerated wherever he pitches up. The burning issue, in his eyes, is what happens on the pitch over the next few years. He turned 29 this month and wants to be playing every week.
Milner gets on well with Manuel Pellegrini, City’s manager, but there is no escaping the fact that he is frustrated with the amount of playing time that he has had under the Chilean and Roberto Mancini before that. Although Milner has featured more regularly this season – he has started 11 Premier League games compared to 12 in the whole of the previous campaign – he is aware that injuries to key players, including Samir Nasri, Yaya Touré and David Silva, have helped his cause at times. When everyone is fit, Milner knows he is not a mandatory pick and is more likely to find himself on the bench
Being substituted at half-time on Sunday, in the 2-0 home defeat against Arsenal, was a big disappointment and will have done nothing to allay concerns about how he is viewed at City, especially as Nasri was injured for that match and Touré away at the Africa Cup of Nations.
Pellegrini has spoken warmly about Milner’s attributes on plenty of occasions and often expressed his wish to hold onto the player. Yet there was bemusement among Milner’s camp when the City manager intimated earlier this month that an agreement between the club and player was imminent. “I hope that James will stay here and he will sign his contract in the next few days,” Pellegrini said following the 1-1 draw at Everton.
Despite regular and amicable talks with City, the bottom line is that Milner has never been close to signing . Furthermore, while it is likely that the two sides will get together again soon, there are no further discussions scheduled to take place. Perhaps most significantly, it is hard to see how City can satisfy Milner’s desire to be starting more matches.
While the prospect of playing abroad is appealing, and the formal offer that has been tabled in the past fortnight from a top European club has provided serious food for thought, Milner has more to take into consideration since becoming a father last year and it may well be that he arrives at the decision that the timing is not right to venture overseas.
All of which will encourage Arsenal and Liverpool – Chelsea tried to sign Milner when he joined City from Villa but are not believed to be interested this time round – that there is a golden opportunity to pick up an England international, still under 30, on a free transfer in less than six months’ time.
I'd like to see him back and let Cleverly go.
I'd like to see him back and let Cleverly go.
Well clearly, but it's never going to happen.
If I were Milner I would be looking for the move aboard to play with team like Atletico Madrid rather than Real Madrid or Barcelona.
The one thing about Milner is if he is given the opportunity to play in the middle consistently he'll do well. He will be in terrific shape regardless that he will turn 30 next year. I'm way past him ever joining us but I can see him at Liverpool replacing Gerrard next season.
If I were Milner I would be looking for the move aboard to play with team like Atletico Madrid rather than Real Madrid or Barcelona.
If I were Milner I would be looking for the move aboard to play with team like Atletico Madrid rather than Real Madrid or Barcelona.
He could look but he isn't near good enough for either of those sides. Can't imagine Spanish clubs paying the kind of money he is looking for. The guardian report reads like it was written by his agent. Milner's lack of technical ability has caught him out at the highest level (City and International).
He has nowhere near Lampard's knack of ghosting into the box and scoring. Even if deployed centrally regularly I imagine most of his work would be in the middle third.
Like Tom Cleverley....
That'll be his lack of pace not his technical ability. He was better central because pace is less important int he middle and his work rate, passing and drive showed how good he can be. His technique is actually very good, he's got a great touch, strikes the ball clean and has the ability to make himself space in tight situations, that's all technical skills. What he's critics focus on is inability to go past a player and then burn them for pace, which is why he's not suited to playing wde at the highest level and is why City and England have wasted him. I think he's got a simmilar skillset to Lampard, now can you imagine Lampard looking top class as a right winger?
Still think Joel Campbell at Arsenal would be a decent striker loan if he's available.
Who Lavezzi? If he was available he'd be spoilt for choice with CL clubs I'd imagine. Or is it someone else your are referring to?
We aren't signing anyone else are we ..
We aren't signing anyone else are we ..
I am not going to build up my hopes this year. We can't even pretend Defoe is at The Belfry.We aren't signing anyone else are we ..
To be fair to Lambert, he is usually pretty active towards the end of the window.
Like Tom Cleverley....
Poor old Tom seems out of his depth in the EPL not to mind international levelThat'll be his lack of pace not his technical ability. He was better central because pace is less important int he middle and his work rate, passing and drive showed how good he can be. His technique is actually very good, he's got a great touch, strikes the ball clean and has the ability to make himself space in tight situations, that's all technical skills. What he's critics focus on is inability to go past a player and then burn them for pace, which is why he's not suited to playing wde at the highest level and is why City and England have wasted him. I think he's got a simmilar skillset to Lampard, now can you imagine Lampard looking top class as a right winger?
Jordan Henderson would be a more apt comparison, think you are seriously under rating Lampard there. Henderson was out of his depth at the World Cup tactically and technically when he was shown up as an athlete rather than a footballer. Do you have any confidence that Milner would have been any better? I dont to be honest, not at that level anyway. Neither have the quick feet to turn quickly on the ball, both lack decision making on when to play it short or long and positionally both struggle. Sure they can both be very effective central midfielders in the EPL but international level and top European club football calls for a lot more.
Beckham, Ray Houghton, Nol Solano, Bernd Schneider - all names from the top of my head all were cracking wide players despite not having much pace. They had guile though which Milner for all his energy never really had.
Still think Joel Campbell at Arsenal would be a decent striker loan if he's available.
I think I read that he was going to Socieadad for 8m, not sure if we've got that sort of money
Comparing Milner and Lampard isn't a good comparison. Lampard's best attribute was his goals from midfield. Other than that he didn't do much, certainly not for England where he disappeared most of the time. Milner on the other hand never had a sustained chance to score goals from midfield but was full of energy. I thought Milner in the centre was more like Gerrard so if Milner did go to Liverpool, it would make sense if they used him in midfield.
would it not be better/easier for Milner to just have his own dedicated thread?
would it not be better/easier for Milner to just have his own dedicated thread?
Give him his own web site. Bloody ace our Jimmy.
Waste of talent, no matter how many medals he now has.
Milner has been learning Spanish for the last two years. That's my ITK.
Milner has been learning Spanish for the last two years. That's my ITK.
longer than that, he was learning it whilst at villa.
Toure hooray hooray oh
not that one
How much do you think it is going to take to force Blues into selling Demarai Gray? Looks a pretty exciting young player.
would it not be better/easier for Milner to just have his own dedicated thread?I've never quite understood the adoration that Milner commands, a player who has broken his contract at every club up to now as opposed to Barry who was a loyal servant of our club but always gets a dogs abuse every time he returns
Isn't Milner out of contract in the summer? I'm over the Barry thing now, but I'd imagine it was that poorly-advised newspaper article that did it. Plus I just think he's a little bit of a knob.
How much do you think it is going to take to force Blues into selling Demarai Gray? Looks a pretty exciting young player.
Milner ran his nuts off for Villa, and as midlanders we love hard working players. Barry was classy. Both deserve respect for coming from a time when we were good to watch and competitive, comparable with some of the better teams around us. Not the shower of shit we are currently served.
Barry was enemy number one under O'Leary. The amount of people slagging him off at away games was unreal. I can remember losing to Sheffield United away in the cup under Dolly and Barry scored a decent goal, the bloke stood near us who had been slagging him off all game thus far refused to celebrate. Things change, including opinions, such as Barry's "10 good years".
Petrol got stick for not getting stuck in in the early days, then not being able to run after 60 minutes towards the end of mon but that must have been more to do with tactics than anything else
Barry was excellent for us mostly and so was Milner. Both did the right thing moving on.
Thankfully, you've poured a little oil on the water there Doc!Petrol got stick for not getting stuck in in the early days, then not being able to run after 60 minutes towards the end of mon but that must have been more to do with tactics than anything else
Barry was excellent for us mostly and so was Milner. Both did the right thing moving on.
This will only fuel more puns I'm afraid :)
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Petrol got stick for not getting stuck in in the early days, then not being able to run after 60 minutes towards the end of mon but that must have been more to do with tactics than anything else
Barry was excellent for us mostly and so was Milner. Both did the right thing moving on.
This will only fuel more puns I'm afraid :)
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That doesn't make him "snide" though. Man City made an acceptable bid for him, he then chose to accept their contract offer. It's no different to nearly every transfer, including the ones that we make.Milner ran his nuts off for Villa, and as midlanders we love hard working players. Barry was classy. Both deserve respect for coming from a time when we were good to watch and competitive, comparable with some of the better teams around us. Not the shower of shit we are currently served.
Milner couldn't wait to get out of the door. Never understood the love-in for him on here.
Milner ran his nuts off for Villa, and as midlanders we love hard working players. Barry was classy. Both deserve respect for coming from a time when we were good to watch and competitive, comparable with some of the better teams around us. Not the shower of shit we are currently served.
Milner couldn't wait to get out of the door. Never understood the love-in for him on here.
That doesn't make him "snide" though. Man City made an acceptable bid for him, he then chose to accept their contract offer. It's no different to nearly every transfer, including the ones that we make.Milner ran his nuts off for Villa, and as midlanders we love hard working players. Barry was classy. Both deserve respect for coming from a time when we were good to watch and competitive, comparable with some of the better teams around us. Not the shower of shit we are currently served.
Milner couldn't wait to get out of the door. Never understood the love-in for him on here.
Milner ran his nuts off for Villa, and as midlanders we love hard working players. Barry was classy. Both deserve respect for coming from a time when we were good to watch and competitive, comparable with some of the better teams around us. Not the shower of shit we are currently served.
Milner couldn't wait to get out of the door. Never understood the love-in for him on here.
I am a little bit of the same opinion, though perhaps halfway between the 'love-in' and thinking this. My problem is that while I think he is and was a good player, he's never for me been quite as good as he has been cracked up to be
Does that mean then that any player who is transferred without announcing his intention to leave in advance is being "snide"? Because that's an awful lot of players who are being underhand if so.That doesn't make him "snide" though. Man City made an acceptable bid for him, he then chose to accept their contract offer. It's no different to nearly every transfer, including the ones that we make.Milner ran his nuts off for Villa, and as midlanders we love hard working players. Barry was classy. Both deserve respect for coming from a time when we were good to watch and competitive, comparable with some of the better teams around us. Not the shower of shit we are currently served.
Milner couldn't wait to get out of the door. Never understood the love-in for him on here.
It does in comparison to Barry. At least he was upfront in wanting to leave and explained it to the fans. Which obviously backfired somewhat but at least he thought the fans were owed an explanation. Milner on the other hand never once opened his mouth and couldn't wait to get out of the door. Yet one comes back and is applauded, the other is greeted with disdain.
I'll never understand some football fans.
Does that mean then that any player who is transferred without announcing his intention to leave in advance is being "snide"? Because that's an awful lot of players who are being underhand if so.That doesn't make him "snide" though. Man City made an acceptable bid for him, he then chose to accept their contract offer. It's no different to nearly every transfer, including the ones that we make.Milner ran his nuts off for Villa, and as midlanders we love hard working players. Barry was classy. Both deserve respect for coming from a time when we were good to watch and competitive, comparable with some of the better teams around us. Not the shower of shit we are currently served.
Milner couldn't wait to get out of the door. Never understood the love-in for him on here.
It does in comparison to Barry. At least he was upfront in wanting to leave and explained it to the fans. Which obviously backfired somewhat but at least he thought the fans were owed an explanation. Milner on the other hand never once opened his mouth and couldn't wait to get out of the door. Yet one comes back and is applauded, the other is greeted with disdain.
I'll never understand some football fans.
Personally I have no axe to grind with either player. Both left for more money and better prospects after Villa had agreed to sell them and both found what they were looking for.
Barry didn't Give shit,
for the majority of those 11 years no other team wanted him, yet EVERY time another team showed any interest he wanted to go.
Fuck Gareth Barry, he was here for a long time, we won fuck all and did pretty much fuck all in that time. He's no Hero.
I used to know a bloke whose wife left him, and he used to get every single conversation around to his ex wife. To say he was a bore is an understatement. This thread is pretty much the same, but with Barry/Milner in place of that lad's wife. Let's move on folks for heaven's sake.
What was the difference between Villa accepting a £12 million bid for Barry from Man City, him privately agreeing terms and signing for them and Aston Villa accepting a deal worth £26 million for Milner from Man City, him privately agreeing terms and signing for them? Why is Milner more a snide than Barry?
What was the difference between Villa accepting a £12 million bid for Barry from Man City, him privately agreeing terms and signing for them and Aston Villa accepting a deal worth £26 million for Milner from Man City, him privately agreeing terms and signing for them? Why is Milner more a snide than Barry?
Because Barry was on record saying he wanted to leave and told the fans so. However much it backfired at least he had the decency to say he wanted out, and after 11 years at one club I don't begrudge him.
To be honest, who can blame either player? They left to get trophies and more wages. Both succeeded and we went backwards.Their leaving was one of the many reasons that we went backwards.
And presumbly Milner's attitude towards his transfer was also worse than both Downing and Benteke, both of whom were quite clear that they wanted to leave us, just as Barry was before them.What was the difference between Villa accepting a £12 million bid for Barry from Man City, him privately agreeing terms and signing for them and Aston Villa accepting a deal worth £26 million for Milner from Man City, him privately agreeing terms and signing for them? Why is Milner more a snide than Barry?
Because Barry was on record saying he wanted to leave and told the fans so. However much it backfired at least he had the decency to say he wanted out, and after 11 years at one club I don't begrudge him.
I don't follow your logic. A player who handed in a trasnfer request under Gregory, who was off to Portsmouth until O'Neill came in and who pissed and moaned in the press about how much he wanted to play for Liverpool, having gone behind our backs with his best buddy Gerrard and Benitez (who was also gobbing off at the time) is somehow more snidey that Milner?
What was the difference between Villa accepting a £12 million bid for Barry from Man City, him privately agreeing terms and signing for them and Aston Villa accepting a deal worth £26 million for Milner from Man City, him privately agreeing terms and signing for them? Why is Milner more a snide than Barry?
Because Barry was on record saying he wanted to leave and told the fans so. However much it backfired at least he had the decency to say he wanted out, and after 11 years at one club I don't begrudge him.
I don't follow your logic. A player who handed in a trasnfer request under Gregory, who was off to Portsmouth until O'Neill came in and who pissed and moaned in the press about how much he wanted to play for Liverpool, having gone behind our backs with his best buddy Gerrard and Benitez (who was also gobbing off at the time) is somehow more snidey that Milner?
If Barry had not had the whole Liverpool come and get me plea and had just left quietly, as he did, for Man City, then at the time, I would have thought him less of a snide.
And presumbly Milner's attitude towards his transfer was also worse than both Downing and Benteke, both of whom were quite clear that they wanted to leave us, just as Barry was before them.What was the difference between Villa accepting a £12 million bid for Barry from Man City, him privately agreeing terms and signing for them and Aston Villa accepting a deal worth £26 million for Milner from Man City, him privately agreeing terms and signing for them? Why is Milner more a snide than Barry?
Because Barry was on record saying he wanted to leave and told the fans so. However much it backfired at least he had the decency to say he wanted out, and after 11 years at one club I don't begrudge him.
I don't follow your logic. A player who handed in a trasnfer request under Gregory, who was off to Portsmouth until O'Neill came in and who pissed and moaned in the press about how much he wanted to play for Liverpool, having gone behind our backs with his best buddy Gerrard and Benitez (who was also gobbing off at the time) is somehow more snidey that Milner?
Placing him on some sort of plinth because he ended up here for 11 years and that makes him a beacon of honour within football really fucks me off.No-one said he was a beacon of honour. He'd done very well for us for a long time and I was grateful to him for that.
Like I said before, the very moment a sniff of interest from any other club he couldn't wait to get out.
I used to know a bloke whose wife left him, and he used to get every single conversation around to his ex wife. To say he was a bore is an understatement. This thread is pretty much the same, but with Barry/Milner in place of that lad's wife. Let's move on folks for heaven's sake.
What was the difference between Villa accepting a £12 million bid for Barry from Man City, him privately agreeing terms and signing for them and Aston Villa accepting a deal worth £26 million for Milner from Man City, him privately agreeing terms and signing for them? Why is Milner more a snide than Barry?
I think we need to know more about Des Little's mate's ex missus. Why did she leave him? Was she a looker? Would we have taken her back in his shoes?
Milner left first chance he got = snide, but Barry, who tried to leave unsuccessfully three times before he finally did isn't?
I like them both and wish we still had them. I had no problem with how they both left, ultimately it made sense for them and they have the money and medals to show for it, but Barry had far more episodes of snideyness than Milner, as his career at us shows.
Milner left first chance he got = snide, but Barry, who tried to leave unsuccessfully three times before he finally did isn't?
I like them both and wish we still had them. I had no problem with how they both left, ultimately it made sense for them and they have the money and medals to show for it, but Barry had far more episodes of snideyness than Milner, as his career at us shows.
Barry gave nothing but 100% for Villa for 11 seasons, that's the main thing.
And Milner gave his all too for the time he was with us. Neither left in a snidey manner.
Milner left first chance he got = snide, but Barry, who tried to leave unsuccessfully three times before he finally did isn't?
I like them both and wish we still had them. I had no problem with how they both left, ultimately it made sense for them and they have the money and medals to show for it, but Barry had far more episodes of snideyness than Milner, as his career at us shows.
Barry gave nothing but 100% for Villa for 11 seasons, that's the main thing.
Fine.
Neither of them will be with us any time soon let's move on to more pressing matters.
Moves towards the exit at Lazio, who could take advantage of the winter transfer window to reduce squad numbers and, in particular, to release Michael Ciani. The defender, who is not in manager Stegano Pioli's plans, could end the season in the Premier League.
According to the Express & Star, Aston Villa could soon make a move for the French player, whose contract is nearing an end and which Lazio do not intend to renew for next season.
The problem with Barry leaving was the way he left for me. Firstly that pathetic whiny NOTW interview complete with picture of him looking sorry for himself. Secondly, saying in the same interview he would only leave us for a team playing Champions League football, then joining a team who wasn't.Nah, not for me.
He's nearly 31. Is it likely?Quote from: calcionews24.com (quick translation)Moves towards the exit at Lazio, who could take advantage of the winter transfer window to reduce squad numbers and, in particular, to release Michael Ciani. The defender, who is not in manager Stegano Pioli's plans, could end the season in the Premier League.
According to the Express & Star, Aston Villa could soon make a move for the French player, whose contract is nearing an end and which Lazio do not intend to renew for next season.
So there you go. It's an Italian article, quoting the Express & Star. Read into that what you will. We bought Kozak from Lazio, so there may be something in it, in the sense that it wouldn't be completely untried terrain.
Latest press conference says Sinclair deal dead and likely to be no more business this window ..oh joy
Latest press conference says Sinclair deal dead and likely to be no more business this window ..oh joyGood to see our owner is showing his support for our under pressure manager by backing him to the hilt. thank goodness we haven't got one of those foreign owners who talk big but don't deliver on their promises.
Latest press conference says Sinclair deal dead and likely to be no more business this window ..oh joyGood to see our owner is showing his support for our under pressure manager by backing him to the hilt. thank goodness we haven't got one of those foreign owners who talk big but don't deliver on their promises.
I'll be a tad disappointed if that's it for this window.
Ain't that the truth on all thatI'll be a tad disappointed if that's it for this window.
You'd be odds on to win the Understatement of the Year award for saying that.
I'm hoping its bullshit. God help us going into the final part of the season with this squad.
Ultimately of your house was up for sale you wouldn't spend £10,000 on a new kitchen would you? I just hope we can survive until we are sold.
I'll be a tad disappointed if that's it for this window.
You'd be odds on to win the Understatement of the Year award for saying that.
I'm hoping its bullshit. God help us going into the final part of the season with this squad.
I'll be a tad disappointed if that's it for this window.
You'd be odds on to win the Understatement of the Year award for saying that.
I'm hoping its bullshit. God help us going into the final part of the season with this squad.
I'll be a tad disappointed if that's it for this window.
You'd be odds on to win the Understatement of the Year award for saying that.
I'm hoping its bullshit. God help us going into the final part of the season with this squad.
I'll be a tad disappointed if that's it for this window.
You'd be odds on to win the Understatement of the Year award for saying that.
I'm hoping its bullshit. God help us going into the final part of the season with this squad.
It may just be a very cunning plan to lull clubs into thinking we have no money before we go on a spending spree.
Maybe Mr Fox has been appointed Professor of Cunning at Oxford University.
Ultimately of your house was up for sale you wouldn't spend £10,000 on a new kitchen would you? I just hope we can survive until we are sold.
I spent a bit more than that and put my house up for sale!
I'll be a tad disappointed if that's it for this window.
You'd be odds on to win the Understatement of the Year award for saying that.
I'm hoping its bullshit. God help us going into the final part of the season with this squad.
Ultimately of your house was up for sale you wouldn't spend £10,000 on a new kitchen would you? I just hope we can survive until we are sold.
I spent a bit more than that and put my house up for sale!
Your not Randolph Lerner though...
I'll be a tad disappointed if that's it for this window.
You'd be odds on to win the Understatement of the Year award for saying that.
I'm hoping its bullshit. God help us going into the final part of the season with this squad.
I'll be a tad disappointed if that's it for this window.
You'd be odds on to win the Understatement of the Year award for saying that.
I'm hoping its bullshit. God help us going into the final part of the season with this squad.
This squad is more than capable of finishing somehwere between 12th and 8th.
We have a really strong spine with a 20 goal a season striker at the top of it. The reason we're struggling is down to Lambert.
Lambert seemed his usual happy self in the conference and managed to suck any optimism or enthusiasm out of the room by the looks of it. Would love to know whether they are backing him or not. Ultimately of your house was up for sale you wouldn't spend £10,000 on a new kitchen would you? I just hope we can survive until we are sold.
would it not be better/easier for Milner to just have his own dedicated thread?I've never quite understood the adoration that Milner commands, a player who has broken his contract at every club up to now as opposed to Barry who was a loyal servant of our club but always gets a dogs abuse every time he returns
Ultimately of your house was up for sale you wouldn't spend £10,000 on a new kitchen would you? I just hope we can survive until we are sold.
I spent a bit more than that and put my house up for sale!
Your not Randolph Lerner though...
Are you sure? Has anyone ever seen Malandro and Randy Lerner is the same room? I think not.
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Lambert seemed his usual happy self in the conference and managed to suck any optimism or enthusiasm out of the room by the looks of it. Would love to know whether they are backing him or not. Ultimately of your house was up for sale you wouldn't spend £10,000 on a new kitchen would you? I just hope we can survive until we are sold.Depends if the kitchen is putting off would-be buyers ...
We need more this window. We clearly need a winger.
Lambert seemed his usual happy self in the conference and managed to suck any optimism or enthusiasm out of the room by the looks of it. Would love to know whether they are backing him or not. Ultimately of your house was up for sale you wouldn't spend £10,000 on a new kitchen would you? I just hope we can survive until we are sold.Depends if the kitchen is putting off would-be buyers ...
We need more this window. We clearly need a winger.
He doesn't believe in them. Alan Hutton can do everything up and down the wing!
Lambert seemed his usual happy self in the conference and managed to suck any optimism or enthusiasm out of the room by the looks of it. Would love to know whether they are backing him or not. Ultimately of your house was up for sale you wouldn't spend £10,000 on a new kitchen would you? I just hope we can survive until we are sold.Depends if the kitchen is putting off would-be buyers ...
Agree. I've always found putting in good kitchens and bathrooms helps you achieve best price and also faster sale. Anyway wandering off topic
We need more this window. We clearly need a winger.
He doesn't believe in them. Alan Hutton can do everything up and down the wing!
Apart from find a man from a simple cross.
More I think about it the more I think it's that numpty trying to stubborn. 11 goals in 22 and the only player in is a reserve player from Valencia. Seriously what the fuck. There is no way we can't afford Sinclair if we want him. Likewise if he is beyond us then any manager with such a pathetic forward line and a striker out all season would have alternative options. Just soo inept.
Lambert seemed his usual happy self in the conference and managed to suck any optimism or enthusiasm out of the room by the looks of it. Would love to know whether they are backing him or not. Ultimately of your house was up for sale you wouldn't spend £10,000 on a new kitchen would you? I just hope we can survive until we are sold.Depends if the kitchen is putting off would-be buyers ...
Agree. I've always found putting in good kitchens and bathrooms helps you achieve best price and also faster sale. Anyway wandering off topic
What me, him or both😉would it not be better/easier for Milner to just have his own dedicated thread?I've never quite understood the adoration that Milner commands, a player who has broken his contract at every club up to now as opposed to Barry who was a loyal servant of our club but always gets a dogs abuse every time he returns
Putting in 3 transfer requests, talking to Liverpool about a transfer whilst still under contract, dragging the club through the gutter press crying about how he wanted to go to Liverpool, lying that the club hadn't spoken to him about a new deal, coming on here or someone very close to him crying about his kids schooling, and never once putting in a transfer request. Loyal servant? Fucking wanker.
Very much my opinion.Decent coaching is needed more than anything else.I'll be a tad disappointed if that's it for this window.
You'd be odds on to win the Understatement of the Year award for saying that.
I'm hoping its bullshit. God help us going into the final part of the season with this squad.
This squad is more than capable of finishing somehwere between 12th and 8th.
We have a really strong spine with a 20 goal a season striker at the top of it. The reason we're struggling is down to Lambert.
To be honest, I ain't bothered if lambert isn't given any more money.This.
I don't think we are that desperate for new players right now, just someone who can make ones we have, play better.
He looked to me as dispirited as I imagine all of us are looking at the moment. Like the pilot of a plane whose engines have just stalled, he knows what going to happen but doesn't know how to restart them.
Can't believe they've let him go. He's never been given a chance.I guess you can't stand in the way of a player looking to play a higher standard of football.
Aston Villa have tied Easah Suliman down to a two-year professional deal in order to ward off interest from Bayern Munich and Liverpool.
The 16-year-old signed scholarship forms with Villa in the summer but had still been courted by a selection of Europe's biggest clubs.
However Suliman, who has captained England's Under 17 side, has agreed to commit his future to the Premier League outfit.
Aston Villa academy director Sean Kimberley said: 'We're delighted that Easah has signed his first professional contract with the club.
'Easah has been at the club through his foundation years at junior school and he's a Birmingham lad who's come through the local recruitment process.
'We've been able to develop young, local players over the years and it's great that we can continue to do that with Easah.
'He's going away with England U17s next month and he's continuing to make good progress both with them and here at Villa.
'He's at the start of his career now and everything is in front of him.
'The key for him now is to continue to work hard, to maintain the same excellent attitude he has displayed so far and to continue to learn from his coaches.
'Having fought off competition from home and abroad for his signature, everyone here at Villa will help him get the most out of his abilities and we're excited to work with him in the coming years.'
Strange but Johnson seems to be doing better than most on loan. Hope he goes on to fulfil his potential and have a good career.
"Teams know it can go up a few more pounds because people are desparate to get people in."
Everyone understand what he's talking about? He talks as if he's having a moan to his mates in the pub.
Strange but Johnson seems to be doing better than most on loan. Hope he goes on to fulfil his potential and have a good career.
I assume with Johnson it's a case of he's now 22, if we don't think he's close to the first team there's no point keeping him. I wish him well but he's probably another promising youngster who couldn't make the step up.
Strange but Johnson seems to be doing better than most on loan. Hope he goes on to fulfil his potential and have a good career.
I assume with Johnson it's a case of he's now 22, if we don't think he's close to the first team there's no point keeping him. I wish him well but he's probably another promising youngster who couldn't make the step up.
I didn't realise he was that age. A 22 year old striker probably isn't going to improve much.
Strange but Johnson seems to be doing better than most on loan. Hope he goes on to fulfil his potential and have a good career.
I assume with Johnson it's a case of he's now 22, if we don't think he's close to the first team there's no point keeping him. I wish him well but he's probably another promising youngster who couldn't make the step up.
I didn't realise he was that age. A 22 year old striker probably isn't going to improve much.
Said someone to Ian Wright once.
i know, i know
David de Gea’s Manchester United future was thrown into doubt on Thursday night as his agent failed to rule out a move to Real Madrid in the summer.
Considering some of the players we do sign under Lambert are players we often know little about, it does seem strange not to have other options considering the scouting that must go on to find Benteke, Gill, Sylla etc.
It's like Hoolihan again, don't get the player you want and give up. I know it's not that simplistic but it's a bit disheartening.
I too would like to say that I haven't ruled out a move to Real Madrid.QuoteDavid de Gea’s Manchester United future was thrown into doubt on Thursday night as his agent failed to rule out a move to Real Madrid in the summer.
I too would like to say that I haven't ruled out a move to Real Madrid.QuoteDavid de Gea’s Manchester United future was thrown into doubt on Thursday night as his agent failed to rule out a move to Real Madrid in the summer.
These transfer windows are a complete bore under a disinterested owner and a dour Manager. What exactly does Lerner get out of owning Villa?
I too would like to say that I haven't ruled out a move to Real Madrid.I can imagine you at the Bernabeu ...........selling H&Vs.
These transfer windows are a complete bore under a disinterested owner and a dour Manager. What exactly does Lerner get out of owning Villa?
I think I prefer the slumber of this window compared to the frenzy under MON/AM/Houllier. People were pulling their hair out on a daily basis back then every time another club signed a player.
These transfer windows are a complete bore under a disinterested owner and a dour Manager. What exactly does Lerner get out of owning Villa?It's not compulsory to sign players in a TF.
We need more than we've done this window.
Amazed we didn't sign another winger or striker, even a good one on loan. There must be someone we can borrow from superrich club.
These transfer windows are a complete bore under a disinterested owner and a dour Manager. What exactly does Lerner get out of owning Villa?It's not compulsory to sign players in a TF.
I too would like to say that I haven't ruled out a move to Real Madrid.QuoteDavid de Gea’s Manchester United future was thrown into doubt on Thursday night as his agent failed to rule out a move to Real Madrid in the summer.
Afetr working for the Mirror years back it doesnt appear they have changed, theyre still utter c**ts.
Afetr working for the Mirror years back it doesnt appear they have changed, theyre still utter c**ts.
You weren't a proof reader I take it?
These transfer windows are a complete bore under a disinterested owner and a dour Manager. What exactly does Lerner get out of owning Villa?It's not compulsory to sign players in a TF.
No, but it's advisable when you've scored a record low goals and cannot create chances for toffee.
Amazed we didn't sign another winger or striker, even a good one on loan. There must be someone we can borrow from superrich club.
Even unused players at superrich clubs are on high wages, which Villa currently cannot/will not pay
They were just saying on Sky Soccer Saturday that Lennon would be a good signing for a few teams, and I agree on our behalf.
They were just saying on Sky Soccer Saturday that Lennon would be a good signing for a few teams, and I agree on our behalf.
Imagine.
They were just saying on Sky Soccer Saturday that Lennon would be a good signing for a few teams, and I agree on our behalf.
Imagine.
It'd be instant karma if we signed him and he scored on his debut.
They were just saying on Sky Soccer Saturday that Lennon would be a good signing for a few teams, and I agree on our behalf.
Imagine.
It'd be instant karma if we signed him and he scored on his debut.
Someone else will pinch him and you'll be a couple of jealous guys.
They were just saying on Sky Soccer Saturday that Lennon would be a good signing for a few teams, and I agree on our behalf.
Imagine.
It'd be instant karma if we signed him and he scored on his debut.
Someone else will pinch him and you'll be a couple of jealous guys.
Mind you, if he signs for the Albion, their fans will be giving peace a chance.
I see the Mirror are determined to get rid of Delph for us. Surely there cant be any truth in the story that PL has panicked and is now prepared to let him go for £4m rather than nothing. A) Why would he sell for a measly price when we need himm more than the cash B) Why on Earth would the club shoot themselves in the foot and set a minimum of £4m? Afetr working for the Mirror years back it doesnt appear they have changed, theyre still utter c**ts.
They were just saying on Sky Soccer Saturday that Lennon would be a good signing for a few teams, and I agree on our behalf.
I see the Mirror are determined to get rid of Delph for us. Surely there cant be any truth in the story that PL has panicked and is now prepared to let him go for £4m rather than nothing. A) Why would he sell for a measly price when we need himm more than the cash B) Why on Earth would the club shoot themselves in the foot and set a minimum of £4m? Afetr working for the Mirror years back it doesnt appear they have changed, theyre still utter c**ts.
£4m would be a good deal now rather than going for nowt in 5 months time. He isnt that good anyway
They were just saying on Sky Soccer Saturday that Lennon would be a good signing for a few teams, and I agree on our behalf.
George McCartney is a free agent at the moment. They might link up well.
We need some Scandinavian experience in midfield, why not get Bakke?
what? Back in the USSR?We need some Scandinavian experience in midfield, why not get Bakke?
Hearing he's nailed on for Spartak Moscow though..
*rounds goalkeeper, squares ball*
We need some Scandinavian experience in midfield, why not get Bakke?
Hearing he's nailed on for Spartak Moscow though..
*rounds goalkeeper, squares ball*
Everton may be interested in n'zogbia according to news now. (Please please please)
Harder worker than N'Zogbia.Everton may be interested in n'zogbia according to news now. (Please please please)
That's James Brown.
Everton may be interested in n'zogbia according to news now. (Please please please)
Everton may be interested in n'zogbia according to news now. (Please please please)
Please please please (Let me get what I want)
Spend it on a pay-off for Lambert - it'll feel like a new striker.
Herd off to Wigan on loanBloody hell, I need to pay more attention. I thought he'd left the club some time ago.
I wonder how many big (or Panic) signing we will see over next week in premier league. I hope we will add a striker but I don't know who we can buy for 3 millions lol.
I wonder how many big (or Panic) signing we will see over next week in premier league. I hope we will add a striker but I don't know who we can buy for 3 millions lol.
I'm not sure we need a striker really. A couple more players with Gil's ability in the final third would make a big difference. I know he's not exactly endeared himself to Villa fans since his departure, but I would love to see Ashley Young back.
I wonder how many big (or Panic) signing we will see over next week in premier league. I hope we will add a striker but I don't know who we can buy for 3 millions lol.A striker is a no, we have potentially one of the best in Europe for me....it's the supply line to him we need.
Everton may be interested in n'zogbia according to news now. (Please please please)And Spurs or Manure in Vlaar would be great news.
That bloke pulling the strings in midfield for Boro looked tidy yesterday...was it Tomlin.
I also like the look of their manager, Aitor KarankaThat bloke pulling the strings in midfield for Boro looked tidy yesterday...was it Tomlin.
Yeah, he does look good. The goal that he neatly scored would have been a worldie! I also like the look of both Vossen and Bamford upfront.
I also like the look of their manager, Aitor KarankaThat bloke pulling the strings in midfield for Boro looked tidy yesterday...was it Tomlin.
Yeah, he does look good. The goal that he neatly scored would have been a worldie! I also like the look of both Vossen and Bamford upfront.
Derby, Boro and MK Dons all have a really good, up and coming midfielder. Likely to cost a buyer a fair packet, but well worth the money.
Derby, Boro and MK Dons all have a really good, up and coming midfielder. Likely to cost a buyer a fair packet, but well worth the money.
Tomlin would bring Order to the Villa midfield
Tomlin would bring Order to the Villa midfield
I was thinking of a way to try and get that pun in to this thread, well done!
Hands offI also like the look of their manager, Aitor KarankaThat bloke pulling the strings in midfield for Boro looked tidy yesterday...was it Tomlin.
Yeah, he does look good. The goal that he neatly scored would have been a worldie! I also like the look of both Vossen and Bamford upfront.
Well he is an absolute dreamboat.
Vossen took some time to settle but looks a decent footballer. He was the target of the scouting mission that ended with Benteke wasn't he?
Derby, Boro and MK Dons all have a really good, up and coming midfielder. Likely to cost a buyer a fair packet, but well worth the money.
The N'Zogbia to Everton rumour seems to be gathering pace on Twitter. Martinez had him at Wigan, when he produced his best football, so maybe he thinks he can get the best out of him again? Even if we didn't get much in the way of a transfer fee for him I reckon he must be on over £40k a week, so would certainly free-up some wages.
I think this would be a good move for everyone, except Everton.
No, we couldn't possibly afford to lose Cleverley and N'Zogbia to Everton, they're our best players.The above is for the benefit of Martinez if he's reading this forum
I can actually see us letting him go for free, in order to get him off the wage-bill. It's probably the only way that Everton would take him too. We can add him to the list of massively depreciated assets in recent history!
I can actually see us letting him go for free, in order to get him off the wage-bill. It's probably the only way that Everton would take him too. We can add him to the list of massively depreciated assets in recent history!
That's the last thing I would do personally. We should at least get some of our money back, we paid enough for him.
I can actually see us letting him go for free, in order to get him off the wage-bill. It's probably the only way that Everton would take him too. We can add him to the list of massively depreciated assets in recent history!
That's the last thing I would do personally. We should at least get some of our money back, we paid enough for him.
I agree, that would be the best outcome, but can you actually see anyone paying money for him and matching the salary he's currently on? At the moment he's nothing but a drain on resources and a waste of a space in the 25-man squad.
I can actually see us letting him go for free, in order to get him off the wage-bill. It's probably the only way that Everton would take him too. We can add him to the list of massively depreciated assets in recent history!
That's the last thing I would do personally. We should at least get some of our money back, we paid enough for him.
I agree, that would be the best outcome, but can you actually see anyone paying money for him and matching the salary he's currently on? At the moment he's nothing but a drain on resources and a waste of a space in the 25-man squad.
I think some team would, yes. I don't think something like £3m would be unreasonable and yes, he might have to take a pay cut. If Man City can try and get a fee for a player they've hardly used, then I'm sure we can with N'Zogbia.
I can actually see us letting him go for free, in order to get him off the wage-bill. It's probably the only way that Everton would take him too. We can add him to the list of massively depreciated assets in recent history!
That's the last thing I would do personally. We should at least get some of our money back, we paid enough for him.
I agree, that would be the best outcome, but can you actually see anyone paying money for him and matching the salary he's currently on? At the moment he's nothing but a drain on resources and a waste of a space in the 25-man squad.
I think some team would, yes. I don't think something like £3m would be unreasonable and yes, he might have to take a pay cut. If Man City can try and get a fee for a player they've hardly used, then I'm sure we can with N'Zogbia.
But in much the same way we're seemingly refusing to pay £3million for Sinclair, I honestly can't think of one team who would give us anywhere near £3m for N'Zogbia. And I include QPR in that.
Wilson looks the sort worth taking a punt on when leaving Coventry and loaning to a championship side if only to make money!
I was excited when Charles signed, barring a few free kicks he has just been awful. Always looks like he starts running a half a step too late, constantly dribbles directly in to defenders and has no motivation to defend. If we have the opportunity to move him it has to be done, he will do nothing but stunt the growth of Grealish and limit Gil.
I was excited when Charles signed, barring a few free kicks he has just been awful. Always looks like he starts running a half a step too late, constantly dribbles directly in to defenders and has no motivation to defend. If we have the opportunity to move him it has to be done, he will do nothing but stunt the growth of Grealish and limit Gil.
is he into selling cigarettes on the side, then?
We need a Number 10 and a Number 6, or maybe 10 Number 6s.Don't be menthol, mate.
Keep N'Zog, you say? No tar.Pack it in, I like him
We need a Number 10 and a Number 6, or maybe 10 Number 6s.Don't be menthol, mate.
At what point do Fox and Randy look at our side and see the patern of Vlaar, Okore, Sanchez, Gil, Benteke etc and think you know what, it might be a decent idea to give Lambert 15 million to get 3 players in that category to really improve the trimmings of the side. Because he can very clearly spot and sign a much better class of player that most in that range.
What has Nzogbia tweeted and then deleted?
What has Nzogbia tweeted and then deleted?
that he couldnt wait to wear the new blue shirt, and have a new start
Who the fuck would bother to photoshop a tweet from him?? Very worrying people out there.
looks like we should have scott sinclair by the weekend
Sinclair deal on apparently. CNZ may be off. Everton on loan. LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
I'm sure there'll be no shortage of volunteers to offer to drive him to Merseyside, but i'll believe it when I see him in a blue shirt.I agree. I also doubt the Everton link. Fingers crossed though.
Just wondered whether anyone on here would have liked to have seen us take a punt on McManaman from Wigan at the price the bitters have paid for him, always though of him being a skilful player but not a great end product
Sinclair in and N'Zogbia out is a big win win. Next is Cleverley going to Real madrid in the summer.
Sinclair in and N'Zogbia out is a big win win. Next is Cleverley going to Real madrid in the summer.
Charlie out..yes
Sinclair in, judging by his success at The Hawthorns....absolutely no!
Why can't we just go and get Damarai Gray!!?? He's only down the fucking road!!And it would be worth it just to piss the noses off! :D
Why can't we just go and get Damarai Gray!!?? He's only down the fucking road!!
Sinclair is young enough to be a top player again. If we can make it work for us then I would like him to come. Watching his highlights he is incredibly right footed.
The Scott Sinclair that went on loan to Albion last season - no thanks. The Scott Sinclair that played for Swansea and did enough for Man City to sign him - yes please.
Demba Ba linked now.
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Please don't!
It is. Apparently he's out of favour there!
In other news, The Mirror and The Star (I know, I know) are linking us with Demba Ba.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/hull-aston-villa-line-up-5060532
Other clubs will flock to sign him!Demba Ba linked now.
You will feel sheepish if we dont get him!
It is. Apparently he's out of favour there!
In other news, The Mirror and The Star (I know, I know) are linking us with Demba Ba.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/hull-aston-villa-line-up-5060532
It is. Apparently he's out of favour there!
In other news, The Mirror and The Star (I know, I know) are linking us with Demba Ba.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/hull-aston-villa-line-up-5060532
Made me raise an eyebrow but thinking it over a little more the move would take some focus off of Benteke having another striker at least SEMI-capable of scoring. It's not like teams have to game plan around Gabby and Andi, at least Ba would demand a little attention from opposing defenders.
However NOT FOR 13 F IN MILLION Euros.
However NOT FOR 13 F IN MILLION Euros.Is that the rumored amount?
However NOT FOR 13 F IN MILLION Euros.Is that the rumored amount?
It's supplying the forwards with service that's the problem.
Demba Ba is a much better player than he ever gets credit for, always scores goals and always creates problems. I would love him and Benteke up front with Sinclair and Gil supplying them, but there is more chance of us signing me than spending 8 million on Demba Ba.
Has Bale joined us yet?
Apparently we've taken this guy on trial...
http://www.ligue1.com/joueur/nkololo-jordan
Apparently we've taken this guy on trial...
http://www.ligue1.com/joueur/nkololo-jordan
51 games, 2 goals. Have we found the French Heskey?
Demba Ba is a much better player than he ever gets credit for, always scores goals and always creates problems. I would love him and Benteke up front with Sinclair and Gil supplying them, but there is more chance of us signing me than spending 8 million on Demba Ba.
We'd also need to buy one, maybe two, very good defensive midfielders to accommodate all those players too.
However NOT FOR 13 F IN MILLION Euros.Is that the rumored amount?
Yes, acording to some dude on twitter who said the Beşiktaş vice-chairman turned it down
Apparently we've taken this guy on trial...
http://www.ligue1.com/joueur/nkololo-jordan
51 games, 2 goals. Have we found the French Heskey?
Apparently we've taken this guy on trial...
http://www.ligue1.com/joueur/nkololo-jordan
51 games, 2 goals. Have we found the French Heskey?
We never replaced Bowery.
Apparently we've taken this guy on trial...
http://www.ligue1.com/joueur/nkololo-jordan
51 games, 2 goals. Have we found the French Heskey?
Damn I'm excited about this one
Plays for Clermont Foot , does the name Yacouba Sylla ring a bell ?!..........Godzvilla!Apparently we've taken this guy on trial...
http://www.ligue1.com/joueur/nkololo-jordan
51 games, 2 goals. Have we found the French Heskey?
Damn I'm excited about this one
It says on that site "1 goal / 446 mins"
Isn't that about the same rate at which we (as in the entire team) score goals these days?
having had a bit of a browse on Man City/West Brom message boards I really hope we avoid Sinclair.I'm sure the same was said about a certain Mr Paul McGrath many years ago. At least give him a chance to turn his career around, should he sign for us.
Looks to have everything in his baggage that we've been struggling to get rid of.
having had a bit of a browse on Man City/West Brom message boards I really hope we avoid Sinclair.I'm sure the same was said about a certain Mr Paul McGrath many years ago. At least give him a chance to turn his career around, should he sign for us.
Looks to have everything in his baggage that we've been struggling to get rid of.
having had a bit of a browse on Man City/West Brom message boards I really hope we avoid Sinclair.I'm sure the same was said about a certain Mr Paul McGrath many years ago. At least give him a chance to turn his career around, should he sign for us.
Looks to have everything in his baggage that we've been struggling to get rid of.
I agree with you Manlandro
I can't say I'm overly happy with the deal but maybe he's realised this is his last chance and he's finally grown up.
If it's a loan, will he be arsed? It's hardly the 'new start' for him is it. I hate these neither here nor there transfers (loans) and would have preferred him on a permanent 2.5 year deal. I just hope it means we're keeping the money for someone else.
If it's a loan, will he be arsed? It's hardly the 'new start' for him is it. I hate these neither here nor there transfers (loans) and would have preferred him on a permanent 2.5 year deal. I just hope it means we're keeping the money for someone else.
We have the option to sign him for £2 million at the end of the season, so makes perfect sense to me.
Ba?
I can't say I'm overly happy with the deal but maybe he's realised this is his last chance and he's finally grown up.
If its a loan what harm can it do?
The Brum Mail is now linking us with Bakary Sako at Wolves, who I've often thought looked too good for them. Apparently Pulis ants him too, but Wolves would up the asking price for them. He's out of contract in the summer so would possibly be available for around £2m.
The Brum Mail is now linking us with Bakary Sako at Wolves, who I've often thought looked too good for them. Apparently Pulis ants him too, but Wolves would up the asking price for them. He's out of contract in the summer so would possibly be available for around £2m.
Sako is hopeless
Dele Alli anyone?
Villa bid for Dele Alli? (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/aston-villa/11377801/Aston-Villa-make-late-move-to-hijack-Newcastle-bid-for-MK-Dons-midfielder-Dele-Alli.html)
Dele Alli anyone?
Villa bid for Dele Alli? (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/aston-villa/11377801/Aston-Villa-make-late-move-to-hijack-Newcastle-bid-for-MK-Dons-midfielder-Dele-Alli.html)
Buying him and then loaning back may help if Newcastle want him straight away. And as mentioned, send someone on loan to them as well to sweeten the deal.
Buying him and then loaning back may help if Newcastle want him straight away. And as mentioned, send someone on loan to them as well to sweeten the deal.
It appears they need a left sided defender, at least until the end of the season. Where's Enda Stevens/Joe Bennett when you need them?
Typical fan irrationality coming up, i'd never really heard of him a couple of hours ago, now i'm going to be pissed if we don't sign him.
Typical fan irrationality coming up, i'd never really heard of him a couple of hours ago, now i'm going to be pissed if we don't sign him.
when Newcastle get him I will be the first to say FAULKNER/FOX/RANDY/LAMBERT/THE GENERAL OUT and comment on "how low we have sunk".
My mate's an MK Don's fan and thinks he's great.
Jesus, based on those clips, I'd buy him and put him in our team, not MK Dons'.
i know i know, youtube clips etc etc
Jesus, based on those clips, I'd buy him and put him in our team, not MK Dons'.
i know i know, youtube clips etc etc
Have seen him play for MK Dons a few times and has always looked class at that level for a player of his age (he was excellent against Man Utd earlier in the season). He has played For England at every age level and has a decent goal scoring record for a midfielder (almost 1 in 3). He reminds me a lot of Fabian Delph when I've seen him play.
Alli looks a hell of a good player. Interesting that we have offered 2 now with the rest in the summer. I wonder if that is a bit like when we bought Davies helping some tax purpose for MK Dons. Probably go to Newscastle, but their fans are giving it some on twitter about Villa. So bitter that lot.
Alternatively the money paid for him and the money he was on made the decision easier to stick with him, and made him less attractive to any potential buyers had we wanted to cut our losses.
Why don't we buy him and loan him to Newcastle . Everyone's a winner .I wouldn't give Bombay duck to Newcastle never mind Deli Alli!
Just watched Dele Alli's showreel. 1. He seems to know the offside rule which is better than many players. 2. He can pick a forward run so he will be wasted under Lambert unless something changes. 3. Most importantly, Sondico make kits?! I've only ever seen keepers gloves and shinpads. Well I never.
The Sinclair deal has been officialised by the club, season long loan
The Sinclair deal has been officialised by the club, season long loan
Word in Nottingham is that Forest have their eye on Grealish, want him on loan. They reckon he may be surplus to requirements now we have Sinclair.
Word in Nottingham is that Forest have their eye on Grealish, want him on loan. They reckon he may be surplus to requirements now we have Sinclair.They are hunting in a jungle too far.
I saw that and nearly chocked earlier. 75k!!! For what?
The Daily Mail (I know) reckon Fletcher will get £ 75,000-a-week at West Ham. Crazy, if true...Well they're getting a sparkly new ground for free so they can be a bit adventurous with wages .
Aston Villa are apparently looking into signing Mariano Izco from Chievo before the January transfer window closes.
The 31-year-old Argentine has made 11 Serie A appearances for the Flying Donkeys this season, scoring on just one occasion.
According to TuttoMercatoWeb, Villa are hoping to complete the signing on deadline day as they are keen to reinforce their midfield.
Izco spent the majority of his career at Sicilian side Catania, joining the Elefanti in 2006 but moved to the Stadio Bentegodi during the summer.
The Daily Mail (I know) reckon Fletcher will get £ 75,000-a-week at West Ham. Crazy, if true...Well they're getting a sparkly new ground for free so they can be a bit adventurous with wages .
No. She's leaving them.The Daily Mail (I know) reckon Fletcher will get £ 75,000-a-week at West Ham. Crazy, if true...Well they're getting a sparkly new ground for free so they can be a bit adventurous with wages .
Are they leaving the bowelyn?
No. She's leaving them.The Daily Mail (I know) reckon Fletcher will get £ 75,000-a-week at West Ham. Crazy, if true...Well they're getting a sparkly new ground for free so they can be a bit adventurous with wages .
Are they leaving the bowelyn?
Twats.
Don't blame her.
Totally lost it!No. She's leaving them.The Daily Mail (I know) reckon Fletcher will get £ 75,000-a-week at West Ham. Crazy, if true...Well they're getting a sparkly new ground for free so they can be a bit adventurous with wages .
Are they leaving the bowelyn?
Twats.
Don't blame her.
She must be off her head.
Aston Villa Eye Last Minute Chievo BidQuoteAston Villa are apparently looking into signing Mariano Izco from Chievo before the January transfer window closes.
The 31-year-old Argentine has made 11 Serie A appearances for the Flying Donkeys this season, scoring on just one occasion.
According to TuttoMercatoWeb, Villa are hoping to complete the signing on deadline day as they are keen to reinforce their midfield.
Izco spent the majority of his career at Sicilian side Catania, joining the Elefanti in 2006 but moved to the Stadio Bentegodi during the summer.
Never heard of him, why swap one set of donkeys for another?
#getsitinbeforesomeonemoremiserablegetsitin
May be you are a bit constipated!I saw that and nearly chocked earlier. 75k!!! For what?
I'm trying to get a 'shit or get off the pot' joke in here somewhere but it isn't working.
The Daily Mail (I know) reckon Fletcher will get £ 75,000-a-week at West Ham. Crazy, if true...Well they're getting a sparkly new ground for free so they can be a bit adventurous with wages .
Are they leaving the bowelyn?
It's be nice if Lerner supplied the funds for a decent striker instead of us scratching around looking for another loan deal. You'd pick up a decent striker for around £5m in Europe, and Christ how we need one! I didn't realise we could be 4th from bottom after today's games are over. That's too close for comfort.
£5m wouldn't even get you Bosko back in 2001. Gonna be some doing to get a decent striker for that much.
£5m wouldn't even get you Bosko back in 2001. Gonna be some doing to get a decent striker for that much.
£5m wouldn't even get you Bosko back in 2001. Gonna be some doing to get a decent striker for that much.
You know I'd think we'd get a better player for £5m than you would if you were scratching around the loan market which we sadly find ourselves in.
Demba Ba please.
£5m wouldn't even get you Bosko back in 2001. Gonna be some doing to get a decent striker for that much.
You know I'd think we'd get a better player for £5m than you would if you were scratching around the loan market which we sadly find ourselves in.
Like who for £5m? Look at what Leicester just spent on Kramaric, a player a lot of us had probably never heard of.
Demba Ba please.
Apparently he'd cost around £8m or £9m. What a lift he'd give us if he came in, but Lerner won't pay that sort of money anymore not even if it helped fire us up the table to where a club like Villa should be.
£5m wouldn't even get you Bosko back in 2001. Gonna be some doing to get a decent striker for that much.
You know I'd think we'd get a better player for £5m than you would if you were scratching around the loan market which we sadly find ourselves in.
Like who for £5m? Look at what Leicester just spent on Kramaric, a player a lot of us had probably never heard of.
£5m wouldn't even get you Bosko back in 2001. Gonna be some doing to get a decent striker for that much.
You know I'd think we'd get a better player for £5m than you would if you were scratching around the loan market which we sadly find ourselves in.
Like who for £5m? Look at what Leicester just spent on Kramaric, a player a lot of us had probably never heard of.
I've absolutely no idea. I'm not a club scout and I'm not gonna come up with names.
£5m wouldn't even get you Bosko back in 2001. Gonna be some doing to get a decent striker for that much.
You know I'd think we'd get a better player for £5m than you would if you were scratching around the loan market which we sadly find ourselves in.
Like who for £5m? Look at what Leicester just spent on Kramaric, a player a lot of us had probably never heard of.
I've absolutely no idea. I'm not a club scout and I'm not gonna come up with names.
Why not? It's a forum, that's the whole point of them.
£5m wouldn't even get you Bosko back in 2001. Gonna be some doing to get a decent striker for that much.
You know I'd think we'd get a better player for £5m than you would if you were scratching around the loan market which we sadly find ourselves in.
Like who for £5m? Look at what Leicester just spent on Kramaric, a player a lot of us had probably never heard of.
I've absolutely no idea. I'm not a club scout and I'm not gonna come up with names.
Why not? It's a forum, that's the whole point of them.
Ahh the old football messageboard cliche that if you don't come up with names your opinion is invalid. Haven't heard that one for a while.
£5m wouldn't even get you Bosko back in 2001. Gonna be some doing to get a decent striker for that much.
You know I'd think we'd get a better player for £5m than you would if you were scratching around the loan market which we sadly find ourselves in.
Like who for £5m? Look at what Leicester just spent on Kramaric, a player a lot of us had probably never heard of.
I've absolutely no idea. I'm not a club scout and I'm not gonna come up with names.
Why not? It's a forum, that's the whole point of them.
Ahh the old football messageboard cliche that if you don't come up with names your opinion is invalid. Haven't heard that one for a while.
Who said your opinion was invalid?
For £5m you're going to be buying a pretty much unknown, or risky signing striker. It's the hardest position to fill, especially for that kind of money.
£5m wouldn't even get you Bosko back in 2001. Gonna be some doing to get a decent striker for that much.
You know I'd think we'd get a better player for £5m than you would if you were scratching around the loan market which we sadly find ourselves in.
Like who for £5m? Look at what Leicester just spent on Kramaric, a player a lot of us had probably never heard of.
I've absolutely no idea. I'm not a club scout and I'm not gonna come up with names.
Why not? It's a forum, that's the whole point of them.
Ahh the old football messageboard cliche that if you don't come up with names your opinion is invalid. Haven't heard that one for a while.
Who said your opinion was invalid?
But I already told you, I don't know of names. What I do know though is that you get what you pay for in life. I've said that many many times. The bargain basement shit is what has got us into this mess in the first place. We need to spend money, not scraping the bottom of the barrel with loans.
But I already told you, I don't know of names. What I do know though is that you get what you pay for in life. I've said that many many times. The bargain basement shit is what has got us into this mess in the first place. We need to spend money, not scraping the bottom of the barrel with loans.
£5m wouldn't even get you Bosko back in 2001. Gonna be some doing to get a decent striker for that much.
You know I'd think we'd get a better player for £5m than you would if you were scratching around the loan market which we sadly find ourselves in.
Like who for £5m? Look at what Leicester just spent on Kramaric, a player a lot of us had probably never heard of.
I've absolutely no idea. I'm not a club scout and I'm not gonna come up with names.
What I do know though is that you get what you pay for in life. Scratch around the bargain basement and you'll end up with a team at the wrong end of the table, which is where we find ourselves.
But I already told you, I don't know of names. What I do know though is that you get what you pay for in life. I've said that many many times. The bargain basement shit is what has got us into this mess in the first place. We need to spend money, not scraping the bottom of the barrel with loans.
These days £5m for a striker is bargain basement though i'd have thought? I'd love another striker coming in but it will take some doing to find a decent one for that money is the point i'm trying to make.
£5m wouldn't even get you Bosko back in 2001. Gonna be some doing to get a decent striker for that much.
You know I'd think we'd get a better player for £5m than you would if you were scratching around the loan market which we sadly find ourselves in.
Like who for £5m? Look at what Leicester just spent on Kramaric, a player a lot of us had probably never heard of.
I've absolutely no idea. I'm not a club scout and I'm not gonna come up with names.
What I do know though is that you get what you pay for in life. Scratch around the bargain basement and you'll end up with a team at the wrong end of the table, which is where we find ourselves.
You said you could pick up a decent striker for £5 million in Europe but can't name one. Obviously that doesn't make you wrong but as others have pointed out you can spend twice that and still come a cropper. Baring in mind a player coming to us from Europe will not just have to adjust to the PL but also a lack of chances. Although hopefully Gil and Sinclair would change that.
But I already told you, I don't know of names. What I do know though is that you get what you pay for in life. I've said that many many times. The bargain basement shit is what has got us into this mess in the first place. We need to spend money, not scraping the bottom of the barrel with loans.
These days £5m for a striker is bargain basement though i'd have thought? I'd love another striker coming in but it will take some doing to find a decent one for that money is the point i'm trying to make.
I'd love us to spend £8m or so on Ba but Lerner just ain't gonna part with that kind of cash anymore.
I know it's early days but Gil looks decent and we spent a few million on him. What I'm saying is that you can pick up a good player for 5 or so million so by not give it a go?
But I already told you, I don't know of names. What I do know though is that you get what you pay for in life. I've said that many many times. The bargain basement shit is what has got us into this mess in the first place. We need to spend money, not scraping the bottom of the barrel with loans.
These days £5m for a striker is bargain basement though i'd have thought? I'd love another striker coming in but it will take some doing to find a decent one for that money is the point i'm trying to make.
I'd love us to spend £8m or so on Ba but Lerner just ain't gonna part with that kind of cash anymore.
I know it's early days but Gil looks decent and we spent a few million on him. What I'm saying is that you can pick up a good player for 5 or so million so by not give it a go?
We have.
I think it's well documented that our difficulties lie mainly in producing opportunities for the strikers. Having said that, replacing Gabby and Weimann should be looked at in the not too distant future.
But I already told you, I don't know of names. What I do know though is that you get what you pay for in life. I've said that many many times. The bargain basement shit is what has got us into this mess in the first place. We need to spend money, not scraping the bottom of the barrel with loans.
These days £5m for a striker is bargain basement though i'd have thought? I'd love another striker coming in but it will take some doing to find a decent one for that money is the point i'm trying to make.
I'd love us to spend £8m or so on Ba but Lerner just ain't gonna part with that kind of cash anymore.
I know it's early days but Gil looks decent and we spent a few million on him. What I'm saying is that you can pick up a good player for 5 or so million so by not give it a go?
We have.
It isn't enough.
Enough for what? Champions' League: no. Staying up: probably. We're not Aston Villa 1982 anymore, sadly.
But I already told you, I don't know of names. What I do know though is that you get what you pay for in life. I've said that many many times. The bargain basement shit is what has got us into this mess in the first place. We need to spend money, not scraping the bottom of the barrel with loans.
These days £5m for a striker is bargain basement though i'd have thought? I'd love another striker coming in but it will take some doing to find a decent one for that money is the point i'm trying to make.
I'd love us to spend £8m or so on Ba but Lerner just ain't gonna part with that kind of cash anymore.
I know it's early days but Gil looks decent and we spent a few million on him. What I'm saying is that you can pick up a good player for 5 or so million so by not give it a go?
We have.
It isn't enough.
Well we haven't got the money to do it more than we'd like unfortunately, so it's something you're just going to have to get used to.
But I already told you, I don't know of names. What I do know though is that you get what you pay for in life. I've said that many many times. The bargain basement shit is what has got us into this mess in the first place. We need to spend money, not scraping the bottom of the barrel with loans.
These days £5m for a striker is bargain basement though i'd have thought? I'd love another striker coming in but it will take some doing to find a decent one for that money is the point i'm trying to make.
I'd love us to spend £8m or so on Ba but Lerner just ain't gonna part with that kind of cash anymore.
I know it's early days but Gil looks decent and we spent a few million on him. What I'm saying is that you can pick up a good player for 5 or so million so by not give it a go?
We have.
It isn't enough.
Well we haven't got the money to do it more than we'd like unfortunately, so it's something you're just going to have to get used to.
That's a very defeatist attitude. Randy's worked his magic on you that's for sure.
We still haven't named the mystery five million pound miracle man.
But I already told you, I don't know of names. What I do know though is that you get what you pay for in life. I've said that many many times. The bargain basement shit is what has got us into this mess in the first place. We need to spend money, not scraping the bottom of the barrel with loans.
These days £5m for a striker is bargain basement though i'd have thought? I'd love another striker coming in but it will take some doing to find a decent one for that money is the point i'm trying to make.
I'd love us to spend £8m or so on Ba but Lerner just ain't gonna part with that kind of cash anymore.
I know it's early days but Gil looks decent and we spent a few million on him. What I'm saying is that you can pick up a good player for 5 or so million so by not give it a go?
We have.
It isn't enough.
Well we haven't got the money to do it more than we'd like unfortunately, so it's something you're just going to have to get used to.
That's a very defeatist attitude. Randy's worked his magic on you that's for sure.
A realistic attitude, not a defeatist one.
We still haven't named the mystery five million pound miracle man.
As I've said before I'm not a Villa scout. It'd be nice to think we have one or two though!
But I already told you, I don't know of names. What I do know though is that you get what you pay for in life. I've said that many many times. The bargain basement shit is what has got us into this mess in the first place. We need to spend money, not scraping the bottom of the barrel with loans.
These days £5m for a striker is bargain basement though i'd have thought? I'd love another striker coming in but it will take some doing to find a decent one for that money is the point i'm trying to make.
I'd love us to spend £8m or so on Ba but Lerner just ain't gonna part with that kind of cash anymore.
I know it's early days but Gil looks decent and we spent a few million on him. What I'm saying is that you can pick up a good player for 5 or so million so by not give it a go?
We have.
It isn't enough.
Well we haven't got the money to do it more than we'd like unfortunately, so it's something you're just going to have to get used to.
That's a very defeatist attitude. Randy's worked his magic on you that's for sure.
A realistic attitude, not a defeatist one.
Since when were football fans pragmatic?
Jeez!
We still haven't named the mystery five million pound miracle man.
As I've said before I'm not a Villa scout. It'd be nice to think we have one or two though!
Well considering Gil, Okore, Sanchez and Kozak are among our last few foreign imports, it would suggest we do.
We still haven't named the mystery five million pound miracle man.
As I've said before I'm not a Villa scout. It'd be nice to think we have one or two though!
Well considering Gil, Okore, Sanchez and Kozak are among our last few foreign imports, it would suggest we do.
Well exactly! Perhaps they could come up with a decent striker for approx £5m?
Or shall we look to cheap loan market instead?
But I already told you, I don't know of names. What I do know though is that you get what you pay for in life. I've said that many many times. The bargain basement shit is what has got us into this mess in the first place. We need to spend money, not scraping the bottom of the barrel with loans.
These days £5m for a striker is bargain basement though i'd have thought? I'd love another striker coming in but it will take some doing to find a decent one for that money is the point i'm trying to make.
I'd love us to spend £8m or so on Ba but Lerner just ain't gonna part with that kind of cash anymore.
I know it's early days but Gil looks decent and we spent a few million on him. What I'm saying is that you can pick up a good player for 5 or so million so by not give it a go?
We have.
It isn't enough.
Well we haven't got the money to do it more than we'd like unfortunately, so it's something you're just going to have to get used to.
That's a very defeatist attitude. Randy's worked his magic on you that's for sure.
A realistic attitude, not a defeatist one.
Since when were football fans pragmatic?
Jeez!
You seem to have trouble with people not wanting to think that Lerner is a bad nasty man. Jeez.
We still haven't named the mystery five million pound miracle man.
As I've said before I'm not a Villa scout. It'd be nice to think we have one or two though!
Well considering Gil, Okore, Sanchez and Kozak are among our last few foreign imports, it would suggest we do.
Well exactly! Perhaps they could come up with a decent striker for approx £5m?
Or shall we look to cheap loan market instead?
Yeah, why not. We've saved a fortune on Cleverley not buying him.
But I already told you, I don't know of names. What I do know though is that you get what you pay for in life. I've said that many many times. The bargain basement shit is what has got us into this mess in the first place. We need to spend money, not scraping the bottom of the barrel with loans.
These days £5m for a striker is bargain basement though i'd have thought? I'd love another striker coming in but it will take some doing to find a decent one for that money is the point i'm trying to make.
I'd love us to spend £8m or so on Ba but Lerner just ain't gonna part with that kind of cash anymore.
I know it's early days but Gil looks decent and we spent a few million on him. What I'm saying is that you can pick up a good player for 5 or so million so by not give it a go?
We have.
It isn't enough.
Well we haven't got the money to do it more than we'd like unfortunately, so it's something you're just going to have to get used to.
That's a very defeatist attitude. Randy's worked his magic on you that's for sure.
A realistic attitude, not a defeatist one.
Since when were football fans pragmatic?
Jeez!
You seem to have trouble with people not wanting to think that Lerner is a bad nasty man. Jeez.
And you have a problem with people who criticise him. I'm sure he's absolutely delighted he has you to fight his corner while his penny pinching turns us into perennial relegation strugglers!
We still haven't named the mystery five million pound miracle man.
As I've said before I'm not a Villa scout. It'd be nice to think we have one or two though!
Well considering Gil, Okore, Sanchez and Kozak are among our last few foreign imports, it would suggest we do.
Well exactly! Perhaps they could come up with a decent striker for approx £5m?
Or shall we look to cheap loan market instead?
Yeah, why not. We've saved a fortune on Cleverley not buying him.
Saving money seems to be the only important thing at the Villa under Lerner.
Every time there's a quotathon a kitten dies :(
We still haven't named the mystery five million pound miracle man.
As I've said before I'm not a Villa scout. It'd be nice to think we have one or two though!
Well considering Gil, Okore, Sanchez and Kozak are among our last few foreign imports, it would suggest we do.
Well exactly! Perhaps they could come up with a decent striker for approx £5m?
Or shall we look to cheap loan market instead?
Yeah, why not. We've saved a fortune on Cleverley not buying him.
Saving money seems to be the only important thing at the Villa under Lerner.
Talking about saving money, you may need to invest in some 'L E R N E R' letters for your keyboard, they must be wearing out by now.
Every time there's a quotathon a kitten dies :(
Every time there's a quotathon a kitten dies :(
Good. I don't like cats. Vermin.
Every time there's a quotathon a kitten dies :(
Point taken. I'll leave him alone to look for our new £5m striker.
We still haven't named the mystery five million pound miracle man.
As I've said before I'm not a Villa scout. It'd be nice to think we have one or two though!
Well considering Gil, Okore, Sanchez and Kozak are among our last few foreign imports, it would suggest we do.
Every time there's a quotathon a kitten dies :(
Point taken. I'll leave him alone to look for our new £5m striker.
I'd have more chance searching for another loan deal.
Every time there's a quotathon a kitten dies :(
Point taken. I'll leave him alone to look for our new £5m striker.
I'd have more chance searching for another loan deal.
Do TBAR do loan deals and allow quotathons? ;)
Every time there's a quotathon a kitten dies :(
Good. I don't like cats. Vermin.
I used to play passes with the outside of my right foot. It wasn't to be flash, it was just because my left foot was barely good enough for standing on. I see the same thing with Premier League players - Merson was one. You would think a professional would be at least competent with their weaker foot.See ally cissoko who has no right foot
I'm not sure I could cope with a lazy bastard like Berbatov who occasionally does a pass with the outside of his foot to make everyone think he's brilliant. We might as well put a dummy up front.
I used to play passes with the outside of my right foot. It wasn't to be flash, it was just because my left foot was barely good enough for standing on. I see the same thing with Premier League players - Merson was one. You would think a professional would be at least competent with their weaker foot.See ally cissoko who has no right foot
ha, ha **clappy thing**I'm not sure I could cope with a lazy bastard like Berbatov who occasionally does a pass with the outside of his foot to make everyone think he's brilliant. We might as well put a dummy up front.
What sort of dummy? Lord Charles or Charles N'Zogbia?
I don't think we necessarily need to buy a striker to directly compete with Benteke. A Julian Joachim/Marlon Harewood/Giles De Bilde type addition to the squad would be acceptable at this stage, and should be available for £5m or less. For example, someone like Frazer Campbell would add something different to the squad and probably offer more goals than either Gabby or Weimann.
You mean, like Weimann? :-;
... we probably need the type of striker who is comfortable dropping a bit deeper at times (ie. Robbie Keane).
Aston Villa and West Brom target unsettled Tottenham midfielder Etienne Capoue
Aston Villa and West Brom are interested in signing Etienne Capoue
They are considering a potential loan deal for the midfielder
26-year-old Capoue arrived at Spurs in 2013 for a reported £9m
But he has struggled to nail down regular first-team football
Capoue was left out of Spurs' last match-day squad
By ROHAN BANERJEE
West Bromwich Albion and Aston Villa have made enquiries about signing Tottenham midfielder Etienne Capoue on loan.
The 26-year-old France international has also been the subject of interest from Sevilla and Real Sociedad this week and is thought to be considering his options in a quest to secure more regular first-team football.
Capoue's omission from Spurs' last match-day squad against West Brom at The Hawthorns on Saturday will have no doubt compounded the player's frustrations.
QuoteAston Villa and West Brom target unsettled Tottenham midfielder Etienne Capoue
Aston Villa and West Brom are interested in signing Etienne Capoue
They are considering a potential loan deal for the midfielder
26-year-old Capoue arrived at Spurs in 2013 for a reported £9m
But he has struggled to nail down regular first-team football
Capoue was left out of Spurs' last match-day squad
By ROHAN BANERJEE
West Bromwich Albion and Aston Villa have made enquiries about signing Tottenham midfielder Etienne Capoue on loan.
The 26-year-old France international has also been the subject of interest from Sevilla and Real Sociedad this week and is thought to be considering his options in a quest to secure more regular first-team football.
Capoue's omission from Spurs' last match-day squad against West Brom at The Hawthorns on Saturday will have no doubt compounded the player's frustrations.
*like*
You mean, like Weimann? :-;
... we probably need the type of striker who is comfortable dropping a bit deeper at times (ie. Robbie Keane).
QuoteAston Villa and West Brom target unsettled Tottenham midfielder Etienne Capoue
Aston Villa and West Brom are interested in signing Etienne Capoue
They are considering a potential loan deal for the midfielder
26-year-old Capoue arrived at Spurs in 2013 for a reported £9m
But he has struggled to nail down regular first-team football
Capoue was left out of Spurs' last match-day squad
By ROHAN BANERJEE
West Bromwich Albion and Aston Villa have made enquiries about signing Tottenham midfielder Etienne Capoue on loan.
The 26-year-old France international has also been the subject of interest from Sevilla and Real Sociedad this week and is thought to be considering his options in a quest to secure more regular first-team football.
Capoue's omission from Spurs' last match-day squad against West Brom at The Hawthorns on Saturday will have no doubt compounded the player's frustrations.
*like*
Dislike, we can't have another loan so it's clearly made up bullshit.
Can we send Cleverley back? I thought it was set i stone that he was here till the end of the season.
Can we send Cleverley back? I thought it was set i stone that he was here till the end of the season.
He's with us on loan until the end of the season unless we, or somebody else decides that he is worth spending money on before the end of Monday.
I don't mind keeping him till the end of the season, after all he's another body in not the biggest squad. I wouldn't spend a single penny on him though.*nods*
I don't mind keeping him till the end of the season, after all he's another body in not the biggest squad. I wouldn't spend a single penny on him though.
I don't mind keeping him till the end of the season, after all he's another body in not the biggest squad. I wouldn't spend a single penny on him though.
It's a good job we've only got him on loan then isn't it? Sorry I forgot, we shouldn't be scrapping around in the loan market.
I don't mind keeping him till the end of the season, after all he's another body in not the biggest squad. I wouldn't spend a single penny on him though.
It's a good job we've only got him on loan then isn't it? Sorry I forgot, we shouldn't be scrapping around in the loan market.
Oh put your dummy back in.
I was not as inspired as others by him against Bournmouth. He is a body, but would not be in our best 11 now surely?Nope.
The other is the concern that we'd spend 7m or so on making him permanent in the summer on the basis of some shonky "loan first, perm in the summer" agreement we made with them.We've made some horrendous financial decisions in the past, but I can't see even us spending £7m on a player who is out of contract and able to move where he wants to on a free transfer.
The other is the concern that we'd spend 7m or so on making him permanent in the summer on the basis of some shonky "loan first, perm in the summer" agreement we made with them.We've made some horrendous financial decisions in the past, but I can't see even us spending £7m on a player who is out of contract and able to move where he wants to on a free transfer.
What club would have paid £7m when, A) he isn't worth it, and, B) his contract is up at the end of the season?
Even if we had the cash to splash we wouldn't be that stupid.
One is that I wonder if there is some sort of "he must play" agreement, because for some reason Lambert seems to love him. The other is the concern that we'd spend 7m or so on making him permanent in the summer on the basis of some shonky "loan first, perm in the summer" agreement we made with them.
How would that be enforceable on their part?The other is the concern that we'd spend 7m or so on making him permanent in the summer on the basis of some shonky "loan first, perm in the summer" agreement we made with them.We've made some horrendous financial decisions in the past, but I can't see even us spending £7m on a player who is out of contract and able to move where he wants to on a free transfer.
I did say on the basis of an agreement made with United, though, when he came here.
What club would have paid £7m when, A) he isn't worth it, and, B) his contract is up at the end of the season?
Even if we had the cash to splash we wouldn't be that stupid.One is that I wonder if there is some sort of "he must play" agreement, because for some reason Lambert seems to love him. The other is the concern that we'd spend 7m or so on making him permanent in the summer on the basis of some shonky "loan first, perm in the summer" agreement we made with them.
How would that be enforceable on their part?The other is the concern that we'd spend 7m or so on making him permanent in the summer on the basis of some shonky "loan first, perm in the summer" agreement we made with them.We've made some horrendous financial decisions in the past, but I can't see even us spending £7m on a player who is out of contract and able to move where he wants to on a free transfer.
I did say on the basis of an agreement made with United, though, when he came here.
What if he doesn't want to sign for us? He has no contract with ManYoo after June and they have no control over what he does. Whether that is signing for us or somebody else.
If he does want to sign for us and we (for some reason) want to sign him, why wouldn't we just wait until July 1st when he has nothing to them with and pay him a quarter of what we would have paid to them last summer?
What club would have paid £7m when, A) he isn't worth it, and, B) his contract is up at the end of the season?
Even if we had the cash to splash we wouldn't be that stupid.One is that I wonder if there is some sort of "he must play" agreement, because for some reason Lambert seems to love him. The other is the concern that we'd spend 7m or so on making him permanent in the summer on the basis of some shonky "loan first, perm in the summer" agreement we made with them.
If so it must be some kind of "gentlemen's agreement" because I can't see it being legal.
Irrespective of that I'd send him packing at the end of the season, unless there's an amazing turnaround in form.
I'm sure I read somewhere that if we want to keep him we have to pay them.
When he came here in August, there was doubt over whether we'd complete the deal in time. I have no idea what agreement was made at the time, but maybe it was that they'd register it as a loan to start with with his registration switching to us at the end of the season, in order to get the deal over the line?It's not impossible, and I could certainly see us and them going for that - we were clearly willing to pay the money back in the summer.
I am not suggesting that is what happened, but there's no reason why it shouldn't have, if the player was in agreement with it too, of course (that goes without saying). It certainly isn't outside the realms of possibility
I was not as inspired as others by him against Bournmouth. He is a body, but would not be in our best 11 now surely?
When he came here in August, there was doubt over whether we'd complete the deal in time. I have no idea what agreement was made at the time, but maybe it was that they'd register it as a loan to start with with his registration switching to us at the end of the season, in order to get the deal over the line?It's not impossible, and I could certainly see us and them going for that - we were clearly willing to pay the money back in the summer.
I am not suggesting that is what happened, but there's no reason why it shouldn't have, if the player was in agreement with it too, of course (that goes without saying). It certainly isn't outside the realms of possibility
Why would Cleverley go for it though? We clearly weren't his first choice, why would he say anything other than "fine, let's stroll around Villa Park for nine months and then I can go wherever I want on a free transfer next summer".
It doesn't benefit him at all to commit to joining us permanently back in the summer when he can just keep his options open.
When he came here in August, there was doubt over whether we'd complete the deal in time. I have no idea what agreement was made at the time, but maybe it was that they'd register it as a loan to start with with his registration switching to us at the end of the season, in order to get the deal over the line?It's not impossible, and I could certainly see us and them going for that - we were clearly willing to pay the money back in the summer.
I am not suggesting that is what happened, but there's no reason why it shouldn't have, if the player was in agreement with it too, of course (that goes without saying). It certainly isn't outside the realms of possibility
Why would Cleverley go for it though? We clearly weren't his first choice, why would he say anything other than "fine, let's stroll around Villa Park for nine months and then I can go wherever I want on a free transfer next summer".
It doesn't benefit him at all to commit to joining us permanently back in the summer when he can just keep his options open.
I'm sure I read somewhere that if we want to keep him we have to pay them.
That's what I am getting at. There's no reason why the agreement shouldn't have been that it'd go through as a loan to start with, with a permanent deal to start on day x. Remember, this was a deal which there was much talk about not going through on time on deadline day.
I'm sure I read somewhere that if we want to keep him we have to pay them.So if we choose not to pay any money for him and he finds himself without a club or a contract in July - we are not allowed to sign him?
Maybe the deal with him was initially meant to be permanent, but with all the fucking about and toing and fro-ing, the only way they could do it in time was to structure it that way? It wouldn't be the first time a deal had happened like that.
I'm sure I read somewhere that if we want to keep him we have to pay them.So if we choose not to pay any money for him and he finds himself without a club or a contract in July - we are not allowed to sign him?
How would that work?
Paulie's scenario is plausible - but unlikely in my opinion, as it only works is there is the agreement of all three parties that it is definitely happening. And if that were the case, I don't see why it just wouldn't have become official on January 1st.
Maybe the deal with him was initially meant to be permanent, but with all the fucking about and toing and fro-ing, the only way they could do it in time was to structure it that way? It wouldn't be the first time a deal had happened like that.
It wouldn't, but as per my post above - those deals tend to be announced as permanent at the next available opportunity (I seem to remember Valencia moving to Wigan was like that).
If we've agreed to pay the fee but we just ran out of time in August and the player wants to join us on said three or four year deal, why is he still on loan and not permanently signed already?
I don't think Cleverly has been shit. Just "eh". I put him in a similar category to Westwood. Ok, and potentially can improve but not worth spending much money on.
I don't think Cleverly has been shit. Just "eh". I put him in a similar category to Westwood. Ok, and potentially can improve but not worth spending much money on.
Westwood, for all his faults, strikes me as a significantly better player than Cleverley.
I don't think Cleverly has been shit. Just "eh".
I don't think Cleverly has been shit. Just "eh".
Do you mean "meh" or "eh?"
Does the window close at midnight tonight and are sky doing their usual hyperbole show or as it's the sabbath will they give it a miss ?
Midnight Feb 1?Does the window close at midnight tonight and are sky doing their usual hyperbole show or as it's the sabbath will they give it a miss ?
Shuts tomorrow.
Does the window close at midnight tonight and are sky doing their usual hyperbole show or as it's the sabbath will they give it a miss ?
Shuts tomorrow.
Midnight Feb 1?Does the window close at midnight tonight and are sky doing their usual hyperbole show or as it's the sabbath will they give it a miss ?
Shuts tomorrow.
11pm Monday is when Jim White gets put back in his cupboard and the window shuts. Arsenal, of course, have the extra couple of days to sign their players!
Tom Cleverly?11pm Monday is when Jim White gets put back in his cupboard and the window shuts. Arsenal, of course, have the extra couple of days to sign their players!
I think the Arsenal rule applied to the Villa last time!
Looks like Aaron Lennon is going to Hull. He could have been a good signing, given time to get back to where he was a few years ago.
Looks like Aaron Lennon is going to Hull. He could have been a good signing, given time to get back to where he was a few years ago.
We are trying that trick with Scott Sinclair already. Sinclair has more ability and is younger.
Steve Bruce likes picking up Spurs rejects, next step Adebayor
MOTDLooks like Aaron Lennon is going to Hull. He could have been a good signing, given time to get back to where he was a few years ago.
We are trying that trick with Scott Sinclair already. Sinclair has more ability and is younger.
Steve Bruce likes picking up Spurs rejects, next step Adebayor
Not sure where I heard it, but Adebeyor might be off to QPR....
spuds in for the MK wonder kid apparently, bad move for him if true
Please let's not give him anymore money to waste. Spend any spare ££ on paying his contract off and giving him the heave ho.
'Promote' Lambert to Director of Football, in charge of recruitment and it's win-win. Lerner remains loyal to his buddy and we (hopefully) get a decent Head Coach.
'Promote' Lambert to Director of Football, in charge of recruitment and it's win-win. Lerner remains loyal to his buddy and we (hopefully) get a decent Head Coach.
That thought crossed my mind earlier. Didn't have the balls to post it though.
'Promote' Lambert to Director of Football, in charge of recruitment and it's win-win. Lerner remains loyal to his buddy and we (hopefully) get a decent Head Coach.
No. let him go to Albion. Wolves, Birmingham.
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I don't think that's a terrible idea, were it not for the fact that once he's gone, I want a fifty mile exclusion zone around Villa Park for Paul Lambert.
'Promote' Lambert to Director of Football, in charge of recruitment and it's win-win. Lerner remains loyal to his buddy and we (hopefully) get a decent Head Coach.
No. let him go to Albion. Wolves, Birmingham.
Please let's not give him anymore money to waste. Spend any spare ££ on paying his contract off and giving him the heave ho.
To be fair his transfer track record is probably the only thing he deserves anything approaching credit for.
Please let's not give him anymore money to waste. Spend any spare ££ on paying his contract off and giving him the heave ho.
To be fair his transfer track record is probably the only thing he deserves anything approaching credit for.
His transfer track record has been Ok. I don't want to see this clown bring in any more players full stop, I want to see him shown the door.
'Promote' Lambert to Director of Football, in charge of recruitment and it's win-win. Lerner remains loyal to his buddy and we (hopefully) get a decent Head Coach.
That thought crossed my mind earlier. Didn't have the balls to post it though.
I don't think that's a terrible idea, were it not for the fact that once he's gone, I want a fifty mile exclusion zone around Villa Park for Paul Lambert.
1st disappointment of the day....Alli is going to Spurs
From David Ornstein on BBC Sport;
No business for Villa
Posted at 08:47
"Aston Villa are not planning to do any more business before the transfer window closes at 11pm today.
"Villa lost 5-0 at Arsenal on Sunday to leave them three points above the relegation zone after eight league games without a win and more than 10 hours without league goal.
"But having recruited Carles Gill from Valencia for £3.2m and Scott Sinclair on loan from Manchester City, they are not expecting any further arrivals."
Isn't that a complete contradiction to what Lambert said yesterday??
To be fair the players aren't the issue.
Well if that's true it sums up how ridiculous our situation is. Our manager says he's looking to bring in one or two players and then a day later we're not looking to do any business.
Well if that's true it sums up how ridiculous our situation is. Our manager says he's looking to bring in one or two players and then a day later we're not looking to do any business.
He also said for weeks (well months) that he wasn't worried about our lack of goals and we'd soon start scoring, but then he totally contradicts himself by going out and signing two wingers.
So a club who scores just 11 league goals all season is scratching around the bargain basement looking for a loan or two.They'll need to be from outside the Premier League as well - as we've got our full quota of two with Sinclair and Cleverley.
Gregg Evans from the Mail reckons it'll be a quiet day decline day at the Villa and they're won't be any permanent signings.
So a club who scores just 11 league goals all season is scratching around the bargain basement looking for a loan or two. Thanks for that, Randy. You really have the club's best interests at heart.
Gregg Evans from the Mail reckons it'll be a quiet day decline day at the Villa and they're won't be any permanent signings.
So a club who scores just 11 league goals all season is scratching around the bargain basement looking for a loan or two. Thanks for that, Randy. You really have the club's best interests at heart.
Maybe it's something not to read too much into. Lambert said a couple of weeks ago that Gil would be our lot, but since then we've brought Sinclair in and he says he wants another striker. I'm not sure new signings would make much difference under Lambert anyway.
More important to sign Lambert's replacement ,tomorrow at the latest,it"s obvious he couldn't manage a fart and the players need some new help.
Lerner is still a disgrace for running our club into the ground though.
Gregg Evans from the Mail reckons it'll be a quiet day decline day at the Villa and there won't be any permanent signings.
So a club who scores just 11 league goals all season is scratching around the bargain basement looking for a loan or two. Thanks for that, Randy. You really have the club's best interests at heart.
We have a decent squad. Lambert out is the only action we need.
We have a decent squad. Lambert out is the only action we need.
The very last thing we need to worry about today is new players coming in.This. No point in getting players in when the clueless is still here.
Gregg Evans from the Mail reckons it'll be a quiet day decline day at the Villa and there won't be any permanent signings.
So a club who scores just 11 league goals all season is scratching around the bargain basement looking for a loan or two. Thanks for that, Randy. You really have the club's best interests at heart.
The very last thing we need to worry about today is new players coming in.This. No point in getting players in when the clueless is still here.
I've a feeling we'll be doing the usual SFA today.
I've a feeling we'll be doing the usual SFA today.
Yep.
I've a feeling we'll be doing the usual SFA today.
Yep.
Which makes Lambert's comments after the game about a couple in even more bizarre.
I've a feeling we'll be doing the usual SFA today.
Yep.
Which makes Lambert's comments after the game about a couple in even more bizarre.
I've a feeling we'll be doing the usual SFA today.
Yep.
Which makes Lambert's comments after the game about a couple in even more bizarre.
I have got to the point where I don't believe anything Lambert says. On pretty much any subject you care to suggest.
I've a feeling we'll be doing the usual SFA today.
Yep.
Which makes Lambert's comments after the game about a couple in even more bizarre.
I have got to the point where I don't believe anything Lambert says. On pretty much any subject you care to suggest.
He could be haggling for money with the chairman
I've a feeling we'll be doing the usual SFA today.
Yep.
Which makes Lambert's comments after the game about a couple in even more bizarre.
I have got to the point where I don't believe anything Lambert says. On pretty much any subject you care to suggest.
What I thought too.I've a feeling we'll be doing the usual SFA today.
Yep.
Which makes Lambert's comments after the game about a couple in even more bizarre.
I have got to the point where I don't believe anything Lambert says. On pretty much any subject you care to suggest.
I got the impression that he was maybe trying to distract a bit from the result when he said that.
I've a feeling we'll be doing the usual SFA today.
Yep.
Which makes Lambert's comments after the game about a couple in even more bizarre.
Lambert the man who claimed Randy came to games in disguise ..the one thing he has been good at is sprouting bullshit on a regular basis.Lambert also attends our game disguised as Manager and coach.
We have to make much better use of the existing bodies we have - the squad has been padded out with enough back up.
I've a feeling we'll be doing the usual SFA today.
Yep.
Which makes Lambert's comments after the game about a couple in even more bizarre.
I have got to the point where I don't believe anything Lambert says. On pretty much any subject you care to suggest.
He could be haggling for money with the chairman
Don't believe him.
Hopefully they won't let him sign anyone today because they're flicking the coin tomorrow.
To be fair the players aren't the issue.
Let's not excuse them entirely, they were a disgrace yesterday. Also that's not even the issue, it's the fact the manager says we're looking to bring a couple in on Sunday and then on Monday apparently we're not looking at anyone.
Aston Villa left back Antonio Luna joining Spezia on a half-season loan. Hellas Verona retain €1million option to buy in the summer. #AVFC
— Duncan Castles (@DuncanCastles) February 2, 2015
If true then our total outlay this window is £2.75m.
This is a general comment not only about our club but the whole farce that is the end of the transfer window. I don't really get the panic and excitement about deadline day deals. Why should all the dealing be left to the last minute? I know we are in the shit, but because we are not bringing anyone in today, it doesn't make our position worse surely? I was pleased with Gil and Sinclair and I'm sure things will improve with them in the squad but I don't understand the hype over today.
Sorry, I don't get it.
If true then our total outlay this window is £2.75m.
QuoteAston Villa left back Antonio Luna joining Spezia on a half-season loan. Hellas Verona retain €1million option to buy in the summer. #AVFC
— Duncan Castles (@DuncanCastles) February 2, 2015
Unless he is going to be sacked so what is the point of spending more money today.
Unless he is going to be sacked so what is the point of spending more money today.
There's more chance of me signing for Villa than there is of Lambert getting the sack.
Unless he is going to be sacked so what is the point of spending more money today.
There's more chance of me signing for Villa than there is of Lambert getting the sack.
Total outlay last summer plus this window is less than £9m.
I would assume, and it is a big assumption is because they are no longer saving Jack's £20k a week wages, hence no more room for signings.
You will soon be seen stretching the shirt at BH.Unless he is going to be sacked so what is the point of spending more money today.
There's more chance of me signing for Villa than there is of Lambert getting the sack.
Total outlay last summer plus this window is less than £9m.
If we were getting anything like the best out of what we have I wouldn't be too bothered about not signing anyone else as I think we have a reasonable squad.
As Lambert is obviously going nowhere i'd prefer us to sign some coaches who know what the feck they are doing.
If we were getting anything like the best out of what we have I wouldn't be too bothered about not signing anyone else as I think we have a reasonable squad.
As Lambert is obviously going nowhere i'd prefer us to sign some coaches who know what the feck they are doing.
This rumour about Utd threatening to recall Cleverley if we don't cough up £7m this window to make it perm....Tweeted by David Ornstein at the beebFrom Talksport , it seems the decision to keep the ,not so impressive , Cleverly ,may have to be taken sooner than we thought , possibly a blessing in disguise.......................Godzvilla!
This rumour about Utd threatening to recall Cleverley if we don't cough up £7m this window to make it perm....Tweeted by David Ornstein at the beeb
This rumour about Utd threatening to recall Cleverley if we don't cough up £7m this window to make it perm....Tweeted by David Ornstein at the beeb
This rumour about Utd threatening to recall Cleverley if we don't cough up £7m this window to make it perm....Tweeted by David Ornstein at the beeb
This rumour about Utd threatening to recall Cleverley if we don't cough up £7m this window to make it perm....Tweeted by David Ornstein at the beeb
This rumour about Utd threatening to recall Cleverley if we don't cough up £7m this window to make it perm....Tweeted by David Ornstein at the beeb
Could be a decent window after all then.
Cleverley being recalled would be the best news today after yesterday.
Cleverley being recalled would be the best news today after yesterday.
This. He's fucking hopeless.
Where are we for these deals? Yakubu signs for Reading.
Where are we for these deals? Yakubu signs for Reading.
Tom Cleverly has surpassed Stephen Ireland as the most despised villa player in my opinion . He's fucking useless and I want him gone .
Guy reporting from Man Ure training rouns says absolutely no pressure from Yanited to make the Cleverley deal permanent today and that he will be staying on loan at Villa til seasons end
Guy reporting for SSN from Man Ure training ground says absolutely no pressure from Yanited to make the Cleverley deal permanent today and that he will be staying on loan at Villa til seasons end
Cleverley will be one of those players you struggle to remember in a Missing Men line-up.
Guy reporting for SSN from Man Ure training ground says absolutely no pressure from Yanited to make the Cleverley deal permanent today and that he will be staying on loan at Villa til seasons end
That's a big statement. Steve Hodge?Perhaps a bit OTT , I still haven't calmed down from yesterday yet.
Guy reporting for SSN from Man Ure training ground says absolutely no pressure from Yanited to make the Cleverley deal permanent today and that he will be staying on loan at Villa til seasons end
Tom Cleverly has surpassed Stephen Ireland as the most despised villa player in my opinion . He's fucking useless and I want him gone .
I would be delighted not to sign anyone today in exchange for a Lambert sacking tomorrow.
Sorry if it's already been mentioned, but The Guardian have linked us to Lambert (R).
Maybe we'll end up with not one, not none, but two Lamberts.
Sorry if it's already been mentioned, but The Guardian have linked us to Lambert (R).
Maybe we'll end up with not one, not none, but two Lamberts.
Just seven years after I was hoping he move to Villa
He's not shit and he's not hopeless. That implies he has an impact, albeit a negative one. He doesn't. He just simply exists.
He doesn't tackle, he doesn't create, he doesn't take a man on, he doesn't shoot. He is just there, not doing anything beyond breathing.
Tom Cleverly has surpassed Stephen Ireland as the most despised villa player in my opinion . He's fucking useless and I want him gone .
Tom Cleverly has surpassed Stephen Ireland as the most despised villa player in my opinion . He's fucking useless and I want him gone .
You have to notice someone to despise them. In Big Brother terms he is less Nasty Nick and more the boring bloke who's name will mean nothing to you this time next year.
Tim Cahill?
Absolutely pathetic that we inquired to take Rickie Lambert on loan. Lambert has no rhyme or reason as to why he picks players. He can't use them properly anyway.
we have two domestic loans already. We're not allowed any more.Absolutely pathetic that we inquired to take Rickie Lambert on loan. Lambert has no rhyme or reason as to why he picks players. He can't use them properly anyway.
I would have been happy with Lambert short term, he's a goalscorer
Tim Cahill?
Word on the street* is he has left New York Lucozade and is coming back to the Premier League.
*SKY
we have two domestic loans already. We're not allowed any more.Absolutely pathetic that we inquired to take Rickie Lambert on loan. Lambert has no rhyme or reason as to why he picks players. He can't use them properly anyway.
I would have been happy with Lambert short term, he's a goalscorer
I just saw on the Guardian that Cahill's on a free and thought it'd be worth exploring. Our midfield is absolutely clueless, he'd surely improve it.
I just saw on the Guardian that Cahill's on a free and thought it'd be worth exploring. Our midfield is absolutely clueless, he'd surely improve it.
tell you what, Joe Cole trousered the easiest pension plan annuity of all time when Lambert rocked up.
Surely even we couldn't be sufficiently clueless to pay 5m for a 32 year old?We've done it for a 35 year old in the not too distant past.
Surely even we couldn't be sufficiently clueless to pay 5m for a 32 year old?We've done it for a 35 year old in the not too distant past.
It's true desperation, and £5m for a club which doesn't have much money otherwise (it would be over a third of our transfer outlay, including the summer) is a surprising amount to pay for a 32-year-old. However, just because it's desperate doesn't mean it can't work - which is a pretty desperate thing to say, I admit.
I think he is worth 4-5 million for 2 seasons actually. He is a much better player than he is given credit for, he is also not stupid enough to up sticks from his boyhood club to come to Villa.
I do rate Rickie Lambert, but £5m? Didn't Liverpool only pay £4m for him in the summer?They were presumably not as desperate as we are now.
Where had this news of the 5 mill come from ?
Maybe we should bring him him on loan.
Where had this news of the 5 mill come from ?
Media.
It's true desperation, and £5m for a club which doesn't have much money otherwise (it would be over a third of our transfer outlay, including the summer) is a surprising amount to pay for a 32-year-old. However, just because it's desperate doesn't mean it can't work - which is a pretty desperate thing to say, I admit.
If he came, scored 3 winners between now and May giving us 9 points, he would have been worth it. If you said to any side in the bottom 5 would you spend 5 million on 9 point now, you would take it. Lambert will score 4-5 goals if he starts. Depends on how he is deployed by saint Paul though.
Not buying it. It's a scam to get people interested and watching SSN when nothing is actually happening. I hate deadline day for this stuff
Social meeyda ?Where had this news of the 5 mill come from ?
Media.
Randy is on his way back from the Super Bowl Cup so he won't be sanctioning much tonight
Social meeyda ?Where had this news of the 5 mill come from ?
Media.
Randy is on his way back from the Super Bowl Cup so he won't be sanctioning much tonight
why would that stop him okaying deals? It's not difficult to be in contact with Fox etc these days wherever Randy is.
Sorry I won't do it again til next year.Randy is on his way back from the Super Bowl Cup so he won't be sanctioning much tonight
why would that stop him okaying deals? It's not difficult to be in contact with Fox etc these days wherever Randy is.
It's SillyVilla trying to use his superbowl joke again.
Pat Murphy has just tweeted that it's Villa saying no about Rickie Lambert.
Lambert and Cahill thrive on crosses so they would be as much use as Kate Moss' chip pan. What we need is someone who can take the ball off the centre backs, dribble round the whole opposition team and score a goal, for a few hundred quid a week.We should go for Roy Race
I'm actually quite pleased in a way that the whole day has been a bit of a damp squib for Sky Sports News HQ and their fucking silly yellow ties.
Pat Murphy has just tweeted that it's Villa saying no about Rickie Lambert.
Makes sense. What's the point of signing a striker that thrives on confidence only for him to run out for his home debut and hear four sides of the ground chanting "Fuck off, Lambert".
He's a bit one-footed these days.Lambert and Cahill thrive on crosses so they would be as much use as Kate Moss' chip pan. What we need is someone who can take the ball off the centre backs, dribble round the whole opposition team and score a goal, for a few hundred quid a week.We should go for Roy Race
Honestly Villa fans, please believe us, we did try to spend five million pounds on a player on deadline day. Unfortunately, we couldn't make it happen. We tried ever so hard, just like that time we bid eleven million for Frank Lampard.
Retard manager, retard owner. Ruining my club. Go fuck yourselves.
Retard manager, retard owner. Ruining my club. Go fuck yourselves.
Hold on to your hats Jim White and Katie Abdo are on next. Anything could happen!
Hold on to your hats Jim White and Katie Abdo are on next. Anything could happen!Can't stand that prick and his yellow twatting tie.
He's going to sign, inevitable
It's the thing that makes me retch more than anything surrounding deadline day - this hero worship of that Jim White twat. He's beyond embarrassing.
It's the thing that makes me retch more than anything surrounding deadline day - this hero worship of that Jim White twat. He's beyond embarrassing.
Did you know (and I promise you this is 100% true) that the major bookies take bets on what colour ties he will wear on deadline day.
It's the thing that makes me retch more than anything surrounding deadline day - this hero worship of that Jim White twat. He's beyond embarrassing.
Did you know (and I promise you this is 100% true) that the major bookies take bets on what colour ties he will wear on deadline day.
It's the thing that makes me retch more than anything surrounding deadline day - this hero worship of that Jim White twat. He's beyond embarrassing.
Did you know (and I promise you this is 100% true) that the major bookies take bets on what colour ties he will wear on deadline day.
I was in my local bookies the other day and I saw special betting slips on the counter for who killed Lucy Beale off Eastenders. It's not even a fucking real person!
It's the thing that makes me retch more than anything surrounding deadline day - this hero worship of that Jim White twat. He's beyond embarrassing.
Did you know (and I promise you this is 100% true) that the major bookies take bets on what colour ties he will wear on deadline day.
I was in my local bookies the other day and I saw special betting slips on the counter for who killed Lucy Beale off Eastenders. It's not even a fucking real person!
It's the thing that makes me retch more than anything surrounding deadline day - this hero worship of that Jim White twat. He's beyond embarrassing.
Did you know (and I promise you this is 100% true) that the major bookies take bets on what colour ties he will wear on deadline day.
I was in my local bookies the other day and I saw special betting slips on the counter for who killed Lucy Beale off Eastenders. It's not even a fucking real person!
I could have had a double on blue* and Nick Cotton.
I mean the colour blue for Jim's tie, not a has been boy band helping Nick Cotton kill Lucy Beale.
It's the thing that makes me retch more than anything surrounding deadline day - this hero worship of that Jim White twat. He's beyond embarrassing.
Did you know (and I promise you this is 100% true) that the major bookies take bets on what colour ties he will wear on deadline day.
I was in my local bookies the other day and I saw special betting slips on the counter for who killed Lucy Beale off Eastenders. It's not even a fucking real person!
I could have had a double on blue* and Nick Cotton.
I mean the colour blue for Jim's tie, not a has been boy band helping Nick Cotton kill Lucy Beale.
Could you put me a fiver on Red and Wilmott Brown?
It's the thing that makes me retch more than anything surrounding deadline day - this hero worship of that Jim White twat. He's beyond embarrassing.
Did you know (and I promise you this is 100% true) that the major bookies take bets on what colour ties he will wear on deadline day.
I was in my local bookies the other day and I saw special betting slips on the counter for who killed Lucy Beale off Eastenders. It's not even a fucking real person!
It's the thing that makes me retch more than anything surrounding deadline day - this hero worship of that Jim White twat. He's beyond embarrassing.
Did you know (and I promise you this is 100% true) that the major bookies take bets on what colour ties he will wear on deadline day.
I was in my local bookies the other day and I saw special betting slips on the counter for who killed Lucy Beale off Eastenders. It's not even a fucking real person!
I could have had a double on blue* and Nick Cotton.
I mean the colour blue for Jim's tie, not a has been boy band helping Nick Cotton kill Lucy Beale.
Could you put me a fiver on Red and Wilmott Brown?
It's the thing that makes me retch more than anything surrounding deadline day - this hero worship of that Jim White twat. He's beyond embarrassing.
Did you know (and I promise you this is 100% true) that the major bookies take bets on what colour ties he will wear on deadline day.
I was in my local bookies the other day and I saw special betting slips on the counter for who killed Lucy Beale off Eastenders. It's not even a fucking real person!
I think the day that you go into the bookies and see betting slips available to punt on who killed real people, that's when we will really be f**ked!
It's the thing that makes me retch more than anything surrounding deadline day - this hero worship of that Jim White twat. He's beyond embarrassing.
Did you know (and I promise you this is 100% true) that the major bookies take bets on what colour ties he will wear on deadline day.
I was in my local bookies the other day and I saw special betting slips on the counter for who killed Lucy Beale off Eastenders. It's not even a fucking real person!
I could have had a double on blue* and Nick Cotton.
I mean the colour blue for Jim's tie, not a has been boy band helping Nick Cotton kill Lucy Beale.
Could you put me a fiver on Red and Wilmott Brown?
If I was in charge of the BBC, on the Football Focus Deadline Special tonight I would have Dan Walker wearing a tie with all the Lucy Beale suspects on it. 'Av some of that Jim White!
It's the thing that makes me retch more than anything surrounding deadline day - this hero worship of that Jim White twat. He's beyond embarrassing.
Did you know (and I promise you this is 100% true) that the major bookies take bets on what colour ties he will wear on deadline day.
I was in my local bookies the other day and I saw special betting slips on the counter for who killed Lucy Beale off Eastenders. It's not even a fucking real person!
I could have had a double on blue* and Nick Cotton.
I mean the colour blue for Jim's tie, not a has been boy band helping Nick Cotton kill Lucy Beale.
Could you put me a fiver on Red and Wilmott Brown?
If I was in charge of the BBC, on the Football Focus Deadline Special tonight I would have Dan Walker wearing a tie with all the Lucy Beale suspects on it. 'Av some of that Jim White!
If was in charge of the BBC, on the Football Focus Deadline Special, I'd have Lucy Beale hosting it calling Jim White a twat every five minutes.
Every five minutes is a long way off beating the record for calling Jim White a twat.
Robinson being recalled was just bizarre and more chaotic thinking.
Collymore reckons the Lambert deal is on if Villa pay the bulk of the fee upfront now.
Robinson being recalled was just bizarre and more chaotic thinking.
Not really as with injuries and suspensions we'd have had no striker on the bench without him.
Robinson being recalled was just bizarre and more chaotic thinking.
Not really as with injuries and suspensions we'd have had no striker on the bench without him.
He's only been on the bench a couple of times though since he's been back and he only came back because Bent went to Derby.
Robinson being recalled was just bizarre and more chaotic thinking.
Not really as with injuries and suspensions we'd have had no striker on the bench without him.
He's only been on the bench a couple of times though since he's been back and he only came back because Bent went to Derby.
Robinson being recalled was just bizarre and more chaotic thinking.
Not really as with injuries and suspensions we'd have had no striker on the bench without him.
He's only been on the bench a couple of times though since he's been back and he only came back because Bent went to Derby.
Yeah I don't remember him being named in the first team squad very often.
0:47
I wouldn't say we were bored but we've just polished off a pack of chocolate HobNobs (other chocolate biscuits are available) and then had a five-minute chat about which biscuits would be which footballers.
Help us.
Didn't Liverpool pay 3m for lambert? And we're offering 5m for a 30+ player (again)?
He is not going to sign. Why on earth would you leave them to come to us?
He is not going to sign. Why on earth would you leave them to come to us?Yep, it'll be more down to his desire to uproot again rather than haggling over fees etc.
He is not going to sign. Why on earth would you leave them to come to us?
He is not going to sign. Why on earth would you leave them to come to us?
I can think of two reasons, money and the fact that they don't seem to be busting a gut to keep him.
BBc Radio chap just been on with Mark Chapman to confirm he has heard Lambert is definitely staying at Liverpool, thank god for that dodged a bullet there. We can spend 5 mil more wisely than that.In the next hour and 45 minutes?
Given recent history, it's a faint hope but they may have a plan B.BBc Radio chap just been on with Mark Chapman to confirm he has heard Lambert is definitely staying at Liverpool, thank god for that dodged a bullet there. We can spend 5 mil more wisely than that.In the next hour and 45 minutes?
Well, that was a nice idea while it lasted. Why not offer the money last Friday and see if you could do it then? Or even better, find a striker in Europe for £5 million that would do a job?
Amazingly inept from Lambert again. I fear fox is just as useless.
Like someone said earlier I think, he's a boyhood Liverpool fan. He's not going to want to leave there after just a few months.Definitely not for our basket case.
Well, that was a nice idea while it lasted. Why not offer the money last Friday and see if you could do it then? Or even better, find a striker in Europe for £5 million that would do a job?
Amazingly inept from Lambert again. I fear fox is just as useless.
I suppose the first that anybody had heard about Simon Dawkins was as it was announced officially.Given recent history, it's a faint hope but they may have a plan B.BBc Radio chap just been on with Mark Chapman to confirm he has heard Lambert is definitely staying at Liverpool, thank god for that dodged a bullet there. We can spend 5 mil more wisely than that.In the next hour and 45 minutes?
Given recent history, it's a faint hope but they may have a plan B.BBc Radio chap just been on with Mark Chapman to confirm he has heard Lambert is definitely staying at Liverpool, thank god for that dodged a bullet there. We can spend 5 mil more wisely than that.In the next hour and 45 minutes?
Well, that was a nice idea while it lasted. Why not offer the money last Friday and see if you could do it then? Or even better, find a striker in Europe for £5 million that would do a job?
Amazingly inept from Lambert again. I fear fox is just as useless.
If the money is available (which I am not convinced) this would have been the smart move.
BBc Radio chap just been on with Mark Chapman to confirm he has heard Lambert is definitely staying at Liverpool, thank god for that dodged a bullet there. We can spend 5 mil more wisely than that.
I suspect he is the Plan B.Come on down Darren Bent!
BBc Radio chap just been on with Mark Chapman to confirm he has heard Lambert is definitely staying at Liverpool, thank god for that dodged a bullet there. We can spend 5 mil more wisely than that.
Well, that was a nice idea while it lasted. Why not offer the money last Friday and see if you could do it then? Or even better, find a striker in Europe for £5 million that would do a job?
Amazingly inept from Lambert again. I fear fox is just as useless.
If the money is available (which I am not convinced) this would have been the smart move.
Of course it would, but we don't do smart moves.
Dave, as we all know we have the players already that can keep us up, signing R Lambert wouldn't have made a significant difference to where we will finish in the table at the end of the season, we all know that the other Lambert is the problem in terms of him completely failing to fulfill the collective potential of our squad. I am sure when all the transfer window hyperbole has dissipated and teams have to go with what they have got we will just get on with it, hobble to the end of the season and stay in the dreadfully poor league by a few points and the good fortune that there are at least three or four clubs shitter than us.
@ormsteind Villa in talks with Ched Evans.
Dave, as we all know we have the players already that can keep us up, signing R Lambert wouldn't have made a significant difference to where we will finish in the table at the end of the season, we all know that the other Lambert is the problem in terms of him completely failing to fulfill the collective potential of our squad. I am sure when all the transfer window hyperbole has dissipated and teams have to go with what they have got we will just get on with it, hobble to the end of the season and stay in the dreadfully poor league by a few points and the good fortune that there are at least three or four clubs shitter than us.
Infuriates me.
I suppose we could console ourselves that we arent signing Carlton Cole.
Whats happened to all the spotty oiks that used to hang on the shoulders of the presenters? Are they bored of it as well.
I suppose we could console ourselves that we arent signing Carlton Cole.
Whats happened to all the spotty oiks that used to hang on the shoulders of the presenters? Are they bored of it as well.
One of the presenters got harrassed by a blow up doll last time out it's all a bit low key this time.
I suppose we could console ourselves that we arent signing Carlton Cole.
Whats happened to all the spotty oiks that used to hang on the shoulders of the presenters? Are they bored of it as well.
One of the presenters got harrassed by a blow up doll last time out it's all a bit low key this time.
Is it me or are they going completely over the top about Darren Fletcher? He's hardly played for two years and prior to that was amongst very good players. That said Fletcher or cleverley?Fletcher looked at death's door at Villa Park. He was subbed at half time.
I wouldn't mind betting Cole will score at least 5 or 6 before the season is out
You have to think his fitness won't be the best.Is it me or are they going completely over the top about Darren Fletcher? He's hardly played for two years and prior to that was amongst very good players. That said Fletcher or cleverley?Fletcher looked at death's door at Villa Park. He was subbed at half time.
Is it me or are they going completely over the top about Darren Fletcher? He's hardly played for two years and prior to that was amongst very good players. That said Fletcher or cleverley?
Has Tim Cahill gone anywhere?Oz
I like to think of such things as "hazard of the job" that the rest of us find mildly entertaining related to the twats who make a living out of producing shite out of nothing and nowhere in attempt to get us all involved.I suppose we could console ourselves that we arent signing Carlton Cole.
Whats happened to all the spotty oiks that used to hang on the shoulders of the presenters? Are they bored of it as well.
One of the presenters got harrassed by a blow up doll last time out it's all a bit low key this time.
It's not all lost. We have 5mil to spend. That's more than enough to pay Lambert off and attract a decent manager.
Come on Randolph you know it makes sense.
Wonder if Lerner has switched his phone back on yet
49 mins left to find a goal scorer
Adebayor refuses to join QPR apparently. What a tool he is.
49 mins left to find a goal scorer
49 mins left to find a goal scorer
We have one. Possibly two.
It's the manager who's the problem. We could sign Ronaldo & Messi and still never look like we'll score.
49 mins left to find a goal scorer
We have one. Possibly two.
It's the manager who's the problem. We could sign Ronaldo & Messi and still never look like we'll score.
I've just seen Messi in Mr Egg. You heard it hear first.
49 mins left to find a goal scorer
We have one. Possibly two.
It's the manager who's the problem. We could sign Ronaldo & Messi and still never look like we'll score.
I've just seen Messi in Mr Egg. You heard it hear first.
Adebayor refuses to join QPR apparently. What a tool he is.
I'd tell 'appy 'arry to fuck off as well!
Adebayor refuses to join QPR apparently. What a tool he is.
I'd tell 'appy 'arry to fuck off as well!
It's more the fact that he'd rather sit on the bench than play
Is Mr Egg still there? I haven't been down Hurst Street for yonks.
Cahill still has it in front of goal.
If we're dealing in freebies only then he's a good a short term bet as any right now.
Is the Cahill thing genuine?I bloody hope so.
Disagree, we need another top class striker. Benteke has been awful of late and Weimann and gabby are hardly prolific.
Cahill still has it in front of goal.Does he? Last season in MLS he had a record of a goal every ten games, playing behind a striker. In MLS.
Is the Cahill thing genuine?
Does he? Last season in MLS he had a record of a goal every ten games, playing behind a striker. In MLS.He had a good World Cup though. You have to give him that.
His last season in the Premier League (three years) ago he scored 3 goals in 41 games.
Considering he doesn't do a whole lot when he's not scoring goals, I'm not sure what he'd be adding. The Cahill of 2007 is just what we need, but that doesn't mean we sign him eight years later. He would be the 2015 version of Robert Pires.
Cahill still has it in front of goal.Does he? Last season in MLS he had a record of a goal every ten games, playing behind a striker. In MLS.
His last season in the Premier League (three years) ago he scored 3 goals in 41 games.
Considering he doesn't do a whole lot when he's not scoring goals, I'm not sure what he'd be adding. The Cahill of 2007 is just what we need, but that doesn't mean we sign him eight years later. He would be the 2015 version of Robert Pires.
We I've not followed him to that extent but I've just watched him at the WC and Asian Cup. He still looked pretty potent to me. Fitness looked good for his age and has a footballing brain and that knack of being in the right place at the right time.With the greatest respect to the Asian Cup, I'd expect even Tom Cleverley would look potent against Kuwait and Oman.
Well that's that then, last one out please turn off the lights .
I don't get why some think we desperately need a striker. We don't.Are you available about 5 days a week for a bit of coaching?
We need someone to create chances for the strikers we have
You can have the best striker in the world up front but it will be fucking useless if you don't get the ball to him.
Problem with Albion's Carlton Cole deal.Because he is probably coming to us.
The lucky bastards.
Problem with Albion's Carlton Cole deal.
The lucky bastards.
So we spent just £9m or so on the squad that narrowly avoided relegation last season. Now we find ourselves in the same mess all over again.Lerner is a disgrace.
Good luck, Villa. We're gonna need it.
Encouraging that we are bidding 5m for players, the fact it was left until the last day suggests the Arsenal defeat make have woken up the Villa board.
I like Rickie Lambert and he could have done a job for us linking midfield with Benteke.
But its probably a couple of years too late plus he wouldnt have done much to address the epic lack of pace in the side.
So we spent just £9m or so on the squad that narrowly avoided relegation last season. Now we find ourselves in the same mess all over again.
Good luck, Villa. We're gonna need it.
Encouraging that we are bidding 5m for players, the fact it was left until the last day suggests the Arsenal defeat make have woken up the Villa board.
I like Rickie Lambert and he could have done a job for us linking midfield with Benteke.
But its probably a couple of years too late plus he wouldnt have done much to address the epic lack of pace in the side.
Encouraging that we are bidding 5m for players, the fact it was left until the last day suggests the Arsenal defeat make have woken up the Villa board.
I like Rickie Lambert and he could have done a job for us linking midfield with Benteke.
But its probably a couple of years too late plus he wouldnt have done much to address the epic lack of pace in the side.
Hopefully Sinclair starting one side and Gil the other, with Weimann and Benteke down the middle at Villa Park will help the pace issue.
Just about to leave the pub. Can someone update me on all our deadline day signings please? Assume we must've at least got a forward seeing as we haven't scored a goal in colour.
So we spent just £9m or so on the squad that narrowly avoided relegation last season. Now we find ourselves in the same mess all over again.
Good luck, Villa. We're gonna need it.
I understand the frustration and i'd love us to go out and spend more, but it's got to the point for me now where we'd be just giving money to the wrong manager. Ricky Lambert for example wouldn't have made that much difference under Lambert. It needs a managerial change more than anything.
Gil, Sinclair, delph & vlaar. Pretty good window for me.
Sacking Lambert would have been perfect.
Gil, Sinclair, delph & vlaar. Pretty good window for me.
Sacking Lambert would have been perfect.
What have Delph and Vlaar got to do with this window?
Think he means Vlaar is still at the clubGil, Sinclair, delph & vlaar. Pretty good window for me.
Sacking Lambert would have been perfect.
What have Delph and Vlaar got to do with this window?
i presume the reference is to signing new contracts although did not realise Vlaar had committed his future to us
Does anyone seriously think we bid for Lambert? Just a way of deflecting attention away from the baying mobs for a day.
Gil, Sinclair, delph & vlaar. Pretty good window for me.
Sacking Lambert would have been perfect.
What have Delph and Vlaar got to do with this window?
i presume the reference is to signing new contracts although did not realise Vlaar had committed his future to us
Think he means Vlaar is still at the clubGil, Sinclair, delph & vlaar. Pretty good window for me.
Sacking Lambert would have been perfect.
What have Delph and Vlaar got to do with this window?
i presume the reference is to signing new contracts although did not realise Vlaar had committed his future to us
Encouraging that we are bidding 5m for players, the fact it was left until the last day suggests the Arsenal defeat make have woken up the Villa board.
I like Rickie Lambert and he could have done a job for us linking midfield with Benteke.
But its probably a couple of years too late plus he wouldnt have done much to address the epic lack of pace in the side.
Encouraging for when? Next season? It could be too late by then. It's certainly too late for this season.
The incompetence of Lerner and Lambert knows no boundaries.
Think he means Vlaar is still at the clubGil, Sinclair, delph & vlaar. Pretty good window for me.
Sacking Lambert would have been perfect.
What have Delph and Vlaar got to do with this window?
i presume the reference is to signing new contracts although did not realise Vlaar had committed his future to us
Encouraging that we are bidding 5m for players, the fact it was left until the last day suggests the Arsenal defeat make have woken up the Villa board.
I like Rickie Lambert and he could have done a job for us linking midfield with Benteke.
But its probably a couple of years too late plus he wouldnt have done much to address the epic lack of pace in the side.
Encouraging for when? Next season? It could be too late by then. It's certainly too late for this season.
The incompetence of Lerner and Lambert knows no boundaries.
Not necessarily, I'm not a (Paul) Lambert fan by any means but there is still plenty to play for this term. It's our fifth season in a row fighting relegation so Im not surprised at the current state of play. At the start of the season I predicted a real struggle for goals and that we would be bottom at Xmas. Got the first part right anyway.
At least we are actually bidding for proper players again (Rickie Lambert and the MK Dons kid) rather than bringing in jokers like Grant Holt or Simon Dawkins. The here and now is very worrying but I think Fox is starting to improve us off the pitch.
Next summer is massive for AVFC
Encouraging that we are bidding 5m for players, the fact it was left until the last day suggests the Arsenal defeat make have woken up the Villa board.
I like Rickie Lambert and he could have done a job for us linking midfield with Benteke.
But its probably a couple of years too late plus he wouldnt have done much to address the epic lack of pace in the side.
Encouraging for when? Next season? It could be too late by then. It's certainly too late for this season.
The incompetence of Lerner and Lambert knows no boundaries.
Not necessarily, I'm not a (Paul) Lambert fan by any means but there is still plenty to play for this term. It's our fifth season in a row fighting relegation so Im not surprised at the current state of play. At the start of the season I predicted a real struggle for goals and that we would be bottom at Xmas. Got the first part right anyway.
At least we are actually bidding for proper players again (Rickie Lambert and the MK Dons kid) rather than bringing in jokers like Grant Holt or Simon Dawkins. The here and now is very worrying but I think Fox is starting to improve us off the pitch.
Next summer is massive for AVFC
Next summer is massive for AVFC
Yep, getting all the High Earners off the books so that we can fight a campaign in the Championship.
Encouraging that we are bidding 5m for players, the fact it was left until the last day suggests the Arsenal defeat make have woken up the Villa board.
I like Rickie Lambert and he could have done a job for us linking midfield with Benteke.
But its probably a couple of years too late plus he wouldnt have done much to address the epic lack of pace in the side.
Encouraging for when? Next season? It could be too late by then. It's certainly too late for this season.
The incompetence of Lerner and Lambert knows no boundaries.
Not necessarily, I'm not a (Paul) Lambert fan by any means but there is still plenty to play for this term. It's our fifth season in a row fighting relegation so Im not surprised at the current state of play. At the start of the season I predicted a real struggle for goals and that we would be bottom at Xmas. Got the first part right anyway.
At least we are actually bidding for proper players again (Rickie Lambert and the MK Dons kid) rather than bringing in jokers like Grant Holt or Simon Dawkins. The here and now is very worrying but I think Fox is starting to improve us off the pitch.
Next summer is massive for AVFC
We've been saying stuff like "next summer is massive" for the last 5 years yet every season we continue to get worse.
Lerner dictates where this club is going with his budget. To only provide approx £9m after we were nearly relegated last season tells you everything about what that man thinks of Aston Villa. He wants out and doesn't give a damn about us.
It was payment in instalments that was the problem.Does anyone seriously think we bid for Lambert? Just a way of deflecting attention away from the baying mobs for a day.
I questioned it too. No way Lerner would okay a £5m move for a 32 year old.
Think he means Vlaar is still at the clubGil, Sinclair, delph & vlaar. Pretty good window for me.
Sacking Lambert would have been perfect.
What have Delph and Vlaar got to do with this window?
i presume the reference is to signing new contracts although did not realise Vlaar had committed his future to us
How would he pass a medical?
Is the Cahill thing genuine?
No idea but it's all over Oz news here that he's left the Red Bulls by mutual consent with immediate effect and is looking at options in the Premier League, China and the Middle East.
I immediately thought of us, Everton and QPR.
£10m for Ryan Bertrand. The world is mad.
£10m for Ryan Bertrand. The world is mad.Not if your Ryan Bertrands agent it`s not.
So the one bit of business we did was let Robinson go back on loan!
You couldn't make this shit up
So the one bit of business we did was let Robinson go back on loan!
You couldn't make this shit up
So the one bit of business we did was let Robinson go back on loan!
You couldn't make this shit up
to be honest it wasn't as bad a window as I thought it would be a few weeks ago
we re-signed Delph which was a major coo, much bigger than buying a low cost player
we signed Gill, who looks pretty good so far
we didn't get any bids for our freescoring striker, who whatever we think we will need to keep us up this season if we do indeed stay up
Vlaar is still with us till the end of the season, don't know how important this will end up being but you never know, he is our best defender when fit
Sinclair- well he's a wide player, I'm not sure he is going to be a positive though, but you never know
Cleverley staying and bolstering the midfield for the rest of the season is a major boost
(ok I made the last one up)
but the window has been pretty good, the problem is Lambert,
it doesn't matter who we signed or didn't sign whether we feel its a good or bad window, Lamberts still the manager so we will remain rubbish
that's is all
The only hope i see for Villa is a concerted and co-ordinated action campaign by supporters to force Lerner to act. If we just voice our concerns and shake our heads we are just as culpable, i am too far away to actively participate but if finance was needed to fund such a movement i would willingly contibute. This has to stop now.
So the one bit of business we did was let Robinson go back on loan!
You couldn't make this shit up
to be honest it wasn't as bad a window as I thought it would be a few weeks ago
we re-signed Delph which was a major coo, much bigger than buying a low cost player
we signed Gill, who looks pretty good so far
we didn't get any bids for our freescoring striker, who whatever we think we will need to keep us up this season if we do indeed stay up
Vlaar is still with us till the end of the season, don't know how important this will end up being but you never know, he is our best defender when fit
Sinclair- well he's a wide player, I'm not sure he is going to be a positive though, but you never know
Cleverley staying and bolstering the midfield for the rest of the season is a major boost
(ok I made the last one up)
but the window has been pretty good, the problem is Lambert,
it doesn't matter who we signed or didn't sign whether we feel its a good or bad window, Lamberts still the manager so we will remain rubbish
that's is all
I agree really. We were crying out for creativity & width and we signed two (count 'em) wide creative players. If they click and Benteke finds his form we will be ok.
We'll certainly lose to Chelsea (as will the majority of teams in the league), so more hand wringing after that is pointless. We need to target the few games after that, ideally with huge fan support, and see where we are after that.
So the one bit of business we did was let Robinson go back on loan!
You couldn't make this shit up
to be honest it wasn't as bad a window as I thought it would be a few weeks ago
we re-signed Delph which was a major coo, much bigger than buying a low cost player
we signed Gill, who looks pretty good so far
we didn't get any bids for our freescoring striker, who whatever we think we will need to keep us up this season if we do indeed stay up
Vlaar is still with us till the end of the season, don't know how important this will end up being but you never know, he is our best defender when fit
Sinclair- well he's a wide player, I'm not sure he is going to be a positive though, but you never know
Cleverley staying and bolstering the midfield for the rest of the season is a major boost
(ok I made the last one up)
but the window has been pretty good, the problem is Lambert,
it doesn't matter who we signed or didn't sign whether we feel its a good or bad window, Lamberts still the manager so we will remain rubbish
that's is all
I agree really. We were crying out for creativity & width and we signed two (count 'em) wide creative players. If they click and Benteke finds his form we will be ok.
We'll certainly lose to Chelsea (as will the majority of teams in the league), so more hand wringing after that is pointless. We need to target the few games after that, ideally with huge fan support, and see where we are after that.
We'll be OK.
Thats all good then !
So the one bit of business we did was let Robinson go back on loan!No we also signed Gil and Sinclair and managed to hold on to a very useful midfielder called Delph.
You couldn't make this shit up
I might be being a bit thick here but didn't Lambert identify sometime ago that we wanted a "number 10" player. He then spent an entire transfer window chasing Hoolihan (sp) only for Norwich to laugh at him. Then he signs Joe Cole, with an injury record as long as your arm (or longer), who maintains his form and is in the sick bay for 99% of the time. So we come to this window, and it would appear that he had some money if the rumour re Lambert is correct, yet makes no attempt whatsoever (as far as we are aware and snippets usually slip out) to even try and sign someone for the one position on the field where we are crying out for new blood.
I know fans are disappointed with thus window but there is no point in panicking for players what we need is a new manager first. That's the best change we can make to address the current problem.
I know fans are disappointed with thus window but there is no point in panicking for players what we need is a new manager first. That's the best change we can make to address the current problem.
I know fans are disappointed with thus window but there is no point in panicking for players what we need is a new manager first. That's the best change we can make to address the current problem.
11 goals all season suggests that if there's anytime to panic it's now.
I know fans are disappointed with thus window but there is no point in panicking for players what we need is a new manager first. That's the best change we can make to address the current problem.
11 goals all season suggests that if there's anytime to panic it's now.
The reason to panic though is because of the manager.
The badge, I'd forgotten about that one. Looks like something a 10 year old would come up with. I've never liked it.
Surely it's Doug's fault for selling to the wrong person.
Surely it's Doug's fault for selling to the wrong person.
I might be being a bit thick here but didn't Lambert identify sometime ago that we wanted a "number 10" player. He then spent an entire transfer window chasing Hoolihan (sp) only for Norwich to laugh at him. Then he signs Joe Cole, with an injury record as long as your arm (or longer), who maintains his form and is in the sick bay for 99% of the time. So we come to this window, and it would appear that he had some money if the rumour re Lambert is correct, yet makes no attempt whatsoever (as far as we are aware and snippets usually slip out) to even try and sign someone for the one position on the field where we are crying out for new blood.
At the time, I didn't understand why anyone thought we'd had a good summer window.
Signings like Senderos, Richardson and Cole, especially, showed the almost total lack of ambition at the club. They are the sort of signings we'd traditionally laugh at Albion for.
The fact we were getting excited over spending £4m on a player in that window just says it all, really.
We have absolutely zero ambition beyond not getting relegated, none at all. Lerner has demonstrated this quite clearly, a four year contract for a man with a record over two years which is absolutely execrable, given on the basis of rewarding an opening set of four games which delivered 10 points.
Fox said last week that Randy is currently "a bad seller".
Well, I hope he gets a lot better at it, and quickly, because we're going nowhere until there is a total change of attitude at the top of the club.
I know fans are disappointed with thus window but there is no point in panicking for players what we need is a new manager first. That's the best change we can make to address the current problem.
11 goals all season suggests that if there's anytime to panic it's now.
The reason to panic though is because of the manager.
True, but Lambert is just a symptom of the real problem at Aston Villa, and that's its incompetent buffoon of a chairman.
I know fans are disappointed with thus window but there is no point in panicking for players what we need is a new manager first. That's the best change we can make to address the current problem.
11 goals all season suggests that if there's anytime to panic it's now.
The reason to panic though is because of the manager.
True, but Lambert is just a symptom of the real problem at Aston Villa, and that's its incompetent buffoon of a chairman.
The fact Lambert is still here is down to Lerner, yes, but you sound like you are totally absolving Lambert of blame.
He is nothing like "just" a symptom of the problem, he's a big part of it. Unless you think he's getting something like the best out of the squad. Do you? I certainly don't. Absolutely nowhere near.
To describe him as just a symptom of the problem is being massively forgiving, IMO.
Under Lerner we are in terminal decline. Relegation will be followed by stagnation, further losses, probably another relegation and ultimately administration. This club is staring into the abyss .
Where do you see us in 5 years ?Under Lerner we are in terminal decline. Relegation will be followed by stagnation, further losses, probably another relegation and ultimately administration. This club is staring into the abyss .
That's way way over the top!
Where do you see us in 5 years ?Under Lerner we are in terminal decline. Relegation will be followed by stagnation, further losses, probably another relegation and ultimately administration. This club is staring into the abyss .
That's way way over the top!
TSM was sacked after one season. Houlliers medical situation made it an easy decision to replace him but I suspect he would have been replaced regardless. So why Lambert has been given so much time and patience is strange. Nobody wants a different manager every season but nobody wants a badly underperforming manager for year after year either.
That's quite a fanciful notion. I'd say we are as far away from that as being in the bowels of the championship with dumb and dumber still here. 11 goals.Where do you see us in 5 years ?Under Lerner we are in terminal decline. Relegation will be followed by stagnation, further losses, probably another relegation and ultimately administration. This club is staring into the abyss .
That's way way over the top!
In the Premier League with a new chairman and manager.
We've brought two new players FFS. Since buying them we've had one league game against one of the best teams in the league where only one of them started and he looked quite bright.
Do you really think it's beyond the realms of possibility that Gil & Sinclair may have a positive influence? That Benteke may find his mojo? Lets see what happens after Chelsea, when both have had time to settle in before slashing our wrists.
We've brought two new players FFS. Since buying them we've had one league game against one of the best teams in the league where only one of them started and he looked quite bright.
Do you really think it's beyond the realms of possibility that Gil & Sinclair may have a positive influence? That Benteke may find his mojo? Lets see what happens after Chelsea, when both have had time to settle in before slashing our wrists.
We've brought two new players FFS. Since buying them we've had one league game against one of the best teams in the league where only one of them started and he looked quite bright.
Do you really think it's beyond the realms of possibility that Gil & Sinclair may have a positive influence? That Benteke may find his mojo? Lets see what happens after Chelsea, when both have had time to settle in before slashing our wrists.
We had the winnable games over December and Xmas and we didn't turn up.The pathetic return we got from those games - games where we all thought we would pick up a handsome collection of points - is all the evidence we need to see how poor our performances have become.
Shambles.
I can only assume with the utterly twattish manner in which Lerner runs the club that he has a bet with some super rich New England chums that he can spunk a quarter of a billion sterling up the wall in the most ridiculous manner possible. I can picture them all guffawing over their soup as our esteemed owner formulated another masterstroke of rank stupidity and edges ever closer to his goal of the total obliteration of Aston Villa for a bet
I can't believe people still use the phrase "winnable games" with regard to us.
If we'd lost 5-0 at bottom placed Leicester it wouldn't have been unjust.We had the winnable games over December and Xmas and we didn't turn up.The pathetic return we got from those games - games where we all thought we would pick up a handsome collection of points - is all the evidence we need to see how poor our performances have become.
Shambles.
After the win against Leicester at home, we played WBA, Sunderland, Palace, Leicester again...all "winnable" games against teams below us.
Out of a potential 12 points we gained TWO and scored NO GOALS.
If it was any other team I'd say they deserved to go down.
Struggling to deal with the reality that the team in question is mine.
I can't believe people still use the phrase "winnable games" with regard to us.Any game is winnable! Saturday's game for example is winnable but.....
Palace & Sunderland at home ! If they aren't winnable we don't belong in the division.I can't believe people still use the phrase "winnable games" with regard to us.Any game is winnable! Saturday's game for example is winnable but.....
We've brought two new players FFS. Since buying them we've had one league game against one of the best teams in the league where only one of them started and he looked quite bright.
Do you really think it's beyond the realms of possibility that Gil & Sinclair may have a positive influence? That Benteke may find his mojo? Lets see what happens after Chelsea, when both have had time to settle in before slashing our wrists.
We've brought two new players FFS. Since buying them we've had one league game against one of the best teams in the league where only one of them started and he looked quite bright.
Do you really think it's beyond the realms of possibility that Gil & Sinclair may have a positive influence? That Benteke may find his mojo? Lets see what happens after Chelsea, when both have had time to settle in before slashing our wrists.
Completely true and under normal circumstances I would agree with you that we can shrug it off and slowly build. But these are not normal circumstances. Our form is appalling and in the league is actually getting worse.
For me January was the opportunity to spend big to desperately reverse the decline. Randy didnt do that, he went for a couple of reasonable affordable additions to the squad. In my opinion we needed dramatic spending. I do not believe we are fine or that there are three teams worse than us.
Lerner, Fox & Lambert were calm and measured in January. IMHO they should have been in complete panic because that is what the season warrants.
That was never going to happen was it.
We had the winnable games over December and Xmas and we didn't turn up.
Shambles.
Out of a potential 12 points we gained TWO and scored NO GOALS.
We had the winnable games over December and Xmas and we didn't turn up.
Shambles.
Out of a potential 12 points we gained TWO and scored NO GOALS.
On a positive note, two points out of two games, when you fail to score, is a good return
“The phone call was about four o’clock on that day"Good that we're getting our irons in the fire nice and early.
I'm glad it didn't happen .“The phone call was about four o’clock on that day"Good that we're getting our irons in the fire nice and early.
No, I can't say that I'm upset that Rickie Lambert isn't sitting on our bench for the rest of the season and presumably the two seasons following it.I'm glad it didn't happen .“The phone call was about four o’clock on that day"Good that we're getting our irons in the fire nice and early.
I'm glad it didn't happen .“The phone call was about four o’clock on that day"Good that we're getting our irons in the fire nice and early.
Looking back at our failings over December in those games that were all winnable, that was so costly . It's a shame we hadn't shaken things up with the mangager before that run.
No, I can't say that I'm upset that Rickie Lambert isn't sitting on our bench for the rest of the season and presumably the two seasons following it.I'm glad it didn't happen .“The phone call was about four o’clock on that day"Good that we're getting our irons in the fire nice and early.
What does bother me though is that we decided as a club that another striker was important and decided to act on it for the first time after 32 and three-quarter days of a 33 day window.
Belgian striker named Din Sula being shown around the ground on Saturday and coming in on trial according to the Daily Mail.
Belgian striker named Din Sula being shown around the ground on Saturday and coming in on trial according to the Daily Mail.
Supposed to be 16. From the picture I have seen looks about 28!
The new Roger Milla then! Who was the other footballer who was supposedly a fair few years older than generally reported?
Obafemi Martins is older than he claims. Allegedly.Isn't there an urban Myth that Rigarbert Song was playing for Derby(?) when he was in his mid-40's, though listed as being about 29 or something.
The new Roger Milla then! Who was the other footballer who was supposedly a fair few years older than generally reported?
You may be thinking of '17 year old' Joseph Minala:
(http://i.imgur.com/kwRWZpS.jpg)
Obafemi Martins is older than he claims. Allegedly.
The new Roger Milla then! Who was the other footballer who was supposedly a fair few years older than generally reported?
You may be thinking of '17 year old' Joseph Minala:
(http://i.imgur.com/kwRWZpS.jpg)
Always makes me laugh this. If he's 17 then I'm sexier than Ryan Gosling.