Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: SashasGrandad on November 05, 2014, 07:35:19 PM
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/29921851 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/29921851)
The Ref lost it not the clubs!
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This might mean that some of the Spuds players will get some bans because from what I could see it was pretty much all Spurs causing the agro.
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I hope the Villa list all the incidents and ask why they were not red cards.
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Fines for both clubs, to go towards the repaying of Wembley.
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This might mean that some of the Spuds players will get some bans because from what I could see it was pretty much all Spurs causing the agro.
Depending on who these theoretical bans were against, even that could end up working against us if Spuds end up fielding weakened teams against those around us.
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Fines to pay for Neil Swarbrick's guide dog's vets bills!
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None of this would be happening if the ref had dealt with the first studs up two footed challenge properly and sent the Spurs player off. So now we will get punished again for something that was totally avoidable had Swarbrick done his job correctly. I have emailed the Premier League asking for an explanation but doubt they will reply. The main point is that we lost 3 points and our top striker for 3 games because of the officials incompetence.
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Suggest we send Roy Keane to the appeal hearing
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Easier for the FA to charge the clubs and get a couple of fines in the bank than it is for them to admit the referee was shit and caused most of the prblems.
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What no action against Mason? Unbelievable.
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None of this would be happening if the ref had dealt with the first studs up two footed challenge properly and sent the Spurs player off. So now we will get punished again for something that was totally avoidable had Swarbrick done his job correctly. I have emailed the Premier League asking for an explanation but doubt they will reply. The main point is that we lost 3 points and our top striker for 3 games because of the officials incompetence.
You could go earlier than that, with the arm in the face of Benteke.
The ref even acknowledged to the player that his arm was in the face when he gave the free kick.
I wonder what would have happened had Benteke thrown himself to the floor, a la Suarez, when Mason nutted him?
But this doesn't bring back the 3 points we were robbed of due to the refs incompetence.
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I know most people disagree but when I finally saw the footage of the incident I didn't think Benteke deserved to walk. It was a very tame push off. If that is 'violent conduct', blimey.
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I know most people disagree but when I finally saw the footage of the incident I didn't think Benteke deserved to walk. It was a very tame push off. If that is 'violent conduct', blimey.
I remember Lee Hendrie being sent off in a very similar incident. Makes you think that if a three match ban is coming you might as well of done a 'Dion Dublin'!
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None of this would be happening if the ref had dealt with the first studs up two footed challenge properly and sent the Spurs player off. So now we will get punished again for something that was totally avoidable had Swarbrick done his job correctly. I have emailed the Premier League asking for an explanation but doubt they will reply. The main point is that we lost 3 points and our top striker for 3 games because of the officials incompetence.
No, we lost our striker because he couldn't control himself. We lost 3 points because we weren't good enough to beat the opposition.
The ref was a dick though, I'll grant you that.
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Seems weird the FA doing that when you see similar handbags most games, yet they took no action when Hart pushed his face into the refs in the earlier match. It is almost like they have decided to stop the Respect campaign.
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I know most people disagree but when I finally saw the footage of the incident I didn't think Benteke deserved to walk. It was a very tame push off. If that is 'violent conduct', blimey.
In the modern game it was a red. But Mason and Soldado should have gone at the same time. That they got away with it is what boils my piss.
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It goes on sadly in every walk of life these days. Great big over the top punishments for high visibility high media profile things, the gaze of authority conveniently directed elsewhere when vicious, subtle, secretive stuff happens.
A Coronation Street actor is dragged through the courts in a post Savile witch hunt, a convicted rapist will doubtless be allowed to re enter the glamourous bubble of professional football. Double standards everywhere.
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Swarbrick obviously went to the same school of refereeing as the likes of Kevin Friend and Phil Dowd
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It goes on sadly in every walk of life these days. Great big over the top punishments for high visibility high media profile things, the gaze of authority conveniently directed elsewhere when vicious, subtle, secretive stuff happens.
A Coronation Street actor is dragged through the courts in a post Savile witch hunt, a convicted rapist will doubtless be allowed to re enter the glamourous bubble of professional football. Double standards everywhere.
A radio presenter is ostracised because of a case of sexual harassment while a film director and child rapist is allowed to ply his trade with the full support of his profession.
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Swarbrick obviously went to the same school of refereeing as the likes of Kevin Friend and Phil Dowd
Was Friend the clown at Stamford Bridge last season?
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Yes, he was.
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What a load of shit. The F.A. should charge the Referee for failing to control the players. Four of them, and not one of them spots the cheeky head butt by the Spurs player. Fecking useless.
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Can Mason get the ban he deserves because of this? If so I'm all for it.
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They started it.
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Can Mason get the ban he deserves because of this? If so I'm all for it.
I think it depends what was in the referee's report. If he mentioned it (and considering it led to the Benteke sending off, I can't see how he couldn't bring it up) then I think they consider the matter to have been dealt with.
If it's not mentioned then they can take action retrospectively.
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I wonder if the powers that be considered it a way of punishing Tottenham considering they largely initiated the raucous. It was mostly Tottenham players and only Benteke really involved in any heated stuff. Maybe they thought that it was a tad unfair that only benteke received any type of sanction and thought this was the only way to bring Tottenham to account also?
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I wonder if the powers that be considered it a way of punishing Tottenham considering they largely initiated the raucous. It was mostly Tottenham players and only Benteke really involved in any heated stuff. Maybe they thought that it was a tad unfair that only benteke received any type of sanction and thought this was the only way to bring Tottenham to account also?
The FA looking for a way to punish Spurs? Sure.
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My mate's conspiracy theory:
Benteke was targeted...not by those marking him during the game but by players unlikely to come into contact with him....so Lamela starts the "incident", Mason extends it (and asks the ref to wield a card), Soldado follows it up by "raising his hands" and pushing Benteke THREE times. (What was his reason for doing that?)
Stating the obvious but, if Benteke's red card was for the dreaded sin of raising of hands, Soldado should've followed Mason for use of his head who should have followed Vertongen for the studs up tackle who should have followed whoever it was with the elbow in Benteke's face that the ref acknowledged and took no action against. Once Swarbrick has fu**ed up he feels he can't be seen to make amends by sending off 2 or 3 Spuds players who should have gone and caused a bigger fuss, drawing even more attention to his shit performance and a black mark against his name etc.
Will Swarbrick be reffing a game this weekend?
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They started it.
Yeah, but Spurs' Dad is bigger than our Dad.
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Will Swarbrick be reffing a game this weekend?
No.
http://www.premierleague.com/content/premierleague/en-gb/referees/appointments.html
Move the marker to week 11.
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Aston Villa and Tottenham Hotspur have each been fined £20,000 by the Football Association for failing to control their players.
It follows an incident during their Premier League match at Villa Park on 2 November - which Tottenham won 2-1.
The FA charge stated that in or around the 66th minute, the clubs failed to ensure their players conducted themselves in an orderly fashion.
Both clubs accepted the standard penalty fine.
Villa striker Christian Benteke was sent off after he pushed a hand into Spurs midfielder Ryan Mason's face.
Television replays appeared to show Mason also pushing his head into the face of Benteke before referee Neil Swarbrick dismissed him.
Villa were leading 1-0 at the time of the incident but goals from Nacer Chadli and Harry Kane helped Tottenham come from behind to win.
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Can we send it down to London in one pence pieces?
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That's another seat in the White Elephant Dome paid for...
I might suggest a grand if it be set aside to send Mr Swarbrick on an assertiveness course them he might actually try and control the situation....and a couple of hundred on a trip to Specbleedingsavers
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That's January's transfer budget used up then.
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What's annoying about this is that we've been punished twice for this despite only really 1 player being involved, they had 3-4 players involved and have only had 1 punishment for it. The sooner football wakes up and introduces a citing officer the better. I'm seriously fed up of the FA blindly backing the ref even when they get things so badly wrong.
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Would the managers or coaching staff of either side been allowed on the pitch to control the players anyway?
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Would the managers or coaching staff of either side been allowed on the pitch to control the players anyway?
They expect that to be done in advance Clampy.
Pity they don't use the same approach with shite refs!
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FA charged by Aston Villa for failing to supply someone who can referee