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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: UK Redsox on October 23, 2014, 08:31:49 AM
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Loftus Road - Monday 27th Oct @ 8pm
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I fucking hate Harry Redknapp.
Given the easiest of easy rides by the press, almost en masse and clearly very lucky not be convicted a couple of years back.
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I'm trying to vote away win but it is either telling me the poll doesn't exist or that I am attempting vote rigging.
Anyway, we will hammer another nail into 'Onest 'Arry's coffin and he'll be gone before too much longer. 1-0 Villa smash and grab raid - Benteke 13 minutes.
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Rot stopped and a good away win.
Senderos, Sanchez and Grealish to come in for me.
QPR have looked utterly abysmal on nearly every occassion I have seen them and their last result was apparently the best they have played all season against an abject looking Liverpool who still eneded up beating them.
They are there for the taking, as long as we show some positive intent, which I think we will.
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Opposition really struggling, live on TV, Monday night - all the recipes for another disappointment!!
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Opposition really struggling, live on TV, Monday night - all the recipes for another disappointment!!
For QPR?
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Villa last won this tie in November 1992 and it has been played 7 times since - all ending in a narrow defeat or a score draw. Going to that tight little ground, in London, on a weekday evening is not something Villa have previously been good at.
(I remember it well, because I went to all such matches in the 1990s, when I was working in London.)
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Opposition really struggling, live on TV, Monday night - all the recipes for another disappointment!!
It's part of our PR profile innit?
Meedja come up with all the things that could possibly go right for the opposition...and then we comply....
Evertheoptimist, we will win!
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Last time we played at Loftus Road in the evening we won.
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Villa last won this tie in November 1992 and it has been played 7 times since - all ending in a narrow defeat or a score draw. Going to that tight little ground, in London, on a weekday evening is not something Villa have previously been good at.
(I remember it well, because I went to all such matches in the 1990s, when I was working in London.)
Did we win 1-0, with Yorke scoring our goal? If so, i was there as well, sat in the family stand.
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I think we've only ever won there 3 times, so draw. Probably 1-1.
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Rot stopped?
Nah. QPR desperate for a win and we're happy to oblige.
Doubt if anyone who witnessed at first hand the debacle at Goodison Park will think any different. You tell by body language that our players just weren't up for it. They have the losing mentality and I can't see it changing any time soon.
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I think we've only ever won there 3 times, so draw. Probably 1-1.
We even lost there when Fulham were using Loftus Road as their home ground about 10 years ago. I think Jon Harley scored for them but I might b wrong. I was terribly drunk at the time
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Rot stopped?
Nah. QPR desperate for a win and we're happy to oblige.
Doubt if anyone who witnessed at first hand the debacle at Goodison Park will think any different. You tell by body language that our players just weren't up for it. They have the losing mentality and I can't see it changing any time soon.
Can anybody provide a credible reason for why this only works one way? QPR, who have shit all season, largely because they're really shit, are playing a side who have been on poor run, yet somehow they're capable of stopping their own terrible form, but we, a better side, aren't?
Chico, Harley did score a screamer. We played them the following season there too and won, with Delaney having his leg snapped by Bocenegra.
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I'm gonna go mad and say Villa win, just because I can't stand to think of Orrible Arry and his Orrible bunch of mercenaries beating us.
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My R's mate dreads them playing on TV because 9 times out of 10 their awful in front of cameras, especially during the week. So that should cancel out our utter ineptness when the TV wants to put us on, on a monday evening.
I imagine given the teams and the undoubted level of shite football both will put on display, there will be about 3 nuetrals watching the game (not including the commentary team) and they'll all switch over long before the end.
I think it's going to be tortuous and low scoring, despite both teams being shit at the back.
I remember us playing Reading a couple of years back when we were in a horrible run in Lambo's first season. It was an awful game. Think we won it 1-0 (Benteke header) but the quality from both sides was utterly wretched. Someone on here brilliantly described it as "looking like two worms having a scrap."
I think monday will be similar. A result is very much needed though, as the following 3 games are much more difficult on paper. We're drek against Spurs and not brilliant against West Ham. I also figure despite our fortunate win against the Saints last season, they look better and won't let that happen again.
1-1 Benteke. Cissokho own goal for them. Dunne to hit his own bar and our bar, and then the loftus road bar, all in the same evening.
Reckon there may be 1-2 red cards too. Gabby's dished out a few silly crunchers this season. I reckon he's due a red soon.
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Opposition really struggling, live on TV, Monday night - all the recipes for another disappointment!!
This for me too, it's in our DNA now I'm afraid.
A surpsingly heavy and embarrasing loss, akin to the Harewood West Ham game under DOL.
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Don't worry ladies and gents, I'm going and my Monday night record with Villa is very good. Have faith!!
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What was the last game we played on a Monday night? Was it against Albion at home?
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What was the last game we played on a Monday night? Was it against Albion at home?
That was a Weds.
Our Monday games last season were
Arsenal (h) L1-2
WBA (a) D2-2
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Our last Monday win was the 6-1 Sunderland game. We had 2 other Monday games that season and lost both, Citeh (h) and Manure (a).
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Then you have to go back to May 2009 for our next Monday night win, 1-0 at home to Hull.
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I shall make the undoubted mistake of going to the pub to watch this. It's bound to be turgid and I have a nasty feeling about a late pen or scrambled goal winning it for them...
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I'm going for a 1-1 draw.
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They'll win.
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I'll take a 0-0 just to bore Sky TV!
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I think we'll win. They are worse than us.
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Our last Monday win was the 6-1 Sunderland game. We had 2 other Monday games that season and lost both, Citeh (h) and Manure (a).
We play on a Monday a lot less than I imagined.
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I watched them on Sunday v Liverpool and they didn't look like a side doomed. Zamora in particular was excellent. I don't think a point would be a bad return on Monday.
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Win. For the love of God just win...
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Villa on TV .. that don't bode well
I've got no idea on this , I thought they looked alright Liverpool and I'm sure they are going to be right up for it.
Heart says 1 0 villa , head says 3-1 qpr
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We've beat them loads of times since November 1992, dunno what stats are on about, 2-0 1992-93, 4-1 1993-94, 2-1 1994-95, 4-2 1995-96 and 3-2 in 2013. All of these were at home by the way. I don't remember winning there but the 1992 November game was at home.
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If we're losing, we can always just invade the pitch and break their cross bars again.
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We've beat them loads of times since November 1992, dunno what stats are on about, 2-0 1992-93, 4-1 1993-94, 2-1 1994-95, 4-2 1995-96 and 3-2 in 2013. All of these were at home by the way. I don't remember winning there but the 1992 November game was at home.
Most, if not all, of the stats are on about us away as we're playing them away. 91/92 we lost at home 1-0 and won away 1-0. We've won there 3 times in 20+ visits.
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They were quite decent though in the 90's until they sold Ferdinand and went down.
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They were quite decent though in the 90's until they sold Ferdinand and went down.
Highest placed London side in the first Premier League season.
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They were quite decent though in the 90's until they sold Ferdinand and went down.
Highest placed London side in the first Premier League season.
Yes and finished pretty high each season, until the one when they were relegated.
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1-1 is the obvious result but I don't think it will happen.
2-1 them. Lambert to hopefully get the boot after the biannual spurs loss, that would be great.
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They were quite decent though in the 90's until they sold Ferdinand and went down.
Highest placed London side in the first Premier League season.
Yes and finished pretty high each season, until the one when they were relegated.
Yep they sold Les Ferdinand and went down that season.
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Wrong thread, DOH!
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Which top division player in world football, currently still playing, has made over 1,000 appearances for his current club, scored over 100 goals for them but not a single strike in open play?
I saw a YouTube, maybe even on here, the other day a South American goalkeeper scoring a free kick- so I say him.
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Which top division player in world football, currently still playing, has made over 1,000 appearances for his current club, scored over 100 goals for them but not a single strike in open play?
I saw a YouTube, maybe even on here, the other day a South American goalkeeper scoring a free kick- so I say him.
It's not the Paraguayan fella is it, Chilvaret? Or is that a bit further back?
EDIT- No. Chilavert only managed a paltry 59 goals in 728 games. Pathetic.
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The answer was correctly answered in the Trivia thread. Rogerio Ceni, a keeper who has 121 goals in 1135 appearances for Sao Paulo, all goals were pens or free-kicks.
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They were quite decent though in the 90's until they sold Ferdinand and went down.
Highest placed London side in the first Premier League season.
Yes and finished pretty high each season, until the one when they were relegated.
I have fond memories of, I think, that 73 or 74 side who ran Leeds close for the title - Gerry Francis, Davie Thomas on the wing, Ian Gillard, Phil Parkes, Stan Bowles, Frank McLintock? I've probably got the wrong years for a few of them. They played some cracking football that year
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The answer was correctly answered in the Trivia thread. Rogerio Ceni, a keeper who has 121 goals in 1135 appearances for Sao Paulo, all goals were pens or free-kicks.
Why didn't Ceni take the penalty?
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The answer was correctly answered in the Trivia thread. Rogerio Ceni, a keeper who has 121 goals in 1135 appearances for Sao Paulo, all goals were pens or free-kicks.
Why didn't Ceni take the penalty?
A keeper has a better strike rate than Gabby.
/loveyareallyGabs
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Create some chances and win please Villa.
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1-1, Benteke for us, Stan Bowles for them
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The answer was correctly answered in the Trivia thread. Rogerio Ceni, a keeper who has 121 goals in 1135 appearances for Sao Paulo, all goals were pens or free-kicks.
You'd think he'd end up conceding a fair few through being caught up the wrong end of the pitch, but I read an interview where he claims it only ever happened once.
As for the QPR game, we will win 2-1
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Villa last won this tie in November 1992 and it has been played 7 times since - all ending in a narrow defeat or a score draw. Going to that tight little ground, in London, on a weekday evening is not something Villa have previously been good at.
(I remember it well, because I went to all such matches in the 1990s, when I was working in London.)
Did we win 1-0, with Yorke scoring our goal? If so, i was there as well, sat in the family stand.
Yes indeed. I got the year wrong. It was November 1991. Sealey, Staunton, Kubicki, Teale, McGrath, Blake, Richardson, Daley, Regis, Olney, Yorke, Substitutions: Ugo Ehiogu for Dwight Yorke, Dalian Atkinson for Ian Olney
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A nervy 1-2 away win.
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0-0.
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Don't care how we win, as long as we do. 3 points always feels like 6 when we're playing one of that 24-carat arsehole's teams. I'd get great joy from throwing him off a cliff.
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Opposition really struggling, live on TV, Monday night - all the recipes for another disappointment!!
This for me too, it's in our DNA now I'm afraid.
A surpsingly heavy and embarrasing loss, akin to the Harewood West Ham game under DOL.
every time that I read "it's in our DNA" or something similar, I feel like writing to Private Eye
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1-1, Benteke for us, Stan Bowles for them
(http://www.sygogmunter.dk/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/tony-currie-alan-birchenall.jpg)
I had it in my mind that this photo was stan bowles but having googled it now find i was mistaken. Thought I'd post it anyhow.
QPR fixture gives me shivers ever since Francis scored that hat-trick for them at our place before giving the Holte a wave as he left the pitch. At least we have a chance of a Dunne hat-trick this time to save us.
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Monday night games are so bloody pointless. I can't think of too many people who want to go along or watch footy on the telly on a Monday.
Anyway, i'll go for 1-1 draw. Benteke for us. They caused Liverpool a few problems and we're not playing that great.
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1-1, Benteke for us, Stan Bowles for them
(http://www.sygogmunter.dk/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/tony-currie-alan-birchenall.jpg)
I had it in my mind that this photo was stan bowles but having googled it now find i was mistaken. Thought I'd post it anyhow.
QPR fixture gives me shivers ever since Francis scored that hat-trick for them at our place before giving the Holte a wave as he left the pitch. At least we have a chance of a Dunne hat-trick this time to save us.
Tony Currie?
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Definitely Tony Currie - dunno who his fellow kisser is.
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Definitely Tony Currie - dunno who his fellow kisser is.
Alan Birchenall
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2-0 home win. Really can't stand 'Arry.
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Definitely Tony Currie - dunno who his fellow kisser is.
Alan Birchenall
Had an inkling it was...thanks Chico.
Who was Birchenall playing for at the time? Can't recognise the club badge. I know he played for Chelsea for a while...Leicester?
Currie is Blades, obviously.
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Definitely Tony Currie - dunno who his fellow kisser is.
Alan Birchenall
Had an inkling it was...thanks Chico.
Who was Birchenall playing for at the time? Can't recognise the club badge. I know he played for Chelsea for a while...Leicester?
Currie is Blades, obviously.
Leicester
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Cheers Chico!
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You just know that any struggling team, not won for a while and pressure on, or a striker who has been on a goal drought will inevitably win / score against us.
You can imagine teams actually looking for our fixture to come round
Hope Lambert reads a new tactical book over the weekend and gets the team to play a big tempo attacking game
Really need a win
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QPR will be desperate to win and will throw a lot at us. That leaves them with a dodgy backline if we take advantage. That's if Lambert decides to have a go, rather than attempting to bore them, us and the nation into submission.
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QPR will be desperate to win and will throw a lot at us. That leaves them with a dodgy backline if we take advantage. That's if Lambert decides to have a go, rather than attempting to bore them, us and the nation into submission.
We could afford a high line if they play a similar line up to last week. They've not got much pace, unless they play Hoilett or Phillips, both of whom have very little end product to go with their pace. I think given Cissokho is quick, Hutton can move when he's up the gears and Vlaar is deceptively quick, we can push our defence out a bit and have a go. Likewise if we catch them on the counter they look susceptable.
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If Sanchez starts, then the onus is on Westwood and Cleverley to really press their midfield and get us on the ball a lot further up the pitch.
QPR are a poor side, probably the worst in the league after Burnley. We have nothing to fear here and I hope we can take a positive intent into the game.
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.... That's if Lambert decides to have a go, rather than attempting to bore them, us and the nation into submission.
This is exactly what i think will happen. And another loss will result.
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1-1, Benteke for us, Stan Bowles for them
Stan Bowles autobiography 'The Original Stan The Man' is one of the best football books I have ever read. "People called me a footballer who gambled too much. I was a gambler who happened to play football". "People said I was a gambler, a drinker and a womaniser. I was too busy gambling to drink or sleep around". "If you are in a casino with only your taxi fare home in your pocket you gamble it. The buzz is knowing you will be getting a hotel room for the night or walking home".
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Oh no, Lawro has predicted us to win!!
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Oh no, Lawro has predicted us to win!!
Lawro's predictions are like the way I bet on League One and Two matches. Pick the team highest in the table. Let's just say I am quite a long way away from making my first million.
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We're going to fucking smash them.
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We're going to fucking smash them.
Is that Richard Key's prediction?
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Opposing team on it's arse. high profile manager under pressure and facing the boot, Sky covering the match.
You know the rest.
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2-2.
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There's always the chance of a goal when Richard Dunne is playing for the opposition. That gives me hope.
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1-0 QPR
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We'd better start scoring goals soon. Monday is the time to start. Let's see some ambition for heavens sake.
0-0 draw.
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We've scored 4 in 11 . Time to improve that stat. Radically.
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The answer was correctly answered in the Trivia thread. Rogerio Ceni, a keeper who has 121 goals in 1135 appearances for Sao Paulo, all goals were pens or free-kicks.
Why didn't Ceni take the penalty?
Because he still had his knob in the chicken.
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We're going to fucking smash them.
Is that Richard Key's prediction?
It was just banter.
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Sometimes when we are completely on our arse we pull a performance out of nowhere so I'm clinging to that but there is the curse of playing a desperately poor team who can't buy a win on live tv.
1-1.
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It won't be easy because they'll be up for it but I think we can get a win, especially if Benteke turns up and Sanchez is now up to speed.
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There is a sense that our season starts on Monday. We have had the phoney war with that run of tough games, now we will see how we measure up against the rest. as it is so long since we have been in this position I find it impossible to make any sort of confident prediction.
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We will absolutely batter them. 4-0.
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Think we are going to turn up this week. Benteke must be getting a lot sharper now and with Gabby and probably Weimann back in the team, we should have to much pace for a poor defence. PS please keep Nzogbia away from the pitch !!!!
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Vlaar and Benteke should be fitter than last week, agree on Sanchez. These are the kind of games he was bought for. With Senderos back too, QPR wont be able to kick us off their dump of a pitch. Guzan for me is barely hanging on to the shirt after throwing in one last week. QPR were shocking defending Liverpool's counterattacks last weekend so Id try and get a bit of pace into our midfield by pushing Gabby onto the left and Bacuna on the right. Give Westwood a break and time to give Grealish his first start supporting Benteke. Loftus Road isnt a ground for ball players on the flanks but Grealish can expose the perennially awful Karl Henry if he gets the ball in the right positions.
----------------Guzan
Hutton, Senderos, Vlaar, Cissokho,
Bacuna, Cleverley, Sanchez, Gabby,
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--------------Benteke
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Taarabt will score. Nailed on.
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Vlaar and Benteke should be fitter than last week, agree on Sanchez. These are the kind of games he was bought for. With Senderos back too, QPR wont be able to kick us off their dump of a pitch. Guzan for me is barely hanging on to the shirt after throwing in one last week. QPR were shocking defending Liverpool's counterattacks last weekend so Id try and get a bit of pace into our midfield by pushing Gabby onto the left and Bacuna on the right. Give Westwood a break and time to give Grealish his first start supporting Benteke. Loftus Road isnt a ground for ball players on the flanks but Grealish can expose the perennially awful Karl Henry if he gets the ball in the right positions.
----------------Guzan
Hutton, Senderos, Vlaar, Cissokho,
Bacuna, Cleverley, Sanchez, Gabby,
--------------Grealish
--------------Benteke
A bit harsh on Guzan when one considers the number of times he's kept us in games to put him on the bench because of one error that wouldn't have happened if N'Zogbia hadn't given the ball away.
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We are going to go there and win. QPR had their chances last week and blew it. They won't be up for playing us as they were for Liverpool. 5 straight defeats is inconceivable so 2-1 to us, Benteke with both.
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The stats show we don't lose 5 on the spin so I agree we will win here or draw at worst. Counter attack is fine just get the job done lads , QPR will see it as a must win game and will set out to attack which will suit us if we keep it very tight especially first half
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Don't care how we do it, even if we play terrible and nick a scrappy one nil with a fluke goal, we just need to get a win here, and really should be beating these. I suspect we will make life difficult for ourselves, a clean sheet for us would be good, but the defence is unstable at the moment, and QPR at home will have a chance, but I think we will win 2-1 Benteke and Vlaar for us.
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I would keep Benteke on the bench till halftime. Start with Weimann, Gabby & Richardson up top. QPR has one of the slowest teams in the league. They are one of the very few teams pace & pressing really could win us the game.
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when you haven't scored in what seems like forever, keeping the one player that has the ability to change that on the bench isn't my idea of being the solution. He needs to be out there. We need to create proper chances for him to score. It's that simple, yet I am sure we will make it look really, really hard.
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Every match seems to bring one or more injuries that have remained secret. If not, likely to be: Guzan-Hutton, Vlaar, Senderos, Cissokho-Sanchez, Westwood-Cleverley, Richardson, Gabby-Benteke.
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QPR are there for the taking. I hope we have the attitude where we expect to beat them, rather than the one where every game in the premiership is tough so we will be lucky to get anything from the game. Goalless draw for me.
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I would go with the following
Guzan
Hutton Vlaar Baker Cissokho
Sanchez
Westwood Cleverley
Cole
Grealish
Benteke
Let Cole and Grealish have free roles, we have been too stereotype for far too long
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Don't care how we do it, even if we play terrible and nick a scrappy one nil with a fluke goal, we just need to get a win here, and really should be beating these. I suspect we will make life difficult for ourselves, a clean sheet for us would be good, but the defence is unstable at the moment, and QPR at home will have a chance, but I think we will win 2-1 Benteke and Vlaar for us.
I'm not sure we are in a position to call any club 'these' anymore?
Or to say 'really should be beating these?'
They probably feel we are 'these'
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I see this as our hardest game of the season so far. Obviously not hard because of the quality of the opposition but because of the circumstances. Us needing desperately to pull out of a tail spin, them plucky unlucky losers to a "top" team last week. In addition we do not have a manager or a core of hard players, mentally hard, who can shrug off all the Arry worship and London club bollocks and simply go out there and stick it up them. My only glimmer of optimism is that the return of Keane will lift the cold dead hand of Lambert from the dressing room.
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Woke up this morning having dreamt we've lost 6-1. Holy shit I hope not.
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Monday night.
On the telly.
'Appy 'Arry love in on sky.
What could possible go wrong?
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I can't decide whether i'd throw Grealish in or go with Weimann, Benteke and Gabby. Liverpool caught them on the break a few times last week and apparently Ferdinand is back for them and he's not the quickest anymore.
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Don't care how we do it, even if we play terrible and nick a scrappy one nil with a fluke goal, we just need to get a win here, and really should be beating these. I suspect we will make life difficult for ourselves, a clean sheet for us would be good, but the defence is unstable at the moment, and QPR at home will have a chance, but I think we will win 2-1 Benteke and Vlaar for us.
I'm not sure we are in a position to call any club 'these' anymore?
Or to say 'really should be beating these?'
They probably feel we are 'these'
But I base that more on how bad they have been so far this season than how good we have been, but to be fair in the opener four or five games we have been pretty good at times.
As for Benteke I think it depends how far along fitness wise he as to weather I would start him. He needs to play some part at least if only to get him crucial minutes.
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More than anything tomorrow night we need to put up a good show. Even if we lose. I hope Benteke is up to speed for this one for Ferdinand is there for the taking. At least a season well past his considerable best. I would play Weimann for the simple reason that he will work hard up front guaranteed. You can never tell what Gabby might or might not do. I dont know if playing Sanchez would be helpful in this type of game. Joe Cole might be worth a half though.
Will Okore be on the bench? I doubt it but I certainly hope young Jack is. He could be the difference.
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Something just occurred to me. Arry still seething at apparently being given a good talking to by Fernandes will deliberately select Taarabt
who he will find in a nearby cafe just before the match. Mr Taarabt will exert himself score a hat trick and storm out of the club back to his massive plate of chips.
Arry will describe this 'as a masterstroke of football management' and further announce he is back in the running to be the next England manager.
All from his car window!
Do we have any luck?
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I'm still eating humble pie (baked in the oven of shame on gas mark egg on my face) for comments I made about Zamora during the play off final and which were solely responsible for QPR getting promoted in the first place. Payback time now - we simply have to start scoring goals and we will against this rabble, hopefully costing Redknob his job in the process. 4-1 Villa
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Tommy Johnson 1-0 at Southampton November 1995 and Emile Heskey 1-0 at Portsmouth January 2009. Each goal in the 20-something minute. They were similar evening games on TV and something similar to them would be ideal. QPR 0 Villa 1 Benteke (25), thank you please football gods.
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Wasn't the 0-1 win at hull MNF too .
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Already feeling nervous, neither club can afford to lose this one so it all points to a draw and the way I am feeling I would take that right now.
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Wasn't the 0-1 win at hull MNF too .
Nope Tuesday.
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Walking Dead is on tomorrow night. I'll watch the brain dead shuffling around without direction or reason, while a few hardy souls watch on in horror, then turn the football off and put Walking Dead on.,
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Walking Dead is on tomorrow night. I'll watch the brain dead shuffling around without direction or reason, while a few hardy souls watch on in horror, then turn the football off and put Walking Dead on.,
Ha ha, excellent. Barton's definitely playing then is he?
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3-1 at St Marys 2001 (Angel and Boateng scored) and 1-0 vs Spurs (Solano, 2004 ish) were MNF wins too that come to mind.
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0-2
Benteke, Cole
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If CNZ starts tomorrow I won't be responsible for my actions. I would like is to go 4-4-2 with Weimann and Bentekkers up front.
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Thought QPR played quite well last week and can't for the life of me see where our goals will come from
2-0 and hope i'm wrong.
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3-1 and I hope I am wrong.
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Got an unusually bad feeling about this one, we never win down there.
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I noticed we're longer odds to win. I think that's a bit strange given they're bottom of the league with one win all season. The bookies must have seen our last match.
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One team with a manager under real pressure playing against a team with a manager who knows he is under no pressure whatsoever regardless of the result added to the fact that we tend to gift teams a win just when they need it, I have a terrible feeling about this one. Let's just hope Burnley get their first win of the season out of the way before they play us
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QPR 0 - Villa 3. Dunne og hat trick
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If we win I will get tickets for the Spurs game. If not I will be streaming from my couch
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Very nervous about this one.
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QPR have a bit of a sickness bug apparently.
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QPR have a bit of a sickness bug apparently.
That actually makes me more nervous. It's when more and more signs start pointing to a Villa win that inevitably, the opposite happens. I can just see Dunne now, scoring a 90th minute winner (in the right end) for them, before evacuating his bowels inside the goal mouth and being stretched off.
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Don't bet on a goalless draw, apparently there has never been one between us and QPR in 42 meetings.
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QPR have a bit of a sickness bug apparently.
That actually makes me more nervous. It's when more and more signs start pointing to a Villa win that inevitably, the opposite happens. I can just see Dunne now, scoring a 90th minute winner (in the right end) for them, before evacuating his bowels inside the goal mouth and being stretched off.
I remember a game against Everton away a few years back when they had about half of their team out, including all their decent players. They still strolled to a two-nil or similar scoreline against us. What normally happens in this situation with the Villa is that some unheard of youngster comes in for his first game and has a real stormer
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Was reading a few days back that Villa have never gone five premier league games without scoring.Seeing as Lambert seems to have a knack of setting up unwanted records since he has been hereand we never shoot i have a horrible feeling it will be 1-0 to them
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Qpr 1-2 villa. Benteke and gabby
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I was optimistic about Everton. Gonna keep my mouth shut this time.
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I've never been early enough to get to a pub before at Loftus Road, but I am leaving work in about 45 minutes to chance my arm of being down in London with some to spare.
Any recommendations?
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I've never been early enough to get to a pub before at Loftus Road, but I am leaving work in about 45 minutes to chance my arm of being down in London with some to spare.
Any recommendations?
Decent, or brilliant...?
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I've never been early enough to get to a pub before at Loftus Road, but I am leaving work in about 45 minutes to chance my arm of being down in London with some to spare.
Any recommendations?
The one we went in last time was one next to the Hammersmith Odeon. The name of it escapes me. It's fine if you like away pubs. If you get their early enough it should be quiet before the fans start turning up. Failing that, you could jump on the tube.
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I think it will be a 1-1 draw. Dunne og.
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I've never been early enough to get to a pub before at Loftus Road, but I am leaving work in about 45 minutes to chance my arm of being down in London with some to spare.
Any recommendations?
The one we went in last time was one next to the Hammersmith Odeon. The name of it escapes me. It's fine if you like away pubs. If you get their early enough it should be quiet before the fans start turning up. Failing that, you could jump on the tube.
I can't see that helping at all as he will get tired after jumping for a while?
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I think it will be a 1-1 draw. Dunne og.
Paul and Roy will play for a 0-0 but something could go wrong and we may end up scoring.
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Hopeful noise on Senderos' fitness, if he is on the pitch a 0-1 shouldn't be beyond our capabilities. Dunne to get sent off for going through Agbonlahor after he gets tired of watching him sail past. Clharlie N'Zogbia to score the resulting free kick before disappearing back into obscurity.
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I think we will lose without putting up a fight and the season starts again.
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As long as Lambert doesn't think the lads did excellent, really excellent. And that he felt we were always in the game right up until the 2nd goal. And that we will just pick ourselves up and go again.
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I'm debating whether to try and find somewhere in a rainy Istanbul to watch it
I'm not sure I can be bothered really
Got a feeling this will be a very disappointing one
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Is Joey Cole raring to go? It woz 'arry wot gave 'im his 'ammers debut, for that he'll forever be
blowing bubbles grateful.
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I'm debating whether to try and find somewhere in a rainy Istanbul to watch it
I'm not sure I can be bothered really
Got a feeling this will be a very disappointing one
Me too.
I have 4 of those NowTV day passes left from when we bought the TV. I used one when MK Dons hammered Yanited. And 1 for the last day of the Ryder Cup.
I'm chancing my luck for 3 good picks
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Tommy Johnson 1-0 at Southampton November 1995 and Emile Heskey 1-0 at Portsmouth January 2009. Each goal in the 20-something minute. They were similar evening games on TV and something similar to them would be ideal. QPR 0 Villa 1 Benteke (25), thank you please football gods.
That Southampton game was amazing. Despite only being 1-0 I am sure we had more shots on target in that game than we have had all season
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According to the scientifically accurate, me playing Fifa predictor, it's going to be a 0-0. We'll have 60% possession and 6 shots on target though. Zogbia will have his best game and spank the woodwork.
That said half a dozen of the QPR players heads didn't appear. So I can't guarantee that this prediction will be 100% accurate. If you notice a few headless players in their team tonight, the get your money on a 0-0 immediately.
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According to the scientifically accurate, me playing Fifa predictor, it's going to be a 0-0. We'll have 60% possession and 6 shots on target though. Zogbia will have his best game and spank the woodwork.
That said half a dozen of the QPR players heads didn't appear. So I can't guarantee that this prediction will be 100% accurate. If you notice a few headless players in their team tonight, the get your money on a 0-0 immediately.
Au contraire. FIFA predicted a 3-1 defeat after we had most of the game. They score after 44, 81 and 89. Weimann gets an injury time consolation goal for us.
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According to the scientifically accurate, me playing Fifa predictor, it's going to be a 0-0. We'll have 60% possession and 6 shots on target though. Zogbia will have his best game and spank the woodwork.
That said half a dozen of the QPR players heads didn't appear. So I can't guarantee that this prediction will be 100% accurate. If you notice a few headless players in their team tonight, the get your money on a 0-0 immediately.
Au contraire. FIFA predicted a 3-1 defeat after we had most of the game. They score after 44, 81 and 89. Weimann gets an injury time consolation goal for us.
Richard, I'm gonna believe my Fifa to be correct...even though it erased the melons from half of the QPR side. ha ha.
(Yours does sound disturbingly realistic though...aside from the us having most of the game bit).
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I think it will be a 1-1 draw. Dunne og.
Paul and Roy will play.
Now we talking!
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a win please, don't care how :)
UTV
The Doc
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According to the scientifically accurate, me playing Fifa predictor, it's going to be a 0-0. We'll have 60% possession and 6 shots on target though. Zogbia will have his best game and spank the woodwork.
That said half a dozen of the QPR players heads didn't appear. So I can't guarantee that this prediction will be 100% accurate. If you notice a few headless players in their team tonight, the get your money on a 0-0 immediately.
Au contraire. FIFA predicted a 3-1 defeat after we had most of the game. They score after 44, 81 and 89. Weimann gets an injury time consolation goal for us.
Richard, I'm gonna believe my Fifa to be correct...even though it erased the melons from half of the QPR side. ha ha.
(Yours does sound disturbingly realistic though...aside from the us having most of the game bit).
What sort of computer system would predict aston Villa get 60% posession in any game?
Or 6 shots on target?
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According to the scientifically accurate, me playing Fifa predictor, it's going to be a 0-0. We'll have 60% possession and 6 shots on target though. Zogbia will have his best game and spank the woodwork.
That said half a dozen of the QPR players heads didn't appear. So I can't guarantee that this prediction will be 100% accurate. If you notice a few headless players in their team tonight, the get your money on a 0-0 immediately.
Au contraire. FIFA predicted a 3-1 defeat after we had most of the game. They score after 44, 81 and 89. Weimann gets an injury time consolation goal for us.
Richard, I'm gonna believe my Fifa to be correct...even though it erased the melons from half of the QPR side. ha ha.
(Yours does sound disturbingly realistic though...aside from the us having most of the game bit).
What sort of computer system would predict aston Villa get 60% posession in any game?
Or 6 shots on target?
Must be playing on a ZX Spectrum
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Very poor league record against QPR (considering it's QPR).
Won 12 Drawn 10 Lost 20 and November '91 was the last win there.
A draw wouldn't be the worst result obviously, but that would mean scoring at least once I suspect.
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Some interesting stats going into the game. Our average possession is the lowest in the Prem. 38.7% possession on average. Also lowest shots per game on average at 7.8shots per game, which has of course only yielded us 12 on target all season and four goals.
However, QPR are the fourth worst side at keeping the ball with only 44% possession on average. I would hope that we'll see a pretty even share of the ball in this game as those stats don't account for the fact we've played last seasons top 5, including Arsenal who virtually always get 60% minimum. Likewise I'm hoping to see our shot count be comfortably above our average. We've got to really attack this game.
QPR have scored more goals than us, but apparently have only scored one from open play. They really struggle to create, as do we of course, so we need to limit the amount of freekicks and corners we give them as that is likely their best avenue.
Despite our reliance on counter attacking, none of our four goals have been direct from a counter attack. We've scored 3 from open play and 1 from a set piece. In fact our counter attacking play has been pretty poor this season on the whole, so we've got to expand our play a lot more.
Interestingly our long ball stats in Lambo's first two seasons were always pretty high. This season, for better or worse, we're actually in the bottom half of the table in terms of long balls. That stat may well increase now Tekkers is back, but I hope we try and keep things on the deck more.
Anyway, should be an interesting match tonight. Quality will undoubtedly be low and it'll be cagey, but I hope we try and keep the ball, and expand our play a bit. Most of all I want a high tempo and a high line and really get at them.
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anyone know where we are drinking before the game tonight?
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One interesting stat I've just noticed. Despite the fact we've defended for pretty much 90% of the season so far. We actually average lowest in tackles per game.
You'd think having play backs to the wall so much, we'd be getting our foot in a lot more. As it is, we're not. We've got to be a bit more aggressive I think, particularly in the opposition half with pressing. We're making it too easy for sides. We're pretty low on interceptions per game too.
So basically...we don't keep the ball well, we don't create chances, we don't try hard enough to get the ball back either. It all adds up and something has to change. Hopefully starting tonight.
I think putting a big bastard like Sanchez in midfield might be a good start. We need a ball winner. Westwood and Cleverley don't tackle. Delph can't tackle (injured anyway of course). So we definitely need someone in midfield who will try and tackle.
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I'd imagine our stats for running around while the opposition play football are pretty strong?
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I'd imagine our stats for running around while the opposition play football are pretty strong?
Probably.
Unsurprisingly too, our best performing player (according to who scored) this season is Alan Hutton. Who ranks 105th in the Premier League.
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We'll win 2-0, The Beast & Gabby to score.
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One interesting stat I've just noticed. Despite the fact we've defended for pretty much 90% of the season so far. We actually average lowest in tackles per game.
You'd think having play backs to the wall so much, we'd be getting our foot in a lot more. As it is, we're not. We've got to be a bit more aggressive I think, particularly in the opposition half with pressing. We're making it too easy for sides. We're pretty low on interceptions per game too.
So basically...we don't keep the ball well, we don't create chances, we don't try hard enough to get the ball back either. It all adds up and something has to change. Hopefully starting tonight.
I think putting a big bastard like Sanchez in midfield might be a good start. We need a ball winner. Westwood and Cleverley don't tackle. Delph can't tackle (injured anyway of course). So we definitely need someone in midfield who will try and tackle.
Tackling is disappearing from the game a bit though isn't it? If you're a side that sits deep like us I don't think its a surprise
But I agree it would be good to get pressure on the ball higher up the pitch.
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I'd imagine our stats for running around while the opposition play football are pretty strong?
Fantastic. Some great stats for pointing too.
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I'd imagine our stats for running around while the opposition play football are pretty strong?
Fantastic. Some great stats for pointing too.
We have a strong history in pointing, who could forget the Preeeeemier League's MVP (Most Valuble Pointer) Mark Kinsella?
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anyone know where we are drinking before the game tonight?
Me and Supertom are drinking in front of our TVs whilst we recreate the game on our respective Playstations.
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I think one will be a nil-nil bore. Desperate for a win though!
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One interesting stat I've just noticed. Despite the fact we've defended for pretty much 90% of the season so far. We actually average lowest in tackles per game.
You'd think having play backs to the wall so much, we'd be getting our foot in a lot more. As it is, we're not. We've got to be a bit more aggressive I think, particularly in the opposition half with pressing. We're making it too easy for sides. We're pretty low on interceptions per game too.
So basically...we don't keep the ball well, we don't create chances, we don't try hard enough to get the ball back either. It all adds up and something has to change. Hopefully starting tonight.
I think putting a big bastard like Sanchez in midfield might be a good start. We need a ball winner. Westwood and Cleverley don't tackle. Delph can't tackle (injured anyway of course). So we definitely need someone in midfield who will try and tackle.
Tackling is disappearing from the game a bit though isn't it? If you're a side that sits deep like us I don't think its a surprise
But I agree it would be good to get pressure on the ball higher up the pitch.
It's certainly a dying art, but we're definitely allowing opposition players far too much time and freedom on the ball. And whilst having 9-10 men camped back in defence will keep teams out to a point, it only goes so far and merely delays the inevitable. Our defence isn't good enough to cope with that pressure. So we've got to start getting in teams faces.
Ironically last season our discipline was one of the worst in the fairplay league. This season we're one of the fairest. We don't give away many fouls, not many yellows. In some regards that's good, but you'd have thought with Keano being on board we'd have a bit more of nasty streak. Sometimes, for want of quality, you need that. I think we're a bit soft.
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anyone know where we are drinking before the game tonight?
Me and Supertom are drinking in front of our TVs whilst we recreate the game on our respective Playstations.
Ha ha. My game was so bad earlier I needed a couple of drinks. And I'm damned if I'm playing it again, before then enduring the real life match!
I'll admit sometimes when N'Zogbia gets on the ball in real life, head down, running into a cul-de-sac, I find myself trying to press an imaginary X Button.
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I hope we win.
Can't be arsed to run through all the various arguments in favour of this or that, I am just tired of us not keeping the ball, not getting shots on target and not scoring.
It'd be nice to have fun watching us play for a change.
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I'd imagine our stats for running around while the opposition play football are pretty strong?
"You may not be the most skilled player but you can be the hardest working player. Nobody can stop you running" - Alex McLeish.
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One interesting stat I've just noticed. Despite the fact we've defended for pretty much 90% of the season so far. We actually average lowest in tackles per game.
You'd think having play backs to the wall so much, we'd be getting our foot in a lot more. As it is, we're not. We've got to be a bit more aggressive I think, particularly in the opposition half with pressing. We're making it too easy for sides. We're pretty low on interceptions per game too.
So basically...we don't keep the ball well, we don't create chances, we don't try hard enough to get the ball back either. It all adds up and something has to change. Hopefully starting tonight.
I think putting a big bastard like Sanchez in midfield might be a good start. We need a ball winner. Westwood and Cleverley don't tackle. Delph can't tackle (injured anyway of course). So we definitely need someone in midfield who will try and tackle.
Tackling is disappearing from the game a bit though isn't it? If you're a side that sits deep like us I don't think its a surprise
But I agree it would be good to get pressure on the ball higher up the pitch.
It's certainly a dying art, but we're definitely allowing opposition players far too much time and freedom on the ball. And whilst having 9-10 men camped back in defence will keep teams out to a point, it only goes so far and merely delays the inevitable. Our defence isn't good enough to cope with that pressure. So we've got to start getting in teams faces.
Ironically last season our discipline was one of the worst in the fairplay league. This season we're one of the fairest. We don't give away many fouls, not many yellows. In some regards that's good, but you'd have thought with Keano being on board we'd have a bit more of nasty streak. Sometimes, for want of quality, you need that. I think we're a bit soft.
The stats are horrendous on almost every criterion.
One thing I noted on MOTD this weekend was the simple analysis of Blunderland's game on Saturday about their closing-down of oppo players. This is something that should be a pre-requisite of any team: I'm not sure we do it that well and certainly if we don't we'll lose more than we win this season.
For tonight, can Lambert get this squad positive, on the front foot and forcing the game, for 90 minutes? - that's the challenge we face with this manager.
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Just realized your bloody clocks went back didn't they?
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Don't know why we are so fussed about tackling, it's overrated.
A bit like possession, shooting and scoring goals, all overrated.
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Just realized your bloody clocks went back didn't they?
Yep. Pitch black at quarter past five.
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Don't know why we are so fussed about tackling, it's overrated.
A bit like possession, shooting and scoring goals, all overrated.
All this football rubbish, it's so 2008. By the end of this season we should have eliminated the football aspect of our game completely, allowing us to concentrate fully on running, huffing, puffing and standing still.
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Don't forget the pointing.
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Clark's playing according to the wireless.
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Snap? Poker? Dominos?
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Don't forget the pointing.
That goes without saying.
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Clark's playing according to the wireless.
Oh FFS
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0-0 or 1-1
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Guzan, Lowton, Vlaar (c), Clark, Cissokho, Westwood, Cleverley, Sanchez, Weimann, Agbonlahor, Benteke.
Lowton!?
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Clark's playing according to the wireless.
Oh FFS
Great
0-1 or 1-2 then.
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I hope we win.
Can't be arsed to run through all the various arguments in favour of this or that, I am just tired of us not keeping the ball, not getting shots on target and not scoring.
It'd be nice to have fun watching us play for a change.
A win, 60% possession, a clean sheet, Okore to come on, Benteke to score, Gabby making it safe after coming on as sub, Lambert giving a clear and concise post-match interview, and Manchester being nuked off the map. Thus minimising the possibility of any arguments whatsoever on here tomorrow morning.
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Guzan, Lowton, Vlaar (c), Clark, Cissokho, Westwood, Cleverley, Sanchez, Weimann, Agbonlahor, Benteke.
Lowton!?
Sweet baby Jesus and the orphans. Fuck.