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Title: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on October 15, 2014, 09:48:24 AM
It's the most played fixture in English football you know.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on October 15, 2014, 09:51:11 AM
I think we will win this one if purely from the perspective that law of averages suggests we will get something out of it and not lose a fourth game on the bounce. 1-0 Villa, The Beast after 53 minutes.

Apropos of nothing, and based on your comment above, why do we always have to be told that "this is [e.g.] the 261st Merseyside Derby" but never have to be given that information about any other match, derby or otherwise?
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: nigel on October 15, 2014, 10:42:38 AM
It's the most played fixture in English football you know.

lol

I think I probably post this every game, but until fairly recently all the stats were pretty even, too.
Games won and lost were within 1 game, and goals for and against were within 5 (?) which is pretty even after 170+ games
This may have changed, slightly, in the last couple of years, but, I'm sure someone would know the exact figures now.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Deano's Mullet on October 15, 2014, 11:51:10 AM
Lambert will go defensive and we'll hold out with brave defending until they score. Once they do, no plan B, game over. We need to start going for games, particularly as Everton have had a shaky start. 0-2
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: supertom on October 15, 2014, 11:58:59 AM
Score draw. They look ropey at the moment but will undoubtedly improve. Neither team looks like keeping a clean sheet at the moment, or scoring too many. It'll be tight. 1-1 or 2-2.
Benteke to get back in the goals.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on October 15, 2014, 12:04:05 PM
I'm pretty confident this will end 1-1.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on October 15, 2014, 01:16:54 PM
I really fancy us to win this one.

I guarantee that Everton fans will spend 98% of the game in absolute silence, the other 1% whinning in some angry high pitched tone and the other 1% screaming handball. Their support is utter toss.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dr Butler on October 15, 2014, 01:28:08 PM
I really fancy us to win this one.

I guarantee that Everton fans will spend 98% of the game in absolute silence, the other 1% whinning in some angry high pitched tone and the other 1% screaming handball. Their support is utter toss.

this could be said about any game at their place for the last god knows how long....whiney tossers that for some reason have a big beef about the Villa.

a decent display please and repeat of the last second 3-2 win from a few years ago...that should keep them quiet.

UTV
The Doc
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: fbriai on October 15, 2014, 01:33:33 PM
I reckon the big man might start and score.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: BILL DE VALL on October 15, 2014, 01:55:39 PM
We're due a win and Everton's defence is beginning to look a bit 'Wiganised' by Martinez.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: pooligan on October 15, 2014, 02:14:01 PM
Everton have been letting goals in by the bucket load so far this season,so what better team to face than a side who don't even have a shot or two on goal .I expect the same negative approach by Lambert  as usual,so i am going for 2-0 to them
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: edgysatsuma89 on October 15, 2014, 02:25:31 PM
Just don't fancy us. 3-1. With Westwood's arm in a permanent pointing towards 👉 naismith position.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on October 15, 2014, 02:33:58 PM
Them 1 Us 2.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Damo70 on October 15, 2014, 02:40:41 PM
I have gone for a draw. I hope we can delay Everton's turnaround in fortunes for at least one more game.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on October 15, 2014, 02:56:47 PM
Unfortunately for us, we're not playing Everton after they've had a midweek trip to Russia, like those jammy bastards Manure.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: The Left Side on October 15, 2014, 04:51:58 PM
1-1 with Kevin Sheedy opening with a penalty before the Beast scores for us.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Goldie.7 on October 15, 2014, 04:57:26 PM
2-1 them.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: timeoutbigbar on October 15, 2014, 05:07:31 PM
Unfortunately for us, we're not playing Everton after they've had a midweek trip to Russia, like those jammy bastards Manure.

And they still almost fucked it up. 

I'll go for a 1-0 win, Benteke to start and score. 
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on October 15, 2014, 05:36:57 PM
We've score 4 goals all season, they've score 13; we've conceded 9, they've conceded 16.

Based on that 0-0 looks a likely scoreline unless they score, in which case we're buggered.

1-0 Villa win with us defending for 87 minutes.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on October 15, 2014, 05:58:08 PM
I am bizarrely confident.

For too long uppity clubs like Everton & Spurs have been beating us with ease. I feel the tide has turned and the rightful order of things will re establish themselves this weekend.

0-3 to us.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ez on October 15, 2014, 06:26:57 PM
I'm just looking forward to seeing us play attacking football again.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: CJ on October 15, 2014, 06:43:38 PM
The Beast is back but knowing our luck Lukaku will probably find his form for them. 2-2, all Belgian - Lukaku and Mirallas for them, Benteke 2 for us, they get a penalty but Barry will be off the pitch at the time
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on October 15, 2014, 06:51:47 PM
Miralles is out.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on October 15, 2014, 06:53:25 PM
Miralles is out.
As is England stalwart John Stones
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: CJ on October 15, 2014, 06:53:40 PM
Excellent - 2-1 to us then!
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on October 15, 2014, 07:17:28 PM
3-3
Jimmy Husband, Colin Harvey, Brian Labone for them.
Tony Morley hat trick for us, all goal of the season contenders.



Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Steve kirk on October 15, 2014, 07:40:25 PM
Everton are going through a really tough spell and need a win badly, you know the script, sorry but its consecutive defeat number 4, them 2 us 1
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on October 15, 2014, 08:09:06 PM
They're going through a bad run because they cannot defend for toffee. As we have found out, it matters not how ou go about the rest of the game if you cannot nail the fundamentals at the back.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on October 15, 2014, 08:12:50 PM
Evertheoptimist - we will win!

Concerned about the defence if Vlaar is out, Senderos is injured, and....?
If Baker continues his recent MoM form great, if not.....?

Okore will come in, play wonderfully and all the stats-fuelled pundits will explode the idea that he once breathed English air, therefore qualifies for Ingerlund and is the saviour of English football, replacing the role that Berahino was handed last week and Sterling the week before.

Sorry.
I've been to the pub.
It's 20 yards away...opposite my house.
Wouldn't you?

UTV!
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on October 15, 2014, 08:27:57 PM
1-1 if Vlaar plays, 3-1 if it's Coco Clark and bumbling Baker.

First trip to Goodison on Saturday anyway, think I'm in the lower tier so will even watching the matc.....sorry the back of the bloke infront of me's head for 90 minutes!
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Goldie.7 on October 15, 2014, 08:38:04 PM
They need a win so no doubts it will be against us. They'll probably score early, go 0-2 up after the break, we'll pull one back around 74th minute mark and that will be that.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: fbriai on October 15, 2014, 10:26:33 PM
Evertheoptimist - we will win!

Concerned about the defence if Vlaar is out, Senderos is injured, and....?
If Baker continues his recent MoM form great, if not.....?

Okore will come in, play wonderfully and all the stats-fuelled pundits will explode the idea that he once breathed English air, therefore qualifies for Ingerlund and is the saviour of English football, replacing the role that Berahino was handed last week and Sterling the week before.

Sorry.
I've been to the pub.
It's 20 yards away...opposite my house.
Wouldn't you?

UTV!

Which pub you been in, FMWMU?
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on October 15, 2014, 11:50:57 PM
They need a win so no doubts it will be against us. They'll probably score early, go 0-2 up after the break, we'll pull one back around 74th minute mark and that will be that.

What happens in the 49th minute? I want to know just in case I need to use the facilities after a half time pint. Wouldn't want to miss anything interesting.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Goldie.7 on October 15, 2014, 11:59:55 PM
They need a win so no doubts it will be against us. They'll probably score early, go 0-2 up after the break, we'll pull one back around 74th minute mark and that will be that.

What happens in the 49th minute? I want to know just in case I need to use the facilities after a half time pint. Wouldn't want to miss anything interesting.

They'll score in that minute now you've said it.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: not3bad on October 16, 2014, 10:27:27 AM
I'm gonna stick my neck out and say Villa to win.  Gabby and Ron both return and the former gets the only goal.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: simon ward 50 on October 16, 2014, 11:35:03 AM
0-0 boring draw we will take that!
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on October 16, 2014, 04:24:46 PM
So Vlaar to come back in, but Delph lkely to miss out.

I think we will see a side of Guzan and a back four of Hutton, Baker, Vlaar, Cissokho. A midfield then of Westwood stiting with Richardson and Cleverley behind Benteke Gabby and Andi.

I would personally play N'Zogbia, but I think that is what we will go with.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: andrew08 on October 16, 2014, 05:08:39 PM
I predict I will have a great pre match few drinks with like minded people. Then I'll endure the first half hour at which point I'll join the queue for beer. Hopefully I will hear Benteke score or just about see it on a monitor. I'll then return about 5 mins into the 2nd half and watch Everton lay seige for another half hour or so through a forest of timber pylons meaning I'll only see half the goal and will have to rely on crowd reaction to find out if Guzan has saved or not.
With about 5-10 mins to go I will go for a slash ( even if not required ) after which I will pace around under the stand and hopefully hear Gabby score a breakaway 2nd.

Then it will be a happy trip home followed by a battle to stay awake to try and catch the goals I missed on MOTD.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Witton Warrior on October 16, 2014, 05:13:21 PM
I predict I will have a great pre match few drinks with like minded people. Then I'll endure the first half hour at which point I'll join the queue for beer. Hopefully I will hear Benteke score or just about see it on a monitor. I'll then return about 5 mins into the 2nd half and watch Everton lay seige for another half hour or so through a forest of timber pylons meaning I'll only see half the goal and will have to rely on crowd reaction to find out if Guzan has saved or not.
With about 5-10 mins to go I will go for a slash ( even if not required ) after which I will pace around under the stand and hopefully hear Gabby score a breakaway 2nd.

Then it will be a happy trip home followed by a battle to stay awake to try and catch the goals I missed on MOTD.

You've done this before haven't you?

Remember going to Goodison for FAC R3 in the 80's - fell asleep in the toilets as I was tired and emotional - came out to see us score only to discover we were 4 down already!
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: andrew08 on October 16, 2014, 05:23:47 PM

You've done this before haven't you?

Remember going to Goodison for FAC R3 in the 80's - fell asleep in the toilets as I was tired and emotional - came out to see us score only to discover we were 4 down already!

This is my routine most away games. I find it completely stressful, it's the style we play: gung-ho defending and breakaway goals. Or in truth the odd breakaway shot! Even when we win the actual game is totaly un enjoyable. It's all about the result.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: N'ZMAV on October 16, 2014, 05:33:38 PM
This will be a convincing Villa win.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chris Jameson on October 16, 2014, 05:39:52 PM
Evidently Ross Barkley could be playing which confused me as I get him confused with Jack Wilshere. Think it's because they are the two best midfielders in the world.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Gregorys Boy on October 16, 2014, 05:49:15 PM
They are a little more desparate for the win than us and I just have a feeling they will get it.  Will go 2-1 and Benteke to get ours.  A solid away point would suit me.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on October 16, 2014, 05:55:06 PM
This will be a convincing Villa win.
That's the spirit.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on October 16, 2014, 06:12:34 PM
Quote
Fabian Delph and Philippe Senderos have emerged as injury doubts for Villa's trip to Everton - but skipper Ron Vlaar is available.

Delph is struggling with a shoulder injury ahead of Saturday's trip to Goodison Park.

And Senderos missed Switzerland's Euro 2016 qualifier against San Marino on Tuesday with a thigh problem.

But there is positive news for Vlaar, who has recovered from the calf injury that kept him out of Villa's last four Barclays Premier League games.

In a further boost, manager Paul Lambert says Christian Benteke is also pushing for a start after making his return from the substitutes bench in the defeat to Manchester City earlier this month.

"There are one or two there who I need to wait and see about," said Lambert.

"At the minute, they are doubtful for Saturday.

"Fabian and Philippe are the doubts but on the plus side, Ron is back and Benteke is pushing to start, so they're two of the main ones.

"You're never sure what's going to happen when they go away but you've got to accept that they're going to go and try and get results for their country.

"But you do hope that they come back and everybody's fine."

Asked if Benteke could start against the Toffees, Lambert added: "He's in the squad. There's a good chance.

"He's trained really well and looking like his old self in the last week or so.

"He scored up here last week against Leicester in a friendly game so there is a chance. He'll be in the squad and I'll decide tomorrow."
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: supertom on October 16, 2014, 08:33:02 PM
Could be a good game to play a bit more of an attacking formation. Have TC/Richardsion and Westwood sit then play Gabby, Cole/Grealish and Zogbia behind Benteke. Their defence is shit and we need to attack them. Sitting back only plays into their hands.
I'd like to see us go 4-2-3-1.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ron Manager on October 16, 2014, 09:06:26 PM
Not really sure but a 2-1 result either way is likely. Bonus if Vlaar plays as it now looks as if he will. But will Okore be on the subs bench?
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on October 16, 2014, 09:11:00 PM
---------Guzan----------

Hutton vlaar baker Sissoko

-----------Westwood ------

Richardson ------Cleverley

Gabby ------Beast -- Weimann
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on October 16, 2014, 09:52:51 PM
Yeah I think I agree with that one. Maybe n'zogbia for Weimann
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on October 16, 2014, 10:09:54 PM
Comfortable away win.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: peter w on October 16, 2014, 10:38:38 PM
From them:

"...let’s put our hands together to welcome our illustrious opponents from down the M6 – Aston Villa – as they come to play the latest instalment of the most played English top flight game of all time. The bit there where I said “illustrious” what I really meant was “plaque covered teeth sloth speaking try too hard mega scruffs”. Just in case there was any lingering confusion.

For a club with so much wonderful history and success they are unfortunately burdened with their fans. It’s like meeting a boss bird, an easy nine out of ten, but she’s got prominent arse grapes hanging out of the back. They're just there and you constantly know it.

These crushingly dull bum berries of Birmingham could choose to watch the game and enjoy the experience of following their sound club but instead are covered absolutely filthy rotten from head to toe with cringe worthy behaviour. Or as the whoppers on social media like to call it now: banter.

Let’s get it right: banter is for geordies, Soccer AM fawning texans, deeply insecure but outwardly confident university students trying to hide their middle class upbringing in the student halls and lastly: degenerate gobshites.

This isn't banter that I'm typing now, this is me as an Evertonian, calling you, Villa fans, a maelstrom of dim witted fucktards, and appealing with every last bit of goodwill in my heart to reconsider your approach to following a football club. Sincerely, please just try.

No more of this MY LORD crap, or singing about fire drills when a load of baldy half-arsed-about-the-footie scouse dars go the bog or the bar before half time. No more dressing like meffs or your Farmfood quality tattoos. Absolute no more singing stuff about stuff. Dull stuff. Stop being the rancid anus of humanity, I implore you. We just want to watch the footie and guess what? You might even beat us. Sound that.

But you go back to Birmingham, and most of us get to remain in Liverpool and the various wool areas surrounding it. So ultimately we win. Exclamation mark omitted.

There’s a path for improvement there if you really want it and hopefully you’ll see the constructive criticism in these words is intended to provoke a moment of self realisation, and a subsequent amending of prior unacceptable ways. If you have internet or adult literacy in Birmingham yet anyway. It must crush you that your wools (West Brom, Stoke, Leicester etc) are on the whole far more easier to digest in company than yourselves. Come on now..."
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: fbriai on October 16, 2014, 10:43:55 PM
Obviously never been on H&V.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: supertom on October 16, 2014, 10:44:20 PM
Begrudgingly I hate to admit that, that is slightly brilliant.

"Let’s get it right: banter is for geordies, Soccer AM fawning texans, deeply insecure but outwardly confident university students trying to hide their middle class upbringing in the student halls and lastly: degenerate gobshites."

That said. I now hope we stuff Everton royally, even more than I did before reading that. The droll bastard.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Louzie0 on October 16, 2014, 10:45:21 PM
Trying hard.
It must be worse than we thought, living up there.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: supertom on October 16, 2014, 10:45:49 PM
In other news, the best team in the midlands is playing the second best team from Liverpool on saturday.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Vegas on October 16, 2014, 11:04:13 PM
From them:

"...let’s put our hands together to welcome our illustrious opponents from down the M6 – Aston Villa – as they come to play the latest instalment of the most played English top flight game of all time. The bit there where I said “illustrious” what I really meant was “plaque covered teeth sloth speaking try too hard mega scruffs”. Just in case there was any lingering confusion.

For a club with so much wonderful history and success they are unfortunately burdened with their fans. It’s like meeting a boss bird, an easy nine out of ten, but she’s got prominent arse grapes hanging out of the back. They're just there and you constantly know it.

These crushingly dull bum berries of Birmingham could choose to watch the game and enjoy the experience of following their sound club but instead are covered absolutely filthy rotten from head to toe with cringe worthy behaviour. Or as the whoppers on social media like to call it now: banter.

Let’s get it right: banter is for geordies, Soccer AM fawning texans, deeply insecure but outwardly confident university students trying to hide their middle class upbringing in the student halls and lastly: degenerate gobshites.

This isn't banter that I'm typing now, this is me as an Evertonian, calling you, Villa fans, a maelstrom of dim witted fucktards, and appealing with every last bit of goodwill in my heart to reconsider your approach to following a football club. Sincerely, please just try.

No more of this MY LORD crap, or singing about fire drills when a load of baldy half-arsed-about-the-footie scouse dars go the bog or the bar before half time. No more dressing like meffs or your Farmfood quality tattoos. Absolute no more singing stuff about stuff. Dull stuff. Stop being the rancid anus of humanity, I implore you. We just want to watch the footie and guess what? You might even beat us. Sound that.

But you go back to Birmingham, and most of us get to remain in Liverpool and the various wool areas surrounding it. So ultimately we win. Exclamation mark omitted.

There’s a path for improvement there if you really want it and hopefully you’ll see the constructive criticism in these words is intended to provoke a moment of self realisation, and a subsequent amending of prior unacceptable ways. If you have internet or adult literacy in Birmingham yet anyway. It must crush you that your wools (West Brom, Stoke, Leicester etc) are on the whole far more easier to digest in company than yourselves. Come on now..."


wordy, poor grammar
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: BoskoDjembaSalifou on October 16, 2014, 11:04:56 PM
I wonder how that person felt after that Ashley Young goal a few years ago ;D
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on October 16, 2014, 11:09:46 PM
One of the many things beyond my comprehension is why it is that we, on the whole, have a lot of respect for their club while they, on the whole, seem to hate us. Is it just because we're the one club who 'now our 'istory better than they do?
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on October 16, 2014, 11:15:24 PM
I like it when we have no real malice against a team but they absolutely hate us.

I did think Everton were better than a Scouse Coventry though. I suppose when you never, ever beat your proper rivals you have to try to instigate a new, phony, rivalry to make up for it.

Bless.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: peter w on October 16, 2014, 11:16:01 PM
Just proves we are who we are. We also seem to dislike Stoke but go on their sites and they have nothing but respect for us.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Vegas on October 16, 2014, 11:18:48 PM
maybe selective quoting?  You could look back over our threads and find lots of references to "whiny scousers", "2nd best club in Liverpool", "have to live in Liverpool", "quiet fans" etc.


 
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: peter w on October 16, 2014, 11:21:25 PM
Yes but generally you won't have too much ill written or said about Everton or their fans due to us being similar sized clubs. they, however, seem to really dislike us. Liverpool fans seem to respect and like us more and yet we hold them in higher contempt.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: adrenachrome on October 16, 2014, 11:33:50 PM
From them:

"...let’s put our hands together to welcome our illustrious opponents from down the M6 – Aston Villa – as they come to play the latest instalment of the most played English top flight game of all time. The bit there where I said “illustrious” what I really meant was “plaque covered teeth sloth speaking try too hard mega scruffs”. Just in case there was any lingering confusion.

For a club with so much wonderful history and success they are unfortunately burdened with their fans. It’s like meeting a boss bird, an easy nine out of ten, but she’s got prominent arse grapes hanging out of the back. They're just there and you constantly know it.

These crushingly dull bum berries of Birmingham could choose to watch the game and enjoy the experience of following their sound club but instead are covered absolutely filthy rotten from head to toe with cringe worthy behaviour. Or as the whoppers on social media like to call it now: banter.

Let’s get it right: banter is for geordies, Soccer AM fawning texans, deeply insecure but outwardly confident university students trying to hide their middle class upbringing in the student halls and lastly: degenerate gobshites.

This isn't banter that I'm typing now, this is me as an Evertonian, calling you, Villa fans, a maelstrom of dim witted fucktards, and appealing with every last bit of goodwill in my heart to reconsider your approach to following a football club. Sincerely, please just try.

No more of this MY LORD crap, or singing about fire drills when a load of baldy half-arsed-about-the-footie scouse dars go the bog or the bar before half time. No more dressing like meffs or your Farmfood quality tattoos. Absolute no more singing stuff about stuff. Dull stuff. Stop being the rancid anus of humanity, I implore you. We just want to watch the footie and guess what? You might even beat us. Sound that.

But you go back to Birmingham, and most of us get to remain in Liverpool and the various wool areas surrounding it. So ultimately we win. Exclamation mark omitted.

There’s a path for improvement there if you really want it and hopefully you’ll see the constructive criticism in these words is intended to provoke a moment of self realisation, and a subsequent amending of prior unacceptable ways. If you have internet or adult literacy in Birmingham yet anyway. It must crush you that your wools (West Brom, Stoke, Leicester etc) are on the whole far more easier to digest in company than yourselves. Come on now..."


wordy, poor grammar

Unmitigatedly prolix. Or something that sounds like prolix.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: OzVilla on October 16, 2014, 11:39:55 PM
 The author clearly has a complex which is quite funny. I respect them as a Club and recall a great atmosphere between the two sets of supporters after the epic last day 3-3 in 1990.   

Wat has to be said is that Everton also have the smallest collection of songs sung by fans ever. They only seem to sing 2 if they sing at all.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Goldie.7 on October 17, 2014, 12:38:37 AM
Lets hope Osman isn't in the squad, he always seems to have a blinder against us. I can see him and Naismith running things.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on October 17, 2014, 01:57:15 AM
The hatred Everton have for us is very funny. I've said before, I used Rivals for a while years ago and they genuinely hated us. Which just adds to the enjoyment of us rarely losing up there.

I found asking them "what's it like being the second club in the city as i've no idea how that feels" was a good icebreaker with them. Or ask them where they got their tracksuit bottoms from as Witton Lane hosts its annual "Trackie day" when we play them.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on October 17, 2014, 06:35:39 AM
After the scouse derby, this is their Cup Final. All quite humorous really.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: l_mckay on October 17, 2014, 08:57:46 AM
Take the game to them and can see us getting 3points. Benteke and Nzogbia to score. 2-0
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on October 17, 2014, 09:00:04 AM
maybe selective quoting?  You could look back over our threads and find lots of references to "whiny scousers", "2nd best club in Liverpool", "have to live in Liverpool", "quiet fans" etc.


 

All of those, apart from having to live in Liverpool, are true though. They're not indentured serfs, so they can live elsewhere if they so choose.

Their support is dismal. By the 60th minute tomorrow I will have heard all I can stand of the sheer level of moaning that comes from the Park End. It's a form of torture. They won't sing unless they're winning and even then only fleetingly give you a rendition of their one song. Their away support is equally as turgid. They're also obviously the second biggest team in their city and by a country mile too.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: not3bad on October 17, 2014, 09:46:26 AM
From them:

"...let’s put our hands together to welcome our illustrious opponents from down the M6 – Aston Villa – as they come to play the latest instalment of the most played English top flight game of all time. The bit there where I said “illustrious” what I really meant was “plaque covered teeth sloth speaking try too hard mega scruffs”. Just in case there was any lingering confusion.

For a club with so much wonderful history and success they are unfortunately burdened with their fans. It’s like meeting a boss bird, an easy nine out of ten, but she’s got prominent arse grapes hanging out of the back. They're just there and you constantly know it.

These crushingly dull bum berries of Birmingham could choose to watch the game and enjoy the experience of following their sound club but instead are covered absolutely filthy rotten from head to toe with cringe worthy behaviour. Or as the whoppers on social media like to call it now: banter.

Let’s get it right: banter is for geordies, Soccer AM fawning texans, deeply insecure but outwardly confident university students trying to hide their middle class upbringing in the student halls and lastly: degenerate gobshites.

This isn't banter that I'm typing now, this is me as an Evertonian, calling you, Villa fans, a maelstrom of dim witted fucktards, and appealing with every last bit of goodwill in my heart to reconsider your approach to following a football club. Sincerely, please just try.

No more of this MY LORD crap, or singing about fire drills when a load of baldy half-arsed-about-the-footie scouse dars go the bog or the bar before half time. No more dressing like meffs or your Farmfood quality tattoos. Absolute no more singing stuff about stuff. Dull stuff. Stop being the rancid anus of humanity, I implore you. We just want to watch the footie and guess what? You might even beat us. Sound that.

But you go back to Birmingham, and most of us get to remain in Liverpool and the various wool areas surrounding it. So ultimately we win. Exclamation mark omitted.

There’s a path for improvement there if you really want it and hopefully you’ll see the constructive criticism in these words is intended to provoke a moment of self realisation, and a subsequent amending of prior unacceptable ways. If you have internet or adult literacy in Birmingham yet anyway. It must crush you that your wools (West Brom, Stoke, Leicester etc) are on the whole far more easier to digest in company than yourselves. Come on now..."


wordy, poor grammar

Unmitigatedly prolix. Or something that sounds like prolix.

He probably needed a lie down after he had finished that.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: KevinGage on October 17, 2014, 11:04:06 AM
Funny (well not haha funny)  but most of that can be said about their lot too.

Good club, fine history, shite fans. 

Like us, they travel in big numbers away.  Unlike us, you barely hear a peep out of them.  And when you do, it's that same sad song.  Now that Leeds are gone, easily the most racist fans in the topflight.

He's right about My Lord though. Time to stop it, it's dire.   Was topical and reasonably amusing when McGrath went missing in 1994.  Was mildly amusing circa 2006/7, in a retro way. 

Now, I'd be quite happy for the bobbies to baton charge anyone caught singing it in our end.   
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on October 17, 2014, 11:11:57 AM
Speaking of the Old Bill and batons, I like the throw back pimp canes the senior plod sport up in Liverpool.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: supertom on October 17, 2014, 11:30:50 AM
Funny (well not haha funny)  but most of that can be said about their lot too.

Good club, fine history, shite fans. 

Like us, they travel in big numbers away.  Unlike us, you barely hear a peep out of them.  And when you do, it's that same sad song.  Now that Leeds are gone, easily the most racist fans in the topflight.

He's right about My Lord though. Time to stop it, it's dire.   Was topical and reasonably amusing when McGrath went missing in 1994.  Was mildly amusing circa 2006/7, in a retro way. 

Now, I'd be quite happy for the bobbies to baton charge anyone caught in our end singing it. 
Although just for the Everton game, and for that fan in particular, I hope all who attend in the away end sing it from the rooftops the entire game.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: CJ on October 17, 2014, 11:32:48 AM
Another throw back - whenever I've been to Everton I've noticed that the pavements around Goodison are covered in dog shit.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on October 17, 2014, 12:25:57 PM
Agree with OzVilla...this guy has clearly got a massive complex about The Villa - perhaps he was a nose or stripeyfilth in a previous existence? Or is just getting in a bit of practice for when he is re-incarnated as one?

I know they have a bit of a downer on us but a good mate is a fan and he seems to have a downer on every team they play...and pretty much everything in life...it's just the scouse way...but it's everybody else's fault! "'The Mighty Reds YNWA' are better than us because they're bastards...Villa are shit because we don't like them...Leeds are crap because they're from Yorkshire"...completely random, nonsensical "logic"!

I hope we hammer the twats!
UTV!
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on October 17, 2014, 12:29:05 PM
Evertheoptimist - we will win!

Concerned about the defence if Vlaar is out, Senderos is injured, and....?
If Baker continues his recent MoM form great, if not.....?

Okore will come in, play wonderfully and all the stats-fuelled pundits will explode the idea that he once breathed English air, therefore qualifies for Ingerlund and is the saviour of English football, replacing the role that Berahino was handed last week and Sterling the week before.

Sorry.
I've been to the pub.
It's 20 yards away...opposite my house.
Wouldn't you?

UTV!

Which pub you been in, FMWMU?
The Talbot, just up from the Abbey.
Good beer, Fladbury pork pies!
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on October 17, 2014, 01:21:08 PM
If he really wanted to know 'is 'istory that particular Bitter could make his way to the Everton Historical Society's piece about how Evertonians should pay due homage to the McGregor statue, because without him they would never have got into the league.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: tomd2103 on October 17, 2014, 01:22:55 PM
---------Guzan----------

Hutton vlaar baker Sissoko

-----------Westwood ------

Richardson ------Cleverley

Gabby ------Beast -- Weimann

Agree with that team.  Not sure if CB will be ready just yet and if he would be better coming off the bench though. 
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Tokyo Sexwhale on October 17, 2014, 02:23:38 PM
It's the most played fixture in English football you know.

lol

I think I probably post this every game, but until fairly recently all the stats were pretty even, too.
Games won and lost were within 1 game, and goals for and against were within 5 (?) which is pretty even after 170+ games
This may have changed, slightly, in the last couple of years, but, I'm sure someone would know the exact figures now.

Pretty damned close!

Head-to-head v Everton
    ASTON VILLA WINS   DRAWS   EVERTON WINS
League   72   53   73
FA Cup   4   1   4
League Cup   3   4   2
Total   79   58   79
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Pat McMahon on October 17, 2014, 02:38:34 PM
It's the most played fixture in English football you know.

lol

I think I probably post this every game, but until fairly recently all the stats were pretty even, too.
Games won and lost were within 1 game, and goals for and against were within 5 (?) which is pretty even after 170+ games
This may have changed, slightly, in the last couple of years, but, I'm sure someone would know the exact figures now.

Pretty damned close!

Head-to-head v Everton
    ASTON VILLA WINS   DRAWS   EVERTON WINS
League   72   53   73
FA Cup   4   1   4
League Cup   3   4   2
Total   79   58   79

Shame that on the Villa website they only quote the Premier league stats (we are ahead by the way)
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: AGRIPPA on October 17, 2014, 02:46:41 PM
From them:

"...let’s put our hands together to welcome our illustrious opponents from down the M6 – Aston Villa – as they come to play the latest instalment of the most played English top flight game of all time. The bit there where I said “illustrious” what I really meant was “plaque covered teeth sloth speaking try too hard mega scruffs”. Just in case there was any lingering confusion.

For a club with so much wonderful history and success they are unfortunately burdened with their fans. It’s like meeting a boss bird, an easy nine out of ten, but she’s got prominent arse grapes hanging out of the back. They're just there and you constantly know it.

These crushingly dull bum berries of Birmingham could choose to watch the game and enjoy the experience of following their sound club but instead are covered absolutely filthy rotten from head to toe with cringe worthy behaviour. Or as the whoppers on social media like to call it now: banter.

Let’s get it right: banter is for geordies, Soccer AM fawning texans, deeply insecure but outwardly confident university students trying to hide their middle class upbringing in the student halls and lastly: degenerate gobshites.

This isn't banter that I'm typing now, this is me as an Evertonian, calling you, Villa fans, a maelstrom of dim witted fucktards, and appealing with every last bit of goodwill in my heart to reconsider your approach to following a football club. Sincerely, please just try.

No more of this MY LORD crap, or singing about fire drills when a load of baldy half-arsed-about-the-footie scouse dars go the bog or the bar before half time. No more dressing like meffs or your Farmfood quality tattoos. Absolute no more singing stuff about stuff. Dull stuff. Stop being the rancid anus of humanity, I implore you. We just want to watch the footie and guess what? You might even beat us. Sound that.

But you go back to Birmingham, and most of us get to remain in Liverpool and the various wool areas surrounding it. So ultimately we win. Exclamation mark omitted.

There’s a path for improvement there if you really want it and hopefully you’ll see the constructive criticism in these words is intended to provoke a moment of self realisation, and a subsequent amending of prior unacceptable ways. If you have internet or adult literacy in Birmingham yet anyway. It must crush you that your wools (West Brom, Stoke, Leicester etc) are on the whole far more easier to digest in company than yourselves. Come on now..."


wordy, poor grammar

Unmitigatedly prolix. Or something that sounds like prolix.

He probably needed a lie down after he had finished that.
Probably was lying down… on the sick...
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Lizz on October 17, 2014, 05:47:13 PM
Gone for a draw.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: London Villan on October 17, 2014, 06:14:00 PM
Where does that hatred of us come from?

I'd more than happy with a draw tomorrow.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Weedy on October 17, 2014, 07:07:15 PM
Try reading that with Jamie Carragher's voice.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: peter w on October 17, 2014, 07:07:47 PM
Or ian Marshall's
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on October 17, 2014, 07:29:44 PM
Young's last-second winner (https://vimeo.com/104942648)
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on October 17, 2014, 07:33:11 PM
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Pete3206 on October 17, 2014, 07:56:37 PM
From them:

"...let’s put our hands together to welcome our illustrious opponents from down the M6 – Aston Villa – as they come to play the latest instalment of the most played English top flight game of all time. The bit there where I said “illustrious” what I really meant was “plaque covered teeth sloth speaking try too hard mega scruffs”. Just in case there was any lingering confusion.

For a club with so much wonderful history and success they are unfortunately burdened with their fans. It’s like meeting a boss bird, an easy nine out of ten, but she’s got prominent arse grapes hanging out of the back. They're just there and you constantly know it.

These crushingly dull bum berries of Birmingham could choose to watch the game and enjoy the experience of following their sound club but instead are covered absolutely filthy rotten from head to toe with cringe worthy behaviour. Or as the whoppers on social media like to call it now: banter.

Let’s get it right: banter is for geordies, Soccer AM fawning texans, deeply insecure but outwardly confident university students trying to hide their middle class upbringing in the student halls and lastly: degenerate gobshites.

This isn't banter that I'm typing now, this is me as an Evertonian, calling you, Villa fans, a maelstrom of dim witted fucktards, and appealing with every last bit of goodwill in my heart to reconsider your approach to following a football club. Sincerely, please just try.

No more of this MY LORD crap, or singing about fire drills when a load of baldy half-arsed-about-the-footie scouse dars go the bog or the bar before half time. No more dressing like meffs or your Farmfood quality tattoos. Absolute no more singing stuff about stuff. Dull stuff. Stop being the rancid anus of humanity, I implore you. We just want to watch the footie and guess what? You might even beat us. Sound that.

But you go back to Birmingham, and most of us get to remain in Liverpool and the various wool areas surrounding it. So ultimately we win. Exclamation mark omitted.

There’s a path for improvement there if you really want it and hopefully you’ll see the constructive criticism in these words is intended to provoke a moment of self realisation, and a subsequent amending of prior unacceptable ways. If you have internet or adult literacy in Birmingham yet anyway. It must crush you that your wools (West Brom, Stoke, Leicester etc) are on the whole far more easier to digest in company than yourselves. Come on now..."

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lh1sve2s9d1qg3ycwo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: peter w on October 17, 2014, 09:25:45 PM
Young's last-second winner (https://vimeo.com/104942648)

I still can't click on the link to that goal and watch it only once.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on October 17, 2014, 09:31:23 PM
Young's last-second winner (https://vimeo.com/104942648)

I still can't click on the link to that goal and watch it only once.

Same here.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Duncan Shaw on October 17, 2014, 11:18:57 PM
Young's last-second winner (https://vimeo.com/104942648)

I still can't click on the link to that goal and watch it only once.

Same here.
Glad you found it again!!
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on October 17, 2014, 11:23:49 PM
What are these "wools" and "wool areas" that he bangs on about?
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on October 17, 2014, 11:36:51 PM
Trying hard.
It must be worse than we thought, living up there.

It can't be worse than I think it is, sorry. Quite one of the shittest places on earth, populated in part, as they are the second biggest club in the city, by the whiniest fans going who suffer even more from a victim mentality than that equally obnoxious lot from just across the slum dwellings
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on October 17, 2014, 11:37:44 PM
I always think of Neville Southall when I think of Everton fans
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on October 17, 2014, 11:39:58 PM
What are these "wools" and "wool areas" that he bangs on about?

Liverpudlian vernacular, m'lud. It comes from the word 'woolyback' referring to the rural areas around large cities.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on October 17, 2014, 11:43:31 PM
Originally it was anyone from Lancashire or Cheshire but now the thick twats use it for anyone not from Liverpool.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Goldie.7 on October 17, 2014, 11:53:02 PM
Young's last-second winner (https://vimeo.com/104942648)

I still can't click on the link to that goal and watch it only once.

Same here.
Glad you found it again!!

Or here Never get bored of this ending (http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~2328999,00.html)
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on October 18, 2014, 12:07:38 AM
What are these "wools" and "wool areas" that he bangs on about?

Liverpudlian vernacular, m'lud. It comes from the word 'woolyback' referring to the rural areas around large cities.

I see. Ta.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on October 18, 2014, 12:37:58 AM
I think the hatred goes back to the 3 League Cup Final Replays.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Sexual Ealing on October 18, 2014, 01:05:57 AM
I was at Wembley the last time we won a trophy* yet I can't remember a time I took more pleasure from the exploits of Aston Villa than that Sunday afternoon in my bedroom, listening to the radio, when Ashley Young scored that goal.

*That's right, I'd rather watch the traffic on the north circular than the Peace Cup.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on October 18, 2014, 01:14:23 AM
I think the hatred goes back to the 3 League Cup Final Replays.

It's nothing to do with that; they just hate us for some unfathomable reason. It's even more weird than Coventry because they hated us while we didn't care one way or another about them. Everton hate us even though a lot of us have a good deal of respect for their club.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on October 18, 2014, 01:28:47 AM
Why didn't Barry take the penalty?
Where is Okore?
Why do Everton hate us?

Some things are just never meant to be answered.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: tim on October 18, 2014, 08:52:57 AM
Gone for a draw today - can't decide who will equalize though.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on October 18, 2014, 09:07:06 AM
Gone for a draw today - can't decide who will equalize though.

Edward Woodward
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Duncan Shaw on October 18, 2014, 10:07:48 AM
Gone for a draw today - can't decide who will equalize though.

Edward Woodward

What do you call a man with three heads........
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on October 18, 2014, 11:11:40 AM
We could really do with a win today.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ron Manager on October 18, 2014, 11:19:20 AM
We could really do with a win today.

Well yes we do. As far as I can see its up to Cleverley to move up a few gears and dominate the midfield or at least put through a few searching passes for Benteke/Agbonlahor/Weimann to run on to. Is he capable?. We shall see.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: robbo1874 on October 18, 2014, 11:36:00 AM
Everton 2 Villa 3 for some reason.....

Famous last words.

Come on you Lions!
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: manic-road on October 18, 2014, 12:15:37 PM
Everton 2 Villa 2
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on October 18, 2014, 02:10:40 PM
Alvarez in for Everton and the beast in for us

I've got quite a good feeling about this one

Which probably means we'll be a goal down in five minutes
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dave Cooper please on October 19, 2014, 08:24:53 AM
Gone for a draw today - can't decide who will equalize though.

Edward Woodward

What do you call a man with three heads........

Ed Ed Edward?

Or do you mean "What do you call a man with three planks on his head?"?
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