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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: PeterWithesShin on September 24, 2014, 12:47:16 PM
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1-1. Assuming we have 11 fit players.
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I fancy a draw too. A real bore of a game, which would suit me just fine.
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If we win by 5 goals we go above them. Too early in the season to say title 6 pointer?
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A table topping clash of the giants. 1-2. With Costa feeling quite poorly after being tackled by Hutton.
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It's yet another must win game, lose and we can forget about the title and prepare ourselves for a battle against relegation. Win and we can forget about the title and prepare ourselves for a battle against relegation and if we manage a draw we can forget about the title etc.
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Can't see us getting anything here hope I'm wrong but just can't see it 3-0 Chelsea.
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Think we'll get battered. Thought the best way to get a result leading up to this was to wind Costa up enough to get himself sent off, but so far he hasn't looked too bothered with such shenanigans.
I suppose they have looked a bit vulnerable defensively so far though, so things could get crazy.
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If they play Costa up front they'll win. If he's out, we'll take a point I reckon.
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Kick-off time? Is it on telly?
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Kick-off time? Is it on telly?
3pm mate, so no.
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My first game of the season so nailed on for a 2-0 loss. If we get a draw here I'd bloody love it, love it!
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I think we might get heavily beaten here, 3-0. Hopefully I'm wrong!
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Just hope we can play something like we did there last season...
and that the referee is not joint president of The John Terry Is Innocent Society, Elbowing Benteke is Fine Club and Chelsea Must Win At All Costs Campaign.
Not that I'm still bitter or anything.
Looking forward to the trip down and the feeling of elation as we make our way back home with 3 well-deserved points to take us top!
(I'd happily take a point now!)
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0-4
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1-1 I think we'll take a first half lead but get caught late in the 2nd half and then be backs to the wall playing for the point.
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Dreading the game 4-0 Chelsea and wheels well and truly off.
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Just hope we can play something like we did there last season...
and that the referee is not joint president of The John Terry Is Innocent Society, Elbowing Benteke is Fine Club and Chelsea Must Win At All Costs Campaign.
;D
We were robbed at Stamford Bridge last season but the same could be said for them at VP.
I'm not confident for this one.
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We will go to Chavski, have 1% possession, 1 shot (which will actually be a Guzan hoof), win 1-0 and The Whinging One will explode with indignation. If there is a God other than Paul McGrath, please make that happen.
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hoping for a point....or 3, but my head says none and these classless set of Tory Blue wearing lottery winning wankers will win the league...again.
UTV
The Doc
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We will go to Chavski, have 1% possession, 1 shot (which will actually be a Guzan hoof), win 1-0 and The Whinging One will explode with indignation. If there is a God other than Paul McGrath, please make that happen.
If there are any contested decisions he'll probably explode, remembering the last time Chelsea played Villa. Here's hoping!
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I hope Vlaar will be fit. If not it should be remembered that Okore created a big impression against Chelsea a few years ago and might do so again.
John Terry does not like Gabbys pace. If Gabby gets his finger out we may get an unexpected 2-2 draw.....but I expect that Chelsea will win
I dont expect to see Sanchez in the line up but do expect Benteke to be on the bench for a 20min run out.
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Kick-off time? Is it on telly?
3pm mate, so no.
Ta.
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Chelsea possess the three things I despise most in football - Terry, Moanhino, and their chavvy classless fans (although there should really be a place for Pardew in my top three). Think we'd give them a run for their Roubles if we had a full strength side, but with the virus still taking its toll and key players out I can't see anything but a win for them. 3-1
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Can't see us picking up anything here. 3-1 defeat
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my most hated club. and john terry plays for them horrible person.
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3-0 to them, boo
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I can't see past a loss. But thats ok. Chelsea are by a wide margin the best team in the league and we will be coming in off the back of the Villa lurgy.
Maybe Vlaar will be better? Will we see Okore play?
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I hope Vlaar will be fit. If not it should be remembered that Okore created a big impression against Chelsea a few years ago and might do so again.
It was a mere thirteen months ago. Don't wish your life away, kid.
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4-0.
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0-4
Wow, great optimism.
I'd expect Chelski to score at least once...
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By 5.30pm, we will have new reasons to be angry with Mourinho and Terry. But, hopefully because they are whining in interviews about our controversial penalty winner.
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Which Barry will take.
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definitely need someone to man mark Fabregas, maybe Delph in a new role to try and be disciplined.
Sanchez was miles off the pace last week, would like to see him taken out of the firing line. Dont see the point of leaving Okore out over Baker and Clark. If he is fit then he needs gametime.
Whatever side Lambert picks it looks a big ask for us to get anything from the game. Chelsea have too many aces for us to handle at the moment.
4-1 to the blues
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Knowing us we'll probably lead for 85 mins and lose 2-1. Or are we now a different animal ?
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Stamford Bridge is a ground of extremes for us, we either put in a great performance and get a result (should've last season but for a ridiculous ref) or we get battered.
Worry the floodgates will open if we concede an early goal, 4-1 Chelsea.
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We will win this 2-1.
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Can't see anything but a defeat. Hope I'm wrong
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Chelsea 5 Mellor, Caine, Coe, Lovejoy, Attenborough.
Aston Villa 5 Tambling(5 own goals)
Just remembered Attenboroughs`injured`, so it's a 5-4 win for us.
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4-0 them
He's still pissed we cost them the title.
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You'll all be pleased to know that the ref is Mr Dowd.
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If it wasn't for the illness I'd give us a fighting chance, but there is no way our team will be fully fit. 4-1.
And there's Dowd ...
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You'll all be pleased to know that the ref is Mr Dowd.
I was worried about this arse refereeing the match but then I thought 'we have Roy Keane'. His deathstare and inherent threat of violence might be the antidote we've needed.
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Pretty sure we'll lose. As will almost everyone who plays there
To be honest if we're going to have to go into another game with half the squad convalescing I don't mind it being this one as I'd rather that than do so against a team we'd expect to beat and fall flat against
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Yep, if we have to have a virus in the club its s good week to have one. let it be against these, a game we should lose as will most there. You never know of course, I expect a clear defeat, but a draw would be great.
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Also, if we were to spread the virus to the Chelsea squad I wouldn't be totally against it. We should get some of our sickest squad members to lick the surfaces in the tunnel area and if possible the home dressing room. I mean really go to town on it.
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On second thoughts Im going for a definate 2-2 with Benteke scoring two off the bench. Osgood and Mickey Droy for them.
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2-0, disappointing.
Boooo
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You'll all be pleased to know that the ref is Mr Dowd.
proper ******
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It's time Mr Dowd retired. His mate JT will be in his ear all feckin' game.
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It's time Mr Dowd retired. His mate JT will be in his ear all feckin' game.
I was talking to someone about this the other day. The retirement age for refs was 48 but it was abolished a while back. Dowd is 51 now and he's not getting any younger, thinner or better.
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I hope Vlaar will be fit. If not it should be remembered that Okore created a big impression against Chelsea a few years ago and might do so again.
John Terry does not like Gabbys pace. If Gabby gets his finger out we may get an unexpected 2-2 draw.....but I expect that Chelsea will win
I dont expect to see Sanchez in the line up but do expect Benteke to be on the bench for a 20min run out.
I'm going 2-2 aswell.
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We'll probably need to break Diego Costa's legs to get much out of this one. He'll be winding our defence up something rotten.
Can't see anything but a defeat here.
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Villa top the table for sickness and injury. Chelsea sickeningly healthy.
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-sickness-bug-leaves-7831481
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Villa top the table for sickness and injury. Chelsea sickeningly healthy.
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-sickness-bug-leaves-7831481
We are top of the league, said we are top of the league.
Over the last 4 years it's rare for us not to be top 4 in Physioroom.
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3 - 3. We win 18-17 on penalties.
Terry scoring all 6 goals and will probably celebrate all of them pointing to sky in tribute to Lampard. Then he misses the sudden death penalty.
This is not the FA Cup Final?
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Daresay Mr Dowd will use his vanishing spray to draw a love heart with an arrow pointing at John Terry in the wall.
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You'll all be pleased to know that the ref is Mr Dowd.
We should concede now and concentrate on the next game!
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Defeat
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Moanrinho must be ready to explode, after the spat with Pelegrini last weekend.
Hopefully we can contribute to a complete meltdown for the arrogant tosser. Oh the irony of him and the classless wankers complaining that Man City should be stripped of their titles because of FFP. He's losing his touch. The only other comeback he could come with after Peligrini had compared them to "a small club like Stoke that comes to park the bus" was to call him Peligrino.
Them 0 us at least 50. All dodgy penalties. Moanrinho to eat his own head in frustration.
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We're 14/1 to win .
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You'll all be pleased to know that the ref is Mr Dowd.
Where is the head in hands emotion when you need it?!
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Chelsea 5 Mellor, Caine, Coe, Lovejoy, Attenborough.
Aston Villa 5 Tambling(5 own goals)
Just remembered Attenboroughs`injured`, so it's a 5-4 win for us.
That was 48 years ago last Wednesday!
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We're 14/1 to win .
You sound like you're rejoicing.
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We're 14/1 to win .
You sound like you're rejoicing.
Not at all, quite staggered at those odds for a premier league match considering we won away at anfield last time on the road. Unlikely I know but well worth a few quid.
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I can't ever bring myself to predict us losing to this bunch of utter c***ts. And that's being generous about them. The most disgusting football club to grace Planet Earth in my view and I absolutely f*****g despise them. And that's being generous about them. 2-1 to the Villa and I won't tell you what else I might wish for as regards John Terry and that gobshite Mourinho as someone is bound to be offended
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I can't ever bring myself to predict us losing to this bunch of utter c***ts. And that's being generous about them. The most disgusting football club to grace Planet Earth in my view and I absolutely f*****g despise them. And that's being generous about them. 2-1 to the Villa and I won't tell you what else I might wish for as regards John Terry and that gobshite Mourinho as someone is bound to be offended
Come on - tell us what you really think ...
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There's absolutely nothing redeeming about chelsea. Nothing. Quite far and away my most despised club.
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If anything sums up Chavski it is John Terry and Dennis being club captains. Hideous club.
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There's absolutely nothing redeeming about chelsea. Nothing. Quite far and away my most despised club.
Agreed. Now that manure are getting their just desserts, chavski have assumed the mantle of my most despised club.
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In fairness, I think they do have 1 redeeming feature.
About the only thing the rest of the football fraternity can agree on is that they are one of the most loathsome clubs to ever exist in any sport, anywhere.
Anything that can unite football fans to such a degree must be worth something?
About £1 according to Ken Bates.
Oh bollocks, there's another thing on the seemingly never ending list of reasons to despise them.
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If Okore plays, can we have "(I Don't Want To Go to) Chelsea"?
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We're 14/1 to win .
You sound like you're rejoicing.
Not at all, quite staggered at those odds for a premier league match considering we won away at anfield last time on the road. Unlikely I know but well worth a few quid.
Arguably the most positive thing you have ever written on here. Has your body been invaded?
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I can't ever bring myself to predict us losing to this bunch of utter c***ts. And that's being generous about them. The most disgusting football club to grace Planet Earth in my view and I absolutely f*****g despise them. And that's being generous about them. 2-1 to the Villa and I won't tell you what else I might wish for as regards John Terry and that gobshite Mourinho as someone is bound to be offended
Come on - tell us what you really think ...
About those shits? I couldn't really do that as I'd get banned on here if I did
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We're 14/1 to win .
Out of interest, where did you get those odds? The highest I can find is 12/1.
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We're 14/1 to win .
Out of interest, where did you get those odds? The highest I can find is 12/1.
Bet 365
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15/1 now on bet365
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15 to 1 has to be worth a tickle. We're a different animal away from home. If we set up as we did at Anfield, then I can see us nicking a couple and winning two nil.
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16s now on Victor Chandler. If we played this game 17 times would we win one?
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16s now on Victor Chandler. If we played this game 17 times would we win one?
We'd win all 17. Fate is inexorable.
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Is vlaar likely to play ? Could be key .
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16/1 on bet victor! I obviously don't expect anything but I'm putting that bet on just in case
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No Vlaar according to PL on WM this morning. I think thats what he said anyway.
6/1 the draw. Money in the bank.
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No Vlaar according to PL on WM this morning. I think thats what he said anyway.
6/1 the draw. Money in the bank.
Are you mad?
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5-1 battering.
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Costa declared fit to play, sadly.
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Costa declared fit to play, sadly.
Was Mourinho sad when he declared it?
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Costa declared fit to play, sadly.
Was Mourinho sad when he declared it?
Gutted.
as in fish...if only!
UTV!
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i'll be listening to this one behind the settee, with the cuhions strapped to my head. not hopefully.
But if Gabby turns up you never know.
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No Vlaar according to PL on WM this morning. I think thats what he said anyway.
6/1 the draw. Money in the bank.
Lambert in today's Evening Mail has said that Vlaar has injured the same calf as before and will not be playing tomorrow. He did say it didn't need an op though and that he could be back for next week.
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5-1 battering.
33/1 shot
8-0 is 200/1
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The best price for a Chelsea win on Oddschecker is 1/4 and quite a few bookmakers are offering 1/5. Amazing.
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Jose Moaninho:
"Tomorrow I play with the team that is the best one. Everyone is working hard," says Mourinho. "Aston Villa are second, they have 10 points, it is a game between the leaders and the team second. That shows the difficulty of the game and that's the only thing I worry about.
err Jose....the Villa are 3rd..
shitting himself already :)
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The Doc
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Joe Cole is relishing coming up against former club Chelsea on Saturday - as he eyes a top result for his new team.
The Villa midfielder spent seven years in West London until 2010, winning eight major domestic trophies in the process and over 50 England caps.
No stranger to the big occasion, Cole returns to Stamford Bridge in opposition colours this weekend and will be reunited with former manager Jose Mourinho.
However, the Londoner remains unfazed and is determined to help Villa bounce back from their home defeat against Arsenal.
He said: "Once you're on the pitch, you're focused on your job.
"That's the great thing about being involved in football - there's no time to think about anything but what you're doing out there.
"You get completely involved in the game. It's a time when you're free from everything - you're free when you play football.
"I spent the majority of my career at Chelsea. The people there were great and the fans were great with me too.
"But you just have to focus on trying to get the right result.
"It was the same with Frank Lampard. He was there much longer than me and he came on against them for Man City and scored.
"You do your job and hopefully, if I'm involved in the game this weekend, I can make an impact like that and we can go from there and get a good result."
Since arriving this summer, Cole has worked under Paul Lambert and his assistant Roy Keane - both influential midfielders - on a daily basis.
The 32-year-old has nothing but admiration for the duo and believes their knowledge and wisdom is beneficial to the whole squad.
He added: "Roy Keane was a very tough player to play against. I played against him at West Ham as a young man and then at Chelsea when I was a bit older.
"He was a top player, one of the top midfielders of his generation and his knowledge is great for the younger lads, young midfielders and myself looking to earn a place in the midfield.
"I've got the gaffer who has played at the top level to learn from as well.
"For all of us midfielders, we can definitely all learn from them and their experiences."
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3-1 to The Loathesome Ones
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The best price for a Chelsea win on Oddschecker is 1/4 and quite a few bookmakers are offering 1/5. Amazing.
those prices seem about right I reckon especially with us missing Vlaar and Benteke
Chelsea will be that price to beat any of the bottom half sides this season
Gabby did well against Ivanovic on our left last season. Maybe try that with Weimann down the middle and Bacuna maybe on the right.
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Jose Moaninho:
"Tomorrow I play with the team that is the best one. Everyone is working hard," says Mourinho. "Aston Villa are second, they have 10 points, it is a game between the leaders and the team second. That shows the difficulty of the game and that's the only thing I worry about.
err Jose....the Villa are 3rd..
shitting himself already :)
UTV
The Doc
Yes Doc, but we all know that Southampton's position is a completely false one and they will be lucky to finish 20th.
Whereas WE are on our way to taking over the World! And good old Jose knows it too!
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I have the same feeling about this season that I did in 80/81
How did we get on that season?.?.?
Villa win all the way
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Paul Lambert is keen for Villa to adopt a pragmatic approach against Chelsea at Stamford Bridge.
Lambert believes his side were too cavalier in the 3-0 loss to Arsenal in B6.
Now he wants the claret and blues to be sensible and prudent when they face the league leaders.
He said: "We were too open against Arsenal.
"We have had a chat with the lads this week. We have given them our thoughts and they agreed that they were too eager.
"Sometimes that happens when you're playing well - you think you can go out there and take anybody on.
"Now you pick yourself up and start again.
"You've got to try and get a foothold in the game and not be out of it before you've started. If we can do that, then great.
"I'm not going to sit here and say we're going to go there and play free-flowing attacking football. You do that and I think you'll get beaten pretty heavily.
"But we'll try and do what we did in the four games before the Arsenal match and we'll try and get a result.
"What you try and do is get a foothold in the game, like we did at Anfield against Liverpool.
"Up there, you know they will come at you but you get a foothold in the game, get a goal and that gives you something to hold on to.
"We played good counter-attacking football. We have the players that can do that.
"We will get chances hopefully on Saturday and when we do, we have to take them."
Lambert was upbeat after watching his squad train following the elimination of a sickness bug that hampered the Gunners preparations.
He was also effervescent because of where his team are in the table - and the progress they have made so far this term.
Despite the weekend defeat, Lambert says Villa are in a strong position heading into tough encounters with Chelsea and Man City.
He continued: "If somebody had said 'I'll give you a point from Liverpool, Arsenal and Chelsea' I'd have taken that.
"We took three points from Liverpool so it breaks the ice.
"The result at Anfield gives you a free reign really, that's what people have got to remember.
"We'll go there with nothing to lose. Nobody expects anything from us going there but if we get chances hopefully we can take them."
Lambert is a firm admirer of Chelsea but he believes his side can cause an upset this weekend.
Asked whether the Stamford Bridge encounter is viewed as the toughest of the season, he added: "It's certainly up there, that's for sure.
"We are up against probably one of the best teams in Europe.
"That game - Chelsea at Man City - was fantastic. They were two really strong sides.
"I think they'll be round about it in the Champions League again, I think they'll go far in it. And I think they'll go far in winning this Barclays Premier League.
"They're a good side with good players and they are strong and powerful. You can pick three or four teams with the players they have.
"Last year we gave a good account of ourselves and nearly got something from it.
"We're in a run of games at the minute which is really tough for us because you're playing the big teams that expect to be there or thereabouts in the Barclays Premier League and even in Europe.
"It's tough but we've made a great start and we won't curtail what we're doing. We'll go to try and win."
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Just can not scoring us scoring,so I will go for 3-0 to Chelsea
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0-0 me thinks.
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We are gonna lose
Unless of coarse we don't
But I think we will
Lose that is
But you never know
Still think we'll lose though
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Featured match at 10am on NBC Sports Network in the US - so it'll be a Chelsea wankfest with the usual (tenuous) Manchester United references thrown in every 5-7 minutes.
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Hoping for a draw, but expecting 3-0 to them.
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2-1 to us. We have some unfinished business there.
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As long as we're not out of it 20 minutes in then we can be positive. 0-0 at half-time would be great. 0-0 at 70 mins and I'll be shi*8ing it. Anyway 4-0 them.
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2-1 to us. We have some unfinished business there.
40/1 on skybet if you're brave enough.
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2-1 to us. We have some unfinished business there.
40/1 on skybet if you're brave enough.
I am and have.
I don't why so many think we are going to get battered there. There's no guarantee of that and last week for me does not reflect at all how well we have played defensively. I might be being overly optimistic about winning, but they can be beaten, and they do slip up. We should have done them last season, and we did at home. We can get something from this game.
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2-1 to us. We have some unfinished business there.
40/1 on skybet if you're brave enough.
I am and have.
I don't why so many think we are going to get battered there. There's no guarantee of that and last week for me does not reflect at all how well we have played defensively. I might be being overly optimistic about winning, but they can be beaten, and they do slip up. We should have done them last season, and we did at home. We can get something from this game.
I've put a few quid on us to win at 16/1, like you said they can be beaten.
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Look at their starting 11 then look who occupy the bench seats, on paper they look like frightening- champions elect without a doubt.
We've however rattled Mourinho before, dig in and defend well and we can do it again.. The first 20mins are critical concede and we're fucked!!!
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2-0 Jonny come lately's but the plastics will have to battle hard for it.
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Just in Chelsea in incognito but with the colours actually. . .
(http://[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/tqR8rHel.jpg)[/img]
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Just in Chelsea in incognito but with the Colours. . . :)
(http://i.imgur.com/tqR8rHel.jpg)
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I think we will lose 2-1 due to a dodgy penalty.
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2-1 if we're lucky... can't see a win today at all, but a 'light' defeat would not be a disgrace.
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They will walk the league this year I reckon. Routine home win.
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How much did they spend in the summer ? Unfortunately I can only see defeat here without vlaar and benteke . Keeping the scoreline down is important for morale.
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How much did they spend in the summer ? Unfortunately I can only see defeat here without vlaar and benteke . Keeping the scoreline down is important for morale.
Net wise not much due to the charitable donation by PSG to buy that clown Luiz for 50m.
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We'll have our rumps de-bristled and handed back to us on a vulgar platter of ormolu and topaz.
5-0.
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Just in Chelsea in incognito but with the Colours. . . :)
(http://i.imgur.com/tqR8rHel.jpg)
That must be the Italian stylishness we hear so much about!
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Featured match at 10am on NBC Sports Network in the US - so it'll be a Chelsea wankfest with the usual (tenuous) Manchester United references thrown in every 5-7 minutes.
Edit: My mistake - it is the featured match that is being shown in movie theatres across the USA this week. (http://www.fathomevents.com/event/barclays-premier-league-1415)
It'll still be loaded with tenuous ManUre references.
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I'm sure we'll have plenty to say about the Chelsea manager and Phil Dowd (spit) around from around 5ish.
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To repeat the pre-Liverpool mantra, we expect to lose so let's have no "relegated by Christmas/worst team in all four divisions" outbursts if it happens.
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According to my scientifically accurate Fifa-15-predictometer, we're going to win this 12-0. Granted it was my first match on the game and I forgot to change the difficulty setting.
I probably wouldn't go rushing down to Ladbrokes and slapping money on that result though. Maybe a cheeky quid.
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Arrived in Earls court hotel. Making my way to ground shortly
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Westwood and Baker in for Sanchez and Clark