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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Chipsticks on September 15, 2014, 10:51:41 PM
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Can Lambert's Invincibles see off another challenger?
Our first 3 O'Clock KO of the season at home and it'd be nice to get another good result. This might be the first time in a long while I'll be expecting a result against one of the league's top teams.
1-1, Delph and Welbeck to score.
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A tad early.... but about time we beat these bar stewards.
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I thought Stoke match was 3.00 KO?
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I thought Stoke match was 3.00 KO?
Ah, I meant at Villa Park, my brain decided to not word it that way. Changed it now.
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When was the last time we played Arsenal at 3pm on a Saturday at VP? In some bizarre way I wonder if the normal kick off time will have a positive effect as we've won a few 3pm games at the Emirates in recent years.
Think this might be a game where we get a reality check, Arsenal will get chances on the counter attack and our defence could struggle in one v ones against likes of Alexis and Ramsey so 1-3 Arsenal.
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Sadly, we don't have a cat in hells chance on Saturday. We certainly wont get away with hanging on for grim death like we did at Liverpool, as Arsenal are a major bogey side at villa park and our way of playing will suit them.
Hope I'm wrong, but I can see arsenal beating us fairly convincingly.
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Sadly, we don't have a cat in hells chance on Saturday. We certainly wont get away with hanging on for grim death like we did at Liverpool, as Arsenal are a major bogey side at villa park and our way of playing will suit them.
Hope I'm wrong, but I can see arsenal beating us fairly convincingly.
The league table and our recent beating of Liverpool at Anfield would suggest otherwise. Or maybe you are playing the old reverse psychology card...
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1.1
Steve Foster for us
Steve Williama for them
Nicholas missed pen.
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If we can't fill the ground, with a Saturday 3pm kick off, 2nd in the league against Arsenal we never will.
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They're shit at defending set pieces so that will be our main opportunity i believe. If only the beast was playing.
Still going to go for 2-1 us. Senderos hatrick.
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To be honest, I've lost interest in games against the "SKY four" over recent seasons, but am looking forward to this one Saturday. We'll be going into it on a bit of a high and they're always capable of having the odd off day (though they very rarely seem to at Villa Park).
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0-0
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We'll blow them away inside half an hour.
4-1 Villa
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Think it's a good time to play them, they have a few injuries in defence. I'd be happy with a point but can't shake this weird feeling that I think I remember as...optimism?
I'll go with, 4-0, All Nathan Baker overhead kicks. Wenger to resign at half time.
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I'm going to say 2-0 Arsenal hope I'm wrong.
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They have a few injuries and have a CL game this week.
We go into this game with some confidence and a shout. 1-1
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0-3 them
We haven't beat these feckers at home since 1998 and before that 1992.
Draw would be ace.
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2-1 Villa win
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My first game of the season, unfortunately I can see it being our first defeat. I'd take a point right now.
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0-3 them
We haven't beat these feckers at home since 1998 and before that 1992.
Draw would be ace.
We did beat them twice at home in 1998 in the league at least!
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A win would be huge... Am not confident, but i just have a feeling that somehow we will do it this time... 2-0, spirited display and jubilation with a late second from Delph to settle things after nervously soaking up a lot of arsenal pressure second half.
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Villa 3 Arsenal 2
Bergkamp for them and Joachim and Dion for us.
We have a good chance here with them having a injuries in defence, according to media reports.
My initial thoughts were the wheels are going to come off for us in this match, but i've decided to jink it and go for a villa win.
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0-3 them
We haven't beat these feckers at home since 1998 and before that 1992.
Draw would be ace.
We did beat them twice at home in 1998 in the league at least!
Everyone who played that December night was all also English I believe, I think we tried the same thing again in the season and got hammered. That was the last time that's happened since.
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Dave should be doing these...
It would have been 2-0 to Villa but the karmic balance has now been somewhat shifted...
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I was thinking I'd take a draw to keep the momentum going.
But there are some positive signs about arsenal's form. They've only won one leage game - and relied on a last minute winner v Palace, though their other fixtures were quite tough. They've conceded two goals in each of their last three games too.
They've also got a tough champions league game away at Dortmund tonight, where they'll face a really high intensity side. And they've got big injury doubts at the back for that game and possibly for Saturday.
I'm not suggesting this will be easy at all. But I reckon our best chance is to take advantage of potential leggy players and a vulnerable underbelly and go for the jugular from the off like we did v hull and Liverpool
Same starting xi. Diamond in midfield with Richardson at the tip, exploiting their lack of defensive midfield.
I doubt we'd be able to play an hour of complete defence this week though. You've got to keep pressing the defence of arsenal
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When was the last time we played Arsenal at 3pm on a Saturday at VP? In some bizarre way I wonder if the normal kick off time will have a positive effect as we've won a few 3pm games at the Emirates in recent years.
Think this might be a game where we get a reality check, Arsenal will get chances on the counter attack and our defence could struggle in one v ones against likes of Alexis and Ramsey so 1-3 Arsenal.
I'm going to test my memory and say it was a 2:2 Savo gettingva brace and that wanker dixon getting a late equalizer. Sunny day too.
2:2 again. Gabby and Cleverly.
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Probably a loss but I would really like to beat Arsenal. More than any other top 4 club actually.
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When was the last time we played Arsenal at 3pm on a Saturday at VP? In some bizarre way I wonder if the normal kick off time will have a positive effect as we've won a few 3pm games at the Emirates in recent years.
Think this might be a game where we get a reality check, Arsenal will get chances on the counter attack and our defence could struggle in one v ones against likes of Alexis and Ramsey so 1-3 Arsenal.
I'm going to test my memory and say it was a 2:2 Savo gettingva brace and that wanker dixon getting a late equalizer. Sunny day too.
2:2 again. Gabby and Cleverly.
For half an hour in that arsenal game I really thought we were turning into a top class side. Despite some impressive seasons since then I've never really thought that since. We never really played the kind of football top sides do under JG or MON, even when we were in the top four
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0-3 them
We haven't beat these feckers at home since 1998 and before that 1992.
Draw would be ace.
We did beat them twice at home in 1998 in the league at least!
Everyone who played that December night was all also English I believe, I think we tried the same thing again in the season and got hammered. That was the last time that's happened since.
Also known as the 'Santa Claus off the Trinity Rd stand' game...
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3-2 win
Simmons, MacLoed, Cropley for us.
Armstrong and Keown for them.
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They defo have a soft underbelly however with Sanchez, Wellbeck and Ozil (on form) they could easily rip us a new one in the first 20 mins.
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Sadly, we don't have a cat in hells chance on Saturday.
Really?
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We actually played quite well against Arsenal at VP last season, in the second half IIRC. I thought we were unfortunate not to get a point. It was kind of the start of that little mini run that saw us play well against Liverpool then West Brom, before we just turned to utter dog shit for some reason.
If they play Ozil too, he's really struggling to make an impact. I think it's a good time to be playing their side with Ozil in because if you keep on him you basically turn Arsenal into a 10 man side. Defensively they're not fantastic either.
Play deep again and the onus is on Arsenal to break us down and they'll be susceptible on the counter. They tend to overplay a lot of the time, and particularly when they're up against a deep defence, they can often struggle to find that killer pass. We just need to be wary of them countering us, and Ramsey's runs from deep.
I think we'll take a point here, before coming unstuck against Chelski.
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We have a chance. Keane and Lambert will be giving special attention to their midfield. I expect Sanchez to play from the start and give special attention to his namesake. Our chances of success depend on Ozil not hitting form and Wilshire not getting forward too much. He may be a grade one tosser but that was a very good goal he scored on Saturday.
It is imperitive Agbonlahor keeps his form up to the standard he attained last Saturday and Delph gives them something to worry about.
Either 1-1 or 0-0.
I think even if Vlaar is fit Lambert will go with Baker/Senderos to begin with.
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Would love to get a point from this but Arsenal have the ability to tippy tappy through teams rather than relying on going over or around. Think we'll score but they'll score one more. 2-1 to them but another one of the horrible run of games out the way
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They can tippy-tappy all they want. right up until the time (two minutes in) when Hutton gets bored and takes out three of their midfielders with one tackle.
I've gone draw, but we can win this.
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If we can't fill the ground, with a Saturday 3pm kick off, 2nd in the league against Arsenal we never will.
Tickets look like they're selling well, shouldn't have so many of the glaring gaps seen in the last two home games.
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We actually played quite well against Arsenal at VP last season, in the second half IIRC. I thought we were unfortunate not to get a point.
We did, it was a stupid mistake straight after the goal that cost us. I'm sure it was Delph. One of many occasions where we conceded within a minute of conceding.
We can win this.
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6-0. Good warm up for the big title decider at Stamford Bridge.
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If we can't fill the ground, with a Saturday 3pm kick off, 2nd in the league against Arsenal we never will.
Tickets look like they're selling well, shouldn't have so many of the glaring gaps seen in the last two home games.
The issue we are going to have this season is that season ticket sales have clearly taken a massive drop.
I don't know how easy it is going to be persuading those who opted not to renew over the summer to attend matches on a "game by game" basis, but I suspect it won't be a trivial endeavour.
That's one for Mr Fox to sort out, and I hope it is right at the top of his list of stuff to do.
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How many season tickets did we sell in the end?
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If we can't fill the ground, with a Saturday 3pm kick off, 2nd in the league against Arsenal we never will.
Tickets look like they're selling well, shouldn't have so many of the glaring gaps seen in the last two home games.
The issue we are going to have this season is that season ticket sales have clearly taken a massive drop.
I don't know how easy it is going to be persuading those who opted not to renew over the summer to attend matches on a "game by game" basis, but I suspect it won't be a trivial endeavour.
That's one for Mr Fox to sort out, and I hope it is right at the top of his list of stuff to do.
Agree with you there, I think attendance will still be good when the bigger teams come to town, and all other games will fluctuate between 28-35K depending on how well the team have been playing in the few games beforehand.
On a side note, the club just put this on Facebook "Ticket sales have been strong this week for the Arsenal game on Saturday, with several areas of Villa Park already sold out".
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On a side note, the club just put this on Facebook "Ticket sales have been strong this week for the Arsenal game on Saturday, with several areas of Villa Park already sold out".
Proof once again that this is the only forum the club pay any attention to
*hoists h&v flag*
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On a side note, the club just put this on Facebook "Ticket sales have been strong this week for the Arsenal game on Saturday, with several areas of Villa Park already sold out".
Proof once again that this is the only forum the club pay any attention to
*hoists h&v flag*
We definitely need an H&V flag to drape off the upper Holte, maybe a giant orange dot?
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On a side note, the club just put this on Facebook "Ticket sales have been strong this week for the Arsenal game on Saturday, with several areas of Villa Park already sold out".
Proof once again that this is the only forum the club pay any attention to
*hoists h&v flag*
We definitely need an H&V flag to drape off the upper Holte, maybe a giant orange dot?
We'd never be able to agree on what would go on the flag.
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On a side note, the club just put this on Facebook "Ticket sales have been strong this week for the Arsenal game on Saturday, with several areas of Villa Park already sold out".
Proof once again that this is the only forum the club pay any attention to
*hoists h&v flag*
We definitely need an H&V flag to drape off the upper Holte, maybe a giant orange dot?
Great idea
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I sit in row three of the Upper Holte, so I would get the final say, being ex-manager and all.
Its a strange one with attendances. The home support has dropped off with a reduction in season ticket sales, but the away support has picked up.
Larger allocations at both Chelsea and Everton so far, without a spare seat going.
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I sit in row three of the Upper Holte, so I would get the final say, being ex-manager and all.
Its a strange one with attendances. The home support has dropped off with a reduction in season ticket sales, but the away support has picked up.
Larger allocations at both Chelsea and Everton so far, without a spare seat going.
I was chatting to one of the stewards pre-game at Anfield. He said that we hadn't taken up our full allocation for the game.
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Us 2 - 1 Them
Cleverley & Weimann for us. Wenger for them.
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When was the last time we played Arsenal at 3pm on a Saturday at VP? In some bizarre way I wonder if the normal kick off time will have a positive effect as we've won a few 3pm games at the Emirates in recent years.
Think this might be a game where we get a reality check, Arsenal will get chances on the counter attack and our defence could struggle in one v ones against likes of Alexis and Ramsey so 1-3 Arsenal.
I'm going to test my memory and say it was a 2:2 Savo gettingva brace and that wanker dixon getting a late equalizer. Sunny day too.
2:2 again. Gabby and Cleverly.
I reckon it was that game - way back on 7th September 1996 - we haven't played them at home on at Saturday at 3pm for 18 years, blimey!
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for what its worth my lads convinced we will win the league, he's only 6 but there you go
I think he's on his way to learning one of life's lessons early on
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We don't stand a chance, they've got Messi, Iniesta and Xavi in the shape of Wilshere, stop him and we might get away with a point.
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On a side note, the club just put this on Facebook "Ticket sales have been strong this week for the Arsenal game on Saturday, with several areas of Villa Park already sold out".
Proof once again that this is the only forum the club pay any attention to
*hoists h&v flag*
We definitely need an H&V flag to drape off the upper Holte, maybe a giant orange dot?
We'd never be able to agree on what would go on the flag.
Oh yes we would!
;-)
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Hopefully Wishire will be sitting in the centre circle tapping away on his laptop for about half an hour and then going on to the H&V site to see how the game is going!
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On a side note, the club just put this on Facebook "Ticket sales have been strong this week for the Arsenal game on Saturday, with several areas of Villa Park already sold out".
Proof once again that this is the only forum the club pay any attention to
*hoists h&v flag*
We definitely need an H&V flag to drape off the upper Holte, maybe a giant orange dot?
We'd never be able to agree on what would go on the flag.
We'd never get past what constitutes the correct colour of orange
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It would be really nice of Arsenal to bring back a couple of injuries from Dortmund ;-)
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I sit in row three of the Upper Holte, so I would get the final say, being ex-manager and all.
Its a strange one with attendances. The home support has dropped off with a reduction in season ticket sales, but the away support has picked up.
Larger allocations at both Chelsea and Everton so far, without a spare seat going.
I was chatting to one of the stewards pre-game at Anfield. He said that we hadn't taken up our full allocation for the game.
No, we never do up there it seems.
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On a side note, the club just put this on Facebook "Ticket sales have been strong this week for the Arsenal game on Saturday, with several areas of Villa Park already sold out".
Proof once again that this is the only forum the club pay any attention to
*hoists h&v flag*
We definitely need an H&V flag to drape off the upper Holte, maybe a giant orange dot?
We'd never be able to agree on what would go on the flag.
We'd never get past what constitutes the correct colour of orange
We should just put a load of shit puns on it.
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Without vlaar I think we will come unstuck, arsenal to win 2-0
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Sadly, we don't have a cat in hells chance on Saturday.
Really?
Its realistic. Don't get me wrong, its been a good start and the win at
Anfield was great, but we went there at a good time with players missing for them. Arsenal will simply have far too much quality for us and I expect us to be well beaten
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Sadly, we don't have a cat in hells chance on Saturday.
Really?
Its realistic. Don't get me wrong, its been a good start and the win at
Anfield was great, but we went there at a good time with players missing for them. Arsenal will simply have far too much quality for us and I expect us to be well beaten
Don't Arsenal currently only have 3 fit defenders?
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Feel buoyed by the fact that Arsenal have a game in Europe against Dortmund this week, hopefully they'll be knackered against us.
1-1.
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Sadly, we don't have a cat in hells chance on Saturday.
Really?
Its realistic. Don't get me wrong, its been a good start and the win at
Anfield was great, but we went there at a good time with players missing for them. Arsenal will simply have far too much quality for us and I expect us to be well beaten
Nobody is saying it won't be difficult, but by saying ant you did you are making out we are like a non league side playing Real Madrid.
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Hoping they pick up some injuries tonight.
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1 nil to the Villa, with a Chrissy Price type break away goal for Mr A.Hutton :)
UTV
the Doc
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Sadly, we don't have a cat in hells chance on Saturday.
Really?
Its realistic. Don't get me wrong, its been a good start and the win at
Anfield was great, but we went there at a good time with players missing for them. Arsenal will simply have far too much quality for us and I expect us to be well beaten
Nobody is saying it won't be difficult, but by saying ant you did you are making out we are like a non league side playing Real Madrid.
Didnt we also have 3 of our best players out ? Have a bit of faith man.
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I've predicted a defeat for us in every single game this season and given the way it's gone, I don't plan on changing that now !
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1-1 draw
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Lets just think .....win saturday ...... then following week top two meet ........who would have predicted that?
Anyone think there could be a surprise name on the subs bench?
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Lets just think .....win saturday ...... then following week top two meet ........who would have predicted that?
Anyone think there could be a surprise name on the subs bench?
Cilla Black?
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Lets just think .....win saturday ...... then following week top two meet ........who would have predicted that?
Anyone think there could be a surprise name on the subs bench?
Vladimir Kinder?
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Win it and we go top. Then, hope Man City beat Chelsea on Sunday so we stay top for at least a week. Then, league is suspended indefinitely due to war with Scotland.
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I have gone for the win. The players will go into it confident and Arsenal have a tough midweek CL game. Also, as a betting man I never have the confidence in Arsenal that I have in Man City, Chelsea or Man United to win potentially tricky away games.
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1-1, but I can't help but have a sneaky feeling we will lose 1-2.
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I suspect we'll lose 1-3.
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This is the one game where I fancied us to spring a surprise, Arsenal are not all they are cracked up to be. Having said that I'd be happy with a draw.
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We've had a excellent 4 games but I wouldn't put a penny on us winning any of the next 4.
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We've had a excellent 4 games but I wouldn't put a penny on us winning any of the next 4.
OK you wont bet on us. But would you bet against us ?
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We've had a excellent 4 games but I wouldn't put a penny on us winning any of the next 4.
Before Saturday, would you have put a penny on us winning any of the next 5?
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We've had a excellent 4 games but I wouldn't put a penny on us winning any of the next 4.
I will bet you £20 we do win one of those four, happy for money to go to charity. I'm the dexter of the soul drainers.
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We've had a excellent 4 games but I wouldn't put a penny on us winning any of the next 4.
OK you wont bet on us. But would you bet against us ?
Yes
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We've had a excellent 4 games but I wouldn't put a penny on us winning any of the next 4.
I will bet you £20 we do win one of those four, happy for money to go to charity. I'm the dexter of the soul drainers.
What is with you, every comment i've made lately you wanna bet me. You didn't get back to me about Gabby so......NO
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We've had a excellent 4 games but I wouldn't put a penny on us winning any of the next 4.
OK you wont bet on us. But would you bet against us ?
Yes
Correct. I had us to win on Sat 1-2, I break my fiver down into lots of outcomes.
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We've had a excellent 4 games but I wouldn't put a penny on us winning any of the next 4.
Before Saturday, would you have put a penny on us winning any of the next 5?
Yes, only for the fact we never lose all the so called hard games.
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We've had a excellent 4 games but I wouldn't put a penny on us winning any of the next 4.
Before Saturday, would you have put a penny on us winning any of the next 5?
Yes, only for the fact we never lose all the so called hard games.
Doesn't that count for the next four games, in that case?
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Goldie 7.
Purely testing how committed you are to our apparent failure. We can use paypal, don't worry. I'm assuming you are folding?
UTV
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Hang on a second goldie, you said.Gabby wouldn't score more than six, I bet you otherwise, and you were not forthcoming. He only needs five more. And you didn't stipulate cups. Lol
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We've had a excellent 4 games but I wouldn't put a penny on us winning any of the next 4.
Before Saturday, would you have put a penny on us winning any of the next 5?
Yes, only for the fact we never lose all the so called hard games.
Doesn't that count for the next four games, in that case?
I had money on us to win on Sat so no.
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Hang on a second goldie, you said.Gabby wouldn't score more than six, I bet you otherwise, and you were not forthcoming. He only needs five more. And you didn't stipulate cups. Lol
Wrong.
I'm predicting now Gabby will score 6 goals or less this season.
I will take that bet. He will score more than 6. A £20?
A fiver will do me?
League goals only it's up to you. 5 more sounds easy right?
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Arsenal are pretty gutless. Both full backs are pretty shite, Gibbs for me sums up the typical average English player in the league. Centre halves are scared stiff of pushing up, keeper is very ordinary and the trio of Flamini, Arteta and Wilshere look like they are running in treacle. Still though up top even at their worst tonight Wellbeck should have at scored at least two goals. They have two of the best attacking players in world football, Ozil (albeit in poor form) and Sanchez. Ramsey hasnt got going yet this season but is a fine midfielder. I expect the Ox to come back into their starting side at the weekend and Podolski also. Both were decent when they came on this evening. Wenger for me lost it tactically a long time ago and you can see it since in the soft centre running right through his side. How they could do with a Nigel De Jong type hacker in midfield.
Think our midfield three should have enough legs for their lot. High scoring I suspect, I'll go with 2-2. Think we will have plenty of chances and with Benteke hopefully an option for last 15mins we should have a real scoring threat.
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A solid performance and a draw before the Chelski-pain would be excellent - clean sheet for us.
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A solid performance and a draw before the Chelski-pain would be excellent - clean sheet for us.
Why pain?
We should have got at least a point there last season and we beat them at home.
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Looking at their team last night, they didn't have any defensive midfielders in there which might be where the game can be won if we play with the four we did against Liverpool.
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We've had a excellent 4 games but I wouldn't put a penny on us winning any of the next 4.
Before Saturday, would you have put a penny on us winning any of the next 5?
Yes, only for the fact we never lose all the so called hard games.
Doesn't that count for the next four games, in that case?
I had money on us to win on Sat so no.
You must have changed your mind from the pre-match thread then.
3-1 them
Why always him x2
Sterling
Weimann for us
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pwnd.
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Is that the new Scottish currency?
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A dull 0-0 and a point closer to safety will do me fine. Also, as someone else posted it will keep us in decent form for the Chelsea game. Should be a good test of Arsenal's new found steel?
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Do we know if that cheating tw*t Wilshere is going to be fit to play in this match?
He refereed the game last season.
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We've had a excellent 4 games but I wouldn't put a penny on us winning any of the next 4.
Before Saturday, would you have put a penny on us winning any of the next 5?
Yes, only for the fact we never lose all the so called hard games.
Doesn't that count for the next four games, in that case?
I had money on us to win on Sat so no.
You must have changed your mind from the pre-match thread then.
3-1 them
Why always him x2
Sterling
Weimann for us
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I'm hoping their young lad Bellerin plays. He had a nightmare against Dortmund. Got absolutely roasted all game. They're struggling at RB with Debuchy out. Even if Wenger opts for Chambers instead, I think he can be targeted, so I'd be tempted to shift Gabby out to the left and put Andi through the middle.
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Had it been the end of last season, I could understand the feeling that we have no chance here. I think we all felt to a greater or lesser extent that we could almost have lost to anyone in any of the four leagues. And my local team, Sidlesham. But it seems strange to hold to that point of view now. This will be a very tough game, not least because we are at home, which is an equally strange thing to say of course, but we have confidence and they have not got into their stride. Arsenal, normally, are one of those teams who seem to have runs of games where they are simply unplayable or right off the pace and you wouldn't say they are the former so far this season
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Beware of the wounded animal. Wellbeck for a brace, easy Arsenal win, much moaning about Baker and the start of a bit of a tough run.
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I think our new found confidence will enjoy feasting on the wounded animal. We will nullify Wilshere much like we did with Gerrard, and really run at their defence that is creaking and cracking.
2-0 Gabby and a late Weimann goal to finish matters.
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Wilshere is touch and go for Saturday after getting a knock last night against Dortmund
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Wilshere is touch and go for Saturday after getting a knock last night against Dortmund
Not sure if good or bad news.
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Beware of the wounded animal. Wellbeck for a brace, easy Arsenal win, much moaning about Baker and the start of a bit of a tough run.
We're not the standard of Dortmund who really should have put 4 or 5 past them. Even so, Arsenal didn't look that great at all. Perform to the same level and intensity as we did at Liverpool and we'll win it.
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We've had a excellent 4 games but I wouldn't put a penny on us winning any of the next 4.
Before Saturday, would you have put a penny on us winning any of the next 5?
Yes, only for the fact we never lose all the so called hard games.
Doesn't that count for the next four games, in that case?
I had money on us to win on Sat so no.
You must have changed your mind from the pre-match thread then.
3-1 them
Why always him x2
Sterling
Weimann for us
#rekt
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We're not the standard of Dortmund
Nor are Arsenal!
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Villa to win 2-1. Gabby 2.
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The game last night vs Dortmund revealed how soft Arsenal are. We need to get into them like we did vs Liverpool, frustrate and break them down.
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The game last night vs Dortmund revealed how soft Arsenal are. We need to get into them like we did vs Liverpool, frustrate and break them down.
Strange as the last two seasons they had showed a tougher side. During their run on top last year they were starting to win more ugly. Guess they are still finding their feet this season. If Famini plays he could make a big difference. My fear is that it is only the other big boys who tend to out power them now. Still no OG is a plus for us.
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Arsenal are weak in midfield - no real dominant enforcer type. We should be able to bully and out muscle them.
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Tough game
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We've had a excellent 4 games but I wouldn't put a penny on us winning any of the next 4.
Before Saturday, would you have put a penny on us winning any of the next 5?
Yes, only for the fact we never lose all the so called hard games.
Doesn't that count for the next four games, in that case?
I had money on us to win on Sat so no.
You must have changed your mind from the pre-match thread then.
3-1 them
Why always him x2
Sterling
Weimann for us
Don't try to catch me out
(http://i62.tinypic.com/34ifdzr.jpg)
Make note my first prediction was what I said. I had a extra few quid in my pocket so I added a few more.
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http://arsenal-mania.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=324469
Gooners not confident.
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We've had a excellent 4 games but I wouldn't put a penny on us winning any of the next 4.
Before Saturday, would you have put a penny on us winning any of the next 5?
Yes, only for the fact we never lose all the so called hard games.
Doesn't that count for the next four games, in that case?
I had money on us to win on Sat so no.
You must have changed your mind from the pre-match thread then.
3-1 them
Why always him x2
Sterling
Weimann for us
(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQnUQQkXwWl6O6zMe3ksi6K0rmVqAV3daPqaddx3yZo8_6TToXTclEox3cK)
(http://tattletailzz.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/bill-cosby-annoyed-shaking-head-smh-gif.gif)
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We've had a excellent 4 games but I wouldn't put a penny on us winning any of the next 4.
Before Saturday, would you have put a penny on us winning any of the next 5?
Yes, only for the fact we never lose all the so called hard games.
Doesn't that count for the next four games, in that case?
I had money on us to win on Sat so no.
You must have changed your mind from the pre-match thread then.
3-1 them
Why always him x2
Sterling
Weimann for us
Don't try to catch me out
(http://i62.tinypic.com/2vv3q7a.jpg)
Make note my first prediction was what I said. I had a extra few quid in my pocket so I added a few more.
Playing devil's advocate, but a bet slip means nothing.
I could go and get one tomorrow morning and write "Villa 1-0 £1,000,000,000" on one and then post it here ;-)
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You're funny this is the printed one with date and barcode ; )
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You're funny this is the printed one with date and barcode ; )
Where ? Not seeing that
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You're funny this is the printed one with date and barcode ; )
Where ? Not seeing that
Happy now.
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If we really are serious about winning the title then we should be beating mid-table teams like Arsenal. As it is...0-3.
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We've had a excellent 4 games but I wouldn't put a penny on us winning any of the next 4.
Before Saturday, would you have put a penny on us winning any of the next 5?
Yes, only for the fact we never lose all the so called hard games.
Doesn't that count for the next four games, in that case?
I had money on us to win on Sat so no.
You must have changed your mind from the pre-match thread then.
3-1 them
Why always him x2
Sterling
Weimann for us
(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQnUQQkXwWl6O6zMe3ksi6K0rmVqAV3daPqaddx3yZo8_6TToXTclEox3cK)
(http://tattletailzz.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/bill-cosby-annoyed-shaking-head-smh-gif.gif)
Is the head shaking because none of your bets were right?
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You win some, you lose some. I get a better feeling from Villa winning than any small bet result.
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You're funny this is the printed one with date and barcode ; )
Where ? Not seeing that
Happy now.
Why have you scrubbed the amounts off?
Amount punted on us to lose: £1000
Amount punted on us to win: £0.25
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You're funny this is the printed one with date and barcode ; )
Where ? Not seeing that
Happy now.
Why have you scrubbed the amounts off?
Amount punted on us to lose: £1000
Amount punted on us to win: £0.25
Maybe, you'll never know haha.
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http://arsenal-mania.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=324469
Gooners not confident.
"This is a nightmare game, probably one of the worst we could have had apart from a top 4 team.
Unless we sort it out, Villa are gonna absolutely ruin us on the counter, we cannot deal with their style of play. They'll just sit deep and leather it to Agbonlahor and Weimann and let them run at Arteta and Per, lessons from last night have to be learnt."
I find it really interesting reading other fan's opinions of us.
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http://arsenal-mania.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=324469
Gooners not confident.
"This is a nightmare game, probably one of the worst we could have had apart from a top 4 team.
Unless we sort it out, Villa are gonna absolutely ruin us on the counter, we cannot deal with their style of play. They'll just sit deep and leather it to Agbonlahor and Weimann and let them run at Arteta and Per, lessons from last night have to be learnt."
I find it really interesting reading other fan's opinions of us.
Bunch of Tarquins should look at the league table!
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You're funny this is the printed one with date and barcode ; )
Where ? Not seeing that
Happy now.
Why have you scrubbed the amounts off?
Amount punted on us to lose: £1000
Amount punted on us to win: £0.25
Maybe, you'll never know haha.
I think most of us have a good idea, hehe.
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http://arsenal-mania.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=324469
Gooners not confident.
"This is a nightmare game, probably one of the worst we could have had apart from a top 4 team.
Unless we sort it out, Villa are gonna absolutely ruin us on the counter, we cannot deal with their style of play. They'll just sit deep and leather it to Agbonlahor and Weimann and let them run at Arteta and Per, lessons from last night have to be learnt."
I find it really interesting reading other fan's opinions of us.
On the contrary, I think we could have some real joy really pressing them quite high up the field and trying to attack them from there.
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Looking at the ticket doobry on the OS, it's going to be 40,000+
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http://arsenal-mania.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=324469
Gooners not confident.
"This is a nightmare game, probably one of the worst we could have had apart from a top 4 team.
Unless we sort it out, Villa are gonna absolutely ruin us on the counter, we cannot deal with their style of play. They'll just sit deep and leather it to Agbonlahor and Weimann and let them run at Arteta and Per, lessons from last night have to be learnt."
I find it really interesting reading other fan's opinions of us.
Bunch of Tarquins should look at the league table!
I thought most of the views put across were very respectful of us and measured. Not nearly so much of the usual arrogant, patronising crap you see on, for example, bindippers' or Newcastle fans' fora. Arsenal do have a bunch of tarquin supporters but their old school ones have always been ok in my opinion and respectful of Villa's place at the top table in the pantheon of the history of football!
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What does Fabregas the King think?
I think that was my favourite post-match comments.
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What does Fabregas the King think?
I think that was my favourite post-match comments.
Was that the thread with the Arsenal fan who came on here to complain about Villa fans cheering a serious injury to one of their players when we beat them at the library? Wasn't he a doctor, it turned out?
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Something close to that.
The good doctor was about to clap Villa fans until he realised that the song was taking the Micky out of Eduardo, which was a little naughty. He seemed to put the guy breaking his leg on the same sort of pedestal as Hillsborough though and went to shake his fists at Villa fans after the game "brushing with hooliganism". It was a funny read.
Typical Fever Pitch Arsenal Tarquin. They have more Tarquins than Chelsea, it's just their gentrification has been less obvious.
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We sung a song about a serious injury to one of their players in a previous game. I thought it was in poor taste.
However, the outrage of Fabregas the King was so hilarious that he made me want to sing it every week!
He actually thought we should have points deducted for it!
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Oh yes, that was a top thread, one of the best ever on here, thanks for filling in the gaps in my failing memory!
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Oh yes, that was a top thread, one of the best ever on here, thanks for filling in the gaps in my failing memory!
It was quite amusing to see his faux moral outrage go to silent when he realised people had found out his work email address.
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Arsenal are weak in midfield - no real dominant enforcer type. We should be able to bully and out muscle them.
It remains to be seen if we have that sort of player either to be fair. Arsenal are very strong in midfield and like us tend to relax more away from home, so getting to grips with them in that area could be a big step in us getting something.
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We sung a song about a serious injury to one of their players in a previous game. I thought it was in poor taste.
However, the outrage of Fabregas the King was so hilarious that he made me want to sing it every week!
He actually thought we should have points deducted for it!
The best bit was when he posted a photo of himself being "outraged" and it was suggested he could be reported to the relevant authorities as a known hooligan - poor taste chant but get a grip
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Was that the same one who had his own blog? I'm sure he was a doctor too. I had great fun on his blog.
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Visiting the other half's folks this weekend, they live between Wolvo and Brum. Want to go to the game but it seems only Dudley zoo is on offer.
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Seeing as how we seem to have stepped into a parallel universe, players, manager, CEO getting signed up and 2nd in the league, can we please have theme from an unmade silent movie to trot out to on Saturday?
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I think we might nick it 1-0, the Arse have most of their full backs out injured.
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Looks like Baker will be starting, can he pull off two good performances in a row? I'm not confident about this game at all.
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An entertaining 1-1. I'd be as happy as Larry with that.
UTV!!
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Visiting the other half's folks this weekend, they live between Wolvo and Brum. Want to go to the game but it seems only Dudley zoo is on offer.
Chance to see Wolves play then.
Anything from this game will make me smile. Anything to see the MOTD team sat trying to think of nice things to say about the Villa, when inside they are worrying that they all tipped us for relegation,
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Bollocks to taking a draw. I want a win and top spot on Saturday night. And if Chelsea get turned over by Man Citeh we would go there as league leaders.
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3-0, Hutton hat-trick.
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1-0 Hutton hat-trick
Hutton 3 mins.........Welbeck 25 mins and Wilshire 78
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Hutton is a shape-shifting mutant?
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1-1 for me, sanchez for them and weimann for us
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I tweeted this yesterday. Good old Lawro contradicting himself over the course of four short paragraphs
https://twitter.com/born2bemild2000/status/512679887522373632 (https://twitter.com/born2bemild2000/status/512679887522373632)
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I tweeted this yesterday. Good old Lawro contradicting himself over the course of four short paragraphs
https://twitter.com/born2bemild2000/status/512679887522373632 (https://twitter.com/born2bemild2000/status/512679887522373632)
;D
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1-0 Hutton hat-trick
Hutton 3 mins.........Welbeck 25 mins and Wilshire 78
My head hurts.
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1-0 Hutton hat-trick
Hutton 3 mins.........Welbeck 25 mins and Wilshire 78
My head hurts.
We'll win the game nil nil you watch.
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1-0 Hutton hat-trick
Hutton 3 mins.........Welbeck 25 mins and Wilshire 78
My head hurts.
We'll win the game nil nil you watch.
Calm down Alex you're not our manager anymore ;)
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from the Beeb, Arsenal team news.
Arsenal expect to have Calum Chambers (tonsillitis) and Mathieu Flamini (groin) available at Villa Park. Jack Wilshere should shake off an ankle knock, but defender Nacho Monreal (back) remains out.
Mathieu Debuchy is sidelined by an ankle ligament injury, Yaya Sanogo (hamstring) is still not match fit, while winger Theo Walcott (knee) Serge Gnabry (knee) and Olivier Giroud (fractured foot) remain out.
they still have decent players to fill the void of those that are out.
UTV
The Doc
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Shame that Wilshere is back, we should kick the little fecker so that he can't cheat Arsenal to victory.
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Shame that Wilshere is back, we should kick the little fecker so that he can't cheat Arsenal to victory.
agreed, is there a more overrated player in the Premier League ?
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Shame that Wilshere is back, we should kick the little fecker so that he can't cheat Arsenal to victory.
hutton will do that. Or ally.
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Fuck off Arsenal.
We won the league, we won the league, at Highbury, at Highbury.....
Deserves to be remembered
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You get Gabby to do to Wilshere as he handled Gerrard. Any time he is on the ball close him down immediately and never give him a moment to do anything with it.
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Getting very close to a sell out. Around 42,000 if we expect the Arse to fill the away end.
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Would love Gabby to tear 'em apart at least 5 or 6 times tomorrow...they couldn't get close to him at their place last season without fouling him...
same again please Gab!
Can we bring Luna back for the one on ones?
;-)
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need our forwards and midfield to press them high up the park like Dortmund did. That will mean a no to Nzogbia starting and Weimann will probably last only 70 mins. Would like to see Grealish being given a start.
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Arse are a bunch of pussies, were gunner win.
why not try Baker up front, he knows how to do damage in the box.
our midfield can handle theirs, so its a win for me.
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Vlaar likely to miss the game - he's not reliable with yet another calf injury. I'd be nervous in his shoes with only 9 months to go on his current contract. What happens if he gets a serious injury? With less than a year to run, surely you'd want the security of a 3 or 4 deal when you're approaching 30?
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Villa website predicting 40,000 crowd tomorrow - bring it on!
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Vlaar likely to miss the game - he's not reliable with yet another calf injury. I'd be nervous in his shoes with only 9 months to go on his current contract. What happens if he gets a serious injury? With less than a year to run, surely you'd want the security of a 3 or 4 deal when you're approaching 30?
Fully expected Ron to break down during the WC - the fact that he didn't I put down to his not needing to stretch and strain quite as much as he did when covering for Baker/Clark/Lowton/Luna/Bacuna/Bennett and having better players around him to help take the strain.
Disappointed that with the defence looking so much more solid this season, and having better players around him, that he has got injured as early as he has.
I reckon we'll be without him for at least 2/3 more games...Lambert's "doubtful" comment can be interpreted in its widest sense.
Bugger!
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Villa website predicting 40,000 crowd tomorrow - bring it on!
The return of the fickle ones!
;-)
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Can't see many goals in this game,so i will go for a hard fought 1-1
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I'm actually looking forward to going tomorrow.
Bloody hell, whats going on?
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http://www.arsenal.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=546304
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They'll probably line-up with
----------Szczesny
Chambers - Per - Kos - Gibbs
----- Ramsey - Flamini
Wilshere-----Cazorla - Sanchez
------------Welbeck
Difficult match this.
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They'll probably line-up with
----------Szczesny
Chambers - Per - Kos - Gibbs
----- Ramsey - Flamini
Wilshere-----Cazorla - Sanchez
------------Welbeck
Difficult match this.
is Wlishere fit then?
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Arteta... Captain. Still makes me smile.
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They'll probably line-up with
----------Szczesny
Chambers - Per - Kos - Gibbs
----- Ramsey - Flamini
Wilshere-----Cazorla - Sanchez
------------Welbeck
Difficult match this.
is Wlishere fit then?
He's fine according to Wenger.
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They'll probably line-up with
----------Szczesny
Chambers - Per - Kos - Gibbs
----- Ramsey - Flamini
Wilshere-----Cazorla - Sanchez
------------Welbeck
Difficult match this.
is Wlishere fit then?
He's fine according to Wenger.
Ack. Well happy for him he is not injured obviously, but we could have done with him being out. He tends to play well against us.
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If we can't fill the ground, with a Saturday 3pm kick off, 2nd in the league against Arsenal we never will.
I don't think we'll fill the ground, but I disagree with you by predicting that we will again at some point in the future.
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I reckon it will be as good as full
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1-0 Hutton hat-trick
Hutton 3 mins.........Welbeck 25 mins and Wilshire 78
My head hurts.
Hutton scores after 3 mins and then takes account of those two at those times .....simples
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Woke up this morning feeling fine,
Got something special on my mind.
Last night I dreamed we're top of the league,
Something tells me we're in for something good.
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I have a spare ticket for todays game. It is in L9 (corner of The Holte and the Trinity). It is a £33 ticket but I will take the first reasonable offer.
Message me if you are interested.
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They'll probably line-up with
----------Szczesny
Chambers - Per - Kos - Gibbs
----- Ramsey - Flamini
Wilshere-----Cazorla - Sanchez
------------Welbeck
Difficult match this.
is Wlishere fit then?
I think so. I'm not sure he's going to play right wing though!
I wonder if they'll play arteta and flamini as they've looked vulnerable there
There's almost too much good atmosphere about villa today tho! I prefer it when there are no expectations
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Good luck today lads. Got to try and find a bar showing this later on Costa del Sol.
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Good luck today lads. Got to try and find a bar showing this later on Costa del Sol.
I'm sure there's no chance of that ::)
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Don't know what the weather is like in Birmingham but it is raining heavily in Staffs. Quite a few unforced errors today I think. Pretty Boy Wilshire may not like the rain. His stick on tattoos may wash off. Cleverley and Delph come from the north so they wil be used to it.
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Drizzly rain now and expected to last till 1.00 then dry from 2 till 6. Pitch will be perfect for slick passing teams......
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Drizzly rain now and expected to last till 1.00 then dry from 2 till 6. Pitch will be perfect for slick passing teams......
er...aren't Arsenal a slick passing team?.
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Don't think a bit of drizzle will make much difference to the drenching they give the pitch anyway...
Arse, like Liverpool, are a slick passing team, and struggle to convert the slick passing into good scoring chances...unlike AVFC who are not especially slick but are very efficient with their attempts on goal this season...long may it continue!
UTV!
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Its stopped raining over here I'm on my way!
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Yes Arse are and we could be in for a spanking if they react in the wrong way(for us) from the mid week criticism.
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I fear for us today, I think we may get a backlash from Arsenal.
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As i'm not going, we'll win.
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As i'm not going, we'll win.
Can you back this up with any Leeg-style statistics?
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I'll take a draw now. A win and the football since 1992 establishment may just implode.
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I have a horrible feeling that Welbeck and Ozil will have blinders for them today, hope I'm wrong. It would be amazing to win.
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2-2.
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As i'm not going, we'll win.
We won't be there either so same applies (last season we missed Man City, Chelsea and Baggies).
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Theres definitely something different about our players mentality this season. 2-0 to our Villa boys.
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As i'm not going, we'll win.
Can you back this up with any Leeg-style statistics?
We won the Hull game and I missed that. I was at Orient and Newcastle.
On the flip side I've been to Stoke twice since they got promoted and those were our only wins there.
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As i'm not going, we'll win.
Can you back this up with any Leeg-style statistics?
We won the Hull game and I missed that. I was at Orient and Newcastle.
On the flip side I've been to Stoke twice since they got promoted and those were our only wins there.
So it's perfectly clear what you must do; never darken VP's doors again, and we wish you well on your countrywide travels.
For the greater good.
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Clark in for Baker, Wilshere on the bench, Ozil playing
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Randy's in town.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/aston-villa/11110729/Randy-Lerner-at-Villa-Park-for-Aston-Villa-clash-with-Arsenal-his-first-home-game-in-nearly-two-years.html
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Did I miss something? No Baker? Injured I presume?
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Teams lads?