Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: PeterWithesShin on September 13, 2014, 04:42:10 PM
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Guzan, Hutton, Baker, Senderos, Cissokho, Westwood, Delph, Cleverley, Richardson, Agbonlahor [c], Weimann.
Subs: Okore, Bacuna, Bent, Sanchez, N’Zogbia, Given, Grealish.
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I'd have been tempted to give Sanchez a game in front of the weakened back four. Perhaps he'll come on after we've taken the lead ...
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Racist FC: Mignolet, Manquillo, Moreno, Lovren, Sakho, Gerrard, Henderson, Coutinho, Markovic, Lallana, Balotelli
Subs: Jones, Enrique, Lucas, Toure, Sterling, Lambert, Borini
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First time in years we have a bench with options on it.
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Happy that Sterling is on the bench.
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Not at all confident now without Vlaar and Baker in. I think he'll struggle against their pace and movement. We really need Okore match fit ASAP. Still, at leaf we have a few more options this season. Let's hope we give a decent account of ourselves.
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With that Liverpool team I'd have had a reasonable degree of confidence with vlaar in.
But baker against the movement of their front four . . .
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A lot of new players for Liverpool, including Lallana & Balotelli. Hope that helps us.
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We've got no chance now Vlaars out and Bakers in
No chance I tells ya no chance
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Lot of tricky forward players they have, think we'll need to score a couple today to take a point.
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Pity that Okore wasn't ready yet.
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Balotteli against Baker, ah. whats up with Clark ?
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Happy that Sterling is on the bench.
Rodgers wants to rest him, and thinks this will be an easy game
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Right, off to the pub to watch this, got my Rotterdam 82 shirt on. I shall endeavour not to smack one of their lot in the gob. Enjoy everyone!
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I would imagine Baker is in to physically batter Balotelli.
It might work, but probably will not.
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Pity that Okore wasn't ready yet.
More that he played twice while on international duty so probably a bit much to start. That said nice to have him as an option when Bamby starts slipping and falling all over the place.
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Just hope they have the Chump League on their mind.
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Baker...fucking hell.
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Who will get booked first, Baker or Delph ?
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No vlaar , no Okore AGAIN !!!
Heavy defeat here.
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I would of thought this was the perfect game for Okore. He played in the week. His pace against Balotelli could be crucial ........
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I like Rogers he just called us the Villa.
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Villa winning today is the last bit of my Yankee to come up.... Do me proud gentlemen !!!!
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Happy that Sterling is on the bench.
Rodgers wants to rest him, and thinks this will be an easy game
No way will he think it's an easy game. Lambert has never lost at Anfield.
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Happy that Sterling is on the bench.
Rodgers wants to rest him, and thinks this will be an easy game
No way will he think it's an easy game. Lambert has never lost at Anfield.
He thinks Liverpool will piss all over Villa today, make no mistake
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I predict a 1-0 win with Nathan Baker scoring a goal for Villa :)
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Win today and we'd be second. Which is nice.
Especially as the Bitters are bottom. Which is also nice.
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Baker ahead of Clark is a bit of a mystery to me.
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Baker. Great.
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Baker ahead of Clark is a bit of a mystery to me.
Baker ahead of the ball boy is a mystery to me
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I just played Song of a baker by the Small Faces.
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Baker ahead of Clark is a bit of a mystery to me.
Maybe he's excpecting a particularly physical game from Ricky and Ballet
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Should we have a sweepstake to predict how long it takes Baker to lunge through someone by the touchline and get booked
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I have put a tenner on Balotelli to get a straight red in the first half for trying to light one of the ref's farts.
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Baker's a worry but hopefully he'll have a good game. He's certainly got to perform when he gets the chance or he'll be gone next summer probably. I still don't get why Lambo seems to rate him over Clark.
I think we've got enough quality in our CM to cause Gerrard and Henderson problems and hopefully we can stifle the service to the attacking players.
Frustrating crazy Mario might be a good idea too. Nath can take a few sly lumps out of him. If we wind the gremlin up we might just get him to do something silly.
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I have put a tenner on Balotelli to get a straight red in the first half for trying to light one of the ref's farts.
Ludicrous.
It's a yellow at best.
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I fancy our pace up against Sakho shitto today.
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First time in years we have a bench with options on it.
Massive improvement on recent times.
I would have assumed though if Okore could be on the bench he could have started in place of Baker.
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Our kit is sexy.
2-0 Villa.
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Good work by Hutton
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Good to see Hutton getting forward.
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If we keep a clean sheet with Baker in i will be amazed !
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Good bit of play from Hutton.
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Hutton doesn't half bomb forward
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Promising start.
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Good start from the Villa.
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Commentator on Talkshite talking about passes being "feathered through" - what the f**k is he talking about?!
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Hutton's return from the dead is some story. He's turned us all into fans and believers.
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Too much room on their right
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Where was Baker going there?
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Liking the all white kit
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The Kit does look good.
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Where exactly was baker for that markovic chance? He seemed to be running back from about ten yards ahead of the rest of the back four
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Ball huts
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Where was Baker going there?
Caught out of position for that chance they just had. Not a bad start overall though.
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Gabby
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GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAL
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Well done Gab
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Gabby you beauty!!!!
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YYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSS GET IN GABBY
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GOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
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Get in
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Yesssss! Gabby!
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Have I said many times over how much I love Gabby?
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We're playing some good stuff but when we play an aimless one we do miss benteke
Gabby needs to keep running down their left hand side. Sakho and Moreno are giving us a chance
Get in gabster!
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We look majestic in all white.
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Thank you Gabby.
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Get in Gabby!!!
I've lost my bet already as I had Delphy down for first goal, but hey ho.
Fully deserved. Keep pushing forward lads.
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We look majestic in all white.
We look majestic the way we have started as well.
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Anybody else notice Baker taking 3 defenders with him with his deep run at corners.
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We're gonna win the league, we're gonna win the league.
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Gab looks lively and full of confidence, such a different player like this.
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Dirty bastard
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Could - should - have been 2
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Anfield is quiet, oh wait I can hear the Villa fans singing.
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Should have been 2!
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Big Phil should have hit the target there. Good freekick.
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Oh should have scored, great ball on, picked him out nicely
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Big Phil has to score there
He's causing them all sorts of problems from set pieces
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Swiss phil you don't miss those lad
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Senderos has the heading ability of Ehiogu in the opposition box
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Confident first 15
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More importantly than the score. We're winning the possession stats!
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Set pieces have been good.
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First game I've seen this season. Very very impressed.
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Need to get a second here. We're well on top
Westwood delivery great
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I have been watching Liverpool Villa games for years. Senderos and Weimann missing those chances means that we will not win. Such a shame.
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Stupid Andi
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One great chance for Senderos and one decent one for Weimann off set pieces after the goal.
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Weimann and Cleverley look like twins from the spectator's/ camera's distance.
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What the fuck was Senderos thinking then?
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Senderos lucky not to be spotted by ref or linesman
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I like our new found discipline
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I like our new found discipline
Good timing! Senderos red card offence there
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I like our new found discipline
Doh!
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I hope we continue to keep it on the deck this much when benteke is back
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Sat way too deep now
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Diving twat
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Lallana should have been off
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Could Senderos be banned on video evidence? Those upcoming fixtures with Vlaar and him out...
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Should have booked him for diving there.
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Could Senderos be banned on video evidence? Those upcoming fixtures with Vlaar and him out...
What happened? Watching on and off.
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Lallana should have been off
As should Swiss phil
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Looked like he kicked out. Didn't look that bad but only saw a glimpse of it.
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Senderock has been told to try and wind up Mario it would seem.
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Could Senderos be banned on video evidence? Those upcoming fixtures with Vlaar and him out...
What happened? Watching on and off.
He kicked Balotelli for no reason off the ball. Twice, the telly now shows.
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Could Senderos be banned on video evidence? Those upcoming fixtures with Vlaar and him out...
What happened? Watching on and off.
He kicked Balotelli for no reason off the ball. Twice, the telly now shows.
Ta, just caught a replay of the one occasion.
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Lallana should have been off
As should Swiss phil
Indeed. Needs to be careful - wind Balotelli up by all means but don't cross the line and get sent off
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They will score if we just let them have the ball all the time.
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Sat way too deep
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I like our new found discipline
Doh!
Not really. As opposed to being pushed about and treated like bitches we now have some steel to us. Yes it was stupid from Senderos but he's just sending little message. So far Liverpool have not found a way through. We just need to avoid dropping deeper and deeper because for all our discipline the doors will come down if we give them too much of the ball as we are right now.
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Sitting to deep, I don't understand standing off.
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Gabby's not offering an out ball at all at the moment
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Could Senderos be banned on video evidence? Those upcoming fixtures with Vlaar and him out...
What happened? Watching on and off.
He kicked Balotelli for no reason off the ball. Twice, the telly now shows.
Trip rather than kick for the second one?
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We're not even counter attacking
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I appreciate Liverpool won't hurt us by passing it around on the halfway line, but we are sitting way too deep.
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I like our new found discipline
Doh!
Not really. As opposed to being pushed about and treated like bitches we now have some steel to is. Yes it was stupid from Senderos but he's just sending little message. So far Liverpool have not found a way through. We just need to avoid dropping deeper and deeper because for all our discipline the doors will come down if we give them too much of the ball as we are right now.
Only joking! Actually agree with you. Was the thing of your comment thats all.
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We inviting trouble just sitting back
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We need to get much more on the front foot. Keep our shape but much more on the front foot.
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That's the Alan Hutton we know and love.
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Nicely worked
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How I miss a Bannan corner
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We're playing in triangles again!
Not seen that acne the season before last
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For those watching, how has TC23 played thus far?
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We continue to look really dangerous at corners.
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Cleverley has been ok. Not given it away yet. But not on the ball as much as the other two
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Agree that we've retreated too deep after a really bright start.
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:P
For those watching, how has TC23 played thus far?
Doing ok in middle
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Cleverley has been ok. Not given it away yet. But not on the ball as much as the other two
okay, thanks Matt.
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Swiss Phil to attacking header training. That's Mr Senderos to the 'head the ball in their net from set pieces' room.
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I understand the reasoning behind trying to get Balotelli wound up but I can't say I agree with it. The longer he goes without scoring he'll wind himself up.
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Always thought balottelli played better when wound up
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I understand the reasoning behind trying to get Balotelli wound up but I can't say I agree with it. The longer he goes without scoring he'll wind himself up.
Yes. But hopefully he will headbutt somebody and get sent off first. Gotta love canny Keane tactics.
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Superb defending by Baker
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How I miss a Bannan corner
You must be standing on Spaghetti Junction hoping to catch a free match ball. Watch out for rusty Nissans and their dodgy drivers.
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Great block by Baker. I worry for us though if we concede. Far too much on the back foot that last 20 mins.
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Quality, HT 1-0.
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Well done Baker
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Superb defending by Baker
Who among us ever thought they would read those 4 words? True, too.
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Baker did really well at the end there. Good to get to HT with the lead in tact, and regardless of the final outcome we've showed we can play much better than we have done in the last couple of seasons.
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A worry about Gabby? If he went off i'd be tempted to stick Jack on and play Andi up front.
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Superb defending by Baker
Who among us ever thought they would read those 4 words? True, too.
Credit where it is due. He's looked composed and that last tackle was outstanding. Fair play to him. Good solid first half.
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Good first half. Very well drilled. We've fully deserved our lead, and Big Phil probably should have had a couple more too. We've restricted them to a couple of speculative long range efforts and frustrated them.
Hopefully we keep it up.
Kudos to Baker as well. He's been excellent today.
Solid debut thus far from Cleverley.
Gabby has been on good form today. He's a real pest for the opposition when he plays like this.
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Hats off to baker there. That's his forte.
Some suggestion gabby is limping. If he needs to come off I'd go bold and go grealish for gabby, Weimann up top. Grealish keeps the ball well.
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Bakers top class
I've always said that
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50 quid has just hoved into view....
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First 20 was excellent passing and movement. Last 25, great defending and we kept our shape. Cant do that for the rest of the game though.
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Great first 20, we've backed off since but we look solid so far. For all of Sky's fawning, Guzan hasn't made a save yet.
Come on Villa!!
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Looked solid at the back and threatening up front. I'd prefer us to hold a higher line but it's working so far. Good stuff. Hutton's rehabilitation is a miracle.
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Jamie Redknapp can only talk about the wheel removers' failings, not Villa's brilliance. Boohooing about Sterling and Sturridge.
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Made me laugh from Betfair's twitter:
@Betfair: HT at Anfield with Villa leading Liverpool by a single goal. Tom Cleverley has made the step up from Man Utd look seamless.
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I fear the second half could be like the Alamo
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I fear the second half could be like the Alamo
I'm sure there is a joke involving Sanchez in there.
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Think we'll see Sterling on soon - be nice to get another one before then
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Nothing from Sky at half time about Karate Phil. Daresay MOTD will milk it if their darling Scousers fail to win, though.
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Sitting too deep already
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No way will we keep a clean sheet if we spend the half sitting this deep.
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We seem leggy, flat footed
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Not sure I want to watch second half! If we can hold out to 60, then get Charlie and Grealish on to run them down the sides maybe?
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We simply have to push out hold the ball and counter
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Get out villa
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Got to question what our plan is here, look solid at the back, but why invite the pressure?
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We are getting battered now. Push up ffs.
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It's like we're waiting for them to score. We've got to get hold of the ball a bit more.
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Worrying that they are getting attempts at goal. Lucky for us they are off target so far.
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If they made football matches 900 minutes long, we'd still try and hang on to a one-nil lead from 5 minutes in.
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Not getting any of the ball at all. This will end badly.
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This is a joke. It's inevitable
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Why do we do it? Been doing it for years.
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We need a change here. Nobody is wanting the ball.
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Clearly been told to go from 433 to 451. Hopefully, only to avoid conceding before 60 mins, then open up again.
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It's a very flat atmosphere
Sterling would lift it for them
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Might have to consider a change of formation here as we're starting to struggle a bit.
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Time wasting at 54 minutes. This is going to end badly.
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It's a big ask to hold out like this
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Made me laugh from Betfair's twitter:
@Betfair: HT at Anfield with Villa leading Liverpool by a single goal. Tom Cleverley has made the step up from Man Utd look seamless.
That's ace! Nicking that.
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Get the ball and hold onto it, you eejits. Either that or get some new legs onto the pitch.
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Great stop brad
Gabby is offering nothing now. I think we should fetch him and perhaps Richardson off. Richardson is doing a good job covering tho and I'm not sure if grealish would
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Sterling is indeed coming on. Fascinated by the total commentary bias towards Liverpool having to win.
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Sterling coming on here
We need to liven up here. We've started looking very panicky on the ball
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Really sloppy passing now. That was a good chance for a break
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Sanchez for Cleverley would make sense if we merely plan to cling on.
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25% possession. Now, I know that stats arenot everything but we need more possession.
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Sanchez for Cleverley would make sense if we merely plan to cling on.
sanchez for Richardson if we just want to hang on
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Hutton 'doing' another winger.
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Thought he was going then
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Sanchez for Cleverley would make sense if we merely plan to cling on.
I'd rather see Jack and Zog for Weimman and Richardson, give us some threat on the counter at least.
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If they score soon they'll get another won't they?
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Somewhere BFR is applauding that reducer.
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We are playing with no brain, no brain whatsoever.
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I'd bring Sanchez on for Gabby or Weimann; go 4-5-1 but push the line up the pitch.
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Get hold of the ball please villa.
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Time wasting at 54 minutes. This is going to end badly.
We were time wasting after 25.
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Hutton was always going to try and "slow down" Sterling.
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Thought he was going then
Thought it was somewhat similar to the one on Delph during the England game in midweek. Got the ball but only after clearing the player out first.
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I'd start running the bath for Alan
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Let the sterling spunkfest begin
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Aimlessly cleared every time
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Like schoolboy football.
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Dirty Ricky coming on
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Almost 70 minutes gone and I can't recall Guzan having a save to make.
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Delph, Cleverley and Richardson have not been mentioned in the commentrary for several minutes - says it all about how we're clearing the ball.
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Lambert AND Borini coming on. Brendan is shitting himself.
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I had no idea that Cissokho was such a good crosser of the ball. Seen him play some really beauties in so far this season. Bodes well for when Kozak & Benteke are back.
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Aly knows how to put in a proper cross
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Lambert AND Borini coming on. Brendan is shitting himself.
So am I
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Lambert AND Borini coming on. Brendan is shitting himself.
So am I
Me too.
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Stand firm in the air now villa.
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Shame Mario is off, I was enjoying watching him look totally uninterested.
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Charlie for Andi. Will make no difference whatsoever.
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24% of the ball according to the BBC , i amazed we have have had that much listening to the radio
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Can't really see that change helping us
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NZog coming for Weimann ... not sure about that.
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N'Zogbia on. Victory assured.
*lights cigar, leans back, puts feet up on table*
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Only just got net access. Was Gaby's goal good? Realise it was in the sense it was a goal for us.
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I'd have rather seen Jack on
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N'Zogbia on. Victory assured.
*lights cigar, leans back, puts feet up on table*
I admire your cool, sir
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Only just got net access. Was Gaby's goal good? Realise it was in the sense it was a goal for us.
Scrambled it in
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Stupid place to give away a free kick
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Gabby's bit exactly helping us out here. He's not moving for the ball
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2-0 soon
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At what stage in his career did Delph decide to get pretty damn good on his right foot? He didn't use to be
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At what stage in his career did Delph decide to get pretty damn good on his right foot? He didn't use to be
Probably when Keane told him to.
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Well this is working so far.
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Gabby's bit exactly helping us out here. He's not moving for the ball
Predictive text leading you to sound like one his many lady friends?!
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FFS will we ever retain possession from a throw in
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Gabby is offering nothing at the moment. Mind you Cleverly is in that too. Sanchez for Cleverley would be a decent move.
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I'm going to be controversial here.
Even if we do win this 1-0, it won't have been worth it. Is it any wonder we're not selling season tickets when we play like this. It's the ultimate in anti-football.
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Too slow Gab....in the mind
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yikes
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Gabby looks injured. Sanchez and Bent for TC and Gabs would be good.
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I'm going to be controversial here.
Even if we do win this 1-0, it won't have been worth it. Is it any wonder we're not selling season tickets when we play like this. It's the ultimate in anti-football.
I see your point. These matches are agony.
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I'm going to be controversial here.
Even if we do win this 1-0, it won't have been worth it. Is it any wonder we're not selling season tickets when we play like this. It's the ultimate in anti-football.
Your joking aren't you? We're 1 up at a team which nearly won the league last season. They are a better team than us in all departments.
If we win 1-0 I'm going to enjoy every bit of it.
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Tedious.
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We're not even looking for team mates now. Just hoofing it up the pitch.
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What a fucking defence we have.
(Hopes I don't speak too soon)
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Just passing it back to them over and over
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I'm going to be controversial here.
Even if we do win this 1-0, it won't have been worth it. Is it any wonder we're not selling season tickets when we play like this. It's the ultimate in anti-football.
Your joking aren't you? We're 1 up at a team which nearly won the league last season. They are a better team than us in all departments.
If we win 1-0 I'm going to enjoy every bit of it.
Hear bloody hear. If were playing like this against Sunderland at home I may express concern.
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I can almost feel that 50 quid...
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Here comes rocky
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The Rock for TC. Gissa job (see above)!
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Need to get Jack on to run the corners.
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5 at the back now by the look of it.
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What a fucking defence we have.
(Hopes I don't speak too soon)
This is the single biggest difference compared to the last couple of seasons ... and it should develop a more positive approach to holding and using the ball if we can continue to keep clean sheets / minimise golas-conceded.
Over time, this will enable Benteke and Grealish to flourish.
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I'm going to be controversial here.
Even if we do win this 1-0, it won't have been worth it. Is it any wonder we're not selling season tickets when we play like this. It's the ultimate in anti-football.
Your joking aren't you? We're 1 up at a team which nearly won the league last season. They are a better team than us in all departments.
If we win 1-0 I'm going to enjoy every bit of it.
I'm not against a battling away performance but sitting back for 70 minutes is ridiculous. I am sorry, we will never improve unless we start trying to play football.
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5 at the back now by the look of it.
It's been 11 for 78 mins
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What a fucking defence we have.
(Hopes I don't speak too soon)
Aaaaarrrgh !
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Darren Bent coming on
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Only just logged in...can't believe what I'm reading. Are we really winning one nil? :)
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Ha look at Herd with his goggles on.
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It's been, like, two minute I know, but Sanchez doesn't half close down space quickly.
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I'm going to be controversial here.
Even if we do win this 1-0, it won't have been worth it. Is it any wonder we're not selling season tickets when we play like this. It's the ultimate in anti-football.
Your joking aren't you? We're 1 up at a team which nearly won the league last season. They are a better team than us in all departments.
If we win 1-0 I'm going to enjoy every bit of it.
Hear bloody hear. If were playing like this against Sunderland at home I may express concern.
Agreed. Will only be sorry I live too far away to do that among those sour faced Scousers in the crowd shots at Whingers Arms.
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4 minutes added time. Don't think my bowels can cope
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4 fuckin mins!
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4 fucking mins
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Have had to stop watching.
Am currently locked in the utility
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My blood pressure must be through the fucking roof.
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I've eaten all my nails and my fingers to the bone.
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Gabby looks injured. Sanchez and Bent for TC and Gabs would be good.
I thank you. *Bows, then collects car keys for job interview at Bodymoor Heath.*
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Yea fair do's, Baker has done well...as have the whole back 4
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Fucking come on Villa.... hold on
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Baker man of the match.
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Um, Nathan Baker man of the match.
If I ever meet him, I will invite him to punch me in the face.
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Gabby looks injured. Sanchez and Bent for TC and Gabs would be good.
I thank you. *Bows, then collects car keys for job interview at Bodymoor Heath.*
You better have some more than decent facial hair.
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Yesssss all over. One nil.
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The defence have been brilliant get in there.
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WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHH YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHH
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that'll do
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GET THE FUCK IN
FUCK OFF LIVERPOOL -
I really do not give a shit how we won that, we won it.
10 points from 4 at the start. Fucking get it.
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YESSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!
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Yes get the beers out
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YYYEEESSSSS. Brilliant. Never saw that coming. Not pretty but 3 points on the board and another clean sheet
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What a fuckin' result! Performance needs looking at, but ...
We are second in the league!!
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I fucking knew we could beat these bastards.
Thank you boys, you've just won me 50 smackers.
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i am amazed we keep a clean sheet with Baker ,fair play to him !
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Fan bloody tastic
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Oh my god....blah...blah.... - bloody wonderful!
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wish we could play at Anfield every week lol
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i am amazed we keep a clean sheet with Baker ,fair play to him !
He got motm from alan smith
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Great result lads. Don't enjoy watching us play like that but there you go.
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Looked like N'Zogbia was playing in his school shoes.
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With that Liverpool team I'd have had a reasonable degree of confidence with vlaar in.
But baker against the movement of their front four . . .
Hope you'll give Baker his due today, was a great stand in for Vlaar.
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Um, Nathan Baker man of the match.
If I ever meet him, I will invite him to punch me in the face.
Nice one.