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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Toronto Villa on September 05, 2014, 03:37:46 PM
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Happy birthday big John. Still a hero. Turned 35
JC video from OS (http://youtu.be/bmkTVkM4GZE)
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When I think back to that Villa side of the period I always think of Barry, Young, Laursen, Petrov, Gabby, but I nearly always forget what a great player Carew was for us at the time. I hope Kozak turns out to be as good as Carew was (and hopefully a song as good).
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A proper Villa centre forward.
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(http://www1.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Aston+Villa+v+Birmingham+Premier+League+wmPS0-yVSJ3l.jpg)
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Happy Birthday John and thank you for playing for us.
And everyone, don't upset the man, he's bigger than me and you!
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(http://www1.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Aston+Villa+v+Birmingham+Premier+League+wmPS0-yVSJ3l.jpg)
I love that image, and loved watching it unfold.
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Just found this. :)
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I loved his goal against Stoke, shame it all went down hill after that game.
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On his day unplayable, there were quite a few other days though.
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John Carew Carew, he's bigger than me and you, he has a good month or two, John Carew Carew.
Happy birthday big fella, if you were more consistent you'd never have played for us in the first place.
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Probably the best value signing we've ever had, considering he cost 1 x Milan Baros. Like swapping a Fiat for an Alpha Romeo.
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(http://www1.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Aston+Villa+v+Birmingham+Premier+League+wmPS0-yVSJ3l.jpg)
I love that image, and loved watching it unfold.
Great footage. Right up there with the Dalian umbrella.
John Carew, Carew.
He told us he had the flu.
He had a lapdance or two....
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Great player. Love that celebration against SHA.
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Great player. I loved his penalties. He shagged Aleshia Dixon. Nuff said.
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John loves Villa and we love John
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Inconsistant with his injuries and probably stayed a season too long as he didn't want to be here when Houllier took over but overall a key part of our successful team and I think his league goalscoring record for us wasn't far off 1 in 2.
One of the few we've had recently aswell that inspired a couple of creative chants from the crowd particularly after the strip club incident...
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John loves Villa and we love John
Indeed. Awesome player. I bet Gary Cahill still has nightmares now.
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Inconsistant with his injuries and probably stayed a season too long as he didn't want to be here when Houllier took over but overall a key part of our successful team and I think his league goalscoring record for us wasn't far off 1 in 2.
One of the few we've had recently aswell that inspired a couple of creative chants from the crowd particularly after the strip club incident...
In the league, 1 in 3. 37 goals in 113 appearances.
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HB Rocket Man. Leg.
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Happy Birthday John and thank you for playing for us.
And everyone, don't upset the man, he's bigger than me and you!
But not big enough to get anywhere close to Ash Young's crosses! Happy Birthday John.
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Inconsistant with his injuries and probably stayed a season too long as he didn't want to be here when Houllier took over but overall a key part of our successful team and I think his league goalscoring record for us wasn't far off 1 in 2.
One of the few we've had recently aswell that inspired a couple of creative chants from the crowd particularly after the strip club incident...
In the league, 1 in 3. 37 goals in 113 appearances.
He just did so much more than those stats. His presence alone was intimidating and he could pull defenders out of position and bring other players into the game with him ability to hold up the play. No defender liked playing against him. He had deceptive pace and we all know about his power. Yes, he made Cahill his bitch that afternoon at VP vs Bolton. Haven't seen too many more complete dominant displays since though our newest beast has come close a few times.
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He scored with such fantastic regularity in the 08/09 season. Never more than two games for us without finding the net. That's what makes the difference between a great scorer and somebody like Gabby.
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He scored with such fantastic regularity in the 08/09 season. Never more than two games for us without finding the net. That's what makes the difference between a great scorer and somebody like Gabby.
He scored 11 league goals that season. It was hardly a Herculean effort beyond Gabby or any other top flight striker.
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He scored with such fantastic regularity in the 08/09 season. Never more than two games for us without finding the net. That's what makes the difference between a great scorer and somebody like Gabby.
He scored 11 league goals that season. It was hardly a Herculean effort beyond Gabby or any other top flight striker.
I didn't mention the total of his goals, just the regularity with which he scored them. But since you mention it, 11 goals in the 27 Premier League games he played (of which he only started 17) is pretty good going by any standards. I can't be bothered to check, but I seriously doubt Gabby has ever had a record as good as that.
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Still annoyed that MON picked Heskey instead of Big John in the League cup final.
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Happy Birthday Big John!
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I was too young to see Peter Withe play but I always imagine Carew being the closest in my time that we've had to him in terms of style of play and bundle the ball over the net stuff. Which is doing Carew an injustice because he did have a fair modicum of skill. Some great times and memories. Gabby Agbonlahor has arguably never been the same since Big John left.
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HBBJ
UTV
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Inconsistant with his injuries and probably stayed a season too long as he didn't want to be here when Houllier took over but overall a key part of our successful team and I think his league goalscoring record for us wasn't far off 1 in 2.
One of the few we've had recently aswell that inspired a couple of creative chants from the crowd particularly after the strip club incident...
In the league, 1 in 3. 37 goals in 113 appearances.
I honestly thought it was better than that.
Break it down in the league and I'm certain it was 1 in 2 in 07/08 and 08/09 as he got double figures in both seasons and missed games through injury, particularly in 08 09 when he was out for two months with that back injuries.
Even 09/10 he had a very good end to that season, think it was 8 goals in the last 10 games from March onwards.
Only season he didn't do anything was 10/11, don't think he scored at all that season (that Newcastle penalty flew past my window the other day) so that probably pushes it back towards 1 in 3.
Still I criticise MON for a lot of his transfer deals but no wonder can argue that Baros-Carew swop was a genius deal on our half.
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He scored with such fantastic regularity in the 08/09 season. Never more than two games for us without finding the net. That's what makes the difference between a great scorer and somebody like Gabby.
He scored 11 league goals that season. It was hardly a Herculean effort beyond Gabby or any other top flight striker.
I didn't mention the total of his goals, just the regularity with which he scored them. But since you mention it, 11 goals in the 27 Premier League games he played (of which he only started 17) is pretty good going by any standards. I can't be bothered to check, but I seriously doubt Gabby has ever had a record as good as that.
Gabby scored 12 that season and 13 the season after in the league although he played a few more full games in fairness.
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He scored with such fantastic regularity in the 08/09 season. Never more than two games for us without finding the net. That's what makes the difference between a great scorer and somebody like Gabby.
He scored 11 league goals that season. It was hardly a Herculean effort beyond Gabby or any other top flight striker.
I didn't mention the total of his goals, just the regularity with which he scored them. But since you mention it, 11 goals in the 27 Premier League games he played (of which he only started 17) is pretty good going by any standards. I can't be bothered to check, but I seriously doubt Gabby has ever had a record as good as that.
Gabby scored 12 that season and 13 the season after in the league although he played a few more full games in fairness.
He played a LOT more. He started the season quite well, but in the second half the season scored two goals. Typical Gabby.
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Gabby also benefited hugely from Carews presence and hold up play. Carew always seemed to play a part in vital goals as well. Eg Gabbys winner against Sha at their place when Carew had been bought on minutes earlier with the scores at 0-0.
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It was funny with them. Individually they never really linked up like say Yorke and Savo back in the day but in their own space doing their own thing they created so much havoc to back 4s. The only one we really struggled to make much of an impact against in the MON years was Pompey who always seemed to match up well against us.
Still exciting times back then.
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Typical Gabby.
YOU CAN'T SAY THAT!! GABBY LOVES THE VILLA!
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Typical Gabby.
YOU CAN'T SAY THAT!! GABBY LOVES THE VILLA!
Can't you? How the fuck does he manage to be the most criticised Villa player on here then?
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Typical Gabby.
YOU CAN'T SAY THAT!! GABBY LOVES THE VILLA!
Can't you? How the fuck does he manage to be the most criticised Villa player on here then?
Possibly because we really all want him to be good, he's one of us, he came through our yoofs. We want him to be great.
Unfortunately he isn't and he has now gone from being virtually untouchable in regards of criticism (I remember getting a right going over on here for daring to suggest that he wasn't that good a few years back) to being maybe a bit of a scapegoat for our pisspoor forward options without Benteke.
He is average, always has been. On his day he can be excellent, but that can be said of many an average striker down the years.
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Typical Gabby.
YOU CAN'T SAY THAT!! GABBY LOVES THE VILLA!
Can't you? How the fuck does he manage to be the most criticised Villa player on here then?
Possibly because we really all want him to be good, he's one of us, he came through our yoofs. We want him to be great.
Unfortunately he isn't and he has now gone from being virtually untouchable in regards of criticism (I remember getting a right going over on here for daring to suggest that he wasn't that good a few years back) to being maybe a bit of a scapegoat for our pisspoor forward options without Benteke.
He is average, always has been. On his day he can be excellent, but that can be said of many an average striker down the years.
My point was about the rather tiresome 'you can't say that' line trotted out ad nauseum on a variety of subjects. It's nearly always bollocks.