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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Legion on August 29, 2014, 02:39:23 PM
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Back at Feyenoord.
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It must have been a big gust of wind.
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Someone coming in then ?
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http://www.telegraaf.nl/telesport/voetbal/feyenoord/23021360/__El_Ahmadi_naar_Feyenoord__.html
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good luck to him. Had some good games but overall not good enough at PL level
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Good luck KEA. Not as good as i'd hoped you'd be, not as bad as many made out you were.
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Another rubbish Lambert signing disposed of.
Let's just hope he's replaced with a decent upgrade.
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At least he can shift his!
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Yes good luck to him. Had a few good games . Thats about it.
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Good luck and thank you for your efforts in claret and blue.
Not a world beater but did a decent enough job when called on and never any issue over his effort.
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Instantly forgettable for me. And just nowhere near good enough. A salutory lesson regarding You Tube as he looked so good on there pinging the ball around and making great forward runs. Cheery bye
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As someone eloquently put on here last season - all fart and no shit .
Let's hope a couple more can be shifted so we can get upgrades in
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Good luck KEA. Not as good as i'd hoped you'd be, not as bad as many made out you were.
Yup, nicely put.
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Could never understand the level of criticism he got.
Good luck to him.
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Could never understand the level of criticism he got.
Good luck to him.
He was clearly out of his depth in the Premier League. Did you ever see him play for us?
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I won't miss him, but don't wish him any ills. Good luck dhalsim.
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Good luck to him.
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Good luck KEA. Not as good as i'd hoped you'd be, not as bad as many made out you were.
Yup, nicely put.
I concur. Wouldn't have been unhappy if he had stayed.
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He came, he saw but, sadly he didn't conquer. Many thanks for your efforts KEA, for a while you were one of us.
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Did you ever see him play for us?
I assume he's not just guessing.
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We must have a player coming in then or we have very little cover. He worked hard but was a nothing player. No loss. Get someone in who can makes difference.
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Scored a great goal against Citeh last season at the Holte End.
He seemed incapable of making good tackles and was always behind the attacking midfielder with the ball - hey, ho: we go again.
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Scored a great goal against Citeh last season at the Holte End.
He seemed incapable of making good tackles and was always behind the attacking midfielder with the ball - hey, ho: we go again.
and this beauty once you get past the handshakes :)
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I won't believe he has gone until Jim White shouts "gone with IMMEDIATE EFFECT!!!"
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I didn't mind him. He was ok overall last season but obviously found it hard going in his first season. He didn't cost us the earth so no harm done really. Good luck to him and thanks for the goal against the pinstripeyfilth.
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Good luck to the lad, started the comeback against the Albion, No mention of a fee?
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I didn't mind him. He was ok overall last season but obviously found it hard going in his first season. He didn't cost us the earth so no harm done really. Good luck to him and thanks for the goal against the pinstripeyfilth.
Ha snap
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I will not be a hypocrite. I wish him well but am heartily glad to see the back of him. Players who can do it but only choose to do it once in a blue moon are the reason why we are where we are.
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Could never understand the level of criticism he got.
Good luck to him.
He was clearly out of his depth in the Premier League. Did you ever see him play for us?
No he wasn't, and yes, of course I did.
What I saw was a player who never stopped working, did a lot of dirty work, and who popped up with a couple of vital goals and assists which did a great deal to keep us in the league last season.
Am I upset that he's gone? No. But to say he was 'clearly out of his depth' is absolute nonsense.
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Hey,
onward and forever sideways.
Bye
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Could never understand the level of criticism he got.
Good luck to him.
No, nor me, he should have got far more!
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He might not have been the best player we've ever had but he wasn't out of his depth.
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Any word of a fee?
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Any word of a fee?
700,000. Not sure if that's pounds or euro.
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Not good enough with any regularity in this league.
Best of luck to him though.
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We must have a player coming in then or we have very little cover. He worked hard but was a nothing player. No loss. Get someone in who can makes difference.
We have already signed Sanchez and there seems to be enough 'smoke' to believe that the Cleverley link is serious. With Grealish also pushing for a place then it is probably the right time for all concerned.
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Seemed a decent chap and a hard worker, never quite good enough. Good luck to him.
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Not quite good enough and I wish him well for the future.
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He might not have been the best player we've ever had but he wasn't out of his depth.
He was out of his depth. Not good enough for this level at all.
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He might not have been the best player we've ever had but he wasn't out of his depth.
He was out of his depth. Not good enough for this level at all.
We'll have to agree to disagree.
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He was easily one of the best we've ever had at slowing a game down. Only problem with that was when we wanted to speed it up he just couldn't do it. Too easily robbed of possession, not a great passer of the ball either. He did have his moments but sadly was never going to be anywhere near good enough.
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Not the best player we've ever had, and I think his main problem with playing in England was the physicality of it, not a lack of ability. Seems to me a good chunk of our better performances from last season were when he did well but as others have said these performances were few and far between. Got more goals than Delph or Westwood in less minutes on the pitch as well, I'd bet.
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He's a technically decent player but was one paced and too easily muscled off the ball. Simply not cut out for the Premier League but good luck to him. The Dutch league suits his style.
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46 appearances, 3 goals scored.
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46 appearances, 3 goals scored.
Don't let him go thats better than cleverly stats and he played with Rooney and RVP
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Not good enough with any regularity in this league.
Best of luck to him though.
Key point I think. Would have been OK as a squad player who came in for the odd game, but not as a regular starter. Wish him good luck with his the rest of his career.
Leaves us very short in midfield though with him gone and Gardner out on loan.
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Not good enough with any regularity in this league.
Best of luck to him though.
Key point I think. Would have been OK as a squad player who came in for the odd game, but not as a regular starter. Wish him good luck with his the rest of his career.
Leaves us very short in midfield though with him gone and Gardner out on loan.
We have already signed 3 to play in midfield (Sanchez, Richardson & Cole) so I don't think numbers is going to be the issue.
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46 appearances, 3 goals scored.
Which is basically prolific for a Villa central midfielder over the last 10 years.
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Decent player, would have preferred him to stay in the squad in case of injuries but I wish him well.
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Like Brian I'm not going to be a hypocrite now he's left, he couldn't cope with the pace of the game, when we came up against sides who were more patient he had the technique to have an impact but as soon as there was any pace in the game he became a passenger. Always willing to work hard and always came across as a good guy but he was never going to make it as a premier league player, good luck to him in a league where he's much better suited though.
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Good luck chap. Shame he looked really good on youtube...
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He looked the worst player at times in team that contained Nathan Baker.
That shit's not good.
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Is it official yet and can anyone enlighten me on how much we paid for him?
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Any word of a fee?
700,000. Not sure if that's pounds or euro.
Euro's apparently
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Is it official yet and can anyone enlighten me on how much we paid for him?
Around £2m supposedly. Probably a bit less.
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Bye KEA, I always rated you and appreciated your play.
I never figured out how to spell your name right though.
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He wasn't bad. He just wasn't very good either. I wish him all the best but hope that we end up with better players competing for his position.
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I never figured out how to spell your name right though.
KEA.
He was excellent in certain games (Arsenal and Liverpool away) last season which showed that he could be used well when tactics permitted but overall, never showed enough to suggest he could be a regular performer and play at a high enough standard.
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Can't say i am sorry to see him go,as like a lot of Lambert signings he just was not good enough for the Premier. He always gave his best when i saw him play,so best of luck to him
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He was OK but to improve we've got to move on some of our OK players and get better ones in. Think that's what Lambert's doing. Best of luck Karim.
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He actually had some decent games for us last season, usually away as him in home games summed up our lack of creativity in the middle.
Probably sums up our averageness in midfield these days but still wish him luck back in the dutch league.
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I know he is a poor midfield creator, but surely his departure means we have someone for that role coming in?
It can't be Cole. His age and glass-based construction rule that out.
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Mostly harmless.
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Not good enough with any regularity in this league.
Best of luck to him though.
Key point I think. Would have been OK as a squad player who came in for the odd game, but not as a regular starter. Wish him good luck with his the rest of his career.
Leaves us very short in midfield though with him gone and Gardner out on loan.
We have already signed 3 to play in midfield (Sanchez, Richardson & Cole) so I don't think numbers is going to be the issue.
No way Cole could play in the midfield three we normally play, so if we continue that way we have Sanchez, Westwood, Delph and Richardson. Way too short on numbers in there.
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Could never understand the level of criticism he got.
Good luck to him.
He was clearly out of his depth in the Premier League. Did you ever see him play for us?
I saw him play in all but one of our wins last season and play a vital tactical role against the top six sides we played, yes.
No great loss but an over criticised player
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Mostly harmless.
Was that what they said on that leaked Palace scouting sheet?
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I know he is a poor midfield creator, but surely his departure means we have someone for that role coming in?
It can't be Cole. His age and glass-based construction rule that out.
Lambert suggested a couple coming in. A midfielder going would suggest one being a midfielder, which could off course be Cleverley. I still think there will be two more in before the end
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Interesting translation from http://nos.nl/artikel/692438-el-ahmadi-terug-bij-feyenoord.html
Karim El Ahmadi returns to Feyenoord. The 29-year-old midfielder signed a contract for several seasons. Two years ago he left the Kuip before the English Aston Villa. Feyenoord wants to transfer only confirm if El Ahmadi medical examination behind it.
Feyenoord reportedly pay around 700,000 euros for El Ahmadi, who in his first time at Feyenoord to 94 league matches and in it four times struck goal. The Cockpit is the midfielder reunited with Fred Rutten, who previously was coach at FC Twente.
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Good luck Karim and thanks for that equaliser against Manciti last season.
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Best of luck to him.
He was too easily muscled off the ball, his tackling was crap and he was some man to give the ball away.
Thanks for the few vital goals last season though.
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Championship level player if we're honest. Could never put together a consistently high level of performances. Always seemed a little too meek out on the pitch. All too often he'd come off second best to some pretty poor opposition midfielders.
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Reasonable player good luck to him.
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Good luck Karim and thanks for that equaliser against Manciti last season.
Hear hear!
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I don't wish him any ill.I just wish he had never been signed.
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Tara Karim all the best. I certainly hope we have better players lined up to replace him
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Good luck Karim and thanks for that equaliser against Manciti last season.
Hear hear!
All the best for the future Karim. Thank you for your endeavour.
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Sort of like Cleverley for me in the sense that I have no idea what their position is. Not talented enough to be an attacking midfielder and not strong or disciplined enough to be a holding defensive midfielder. Always tried his best though so best of luck KEA
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Has he definitely gone or just speculation?
Unfortunately lacked the skill or physicality to play central midfield in the Premier League but a relatively low cost gamble that didn't pay off.
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As many others have already said, whilst he had a good work rate and was useful away from home at times in pressing the play, he lacked physical presence and gave away so many soft fouls. We won't miss him.
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Has he gone?
Can't find any links to this at all.
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I could never get KEA to predictive text so for that alone I'm glad he's gone.
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Hopefully we're confident of getting in Cleverley then as we've also let Gary Gardner go out on loan too.
As for Karim. Destined to be a forgotten man. One of those pointless answers in a Villa themed episode of pointless (should that ever happen outside of one of my cheese dreams).
Not a very good player, but neither that horrific that he'll be remembered the same way as Djemba x2, nor did he incite a level of bafflement or hate that players like Curcic or Ireland persay.
Good luck to him. He's back to his level. A punt that never came off. Looked quite classy in pre-season games, but come the blood and thunder of the Prem, he just disappeared more often than not.
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Has this been officially announced yet?
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I could never get KEA to predictive text so for that alone I'm glad he's gone.
Lol. I get that with cleverly , keeps missing an E
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I thought he was a very basic 'footballer', as in he played the game but you couldn't really say what he actually did.
There was a photo of him outside De Kuip on Twitter today. I'm bemused as to how a player as "meh" as El Ahmadi got to call Villa Park and De Kuip home for a large part of his career.
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Karim, Bennett, tonev, bowery, luna, helenius, sylla all Lambert buys no longer there. People blame Lerner when he wasted so much money. And yet Lerner gives him more!!
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Aren't all but two of those due to return at one time or another?
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Aren't all but two of those due to return at one time or another?
I bloody hope not.
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Bennet-yes
Tonev-yes
Bowery-gone
Luna-??
Helenius-yes
Sylla-yes
Yes=return
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Karim, Bennett, tonev, bowery, luna, helenius, sylla all Lambert buys no longer there. People blame Lerner when he wasted so much money. And yet Lerner gives him more!!
When you are bringing in so many players with relatively (for the number of players) little money to do it, you are going to get more failures than successes. I think where it all went wrong was not being able to sell Bent, Ireland, Hutton, Given and N'Zogbia when Lambert first arrived. If he had, more money per player would possibly have been spent with the probability of getting higher calibre players.
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Karim, Bennett, tonev, bowery, luna, helenius, sylla all Lambert buys no longer there. People blame Lerner when he wasted so much money. And yet Lerner gives him more!!
When you are bringing in so many players with relatively (for the number of players) little money to do it, you are going to get more failures than successes. I think where it all went wrong was not being able to sell Bent, Ireland, Hutton, Given and N'Zogbia when Lambert first arrived. If he had, more money per player would possibly have been spent with the probability of getting higher calibre players.
Sorry, Lerner didn't select any of those players, Lambert did. I agree that Lerner changed the wage structure, we believe, but those players are crap, their coaching has been crap and we have constantly been embarrassed as a club under Lambert's tenure as Manager. Why not spend a few quid on one player instead of very little on several? Yes the salary may not be brilliant for said players but it works both ways. We go round in circles and I appreciate that my view may differ from yours. Both Lerner and Lambert are useless clowns.
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Karim, Bennett, tonev, bowery, luna, helenius, sylla all Lambert buys no longer there. People blame Lerner when he wasted so much money. And yet Lerner gives him more!!
When you are bringing in so many players with relatively (for the number of players) little money to do it, you are going to get more failures than successes. I think where it all went wrong was not being able to sell Bent, Ireland, Hutton, Given and N'Zogbia when Lambert first arrived. If he had, more money per player would possibly have been spent with the probability of getting higher calibre players.
Sorry, Lerner didn't select any of those players, Lambert did. I agree that Lerner changed the wage structure, we believe, but those players are crap, their coaching has been crap and we have constantly been embarrassed as a club under Lambert's tenure as Manager. Why not spend a few quid on one player instead of very little on several? Yes the salary may not be brilliant for said players but it works both ways. We go round in circles and I appreciate that my view may differ from yours. Both Lerner and Lambert are useless clowns.
I do not mind people quoting my posts and commenting on them but there is only one (possibly two) point in your reply that relates to what I said and that is your comment about buying one rather than many. The rest and most of your reply is another rant about how poor the manager and the owner are.
Regarding how many we had to sign, we had a squad that was very low on numbers (other than kids) that had to be bolstered, once the players were identified that needed moving on.
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Solid squad player but not much else for me. With some of the signings, plus Delph's recent form you could see him slipping down the pecking order. Good luck to him for the future.
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Confirmed by Lambert that he'll be gone by tomorrow.
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Looked a decent player at Feyenoord but not good enough for the pace / strength of the Premeirship. My lasting memory of him will be a comment on here describing him as being 'like the arse-end of a pantomime horse', which I think pretty much sums up what he offered to the team.
Anyway best of luck.
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Officially gone now, so hopefully one in to replace him.
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Officially gone now, so hopefully one in to replace him.
Indeed.
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Never really got to grips with the physicality of English football did he, a nothing player, he didnt do anything particularly well and disappeared in games.
Hope it turns out better for him back in Holland.
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Never really got to grips with the physicality of English football did he, a nothing player, he didnt do anything particularly well and disappeared in games.
Hope it turns out better for him back in Holland.
Agreed.
Where you bin?
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Goodbye KEA. very much enjoyed your goal against Man City last year.
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Looked like a good buy in the early days, especially when he scored from long range in his first home game against Everton, but it didn't work out for him. Best of luck going forward, would be nice to bump into him in European competition.
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Karim, Bennett, tonev, bowery, luna, helenius, sylla all Lambert buys no longer there. People blame Lerner when he wasted so much money. And yet Lerner gives him more!!
A fair comment but to give balance Lambert has also signed Benteke and Vlaar. Two players if sold now would in my opinion bring in quadruple what they were signed for.
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I actually quite liked El Ahmadi,and think for what we paid for him we probably got value for money. He was a better player without the ball than he was with it, but still made some not-to-be-discounted contributions, like the first away at Sandwell last season, and batling performances tohelp gain 4 points at the Emirates and Anfield.
I wish him well.
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I wish him well but if we want to keep our champions league place we need better ;)
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Good luck.
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Never really got to grips with the physicality of English football did he, a nothing player, he didnt do anything particularly well and disappeared in games.
Hope it turns out better for him back in Holland.
Agreed.
Where you bin?
*waves*
On me holibobs, busy at work and generally apathetic about football in general and Villa in particular, until yesterday.
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He scored a neat goal last November against the Stripey Filth. I will remember him fondly for that, if not too much else.
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When we played Sandwell at the Yawnthorns, he got involved in a bit of argy bargy prompting my partners nephew to shout "Fuck off Egghead" at the close up on the pub TV.
I shouted in back at him when said Egghead popped up with a goal, fuckin' blabber mouth Albion prat.
Anyway, good luck Egghead.