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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Toronto Villa on August 27, 2014, 07:48:31 PM
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Alright I'll kick off the match thread seeing as there isn't one yet. Don't blame me of we pull a Bradford.
3-0 to us I reckon
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Line ups anyone?
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3-1 to us. Grealish to score!
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Well with that team anything is possible.
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Line ups anyone?
AVFC (v @LeytonOrientFC): Given, Baker, Bacuna, Cole, Senderos, Westwood, Richardson, Bent, Hutton, Sanchez, Grealish.
Subs (v @leytonorientfc): Guzan, Clark, Weimann, Agbonlahor, Delph, Herd, N’Zogbia.
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Interesting lineup, I expect Bent to score but I also expect us to concede so we'll have to see...
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Sitting here trying to think who did we lose to in this cup last year but can't remember?
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Spurs
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Sitting here trying to think who did we lose to in this cup last year but can't remember?
Battered at home by Spurs 4-0
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A woeful 0-4 home loss in which we made Holtby look like Messi. The same week we also beat Man City at home though in the league!
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I am actually thinking of muting the sound while listening online on AVFC...Why can't they do Hendrie left speaker, Woodwank right speaker, so I could mute Jack.... :'(
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Cheers. It's natural to forget pain.
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Jack trying to do too much and letting himself down.
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Not that it likely would have affected the final outcome but at 1-0 Helenius got raped by Vertonghen in the box, pants down and everything. 1-1 it might have ended differently.
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What's happened to Okore? Supposed to be lacking match fitness? Bit of a mystery...
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I'm looking at that line-up and trying to work out why we're playing 3-6-1. They're claiming it's 4-2-3-1, but I have no idea how.
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Line ups anyone?
AVFC (v @LeytonOrientFC): Given, Baker, Bacuna, Cole, Senderos, Westwood, Richardson, Bent, Hutton, Sanchez, Grealish.
Subs (v @leytonorientfc): Guzan, Clark, Weimann, Agbonlahor, Delph, Herd, N’Zogbia.
Really can't figure out the formation. Only one centre-half as far as I can see, unless Hutton's playing alongside Baker with Bacuna and Richardson as full-backs?
Senderos?
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Line ups anyone?
AVFC (v @LeytonOrientFC): Given, Baker, Bacuna, Cole, Senderos, Westwood, Richardson, Bent, Hutton, Sanchez, Grealish.
Subs (v @leytonorientfc): Guzan, Clark, Weimann, Agbonlahor, Delph, Herd, N’Zogbia.
Really can't figure out the formation. Only one centre-half as far as I can see, unless Hutton's playing alongside Baker with Bacuna and Richardson as full-backs?
Senderos?
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Line ups anyone?
AVFC (v @LeytonOrientFC): Given, Baker, Bacuna, Cole, Senderos, Westwood, Richardson, Bent, Hutton, Sanchez, Grealish.
Subs (v @leytonorientfc): Guzan, Clark, Weimann, Agbonlahor, Delph, Herd, N’Zogbia.
Really can't figure out the formation. Only one centre-half as far as I can see, unless Hutton's playing alongside Baker with Bacuna and Richardson as full-backs?
Senderos?
Ignore me, being blind ;)
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I've just been out to the car to listen to the game (no radio in the house) and theyre doing the bloody blues game.
Feels so strange not having a clue whats going on in this day n age.
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Isn't it strange that we're both ourselves and Blues are playing at home at the same time? As far as I can remember police have avoided that one.
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Formation
Given
Hutton Senderos Baker Richardson
Westwood Sanchez
Cole Bacuna
Grealish
Bent
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I've just been out to the car to listen to the game (no radio in the house) and theyre doing the bloody blues game.
Feels so strange not having a clue whats going on in this day n age.
B-lose game worth a listen though surely? Good for a laugh anyway.
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There's probably about 20k fans at the games in total
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Line ups anyone?
AVFC (v @LeytonOrientFC): Given, Baker, Bacuna, Cole, Senderos, Westwood, Richardson, Bent, Hutton, Sanchez, Grealish.
Subs (v @leytonorientfc): Guzan, Clark, Weimann, Agbonlahor, Delph, Herd, N’Zogbia.
Really can't figure out the formation. Only one centre-half as far as I can see, unless Hutton's playing alongside Baker with Bacuna and Richardson as full-backs?
Senderos?
Ignore me, being blind ;)
didn't he play for Holland in the WC ? Apologies.
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Isn't it strange that we're both ourselves and Blues are playing at home at the same time? As far as I can remember police have avoided that one.
For 3 Blose fans and about 10 Villa?
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Maybe they had a look at the average attendance in Small Heath and decided they didn't have too much to worry about.
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Yeah good point, guess between us we'll probably get a combined gate of 76 people so its not so much as a threat as it used to be
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Formation
Given
Hutton Senderos Baker Richardson
Westwood Sanchez
Cole Bacuna
Grealish
Bent
That was my guess. Is that right or is it your guess too?
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That is what I am seeing on the pitch in front of me. However Bacuna and Grealish keep swopping sides
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It's on talksport, well sort of.
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Any chances yet Aftab?
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Isn't it strange that we're both ourselves and Blues are playing at home at the same time? As far as I can remember police have avoided that one.
I remember in the seventies when we played West Ham and B-lose played Leeds, both at home in the FA Cup. 48k at Villa, 38k at the Sty. As you can tell, the world didn't end. We won, they lost, obviously.
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Good attempt by Bent and a good save
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Jack trying to do too much and letting himself down.
Woodward ?
Everytime he opens his mouth.
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Good play down our left and Westwood fires over the bar
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Good play down our left and Westwood fires over the bar
Cheers pal, can you also provide a summary of Westwood's pass completion stats and in-game odds.
Ta.
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The ball is in our net...........,,,,,,about 15 seconds after the whistle for obstruction on Shay
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It's on talksport, well sort of.
Thank you so much!
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Good play down our left and Westwood fires over the bar
Cheers pal, can you also provide a summary of Westwood's pass completion stats and in-game odds.
Ta.
42%. Shit a good chance for LO.
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We really are struggling up top. Desperately need a creative spark in this
Window
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Bit difficult to follow a match on Twitter but sounds like we're shading it.
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Bent misses a well can't say a header as he dived under it and missed the ball completely
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How is bent faring as the number 9?
I think I can guess
Completely agree we need one or two attacking / creative players pretty desperately.
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I bet it's a bloody classic down there.
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Joe Cole and Grealish had much impact tonight?
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Somebody got clobbered, not sure who?
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Sounds like Cole played a very nice pass through to Bent.
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I bet it's a bloody classic down there.
Apparently the crowd are making it like that Bournemouth third division game - amazing atmosphere.
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A well deserved 0-0 at HT for us. Pretty dire really.
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Somebody got clobbered, not sure who?
Sanchez
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Unfair to comment as not watching the game and I note there's only been one goal all night in all games
But cole, grealish and bent are the main options to improve the attacking threat of the side that's been playing in the league. Not that promising really.
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From following the Mail coverage, we are in control but creating next to nothing.
Another reminder we need to sign a "creator" this week.
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Halftime and still on page one!
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Unconfirmed reports Sanchez scored.. anyone confirm?
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Almost.
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Somebody got clobbered, not sure who?
Sanchez but he is ok. Cole looks unfit and Jack keeps falling over as they are giving him some muscle.
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51% possession, ALL OVER THEM!
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Maybe we're going to be better, but even more boring, this season!
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Unconfirmed reports Sanchez scored.. anyone confirm?
Yes. For Arsenal.
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Maybe we're going to be better, but even more boring, this season!
Even more boring? Christ.
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From the Villa Twitter timeline it sounds like we've had some decent chances, or half ones, but jizzed them up the wall. Points to a frustrating 1-0 loss.
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I think a striker and a quality winger in the next 4 days are pretty important.
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From the Villa Twitter timeline it sounds like we've had some decent chances, or half ones, but jizzed them up the wall. Points to a frustrating 1-0 loss.
If I was a betting person I'd put money on that scoreline.
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Official dude on the match console reckons that Benteke has recovered as far as jogging and kicking the ball, and is ahead of Kozak.
Possibly the highlight of the first half.
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Certainly are. Benteke will make a huge difference but the creativity is still poor
I see we've had one shot on target tonight though. That's quite good for us by half time
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At the game and its not been great. Being played at pre season pace really and we haven't created much at all. We've been a bit of threat in the wide areas with Bacuna looking quite sharp and Hutton getting forward quite well. They haven't been up to much but have had two great chances.
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Maybe we're going to be better, but even more boring, this season!
Impossible
More boring that is
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Official dude on the match console reckons that Benteke has recovered as far as jogging and kicking the ball, and is ahead of Kozak.
Possibly the highlight of the first half.
That's what Lambert said during the pre-match interview.
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Have we worked their keeper at all ?
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BBC stats:
Possession
Aston Villa 51%
Leyton Orient 49%
Shots
4 1
On target
1 0
Corners
3 0
Fouls
6 6
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http://www.flashscore.com/soccer/england/capital-one-cup/
For you lot trying to keep up with the scores. Best score site imo.
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It does very much point to a defeat doesn't it? It just has that familiar feel
Really can't see joe cole working as the number 10 in a 4231. It just feels very toothless. He's not enough of a threat.
Is grealish doing anything?
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If we do lose, it'd fit nicely into our little habit of losing to lower league opposition of recent years. We'll look back and laugh.
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We don't just need benteke back we need some creativity in midfield and a winger fast.
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They could have had pen then!
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Still sounds like a swimming gala.
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Sounds very drab
Phil Thompson saying we're not getting anyone up to support bent. Can't really picture anyone in that side doing that job. Might need Weimann and / or gabby on soon
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We are terrible. Slow, inaccurate and toothless.
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I like the sound of this patient passing by us.
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We are terrible. Slow, inaccurate and toothless.
Consistent over the last four years or so.
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We're a bad team, there's no question about that
A signing or two would make a huge difference though. Probably needs to be a loan signing to get the quality that will make a difference
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sounds like a drab game, is there anything positive we can take from it?
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Grealish hits post
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Well according to Jacks audio ejaculation Grealish just played well for a shot.
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It should have been Baker the dead-lock-breaker.....FFS!! My ears are bleeding
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Phil Thompson liking the look of grealish. Neil Moxley too.
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Phil Thompson just got excited on SSN, it woke me up!
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Cole off. He has been dreadful tonight replaced by Weimann
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"Nathan Baker the Deadlock Breaker"
Not to be though, Jack.
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Weimann for cole. I predict a villa goal within ten minutes
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It should have been Baker the dead-lock-breaker.....FFS!! My ears are bleeding
He does that most games. Wait for the old "thriller at the villa!" he trots out regularly as well.
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Has baker ever scored? He gets on the end of a lot of corners but seems to have a right 50p head
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Has baker ever scored? He gets on the end of a lot of corners but seems to have a right 50p head
I seem to recall he scored in a pre season. Maybe I am confusing him with Clark though.
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We're being us.
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Sounds like Villa are under the cosh. From Leyton Orient.....
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Under the cosh? Great given save followed by disallowed goal?
Nice
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Kin skybet said they scored
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Just been on a flight. 0-0 is disappointing. How have we played or is that obvious?
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They just has successive corners and a great save by Shay and disallowed goal offside. Jack makes a very good attempt just wide.
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Under the cosh? Great given save followed by disallowed goal?
Nice
All I have to go on is Capt Jack. Who said he had a terrible 5 mins there. Shrug. I dunno.
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Kin skybet said they scored
Poor, this team should've been good enough to beat Orient. You have to look at the manager surely?
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Sounds like Villa are under the cosh. From Leyton Orient.....
Nah, we're murdering them for possession. 53-47. Eat that, Orient.
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Has baker ever scored? He gets on the end of a lot of corners but seems to have a right 50p head
Not in any league or cup games, maybe friendlies but Clark has got a few for us.
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I'm tempted to go and do something interesting in the hope something positive happens for us while I'm away.
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Lol Lee Hendrie mocking the blues. Very good. Lots of jollies.
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Wow, more than I was expecting.
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Has baker ever scored? He gets on the end of a lot of corners but seems to have a right 50p head
Against us? Yes
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QPR losing
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Att: 17,918
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4 out of tonight's 5 League Cup ties are currently 0-0.
Not that interesting I know, but from the sound of it, no less interesting than tonight's match
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Has baker ever scored? He gets on the end of a lot of corners but seems to have a right 50p head
Pretty sure he has done a few .... at the wrong end.
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11, 245 at the sty and 2000 of those from Sunderland
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Sunderland winning
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QPR losing
And Dunne booked. Against Burton! Just think, Dunne could be blocking Baker's passage, were he still here...
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Sunderland ahead.
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I can't take this anymore leaving......
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1 goal in almost 3 games speaks volumes for our issues
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Lil' Lee: "My accumulator's out the window, that's for sure"
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Yes...but 0 goals conceded shows other half of the story. Glass half full.
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Defensively solid but threatening to bore the shit out I everyone until Benteke gets back. We might need to address this in the next two weeks.
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I can't take this anymore leaving......
What about the penalties?
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I can't take this anymore leaving......
Bloody hell that's worrying .
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Yeah it looks like 3 games, 2 shots on target and 1 goal I think, unless we score in the next ten
It's not as if EVERY FUCKING PERSON ON THIS SITE COULD TELL THAT WE HAD NO CREATIVITY OR GOAL THREAT!
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Bacuna spooner in on goal?
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ffs Bacuna! Terrible technique!
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Darren "open goal" Bent
sigh
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Defensively solid but threatening to bore the shit out I everyone until Benteke gets back. We might need to address this in the next two weeks.
Transfer deadline day is monday
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*sigh*
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Do these fuckers practice shooting in training or what?
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Do these fuckers practice shooting in training or what?
Or set pieces, or throw ins.
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Until Lerner goes we can expect more of this dross...
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Yeah it looks like 3 games, 2 shots on target and 1 goal I think, unless we score in the next ten
It's not as if EVERY FUCKING PERSON ON THIS SITE COULD TELL THAT WE HAD NO CREATIVITY OR GOAL THREAT!
It does make you wonder. How the hell it's so blatantly obvious what we lack and yet no attempt to solve it.
Two signings in the shape of Holtby and Scott Sinclair would make us ten times more threatening
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Defensively solid but threatening to bore the shit out I everyone until Benteke gets back. We might need to address this in the next two weeks.
Transfer deadline day is monday
Shit it is too. Time flies
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Leeds winning Just us in extra time then.
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2-0 Sunderland
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Thats that then.
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Oh dear, oh dear.
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The worrying thing is that lambert has been banging on about not worrying about our goal threat.
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Bradford equalise
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Go away, Villa.
Off to bed.
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How creative is Palacios or Spearing? If thats who Lambert looking at as last minute transfers to fix midfield. Feels like more of theses lukewarm recruits.
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FFS
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Well fancy that
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I think it's fair to say we all saw that coming
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Oh well, we can focus on the league now and boy will we need to...
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Crap, lots of crap.
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Ridiculous !
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I am not even surprised.
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Have we lost?
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fuckin useless
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Anyone really shocked? Our cup record under Lambert is embarrassing.
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We'll that saves worrying about Wembley tickets - gash Villa.
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FFS
Useless ****** top to bottom the club is a joke.
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Bit of a reality check that I suspect
More of the same absolute shite this season
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jesus wept. At least we can concentrate on the league.
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Dreadful stuff
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FFS. Gutted.
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On the other hand, our possession is now 54-46, bet Orient feel pretty silly now
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Have we lost?
Last minute. Yeah looks like we are out.
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To summarise. Knocked out to Millwall, sheff united, Bradford over two legs and now Leyton orient!?
Thank you Lambert for making me remember exactly how shit you are
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We go again
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Pfft
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Terrible.
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Have we lost?
I would say so.
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Is this a wind up. Just had dinner and come back on here?
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Have we lost?
I can safely say yes
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To summarise. Knocked out to Millwall, sheff united, Bradford over two legs and now Leyton orient!?
Thank you Lambert for making me remember exactly how shit you are
bloody hell when you put it like that
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I am not even surprised.
I suspect that many aren't even that bothered so used are we to this shit.
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It's all so pitiful that I feel like laughing.
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The Lerner regime continues....useless!
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At least we can concentrate on our Champions League charge now.
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Haven't seen anything, but listening to the radio it has been..."and Bacuna..and oooohhhhh...blocked/wide/mishit/...."
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Oh bloody hell. Even I wasn't expecting that.
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Villa are back.
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I am not even surprised.
I suspect that many aren't even that bothered so used are we to this shit.
No, it barely registered with me, it's been shit for so long you become inured to it
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Why the fuck did I not put money on this?
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We'll never win anything again. We are England, post-1966.
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This has really pissed me off so much more than it should. Useless, but why is it a surprise anymore!?
Hull is a huge game cause after the next 7 games we will be around where we should be in the table and the pressure will be firmly back on Lambert
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It's really absolutely disgraceful isn't it? Hard to get worked up about as it seems to becoming the norm.
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1 shot on target. 14 off
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Yeah pretty numb to this shit now
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What was the attendance ?
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At least we can concentrate on our Champions League charge now.
Wily move on our part. Just like LVG.
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It's all so pitiful that I feel like laughing.
It's hard not to, the last few years have been an utter comedy. I've never seen a more fucking clueless bunch in my life.
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How many more chances is Lambert going to get?
He doesn't deserve any that's for sure.
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Why the fuck did I not put money on this?
Was thinking the same.
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Ha, bunch of fucking jokers.
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Pathetic. Again.
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Not even enough there to boo
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Under any other regime this useless twat would have been fired, despite all the flack against Lerner, to consistantly get beat in the cup by lower league clubs is a disgrace.
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Embarrassing, but at least it wasn't a league game.
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Game over.
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How many more chances is Lambert going to get?
He doesn't deserve any that's for sure.
Any other manager in the world would have been shot by now
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We can concentrate on finishing 17th now
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That's knocked a few thousand off the Hull attendance....pure drivel.
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I put a hundred on us winning, them came to senses and put twenty on l.o. think I've broken even
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Disgraceful
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Such a shame that it turns out that Keano is a loveable jokester because I'd quite like someone to be tearing them a new arsehole right now. Starting with Lambert.
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Not even enough there to boo
17,981
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Still can't win a match without Vlaar in the team. Please don't sell him.
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How long can this fucking idiot stay in charge?
It beggars belief, it really does.
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Cue: " I thought we were excellent" FFS!
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Lambert's not going anywhere this season/ under Lerner, unless we really do get stranded at the bottom
We really need to beat hull but I'm getting less confident by the day as they sign new players and we won't
I fear that the slightly positive feeling after two games is going to feel a long way off in about a month's time
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So tired of watching the same fucking movie. Two games at VP - 0 goals, out of the cup. Fuck me
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How much more do we have to endure? Utterly shameful.
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The philosophy has changed, the players have changed, the back room staff have changed yet the results don't improve.
Not hard to work out is it?
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How long can this fucking idiot stay in charge?
It beggars belief, it really does.
I couldn't have put it better
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Is this the O's first ever win against a PL side ?
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Just so predictable. No goal threat at all and if Grealish is our best young player then God help us
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We go again
We go out again
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Is this the O's first ever win against a PL side ?
It's records all the way with Lambert isn't it, first home defeat of the season, I wonder how many he can mange to lose this season?
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Why does he have a blind spot with cups? This is a man who won a fucking European Cup - doesn't he think any of the others are worth it?
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The philosophy has changed, the players have changed, the back room staff have changed yet the results don't improve.
Not hard to work out is it?
Agreed, its the fans. I have been saying so for a while.
We need to get in some new ones this transfer window. Maybe pick up some young hungry ones from the scottish league?
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How long can this fucking idiot stay in charge?
It beggars belief, it really does.
Until his contract runs out or when we are sold
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Can we have a new sack the manager poll please?
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Oh dear. Those players are better than that, but Lambert is so incapable of setting up a side to break teams down that we never looked like threatening. Not really that impressive.
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Why does he have a blind spot with cups? This is a man who won a fucking European Cup - doesn't he think any of the others are worth it?
Cup runs are old hat. Survival's where it's at.
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Just how does this bloke stay in his job. They (Orient) made six changes.
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And yet Lambert still has his supporters. I just can't work out why for the life of me. He's brought nothing but embarrassment to this club.
Can't even laugh at Man Utd's result now >:(
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What really pisses me off is that the club had taken one decent sized and one small step forward. Now we're back where we started.
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What happened to tactical subs tonight ? I see orient managed it the bloke who scored had only been on the pitch 4 mins !
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All we can ever seem to do is catch a team on the break or against the run of play. When we have to take the game to the opposition we are fkd. It has been like this for ages now and nothing ever changes.
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And yet Lambert still has his supporters. I just can't work out why for the life of me. He's brought nothing but embarrassment to this club.
Can't even laugh at Man Utd's result now >:(
I think even on here they had all but disappeared by the end of last season. It was a long long time coming though and there is bound to be someone who still wants to give him to Christmas
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I have no idea just how many Villa supporters want rid of Lambert but, I'd guess it's a fairly high percentage at this stage.
The thing is, and I know it's been alluded to on other threads but, given the limbo position the club's in at the moment; we're damned if we do and we're damned if we don't.
No manager worth his salt is going to take the job knowing he's got the sack to look forward to as soon as new owners are found. Unless of course he's performed miracles of Lazarus proportions.
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Our stock is so low this loss will barely register with the media or in fact anybody .
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Just so predictable. No goal threat at all and if Grealish is our best young player then God help us
Others seemed to rate him and even if he was shit I can't believe you're writing him off after one game
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Well that was fucking shit. Too many players lacked tonight. Bent showed he is pretty much a spent force. I wonder how many cup goals Given has conceded from crosses? We had no idea once we reached the penalty area.
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No real investment in this window...this is the result of Lerner's policy of trying to do it on the cheap! Just £15-20M on the right signings would sort this....
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Trying not to over react to this but given the history of our
Issues and garbage served up by Lambert then it's hard not to.
If we are not busy getting a couple of new attacking players in before the Window shuts then this is going to
Be a long long winter
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Trying not to over react to this but given the history of our
Issues and garbage served up by Lambert then it's hard not to.
If we are not busy getting a couple of new attacking players in before the Window shuts then this is going to
Be a long long winter
Compared to most sites and sets of fans, it's far more that we don't react enough I think....
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I think Lambert has probably set us up for a season of survival, which, if it happens, wouldn't be a small achievement. However, tonight once again exposed his great whopping planet-sized flaws.
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And yet Lambert still has his supporters. I just can't work out why for the life of me. He's brought nothing but embarrassment to this club.
Can't even laugh at Man Utd's result now >:(
I think even on here they had all but disappeared by the end of last season. It was a long long time coming though and there is bound to be someone who still wants to give him to Christmas
I read in another thread just a couple of days ago that someone was glad he was still here. was still clinging to the notion that he would turn things around. It was the same in a match thread on the Guardian.
Not sure what it is about Lambert that means he's given more chances than pretty much any other boss we've had but it just boggles my mind.
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So tired of watching the same fucking movie. Two games at VP - 0 goals, out of the cup. Fuck me
I reckon Sunday will be 0-0 also.
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I think we should have a roll of shame under Lambert's reign. it now stands at:
Millwall
Bradford City
Sheffield United
leyton orient
I remember a few years ago thinking that we're not really affected by 'giant killings'. Now a Cup draw is similar to what a corner was a couple of seasons ago. I now want a premier League club away in the FA Cup just to avoid any further embarrassment.
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It doesn't need investment for a so called team if professions premier league footballers to beat a team from league one who have never beaten a team in the cup from this league before.
It takes a fcukin manager who has got the first clue tactically of how to set a team out to go after its opposition and grind them into the dirt. Especially one from league bastard one.
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No real investment in this window...this is the result of Lerner's policy of trying to do it on the cheap! Just £15-20M on the right signings would sort this....
I don' think it would. I mean, they would be coached by Lambert ffs. I bet Lambert would make even Pirlo play Reo-Coker -football.
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No real investment in this window...this is the result of Lerner's policy of trying to do it on the cheap! Just £15-20M on the right signings would sort this....
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Three games in and I'm already trying to avoid football
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No real investment in this window...this is the result of Lerner's policy of trying to do it on the cheap! Just £15-20M on the right signings would sort this....
Shouldn't need another 15-20m to have beaten Leyton Orient.
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Fuck it, id rather Keane be in charge until were sold than put up with this clown for the next 5-9 months
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And yet Lambert still has his supporters. I just can't work out why for the life of me. He's brought nothing but embarrassment to this club.
Can't even laugh at Man Utd's result now >:(
I think even on here they had all but disappeared by the end of last season. It was a long long time coming though and there is bound to be someone who still wants to give him to Christmas
I read in another thread just a couple of days ago that someone was glad he was still here. was still clinging to the notion that he would turn things around. It was the same in a match thread on the Guardian.
Not sure what it is about Lambert that means he's given more chances than pretty much any other boss we've had but it just boggles my mind.
Because getting rid of Lambert would mean that Lerner would give the job to Lee Clark or someone of that ilk.
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Our manager is useless and we can't get rid until the owner, who has completely lost interest and wants out, sells the club. And he can't sell the club. It's not looking good is it?
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Sunday looks well set to have one goal in it. I was hopeful. Now I'm not. I can see Dawson blocking out any minor threat we have and then nicking one
And then a godawful run of games
To be fair it did sound like we created quite a lot of chances. I hope at least this game will stop people calling for Darren bent to start. Or joe cole.
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Looking on the bright side, going out of the cups early would mean being able to concentrate on survival which is imperative if we want to get rid of Lerner quickly. If we get relegated we'll probably be stuck with Lerner for even longer and trying to then get promoted on the cheap.
I realise I'm clutching at straws in order to take a positive out of this but there you go...
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He's such a damp squib of a manager. There's no planning, no reacting to events, no aggression against very obvious weaknesses. Lambert puts a team on the pitch, and then they just play however they like. I must have said this before, but what the hell does he do?
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There is absolutely no bright side to going out of the cup early or in losing to a lesser side. FFS!!! Nothing positive from tonight.
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Re: Aston Villa v Leyton Orient Match Thread
« Reply #236 on: Today at 09:00:13 PM »QuoteIt doesn't need investment for a so called team if professions premier league footballers to beat a team from league one who have never beaten a team in the cup from this league before.
It takes a fcukin manager who has got the first clue tactically of how to set a team out to go after its opposition and grind them into the dirt. Especially one from league bastard one.
Spot on, if you can not send out a team to win at home against a lower league team then you do not deserve the job.
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Is there anybody out there that doesn't believe Lambert (nice chap that he may be) is tactically inept?
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No problem that Benteke or Kozak (or both) can't solve. It looked okay until the penalty area and then clueless. We paid £25 million for Bent? Apart from the failure in the opposition penalty area this season is so much better than last. Remember Sheffield United (and Bradford the season before that).
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I was at the game and we struggled to break them down as per usual. The tactics from Lambert are nothing short of a disgrace, side to side and back. And now add Leyton Orient to the list of lower league clubs we've been knocked out of cup comps now under that useless manager. Sheff Utd, Milwall, Bradford and now last night i really don't know what he has to do to be given the sack. This is totally unacceplable. Granted we are not going to push for many league honurs so the cups are our only chance of any success and every fan loves a cup run but we just keep getting knocked out by teams 1/2 divisions below us.
Bacuna was dreadful playing down the right, right in front of Lambert but he refused to take him off, Cole was knackered after 10 mins, Westwood is to lightweight and Nathan Baker is well how he became a pro footballer i'll never know 4 great headers all over and wide.
Only positives from the game was Grealish always looking for the ball and was'nt scared to try things but is clearly not ready yet to be thrown in on premier league games maybe the odd 20 mins but will have a bright future, Also Sanchez played well put a foot in where Westwood would bottle the tackles and can move the ball around well i was hoping Delph would have came on to play along side him...
Overall its a total disgrace and this can not keep going on... Us fans deserve much more.
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Maybe they've just decided fuck the cups this season, it's all about the league. Sad but feasible.
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That's same as last season then.
Lambert said no one has a divine right to win a cup game funny that he has handed us divine right to lose any cup game.