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Heroes & Villains => Villa Memories => Topic started by: LTA on August 25, 2014, 10:00:15 PM
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My first Villa game was a surprise Christmas Present to see us beat Man United from the Holte on Boxing Day 1989. I think it put us top for the first time that season. A great memory, although a little hazy 25 years on.
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And Alex Ferguson was under pressure and at risk of getting the sack at the time. Hard to believe now.
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It was a morning kick off - 10.30 I think - and I remember going into the Guild pub at around 8.30am. It was packed.
The queue for the Holte was long and although we got in to the ground in time for kick off we didn't see any of the first half. At half time when people went to the loo or to get a drink we managed to get a spot and saw all three of the goals. A great morning.
Thank you very much for Paul McGrath, thank you very much, thank you very very very much.
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I have video footage of that memorable match. If I recall we beat the Arse 2-0 two days later - I have an hour's footage of that game. Also, we beat Chelsea 3-0 at their place on New Year's Day to complete probably the best Christmas ever - I have another hour's footage of that one as well. What a goal by Tony Daley!!
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I know the United fans really turned on Ferguson that day, but I was 7 at the time, so I didn't notice it on the day (nor really cared tbh)
I think at the time we were flying. With a bit more conviction, we'd have pushed the Scousers even harder in the closing weeks
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I have video footage of that memorable match. If I recall we beat the Arse 2-0 two days later - I have an hour's footage of that game. Also, we beat Chelsea 3-0 at their place on New Year's Day to complete probably the best Christmas ever - I have another hour's footage of that one as well. What a goal by Tony Daley!!
Yep what a great Christmas period that was! Dismantled Manchester United on Boxing Day and then beat the reigning champions a couple of days later (though I thought it was 2-1). Those two results, particularly the Aresenal one, signalled that we were serious contenders for the league title.
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Nigel Kennedy lay down in the goal at the Holte End at half time for a photo op, the crazy loon!
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For both games the queues to get in the Holte End were massive well before kick off. Those we the days of getting to the turnstile and paying on the day, great for atmosphere but you couldn't leave it too late.
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I have video footage of that memorable match. If I recall we beat the Arse 2-0 two days later - I have an hour's footage of that game. Also, we beat Chelsea 3-0 at their place on New Year's Day to complete probably the best Christmas ever - I have another hour's footage of that one as well. What a goal by Tony Daley!!
Yep what a great Christmas period that was! Dismantled Manchester United on Boxing Day and then beat the reigning champions a couple of days later (though I thought it was 2-1). Those two results, particularly the Aresenal one, signalled that we were serious contenders for the league title.
Totally agree, one of the best Christmases I can remember as a Villa fan.
Against Arsenal, I remember us singing "Hand it over, hand it over, hand it over, Arsenal"
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If this is the game i'm thinking of, there was no public transport until midday. I walked from Sutton Coldfield to Villa park which took me about 2 hours, starting out at 8am.
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It was a morning kick off - 10.30 I think - and I remember going into the Guild pub at around 8.30am. It was packed.
The queue for the Holte was long and although we got in to the ground in time for kick off we didn't see any of the first half. At half time when people went to the loo or to get a drink we managed to get a spot and saw all three of the goals. A great morning.
Thank you very much for Paul McGrath, thank you very much, thank you very very very much.
The 'Thank you very much for Paul McGrath' was great fun. A week or two later we were giving it the 'Thank you very much for Chrissie Price' to Blackburn in the cup. And soon after that we had appeared to have about 70,000 in the ground for a game against Port Vale. It was a great few weeks/months. I was convinced we would win the league when I was leaving White Hart Lane after our 0-2 win in March. Feb? March? I think it was March.
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I remember the chorus of 'Fergie On The Dole' from that game as well.
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I remember the chorus of 'Fergie On The Dole' from that game as well.
No you don't. It never happened.
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Those were the days when United not only didn't win anything but they didn't even finish in the top six. And they lost games by three goals. We will never see anything like that again.
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I remember the chorus of 'Fergie On The Dole' from that game as well.
No you don't. It never happened.
I'd forgotten their historical revisionism suggests we'd all had a group hallucination that day.
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I remember the chorus of 'Fergie On The Dole' from that game as well.
No you don't. It never happened.
I'd forgotten their historical revisionism suggests we'd all had a group hallucination that day.
It is a reverse of The Sex Pistols/Southampton '86 thing. Absolutely no United fan was present at Villa Park that day and even if they were they were not chanting about Ferguson. For the record I was at the 8,000 Southampton game but I wasn't at The Sex Pistols thing. Was it the 100 club or something? I was probably about six at the time.
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Those were the days when United not only didn't win anything but they didn't even finish in the top six. And they lost games by three goals. We will never see anything like that again.
And they used to pay way over the odds to try to close the gap, it's hard to imagine now.
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I remember the chorus of 'Fergie On The Dole' from that game as well.
No you don't. It never happened.
May not have referred to the dole, but they were definitely chanting they wanted Fergie out
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I remember the chorus of 'Fergie On The Dole' from that game as well.
No you don't. It never happened.
May not have referred to the dole, but they were definitely chanting they wanted Fergie out
Our fans were definitely singing that. Their fans were chanting that they wanted him out.
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I remember the chorus of 'Fergie On The Dole' from that game as well.
No you don't. It never happened.
May not have referred to the dole, but they were definitely chanting they wanted Fergie out
Our fans were definitely singing that. Their fans were chanting that they wanted him out.
No they weren't.
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I remember the chorus of 'Fergie On The Dole' from that game as well.
No you don't. It never happened.
May not have referred to the dole, but they were definitely chanting they wanted Fergie out
Our fans were definitely singing that. Their fans were chanting that they wanted him out.
No they weren't.
I came here for an argument. That is just contradiction.
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I remember the chorus of 'Fergie On The Dole' from that game as well.
No you don't. It never happened.
May not have referred to the dole, but they were definitely chanting they wanted Fergie out
Our fans were definitely singing that. Their fans were chanting that they wanted him out.
No they weren't.
I came here for an argument. That is just contradiction.
Okay, if they did, where's your evidence? Forty thousand Manchester United supporters Never Missed A Match from 1968-1992. I defy you to find one who heard it.
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There is also a photo of a Fergie Out banner at Old Trafford around that time which is obviously a fake.
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I definitely remember that at the final whistle those in the United end applauded Ferguson as he walked towards the tunnel and were shouting encouragement and words like 'keep it up, we're all behind you'.
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The song that sticks out clearly to me from that day was the "thank you very much for Paul McGrath" to the tune of the Cadbury's Roses commercial.
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I have video footage of that memorable match. If I recall we beat the Arse 2-0 two days later - I have an hour's footage of that game. Also, we beat Chelsea 3-0 at their place on New Year's Day to complete probably the best Christmas ever - I have another hour's footage of that one as well. What a goal by Tony Daley!!
I was in the states as a kid with my folks at the time and trying to find the scores was near on impossible Having to buy newspapers a couple of days old !! but what a christmas week that was !! beat both my mum and dads teams Arsenal and chelsea respectively
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I was 21, after the United game I took my brother (12) to the Arsenal game
We stood in the queue for the junior/U16 turnstile & I bundled him through in front of me.
I was chuffed to get in at junior rate, I think £2.50 instead of £5 ? ;D
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I remember the chorus of 'Fergie On The Dole' from that game as well.
No you don't. It never happened.
I'd forgotten their historical revisionism suggests we'd all had a group hallucination that day.
It is a reverse of The Sex Pistols/Southampton '86 thing. Absolutely no United fan was present at Villa Park that day and even if they were they were not chanting about Ferguson. For the record I was at the 8,000 Southampton game but I wasn't at The Sex Pistols thing. Was it the 100 club or something? I was probably about six at the time.
Free Trade Hall, Manchester mate.
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I remember the chorus of 'Fergie On The Dole' from that game as well.
No you don't. It never happened.
I'd forgotten their historical revisionism suggests we'd all had a group hallucination that day.
It is a reverse of The Sex Pistols/Southampton '86 thing. Absolutely no United fan was present at Villa Park that day and even if they were they were not chanting about Ferguson. For the record I was at the 8,000 Southampton game but I wasn't at The Sex Pistols thing. Was it the 100 club or something? I was probably about six at the time.
Free Trade Hall, Manchester mate.
I was at the 100 Club DJ'ing**
**It was about eight years after the Pistol played there though.
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I have video footage of that memorable match. If I recall we beat the Arse 2-0 two days later - I have an hour's footage of that game. Also, we beat Chelsea 3-0 at their place on New Year's Day to complete probably the best Christmas ever - I have another hour's footage of that one as well. What a goal by Tony Daley!!
Yep what a great Christmas period that was! Dismantled Manchester United on Boxing Day and then beat the reigning champions a couple of days later (though I thought it was 2-1). Those two results, particularly the Aresenal one, signalled that we were serious contenders for the league title.
Totally agree, one of the best Christmases I can remember as a Villa fan.
Against Arsenal, I remember us singing "Hand it over, hand it over, hand it over, Arsenal"
I think Adams got a latish goal in Arsenal game.
Manure were battered though I think we lost 2-0 to them which all but ended out title tilt.
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I remember the chorus of 'Fergie On The Dole' from that game as well.
No you don't. It never happened.
I'd forgotten their historical revisionism suggests we'd all had a group hallucination that day.
It is a reverse of The Sex Pistols/Southampton '86 thing. Absolutely no United fan was present at Villa Park that day and even if they were they were not chanting about Ferguson. For the record I was at the 8,000 Southampton game but I wasn't at The Sex Pistols thing. Was it the 100 club or something? I was probably about six at the time.
Free Trade Hall, Manchester mate.
The 100 Club was the eight million attendance. The Free Trade Hall was the one where there were only thirty people there but they became the most famous thirty people in the world. The NME once called it the most important gig of all time.
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I remember the chorus of 'Fergie On The Dole' from that game as well.
No you don't. It never happened.
I'd forgotten their historical revisionism suggests we'd all had a group hallucination that day.
It is a reverse of The Sex Pistols/Southampton '86 thing. Absolutely no United fan was present at Villa Park that day and even if they were they were not chanting about Ferguson. For the record I was at the 8,000 Southampton game but I wasn't at The Sex Pistols thing. Was it the 100 club or something? I was probably about six at the time.
Free Trade Hall, Manchester mate.
The 100 Club was the eight million attendance. The Free Trade Hall was the one where there were only thirty people there but they became the most famous thirty people in the world. The NME once called it the most important gig of all time.
Because after seeing The Sex Pistols you do wonder what strange sequence of events led Mick Hucknall to become part of warm diarrhoea wonders Simply Red.
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I remember the chorus of 'Fergie On The Dole' from that game as well.
No you don't. It never happened.
I'd forgotten their historical revisionism suggests we'd all had a group hallucination that day.
It is a reverse of The Sex Pistols/Southampton '86 thing. Absolutely no United fan was present at Villa Park that day and even if they were they were not chanting about Ferguson. For the record I was at the 8,000 Southampton game but I wasn't at The Sex Pistols thing. Was it the 100 club or something? I was probably about six at the time.
Free Trade Hall, Manchester mate.
The 100 Club was the eight million attendance. The Free Trade Hall was the one where there were only thirty people there but they became the most famous thirty people in the world. The NME once called it the most important gig of all time.
Because after seeing The Sex Pistols you do wonder what strange sequence of events led Mick Hucknall to become part of warm diarrhoea wonders Simply Red.
Like his career at Fulchester Rovers, he started well then faded badly.
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Okay, if they did, where's your evidence? Forty thousand Manchester United supporters Never Missed A Match from 1968-1992. I defy you to find one who heard it.
Nonsense. Football didn't exist before 1992. Don't you listen to Sky man?
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I have video footage of that memorable match. If I recall we beat the Arse 2-0 two days later - I have an hour's footage of that game. Also, we beat Chelsea 3-0 at their place on New Year's Day to complete probably the best Christmas ever - I have another hour's footage of that one as well. What a goal by Tony Daley!!
Yep what a great Christmas period that was! Dismantled Manchester United on Boxing Day and then beat the reigning champions a couple of days later (though I thought it was 2-1). Those two results, particularly the Aresenal one, signalled that we were serious contenders for the league title.
Totally agree, one of the best Christmases I can remember as a Villa fan.
Against Arsenal, I remember us singing "Hand it over, hand it over, hand it over, Arsenal"
I think Adams got a latish goal in Arsenal game.
Manure were battered though I think we lost 2-0 to them which all but ended out title tilt.
Is I recall the Arsenal game was 2-1 but their players went barmy because they thought one of our goals was offside. I was also at the game at Old Trafford. I think it was midweek Mark Robins got both there goal.
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I have video footage of that memorable match. If I recall we beat the Arse 2-0 two days later - I have an hour's footage of that game. Also, we beat Chelsea 3-0 at their place on New Year's Day to complete probably the best Christmas ever - I have another hour's footage of that one as well. What a goal by Tony Daley!!
Yep what a great Christmas period that was! Dismantled Manchester United on Boxing Day and then beat the reigning champions a couple of days later (though I thought it was 2-1). Those two results, particularly the Aresenal one, signalled that we were serious contenders for the league title.
Totally agree, one of the best Christmases I can remember as a Villa fan.
Against Arsenal, I remember us singing "Hand it over, hand it over, hand it over, Arsenal"
I think Adams got a latish goal in Arsenal game.
Manure were battered though I think we lost 2-0 to them which all but ended out title tilt.
Is I recall the Arsenal game was 2-1 but their players went barmy because they thought one of our goals was offside. I was also at the game at Old Trafford. I think it was midweek Mark Robins got both there goal.
They were going mental at Mountfields goal, but Winterburn was late out and played him miles on, I remember it seeming to take an age to go in.
Was a Old Trafford for that game too, we had a nightmare on the travellers club coach, broke down twice on the way up and then just outside Walsall on the way back.
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I have video footage of that memorable match. If I recall we beat the Arse 2-0 two days later - I have an hour's footage of that game. Also, we beat Chelsea 3-0 at their place on New Year's Day to complete probably the best Christmas ever - I have another hour's footage of that one as well. What a goal by Tony Daley!!
Yep what a great Christmas period that was! Dismantled Manchester United on Boxing Day and then beat the reigning champions a couple of days later (though I thought it was 2-1). Those two results, particularly the Aresenal one, signalled that we were serious contenders for the league title.
Totally agree, one of the best Christmases I can remember as a Villa fan.
Against Arsenal, I remember us singing "Hand it over, hand it over, hand it over, Arsenal"
I think Adams got a latish goal in Arsenal game.
Manure were battered though I think we lost 2-0 to them which all but ended out title tilt.
Is I recall the Arsenal game was 2-1 but their players went barmy because they thought one of our goals was offside. I was also at the game at Old Trafford. I think it was midweek Mark Robins got both there goal.
Yeah we were dreadful at OT and Robbins was on a hot streak at the time. The match stood out all the more as Lord McGrath had a shocker which in his 5 years at the Club could be counted on one hand - bet he was gutted it was against them.
The Boxing Day game was a tight one up till HT, we destroyed them after the break. They were deffinetley chanting for his head and we were milking it with Fergie on the Dole which ended up being back page headlines next day.
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I am sure we drew 0-0 with them at Villa Park either the year before or the year after. I only remember it because it was live on the telly and I think Lee Butler made a rare appearance in goal for us.
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I am sure we drew 0-0 with them at Villa Park either the year before or the year after. I only remember it because it was live on the telly and I think Lee Butler made a rare appearance in goal for us.
I'd forgotten all about that until I just read it. Me and my rate rated Butler, can't remember where he ended up.
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I am sure we drew 0-0 with them at Villa Park either the year before or the year after. I only remember it because it was live on the telly and I think Lee Butler made a rare appearance in goal for us.
I'd forgotten all about that until I just read it. Me and my rate rated Butler, can't remember where he ended up.
I think it was Barnsley and he made quite a few appearances for them over a fair few years.
Just checked. 8 apps for us and 120 for Barnsley over five years. I thought it was more and longer to be honest. He then went on to play quite a few games for Wigan and Halifax, which I wasn't aware of or had forgotten.
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I am sure we drew 0-0 with them at Villa Park either the year before or the year after. I only remember it because it was live on the telly and I think Lee Butler made a rare appearance in goal for us.
I'd forgotten all about that until I just read it. Me and my rate rated Butler, can't remember where he ended up.
A forgetable game - was that not long after we signed Callaghan and Sticks?
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I am sure we drew 0-0 with them at Villa Park either the year before or the year after. I only remember it because it was live on the telly and I think Lee Butler made a rare appearance in goal for us.
I'd forgotten all about that until I just read it. Me and my rate rated Butler, can't remember where he ended up.
Lincoln or Scotland but from there I have no idea.
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The Doc
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I've got that match on tape.
I remember Ormondroyd slicing a relatively easy chance a mile wide.