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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Chipsticks on August 24, 2014, 10:45:45 PM
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Undefeated in my last two of these, so here's hoping the streak continues ;)
I'm hoping to see 90 minutes from players like Gardner, Grealish, and Callum Robinson to show what they can do. Would be nice to get 90 minutes from Sanchez, Cole, Okore, and Bent.
Let's have a good cup run!
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0-0 aet. 3-2 win on pens.
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Yep, Given back in goal also. Don't think we should cut two deep into the current first team as a good win will do everyone good. Plus this has always been a winnable tournament so I'd rather not take too many risks with the dropping starters.
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1-1 FT 2-1 AET
Given (I would play Guzan he's looking a bit rusty to me)
Stevens
Okore
Clark
Lowton
Grealish
Sanchez
KEA
N'Zogbia
Cole
Bent
We don't need or want any injuries, Hull is a more important game. No Vlaar, Senderos, Westy, Delph, Weimann, Hutton or Richardson for me.
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A fairly routine 3-1 win in front of 17,127.
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Can I just be really pedantic and say that a draw isn't an option for this tie so shouldn't be part of the poll. A comfortable win for us with Cole to score his first for us before going off injured, Grealish to finish things off in style
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1-1 FT 2-1 AET
Given (I would play Guzan he's looking a bit rusty to me)
Stevens
Okore
Clark
Lowton
Grealish
Sanchez
KEA
N'Zogbia
Cole
Bent
We don't need or want any injuries, Hull is a more important game. No Vlaar, Senderos, Westy, Delph, Weimann, Hutton or Richardson for me.
I quite like that team for this sort of outing.
I'd probably still go Guzan over Given though, just to make sure we don't have any repeats of the Bradford calamity.
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An atmosphere akin to the moon and a 2-0 home win.
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Given
Lowton
Vlaar
Okore
baker
Sanchez
Westwood
Delph
NZog
Gabby
Bent
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Can I just be really pedantic and say that a draw isn't an option for this tie so shouldn't be part of the poll. A comfortable win for us with Cole to score his first for us before going off injured, Grealish to finish things off in style
Ah you've shown me up there. Hoping a mod can correct my error!
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Guzan
Lowton
Okore
Clark
Stevens
Sanchez
Bacuna
Gardner
Agbonlahor
Cole
Bent
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Can I just be really pedantic and say that a draw isn't an option for this tie so shouldn't be part of the poll. A comfortable win for us with Cole to score his first for us before going off injured, Grealish to finish things off in style
Ah you've shown me up there. Hoping a mod can correct my error!
Happy with that?
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Can I just be really pedantic and say that a draw isn't an option for this tie so shouldn't be part of the poll. A comfortable win for us with Cole to score his first for us before going off injured, Grealish to finish things off in style
Ah you've shown me up there. Hoping a mod can correct my error!
Happy with that?
Thanks. Is there no way for me to edit a poll after it's been posted? (sort of makes sense if not to stop people messing with results)
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The only game against them that springs to mind is March 22 1975. It was my 29th birthday and we played them at Brisbane Rd. and lost 1-0.
It was in the days of only one sub being allowed, and they made a change at half time and their sub came out wearing the same number as one of their other players (no names on shirts in those days) I think it was number two.
I can remember Ron Saunders saying after the game that it confused our side, and I believe that there was some sort of inquiry but nothing came of it.
Anyway watch out Villa, they're a bunch of cheating bastards.
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Just win. I don't care how.
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One of very few London clubs we don't all hate. Probably because we know hardly anything about them.
Villa 3 Orient 1.
Jimmy Cumbes hat trick for us, a jellied eel for them.
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Strong team and show we are taking the cup competitions seriously. Win by a 3 or 4 goal margin.
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One of very few London clubs we don't all hate. Probably because we know hardly anything about them.
The only game against them that springs to mind is March 22 1975. It was my 29th birthday and we played them at Brisbane Rd. and lost 1-0.
It was in the days of only one sub being allowed, and they made a change at half time and their sub came out wearing the same number as one of their other players (no names on shirts in those days) I think it was number two.
I can remember Ron Saunders saying after the game that it confused our side, and I believe that there was some sort of inquiry but nothing came of it.
Anyway watch out Villa, they're a bunch of cheating bastards.
There's always a reason, long memories are in our DNA.
5-0. The road(s) to Wembley start here.
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0-1 to Leyton Orient. They're a decent side and I am not sure how serious we will take the game.
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A good chance to give Okore, Gardner, Grealish and Sanchez some game time.
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My team
Given
Richardson
Lowton
Okore
Vlaar
Bacuna
Grealish
Delph
Sanchanz
Cole
Bent
Have a feeling this won't be easy. Orient are a solid team, with a good manager who play a neat passing game and could enjoy going away to our place. But we are in fairly high sprits too and should just do enough
3-1
Bent, Grealish, and Lowton for us.
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Should be a 'routine' win for us.
Maybe 3 goals, none conceded.
Easy, but then again.........
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I think it will be 2-1 to Villa. Don't underestimate the mighty O's.
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I'd go for a mix and match approach. We should be aiming to get through and we need to see if we can get some creative players working well
Given - Hutton Okore senderos Clark - sanchez Westwood - n'zogbia cole grealish - bent
Ideally get a couple of goals up and then give Gardner and maybe even Robinson a run
The front four are auditioning for the hull game.
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One of very few London clubs we don't all hate. Probably because we know hardly anything about them.
The only game against them that springs to mind is March 22 1975. It was my 29th birthday and we played them at Brisbane Rd. and lost 1-0.
It was in the days of only one sub being allowed, and they made a change at half time and their sub came out wearing the same number as one of their other players (no names on shirts in those days) I think it was number two.
I can remember Ron Saunders saying after the game that it confused our side, and I believe that there was some sort of inquiry but nothing came of it.
Anyway watch out Villa, they're a bunch of cheating bastards.
There's always a reason, long memories are in our DNA.
5-0. The road(s) to Wembley start here.
I was also at that game in 1975, don't know if you realise it that was the last game we lost that season, we won the final 8 games of the season on the trot to end a remarkable season.
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The issue is, whatever team we put out, if we play Bent we will look uncohesive and lacklustre. Complete waste of space.
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Grealish, Sánchez and nzogbia need match time
Is okore fit ? If so play
Throw in bent lowton and Cole too .
4 1 villa
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My memories of Leyton Orient go back to their only ever appearance in the first division in the 62/63 season. I think I have the honour of being the first into Villa Park when the gates opened that day. I went and stood down the front of the Trinity Road paddock by the players tunnel. The Villa trainer of the time, I think it was Bill Moore came out for a look round and spoke to me about being in so early. Imagine what that was like back then for a fourteen year old kid.
Orient were very hard beaten that day, 1-0. My memory of the goal is somewhat vague now. I know it was a fluke. I can' t remember exactly but I think it was a cross from Harry Burrows that sailed into the net, either that or it was direct from a corner. I have a recollection that Charlie Aitken may have been involved somehow.
I appreciate this should be in memories, please move if necessary.
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Undefeated in my last two of these, so here's hoping the streak continues ;)
That's all very good but some crucial detail missing. When and time of kick off?
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Just win. I don't care how.
I admire the sentiment but I'd prefer that we didn't try to bribe the opposition into throwing the game. Not only are those kind of shenanigans frowned upon but I don't think we have the available funds.
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A nervous 2-1 victory
Weimann, Grealish
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Nice if we could get a good confidence boosting win.
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We haven't really tanked a lower league team for ages, not that I can remember anyway.
With no discernible forward line, I doubt we will here.
Two-one to Villa after going a goal behind.
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No fluting around with the back 5 for me:
Guzan; Hutton, Cissokho, Vlaar, Senderos; Delph, El Ahmadi, N'zogbia. J. Cole; Grealish, Weimann.
Is it on the box?
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No way would I risk vlaar or Cissoko .
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I wouldn't risk Cissoko and i don't think he will. Got no problems with Vlaar playing though.
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Can I just be really pedantic and say that a draw isn't an option for this tie so shouldn't be part of the poll. A comfortable win for us with Cole to score his first for us before going off injured, Grealish to finish things off in style
Ah you've shown me up there. Hoping a mod can correct my error!
Happy with that?
Thanks. Is there no way for me to edit a poll after it's been posted? (sort of makes sense if not to stop people messing with results)
I think you could simply edit your opening post.
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2-0 home win.
Grealish 23
Bacuna 67
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Shane Lowry's at Orient now so will presumably be his first time back since he left.
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2-0 Home win.
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According to Physioroom (http://www.physioroom.com/news/english_premier_league/epl_injury_table.php) Cissokho's out with an ankle injury with no return date yet. Even if he recovers in time I wouldn't risk him in this game, I'd play one of Richardson, Stevens or Clark at LB.
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A scruffy Paul Lambert type win, substance over style. I hope Cole, Okore and Sanchez all get 90 minutes under their belts.
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3-0 and comfortable.
I'm even going to predict the unthinkable and suggest 4 straight clean sheets with a 2-0 vs Hull at the weekend.
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3-0 and comfortable.
I'm even going to predict the unthinkable and suggest 4 straight clean sheets with a 2-0 vs Hull at the weekend.
105/1 on bet365
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3-0 and comfortable.
I'm even going to predict the unthinkable and suggest 4 straight clean sheets with a 2-0 vs Hull at the weekend.
105/1 on bet365
That's a very reasonable price. Could well happen.
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I wouldn't risk Cissoko and i don't think he will. Got no problems with Vlaar playing though.
Yup no way Aly will play on Wednesday.
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Why risk vlaar ? Play Clark or even Herd at CB alongside Swiss Phil or Okore if fit ?
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Why risk vlaar ? Play Clark or even Herd at CB alongside Swiss Phil or Okore if fit ?
He could just as easily get injured in training or against Hull at the weekend. Okore got injured in a league game.
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3 games in a week for vlaar is pushing it. If we can't see off LO without him we have bigger problems than I envisaged.
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2-1 to the Villa, McInally (2) Hearn for them
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Guzan, Hutton, Okore, Senderos, Clark, Westwood, Sanchez, Delph, Cole, Bent, Grealish for me
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2-1 to the Villa, McInally (2) Hearn for them
John Chiedozie is their danger man.
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Play the kids. If we win then consider it a bonus, but this year is about survival. We are in no position to sustain a cup run.
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Guzan, Hutton, Okore, Senderos, Clark, Westwood, Sanchez, Delph, Cole, Bent, Grealish for me
Given, Lowton, Okore, Senderos, Richardson, Westwood, El Ahmadi, Bacuna, Cole, Weimann, Bent
We've made a decent start. Hopefully some of those who have not featured too much will have a point to prove.
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Play the kids. If we win then consider it a bonus, but this year is about survival. We are in no position to sustain a cup run.
I don't agree with that at all. Who said we are in survival mode? We have a deeper squad than at any time under Lambert and in one of those years we blew a massive chance of making the finals in the League Cup. Look at some of the past winners of this competition. We have every opportunity of going far and not having it affect our league campaign. In fact it will help it.
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Play the kids. If we win then consider it a bonus, but this year is about survival. We are in no position to sustain a cup run.
I don't agree with that at all. Who said we are in survival mode? We have a deeper squad than at any time under Lambert and in one of those years we blew a massive chance of making the finals in the League Cup. Look at some of the past winners of this competition. We have every opportunity of going far and not having it affect our league campaign. In fact it will help it.
Hope you are right.
I will not feel we are out of survival mode until November comes and we are comfortably mid table. Till then I am eyeing the september of doom schedule with nervous eyes.
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I have a moral dilemma. A friend of mine is visting on Wednesday with a 6 year old lad. The poor lads dad died recently (sadly) even though he was a nose. Question do I respect his dad's wishes to let him be brought up as a nose. Or do I do my moral duty and take him to VP on Wednesday?
Duty or respect?
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Both.
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I don't think it is a case of playing the kids. We have senior players who deserve a chance to stake their claim. Given, Lowton, Okore, Cole, el Ahmadi, Sanchez, Bent and Grealish.
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I have a moral dilemma. A friend of mine is visting on Wednesday with a 6 year old lad. The poor lads dad died recently (sadly) even though he was a nose. Question do I respect his dad's wishes to let him be brought up as a nose. Or do I do my moral duty and take him to VP on Wednesday?
Duty or respect?
Nose
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I have a moral dilemma. A friend of mine is visting on Wednesday with a 6 year old lad. The poor lads dad died recently (sadly) even though he was a nose. Question do I respect his dad's wishes to let him be brought up as a nose. Or do I do my moral duty and take him to VP on Wednesday?
Duty or respect?
Nose
Take him to both in the next month. He is 6, plenty old enough to see sense.
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I'd definitely be starting the likes of Lowton and Bacuna. Pointless having a squad if you cant trust them to be good enough against Orient.
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And let him be a nose if that is what his dad wanted. Respect all the way.
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Let him be a nose.
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I have a moral dilemma. A friend of mine is visting on Wednesday with a 6 year old lad. The poor lads dad died recently (sadly) even though he was a nose. Question do I respect his dad's wishes to let him be brought up as a nose. Or do I do my moral duty and take him to VP on Wednesday?
Duty or respect?
Nose
Take him to both in the next month. He is 6, plenty old enough to see sense.
If it's his dad's wishes, that's it end of debate
The only time you should interfere is if he veers towards being a brummie red or some other shithouse plastic team
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Very sound advice by john e. Go with Dad's wish but NEVER let him go astray.
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Very sound advice by john e. Go with Dad's wish but NEVER let him go astray.
All the young children I know wear replica shirts from a very young age. He probably already wants to support his dad's team and quite right too, after all isn't that what we all did?
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Dad's wishes on this one. He has to be a Nose and, if you're his only contact with football then, you should see that he goes even if it is you who has to take him. I'd do it. Best wishes to the little man.
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John e has the right of it.
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Do the lad a favour and put him off football in it's entirety.
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Do the lad a favour and put him off football in it's entirety.
Won't taking him to the swamp do exactly that?
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Very sound advice by john e. Go with Dad's wish but NEVER let him go astray.
All the young children I know wear replica shirts from a very young age. He probably already wants to support his dad's team and quite right too, after all isn't that what we all did?
My dad supported Leicester. So I'm lucky. Personally I think everyone should make their own choice - like religion and politics (and sexuality, if that is a 'choice')
If I have a kid they'll get to choose. I'll just pray they don't pick Chelsea. But if they picked arsenal I'd probably just be a bit jealous!
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He probably already wants to support his dad's team and quite right too, after all isn't that what we all did?
No, and its a bloody good job. Being a Villa fan is bad enough at times but I couldn't have coped with following Wolves.
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I'm guessing were entering a time of 2nd and 3rd generation plastics up and down the uk. A sorry indictment of where this sport has gone.
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I have a moral dilemma. A friend of mine is visting on Wednesday with a 6 year old lad. The poor lads dad died recently (sadly) even though he was a nose. Question do I respect his dad's wishes to let him be brought up as a nose. Or do I do my moral duty and take him to VP on Wednesday?
Duty or respect?
Nose
Take him to both in the next month. He is 6, plenty old enough to see sense.
If it's his dad's wishes, that's it end of debate
The only time you should interfere is if he veers towards being a brummie red or some other shithouse plastic team
Quite correct.
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Assistance please.
Having recently moved back to the West Midlands can someone advise me of a good, safe place to park nearish (10min walk or so) to the Holte End.
And will purchase tickets at the ground so is the ticket office still by Trinity Road
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Assistance please.
Having recently moved back to the West Midlands can someone advise me of a good, safe place to park nearish (10min walk or so) to the Holte End.
And will purchase tickets at the ground so is the ticket office still by Trinity Road
I've parked at King Edwards Vi school for years now (they do an annual season ticket). The car park is run and manned by the school's Parents Association. Costs £5, very secure (gates locked at kick off time), and very pleasant 10 minute stroll across Aston Park to the Holte End.
Ticket office is still in the Villa Village behind the North Stand at the Trinity Road end
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Tesco on Aston Lane do parking for £4. Easy walk to any part of VP and very easy to get away if you're travelling towards town or Perry Barr after the game.
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Tesco on Aston Lane do parking for £4. Easy walk to any part of VP and very easy to get away if you're travelling towards town or Perry Barr after the game.
I am going towards Castle Bromwich. Then again doubt there'll be much traffic tonight
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Tesco on Aston Lane do parking for £4. Easy walk to any part of VP and very easy to get away if you're travelling towards town or Perry Barr after the game.
The match is tomorrow.
I am going towards Castle Bromwich. Then again doubt there'll be much traffic tonight
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You can't force being a nose on the lad though. Obviously depends a lot on how close to his old man you were I guess, how much effort you put into trying to nurture the dark side in him. You'll probably find he gets sucked in by one of the 'big' clubs though despite your efforts. If he showed interest in villa, how could you not encourage it being a Villa fan yourself?
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Tesco on Aston Lane do parking for £4. Easy walk to any part of VP and very easy to get away if you're travelling towards town or Perry Barr after the game.
The match is tomorrow.
I am going towards Castle Bromwich. Then again doubt there'll be much traffic tonight
Thanks for that. I genuinely thought it was tonight.
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2-1 to the Villa, McInally (2) Hearn for them
John Chiedozie is their danger man.
Nah, he's moved to Notts County, innit.
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We'll batter them 2-1 (aet)
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Comfortable 3-0 home win.
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Assistance please.
Having recently moved back to the West Midlands can someone advise me of a good, safe place to park nearish (10min walk or so) to the Holte End.
And will purchase tickets at the ground so is the ticket office still by Trinity Road
I've parked at King Edwards Vi school for years now (they do an annual season ticket). The car park is run and manned by the school's Parents Association. Costs £5, very secure (gates locked at kick off time), and very pleasant 10 minute stroll across Aston Park to the Holte End.
Ticket office is still in the Villa Village behind the North Stand at the Trinity Road end
I'd recommend this as it is my wife who manages the permits and often mans the gates (at weekend games at least). The money also goes to a support a great school.
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Can we get a H&V discount?
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Assistance please.
Having recently moved back to the West Midlands can someone advise me of a good, safe place to park nearish (10min walk or so) to the Holte End.
And will purchase tickets at the ground so is the ticket office still by Trinity Road
I've parked at King Edwards Vi school for years now (they do an annual season ticket). The car park is run and manned by the school's Parents Association. Costs £5, very secure (gates locked at kick off time), and very pleasant 10 minute stroll across Aston Park to the Holte End.
Ticket office is still in the Villa Village behind the North Stand at the Trinity Road end
I'd recommend this as it is my wife who manages the permits and often mans the gates (at weekend games at least). The money also goes to a support a great school.
Ok thanks for this - I parked there last time after viewing houses in the area we now live. Hoepfully better result than the reversal against The Blades
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Can we get a H&V discount?
For you Legion...?
No chance ;-)
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win...2 nil..N'Zogbia and Bent.
UTV
The Doc
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We had posts from delusional Geordies on Saturday and today I bring you some delusions from some other non-entities.
If things had worked out slightly different we could be playing in the same league this season.
We shouldn't have an inferiority complex playing villa, they are shockingly bad IMHO.
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Assistance please.
Having recently moved back to the West Midlands can someone advise me of a good, safe place to park nearish (10min walk or so) to the Holte End.
And will purchase tickets at the ground so is the ticket office still by Trinity Road
If you don't want to pay, I would advise parking on Trinity Road. I park there and there are always plenty of spaces on both sides of the street. It's only a 5-10 minute walk depending on how far up you park.
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We had posts from delusional Geordies on Saturday and today I bring you some delusions from some other non-entities.
If things had worked out slightly different we could be playing in the same league this season.
We shouldn't have an inferiority complex playing villa, they are shockingly bad IMHO.
On the first point.............. they're quite right
On the second point............ if they're going on last season, they're also quite right. If they're going on this season, they're wrong because Villa have now reached the dizzying heights of 'average'
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We had posts from delusional Geordies on Saturday and today I bring you some delusions from some other non-entities.
If things had worked out slightly different we could be playing in the same league this season.
We shouldn't have an inferiority complex playing villa, they are shockingly bad IMHO.
Why I oughtta...
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It always makes me laugh when these nothing clubs get a draw against a struggling PL club and see a vastly inflated image of their own status.
"Villa are shockingly bad", maybe, but not compared to the likes of Orient we're not. The cheeky fuckers.
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It always makes me laugh when these nothing clubs get a draw against a struggling PL club and see a vastly inflated image of their own status.
"Villa are shockingly bad", maybe, but not compared to the likes of Orient we're not. The cheeky fuckers.
Over the past three seasons I've seen posters on here say that we were "the worst team in any league" and "against any organised team down to League One we would lose heavily".
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It always makes me laugh when these nothing clubs get a draw against a struggling PL club and see a vastly inflated image of their own status.
"Villa are shockingly bad", maybe, but not compared to the likes of Orient we're not. The cheeky fuckers.
That's how I read it. We might have turned a corner and become boringly avergae, as opposed to pretty bad. But still, Leyton fucking who? The cheeky twats.
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Yes, if they'd been good enough to finish higher than third in the third tier of English football and/or had been good enough to beat the colossi of world football that are Rotherham FC AND we had finished in the bottom three of our division then this reincarnation of Brazil 1970 would have been playing us in the league this season.
We should just forfeit the game tomorrow night now, how can we compete?
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I am never confident of beating any team at home under this manager.With the likes of Baker and Clark likely to be playing, i fear it will be a struggle . I will go for a hard fought 2-1 home win
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Aly (ankle) and Vlaar (knee) are injury doubts. I'd definitely rest them for this game to be on the safe side.
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I don't think the Bradford , millwall and Sheff Utd games have helped our perception with some of the lower league minnows . They see us as a soft touch I suspect. Let tomorrow night begin to end this myth.
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I don't think the Bradford , millwall and Sheff Utd games have helped our perception with some of the lower league minnows . They see us as a soft touch I suspect. Let tomorrow night begin to end this myth.
I can't remember us losing this early in the League Cup since about 1992.
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Was that against someone like Grimsby in BFRs first season ?
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I don't think the Bradford , millwall and Sheff Utd games have helped our perception with some of the lower league minnows . They see us as a soft touch I suspect. Let tomorrow night begin to end this myth.
I can't remember us losing this early in the League Cup since about 1992.
Now you've done it...
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Like most little league teams they'll enjoy their massive day out at a big club, oooh and ah at our ground. Take the piss singing about empty seats when the attendance will be higher than anything they have had in living memory and then go home after a routine spanking to continue to worry about whether they are better than Walsall. Fuck 'em.
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I don't think the Bradford , millwall and Sheff Utd games have helped our perception with some of the lower league minnows . They see us as a soft touch I suspect. Let tomorrow night begin to end this myth.
I take the point re losing to lower leagues teams, but it strikes me as unfair to look at that Bradford loss, and ignore the fact that, in that same cup run, we won 4-2 away to Man City and 4-1 away to Norwich.
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I don't think the Bradford , millwall and Sheff Utd games have helped our perception with some of the lower league minnows . They see us as a soft touch I suspect. Let tomorrow night begin to end this myth.
I take the point re losing to lower leagues teams, but it strikes me as unfair to look at that Bradford loss, and ignore the fact that, in that same cup run, we won 4-2 away to Man City and 4-1 away to Norwich.
Don't disagree but non villa fans won't remember that.
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Was that against someone like Grimsby in BFRs first season ?
Over two legs, on away goals. We should have scored ten at Villa Park; it was one of those nights.
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In 54 seasons of the LC we've gone out in the 2nd round 7 times. 5 of those were 40+ years ago. Notts Co and Grimsby are the only ones to put us out this early since 1974.
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Statto!
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Did we lose to Forest around 78/79 0-4 at a very early stage ?
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Did we lose to Forest around 78/79 0-4 at a very early stage ?
We lost 4-2 away in 77/78 in the 4th round. We also lost 4-1 at Everton in the FAC 3rd round that season.
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Did we lose to Forest around 78/79 0-4 at a very early stage ?
We lost 4-2 away in 77/78 in the 4th round. We also lost 4-1 at Everton in the FAC 3rd round that season.
Ah thanks. You must have The Rothmans to hand ;)
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I'm like Rainman.
Or I use the internet.
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Was that against someone like Grimsby in BFRs first season ?
Over two legs, on away goals. We should have scored ten at Villa Park; it was one of those nights.
It was my 21st birthday on the day of the second leg, and one of my housemates was a Grimsby fan. Nice one Villa!
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Was that against someone like Grimsby in BFRs first season ?
Over two legs, on away goals. We should have scored ten at Villa Park; it was one of those nights.
It was my 21st birthday on the day of the second leg, and one of my housemates was a Grimsby fan. Nice one Villa!
You think that was unlucky? My mate Greg lived in Walsall and was doing the 92. Guess where he was driving back from when the draw was made?
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I was at that Grimsby game. I remember sitting in the north stand having to listen to some grumpy old ****** (I don't use the term lightly) callin Dwight yorke a "nigger" all game.
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Strange that Blues are also at home, doesn't happen that often does it ?
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Well after the MK Dons result, best hope we don't fuck it up eh?
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Strange that Blues are also at home, doesn't happen that often does it ?
It's not a rarity on cup nights.
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Well after the MK Dons result, best hope we don't fuck it up eh?
I'm getting my gloating in now before we balls it up tomorrow...
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We've lost to Bradford, Millwall, and Sheff Utd in cup competitions under this clown of a manager. I'm not that confident.
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I am. We lost to Luton, lower league West Ham, and Cambridge in consecutive seasons under Ron Saunders as an example. Shit happens in cups. On a fairly regular basis to us regardless of manager.
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We've lost to Bradford, Millwall, and Sheff Utd in cup competitions under this clown of a manager. I'm not that confident.
We lost 5-0 at home to Bradford in the Simod cup under Sir Graham. Is he a clown too? Not saying what happened under Lambert should be excused, but PWS points out, shit happens. Look at tonight for Man U, yet similar stuff happened to Ferguson.
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Nothing would surprise me, but I'll go with an optimistic 3-1. Cole to score.
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I'd love for Grealish to run riot and give the manager lots to think about for Sunday.
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We've lost to Bradford, Millwall, and Sheff Utd in cup competitions under this clown of a manager. I'm not that confident.
We lost 5-0 at home to Bradford in the Simod cup under Sir Graham. Is he a clown too? Not saying what happened under Lambert should be excused, but PWS points out, shit happens. Look at tonight for Man U, yet similar stuff happened to Ferguson.
Yes, but in that season, SGT got us promoted, and the only reason we're laughing at Man United is because they have such a long record of success.
I take your point that shit happens, but Lambert would have a much more defensible record in that sense if he had success elsewhere to point at, which he doesn't.
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We've lost to Bradford, Millwall, and Sheff Utd in cup competitions under this clown of a manager. I'm not that confident.
We lost 5-0 at home to Bradford in the Simod cup under Sir Graham. Is he a clown too? Not saying what happened under Lambert should be excused, but PWS points out, shit happens. Look at tonight for Man U, yet similar stuff happened to Ferguson.
Yes, but in that season, SGT got us promoted, and the only reason we're laughing at Man United is because they have such a long record of success.
I take your point that shit happens, but Lambert would have a much more defensible record in that sense if he had success elsewhere to point at, which he doesn't.
As I said not excusing what has happened under Lambert but the point remains, it happens to all teams irrespective of size and stature. In fact you could make the argument that it would be worse if we were better because the shock is that much greater.
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Anyone going to The Bartons before the game?
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Didn't realise until this morning that the Noses are at home tonight as well.
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I think last nights results will have persuaded Lambert (if he wasn't already) to play a strong side. It sounds like Vlaar and Cissokho are both carrying knocks though, so I think he'll go as follows;
Given; Hutton, Senderos, Baker, Richardson; Sanchez, Delph (C); Bacuna, Cole, Grealish; Bent
Subs: Guzan, Okore, Clark, Westwood, N'Zogbia, Weimann, Agbonlahor
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Well after the MK Dons result, best hope we don't fuck it up eh?
I think the Gods are angry with all things claret and blue, both Westham and Burnley got knocked out by lower league opposition last night. Cue thunderbolt and lightening, very, very frightening!
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If grealish doesn't start I'm gonna start spouting undignified abuse at lambert on this site. Just so you're warned
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Did we lose to Forest around 78/79 0-4 at a very early stage ?
We lost 4-2 away in 77/78 in the 4th round. We also lost 4-1 at Everton in the FAC 3rd round that season.
Am I right to think that we lost to Plymouth in one of the cups in the late 80's / early 90's?
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Did we lose to Forest around 78/79 0-4 at a very early stage ?
We lost 4-2 away in 77/78 in the 4th round. We also lost 4-1 at Everton in the FAC 3rd round that season.
Am I right to think that we lost to Plymouth in one of the cups in the late 80's / early 90's?
No.
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If grealish doesn't start I'm gonna start spouting undignified abuse at lambert on this site. Just so you're warned
I'll do the same from behind the dugout.
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Did we lose to Forest around 78/79 0-4 at a very early stage ?
We lost 4-2 away in 77/78 in the 4th round. We also lost 4-1 at Everton in the FAC 3rd round that season.
Am I right to think that we lost to Plymouth in one of the cups in the late 80's / early 90's?
Villa have never played Plymouth in a cup competition. Last time we played them was a 5-2 win at Villa Park in February 1988 - Tony Daley forgot which way he was supposed to be going and laid on their first with a terrible underhit pass in the opening minute.
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If grealish doesn't start I'm gonna start spouting undignified abuse at lambert on this site. Just so you're warned
I'll do the same from behind the dugout.
I hope you can run faster than Roy Keane.
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7-1 Villa
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Late decision to attend and ticket bought. Does anyone know if they have finished digging up Thimble Mill Lane and stopping parking there?
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2-0 win.
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7-1 Villa
A good tonking would be so nice wouldn't it? Can't even remember the last time we really gave it to someone.
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7-1 Villa
A good tonking would be so nice wouldn't it? Can't even remember the last time we really gave it to someone.
Sunderland 6-1?
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7-1 Villa
A good tonking would be so nice wouldn't it? Can't even remember the last time we really gave it to someone.
Sunderland 6-1?
Oh yeh...seems like ages ago.
Or my memory is fading. Isn't that the one Legion...
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7-1 Villa
A good tonking would be so nice wouldn't it? Can't even remember the last time we really gave it to someone.
Sunderland 6-1?
That game never happened.
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Texting Leeg score updates was very funny. Sorry Leeg, but it was.
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Villa uckin loads orient fa
or Villa 3 orient -0
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3-0 will land you 12/1. The O's are 5/1.
0-0 is also 12/1 after 90 mins.
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3-0 will land you 12/1. The O's are 5/1.
0-0 is also 12/1 after 90 mins.
Alright Ray.
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Late decision to attend and ticket bought. Does anyone know if they have finished digging up Thimble Mill Lane and stopping parking there?
I parked there on Saturday - no problems.
We might be the only 2 cars there tonight !!
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Did we lose to Forest around 78/79 0-4 at a very early stage ?
We lost 4-2 away in 77/78 in the 4th round. We also lost 4-1 at Everton in the FAC 3rd round that season.
Am I right to think that we lost to Plymouth in one of the cups in the late 80's / early 90's?
Villa have never played Plymouth in a cup competition. Last time we played them was a 5-2 win at Villa Park in February 1988 - Tony Daley forgot which way he was supposed to be going and laid on their first with a terrible underhit pass in the opening minute.
I remember that 5-2 game, but I could have sworn we played them in a cup competition around that time and got knocked either on away goals or penalties.
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Late decision to attend and ticket bought. Does anyone know if they have finished digging up Thimble Mill Lane and stopping parking there?
I parked there on Saturday - no problems.
We might be the only 2 cars there tonight !!
Much obliged! And yes indeed!!
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Hearing Grealish will start.
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Did we lose to Forest around 78/79 0-4 at a very early stage ?
We lost 4-2 away in 77/78 in the 4th round. We also lost 4-1 at Everton in the FAC 3rd round that season.
Am I right to think that we lost to Plymouth in one of the cups in the late 80's / early 90's?
Villa have never played Plymouth in a cup competition. Last time we played them was a 5-2 win at Villa Park in February 1988 - Tony Daley forgot which way he was supposed to be going and laid on their first with a terrible underhit pass in the opening minute.
I remember that 5-2 game, but I could have sworn we played them in a cup competition around that time and got knocked either on away goals or penalties.
We actually played Plymouth Argyle away in the inaugral season of the League Cup in 1960/1 after drawing 3-3 at home, the first replay being abandoned us winning the second.
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Hearing Grealish will start.
Hopefully Bent, Baker, Given,Bacuna,Enda , KEA & Clark as well.
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@AVFCOfficial: #AVFC (v @LeytonOrientFC): Given, Baker, Bacuna, Cole, Senderos, Westwood, Richardson, Bent, Hutton, Sanchez, Grealish. #AVFCLIVE
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@AVFCOfficial: Subs (v @leytonorientfc): Guzan, Clark, Weimann, Agbonlahor, Delph, Herd, N’Zogbia. #AVFCLIVE
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Good. bit worried about Hutton & Senderos betting burnt out midweek though. Okore still injured I guess?
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So:
Given
Hutton
Baker
Senderos
Richardson
Bacuna
Sanchez
Westwood
Cole
Bent
Grealish
I'd have gone Clark over Baker and Guzan over Given, but can't complain too much.
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I thought Bent and Grealish had the makings of a dangerous partnership v Parma
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Not convinced by that back four at all
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Lowton gone on loan?
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This must mean RL wants to move on KEA, Lowton and Stevens this week - they have not been involved with the 1st team at all. I did see some comment re KEA going back to Feynoord.
Otherwise good to see changes to front three.
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Rather like that midfield and attack. If they don't do a Man Utd and get all complacent you'd hope they'd have too much for the rightful owners of the Olympic Stadium.
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Lowton gone on loan?
Okore gone home ?
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Feyenord have bid £400k for KEA which has been rejected and they are working up an improved offer according to twitter
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Lowton gone on loan?
Okore gone home ?
Bent gained a stone
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Lowton gone on loan?
Okore gone home ?
Bent gained a stone
Delph having a moan.
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Feyenord have bid £400k for KEA which has been rejected and they are working up an improved offer according to twitter
Cheeky bastards.
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Feyenord have bid £400k for KEA which has been rejected and they are working up an improved offer according to twitter
Really, that much?
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Plenty of parking available in Bevington and Upper Sutton today so don't expect anything above 20k.
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Surprised that Lowton and KEA not in the reckoning - assume they could be off elsewhere before Monday.
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Going to struggle to find a stream for this I think.
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Going to struggle to find a stream for this I think.
I am searching but struggling. Inbox me if you find anything please .......
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Feyenord have bid £400k for KEA which has been rejected and they are working up an improved offer according to twitter
Really, that much?
Quite right, we should be paying them far less than 400k.
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Going to struggle to find a stream for this I think.
Whoever owns the TV rights to this competition does a monumentally shit job of covering it. They could stream it to youtube and get a lot of ad revenue out of it, instead every year they go to the trouble of having cameras at every ground but no coverage. Crazy.
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Going to struggle to find a stream for this I think.
I am searching but struggling. Inbox me if you find anything please .......
Will do mate, can't find anything in any of the obvious places though. This shit happens every year.
Going to struggle to find a stream for this I think.
Whoever owns the TV rights to this competition does a monumentally shit job of covering it. They could stream it to youtube and get a lot of ad revenue out of it, instead every year they go to the trouble of having cameras at every ground but no coverage. Crazy.
Agreed.
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What's happened to Okore? Sick of seeing Baker in the squad...
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Going to struggle to find a stream for this I think.
Whoever owns the TV rights to this competition does a monumentally shit job of covering it. They could stream it to youtube and get a lot of ad revenue out of it, instead every year they go to the trouble of having cameras at every ground but no coverage. Crazy.
They could also get lower crowds than they do now.
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Going to struggle to find a stream for this I think.
Whoever owns the TV rights to this competition does a monumentally shit job of covering it. They could stream it to youtube and get a lot of ad revenue out of it, instead every year they go to the trouble of having cameras at every ground but no coverage. Crazy.
And the footage quality in many instances is no better than a 1997 camcorder.
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For that very reason I wanted to go to this game, but my daughter took too long in the shower.
Was a good deal for £10 adults and £5 kids (plus the inevitable booking fees, reservation fees, printing fees etc)
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Looks a very low turnout about 15k.
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Our lads are spraying the ball all over the empty seats.
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I know it shouldn't, but it must be hard for premier league players to be as motivated in front of a ground that's two thirds empty.
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I am reduced to listening to Jack Woodward. Its all laddish banter from him. Jesus.
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Same here. Very depressing !!!
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I am reduced to listening to Jack Woodward. Its all laddish banter from him. Jesus.
He is so very useless.
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Getting a bit worried about the absence of Okore ??
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Lee Hendrie actually isn't that bad a commentator.
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Sounds empty, echoey, like a swimming gala.