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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Desontheholte on July 26, 2014, 07:05:42 AM
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I no its been mentioned on another thread about the tavern ropening! But i think it should have its own thread! As i went to the villa yesterday with my son to spend more of my hard earned money in the club shop i popped over to the tavern to see what was going on! And i must say i was very impressed with what i saw. I spoke to one of the builders and he said they opening for first home match!And they have a massive bandstand in the garden and will be putting up a huge screen! And a tree house for the kids!! I also had a look inside and it looks very nice and spacious! I think i no where i will be spending the rest of my hard earned money this season!!
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Where is the Aston Tavern relative to VP?
I gave up drinking pre-match when the pub on The Broadway (The Archers?) became a Nursery but a decent venue might tempt me back from the Holte End's dubious pleasures...
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Go to Aston Tavern's facebook page and look at "recent posts by others", click on one of Colin Maddix posts and you will see recent photos of the place.
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Where is the Aston Tavern relative to VP?
I gave up drinking pre-match when the pub on The Broadway (The Archers?) became a Nursery but a decent venue might tempt me back from the Holte End's dubious pleasures...
Either a three minute walk or a five minute stagger to the Holte End. Depending on your alcohol intake. ;)
Just walk past the church and there it is.
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Will it be free entry or a couple of £ does anyone know ?
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Where is the Aston Tavern relative to VP?
I gave up drinking pre-match when the pub on The Broadway (The Archers?) became a Nursery but a decent venue might tempt me back from the Holte End's dubious pleasures...
Either a three minute walk or a five minute stagger to the Holte End. Depending on your alcohol intake. ;)
Just walk past the church and there it is.
..........so now I'll have in my head the song that includes the words "..............They built a church next to it, And the Aston Tavern too,..........." (I bet they won't "........serve old Ansells Mild, Our Brummies' favourite brew,...." though
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Oh ye forgot to mention it gonna be a couple of quid entry fee! But hopefully they will do some sort of membership!!
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Sounds a good idea to me, should certainly create more of a family atomsphere. I am hopeing to take my friends son (who I am currently trying to convert to Villa) to a game over the next couple of years, so that sounds like something we could check out.
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Paying two pound to get into a pub will create more of a family atmosphere??
Hasn't ever worked for all the other pubs near the ground.
I reckon, if you want a proper pub with decent beer, where you will get it served in a glass rather than a plastic pot, and it won't be full of the, err, not wishing to be disparaging and all that, fucking idiots that follow us (okay I was disparaging), then you save your two quid each and use it for a taxi fare from a much better pub a bit further away.
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I will be sticking to my usual haunt rather than this place which will no doubt be rammed, difficult to get served or find a seat and you pay for the privilege . May aswell stamp MUG on your forehead if you go in here. Til it settles down anyway.
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One of the great ironies of modern football is the way people complain about the cost of going to the match yet have accepted without a murmur the concept of paying to get into a pub.
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One of the great ironies of modern football is the way people complain about the cost of going to the match yet have accepted without a murmur the concept of paying to get into a pub.
Which is one of the reasons I won't be going into the Tavern on a match day.
What's the £2 for anyway? Security?
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One of the great ironies of modern football is the way people complain about the cost of going to the match yet have accepted without a murmur the concept of paying to get into a pub.
Which is one of the reasons I won't be going into the Tavern on a match day.
What's the £2 for anyway? Security?
That's another thing, and it isn't just in football.
"Why do we have to pay?"
"To cover the cost of security."
"Why do you need security?"
"Because we're so busy."
"Won't the extra takings cover it then?"
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Exactly - a number of the pubs we go into at away games have security and don't charge, possibly because they're making a bomb overcharging us for crap (occasionally reasonable) beer. Charging to get in for that is taking the piss.
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That's the thing... for an entry fee of £2 if there are more than a couple of you it will be a better idea to hop in a cab to the ground from somewhere decent...
Who owns the pub anyway? With the money spent it must be a national pub co?
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Exactly - a number of the pubs we go into at away games have security and don't charge, possibly because they're making a bomb overcharging us for crap (occasionally reasonable) beer. Charging to get in for that is taking the piss.
Away games is another ranty obsession with me. Pubs close to the ground are invariably full and if they were any good the home fans would use them. I've never known a ground that wasn't more than couple of quid each in a cab away from somewhere much better.
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That's the thing... for an entry fee of £2 if there are more than a couple of you it will be a better idea to hop in a cab to the ground from somewhere decent...
Who owns the pub anyway? With the money spent it must be a national pub co?
The pub has been refurbished at the tax payers expense. Ie you paid towards it as did I and the bloke next door.
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Sorted my pub for Chesterfield - The Derby Tup - 5 minutes' walk from the ground on the Sheffield Road, welcome to away supporters at the north end of the ground, and a range of good beers. Anybody know it?
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That's the thing... for an entry fee of £2 if there are more than a couple of you it will be a better idea to hop in a cab to the ground from somewhere decent...
Who owns the pub anyway? With the money spent it must be a national pub co?
The pub has been refurbished at the tax payers expense. Ie you paid towards it as did I and the bloke next door.
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/cost_of_the_refurbishment_of_the_2#outgoing-262288
...the current landlord of the King Edward VII will be relocating to the nearby Aston Tavern Public House which he has acquired from the Homes & Communities Agency and is undertaking the renovation works at a cost to himself.
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That's the thing... for an entry fee of £2 if there are more than a couple of you it will be a better idea to hop in a cab to the ground from somewhere decent...
Who owns the pub anyway? With the money spent it must be a national pub co?
The pub has been refurbished at the tax payers expense. Ie you paid towards it as did I and the bloke next door.
How is that the case?
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Exactly - a number of the pubs we go into at away games have security and don't charge, possibly because they're making a bomb overcharging us for crap (occasionally reasonable) beer. Charging to get in for that is taking the piss.
Away games is another ranty obsession with me. Pubs close to the ground are invariably full and if they were any good the home fans would use them. I've never known a ground that wasn't more than couple of quid each in a cab away from somewhere much better.
QPR was cracking years back, the springbok, but has apparently gone now
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Exactly - a number of the pubs we go into at away games have security and don't charge, possibly because they're making a bomb overcharging us for crap (occasionally reasonable) beer. Charging to get in for that is taking the piss.
Away games is another ranty obsession with me. Pubs close to the ground are invariably full and if they were any good the home fans would use them. I've never known a ground that wasn't more than couple of quid each in a cab away from somewhere much better.
Isn't that all about what people want, though?
When I go to away games and fancy a few pints beforehand, I'll never even consider going to the usual away pub prior to the game, I'll always opt for somewhere relatively local which is a nice boozer (same as yourself).
I would never, for example, go to the Eight Bells near Craven Cottage (think that's the one, the away pub) when there are so many other decent pubs in easy reach, and which aren't full of other fans.
However, at the same time, on the way to that ground, I've walked past the Eight Bells and it has been rammed, full of Villa fans, who clearly are having a great time and enjoying themselves.
It's what they want, I guess.
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That's the thing... for an entry fee of £2 if there are more than a couple of you it will be a better idea to hop in a cab to the ground from somewhere decent...
Who owns the pub anyway? With the money spent it must be a national pub co?
The pub has been refurbished at the tax payers expense. Ie you paid towards it as did I and the bloke next door.
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/cost_of_the_refurbishment_of_the_2#outgoing-262288
...the current landlord of the King Edward VII will be relocating to the nearby Aston Tavern Public House which he has acquired from the Homes & Communities Agency and is undertaking the renovation works at a cost to himself.
I'd also point out that, even if it were the case that the Council (ie Birmingham City Council) were paying for it, and assuming Silhillvilla lives where his username suggests - ie, Solihull - he wouldn't be paying for any of it from his council tax in any case.
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Sorted my pub for Chesterfield - The Derby Tup - 5 minutes' walk from the ground on the Sheffield Road, welcome to away supporters at the north end of the ground, and a range of good beers. Anybody know it?
It's crap. You might like it but I wouldn't recommend it to anyone else. Stand away. Avoid. Tell all your friends not to go there.
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That's the thing... for an entry fee of £2 if there are more than a couple of you it will be a better idea to hop in a cab to the ground from somewhere decent...
Who owns the pub anyway? With the money spent it must be a national pub co?
The pub has been refurbished at the tax payers expense. Ie you paid towards it as did I and the bloke next door.
How is that the case?
Hang on , wasn't the Eddy's CPO, and a relocation deal arrived at. I can cut and paste stuff from the web too.
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Sorted my pub for Chesterfield - The Derby Tup - 5 minutes' walk from the ground on the Sheffield Road, welcome to away supporters at the north end of the ground, and a range of good beers. Anybody know it?
It's crap. You might like it but I wouldn't recommend it to anyone else. Stand away. Avoid. Tell all your friends not to go there.
And you said I was miserable lol
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Oh dear!
Plan A fu**ed!
Plan B:
The Red Lion a bit further up the road? Old Mill beers?
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That's the thing... for an entry fee of £2 if there are more than a couple of you it will be a better idea to hop in a cab to the ground from somewhere decent...
Who owns the pub anyway? With the money spent it must be a national pub co?
The pub has been refurbished at the tax payers expense. Ie you paid towards it as did I and the bloke next door.
How is that the case?
Hang on , wasn't the Eddy's CPO, and a relocation deal arrived at. I can cut and paste stuff from the web too.
So he had money given to him (or her) for his (or her) old business and instead of taking sticking it in the bank decided to reinvest in the area, proving both jobs and facilities. I fail to see how anyone could complain about that.
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Just to be clear though about the money. He was paid off to move and that comes with a premium.
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Just to be clear though about the money. He was paid off to move and that comes with a premium.
Which is?
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That's the thing... for an entry fee of £2 if there are more than a couple of you it will be a better idea to hop in a cab to the ground from somewhere decent...
Who owns the pub anyway? With the money spent it must be a national pub co?
The pub has been refurbished at the tax payers expense. Ie you paid towards it as did I and the bloke next door.
How is that the case?
Hang on , wasn't the Eddy's CPO, and a relocation deal arrived at. I can cut and paste stuff from the web too.
How does someone having their premises bought under a CPO equate to their new business venture being "paid for by tax payers"?
Especially tax payers in a different local authority area.
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Just to be clear though about the money. He was paid off to move and that comes with a premium.
Which is?
Judging by the works I'd say in excess of £1.5m. The old pub was worthless as a business , lovely building mind you. He got lucky with the road moves and CPO to move . I have no issue with this but charging punters to get in now ? Piss take
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That's the thing... for an entry fee of £2 if there are more than a couple of you it will be a better idea to hop in a cab to the ground from somewhere decent...
Who owns the pub anyway? With the money spent it must be a national pub co?
The pub has been refurbished at the tax payers expense. Ie you paid towards it as did I and the bloke next door.
How is that the case?
Hang on , wasn't the Eddy's CPO, and a relocation deal arrived at. I can cut and paste stuff from the web too.
How does someone having their premises bought under a CPO equate to their new business venture being "paid for by tax payers"?
Especially tax payers in a different local authority area.
I pay my moms bills now and she's in the region.
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Just to be clear though about the money. He was paid off to move and that comes with a premium.
Which is?
Judging by the works I'd say in excess of £1.5m. The old pub was worthless as a business , lovely building mind you. He got lucky with the road moves and CPO to move . I have no issue with this but charging punters to get in now ? Piss take
I've said above my opinions on charging customers to get into a pub - I've never paid and never will - but that doesn't alter the fact that the owner is using their own money to finance the business.
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Sorted my pub for Chesterfield - The Derby Tup - 5 minutes' walk from the ground on the Sheffield Road, welcome to away supporters at the north end of the ground, and a range of good beers. Anybody know it?
It's crap. You might like it but I wouldn't recommend it to anyone else. Stand away. Avoid. Tell all your friends not to go there.
You winding me up Mr Woodhall?
Just texted ex-Chesterfield resident/mate who tells me it's one of the best pubs in the area! Up to 10 (real) ales often available.
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Just to be clear though about the money. He was paid off to move and that comes with a premium.
Which is?
Judging by the works I'd say in excess of £1.5m. The old pub was worthless as a business , lovely building mind you. He got lucky with the road moves and CPO to move . I have no issue with this but charging punters to get in now ? Piss take
I've said above my opinions on charging customers to get into a pub - I've never paid and never will - but that doesn't alter the fact that the owner is using their own money to finance the business.
Don't disagree but let's now be naive about the pay off and why so much money is available for the AT rebuild.
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Sorted my pub for Chesterfield - The Derby Tup - 5 minutes' walk from the ground on the Sheffield Road, welcome to away supporters at the north end of the ground, and a range of good beers. Anybody know it?
It's crap. You might like it but I wouldn't recommend it to anyone else. Stand away. Avoid. Tell all your friends not to go there.
You winding me up Mr Woodhall?
Just texted ex-Chesterfield resident/mate who tells me it's one of the best pubs in the area! Up to 10 (real) ales often available.
I kind of think you may need to read between the lines.
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Sorted my pub for Chesterfield - The Derby Tup - 5 minutes' walk from the ground on the Sheffield Road, welcome to away supporters at the north end of the ground, and a range of good beers. Anybody know it?
It's crap. You might like it but I wouldn't recommend it to anyone else. Stand away. Avoid. Tell all your friends not to go there.
You winding me up Mr Woodhall?
Just texted ex-Chesterfield resident/mate who tells me it's one of the best pubs in the area! Up to 10 (real) ales often available.
I kind of think you may need to read between the lines.
Exactly. It is NOT a brilliant pub.
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Sorted my pub for Chesterfield - The Derby Tup - 5 minutes' walk from the ground on the Sheffield Road, welcome to away supporters at the north end of the ground, and a range of good beers. Anybody know it?
It's crap. You might like it but I wouldn't recommend it to anyone else. Stand away. Avoid. Tell all your friends not to go there.
You winding me up Mr Woodhall?
Just texted ex-Chesterfield resident/mate who tells me it's one of the best pubs in the area! Up to 10 (real) ales often available.
I kind of think you may need to read between the lines.
Exactly. It is NOT a brilliant pub.
Cheers guys.
Plan A it is!
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Paying two pound to get into a pub will create more of a family atmosphere??
Hasn't ever worked for all the other pubs near the ground.
I reckon, if you want a proper pub with decent beer, where you will get it served in a glass rather than a plastic pot, and it won't be full of the, err, not wishing to be disparaging and all that, fucking idiots that follow us (okay I was disparaging), then you save your two quid each and use it for a taxi fare from a much better pub a bit further away.
I was speaking of things like the Tree house for kids. Anyway, I don't know how this would work, but no am not up for paying just to enter a pub, unless the drink itself was free that is!
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I'll try it out for a midweek game, no point getting to the Bartons at about 10.15pm, as they call last orders 15 minutes later.
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Sorted my pub for Chesterfield - The Derby Tup - 5 minutes' walk from the ground on the Sheffield Road, welcome to away supporters at the north end of the ground, and a range of good beers. Anybody know it?
It's crap. You might like it but I wouldn't recommend it to anyone else. Stand away. Avoid. Tell all your friends not to go there.
You winding me up Mr Woodhall?
Just texted ex-Chesterfield resident/mate who tells me it's one of the best pubs in the area! Up to 10 (real) ales often available.
I kind of think you may need to read between the lines.
Exactly. It is NOT a brilliant pub.
I've been in that pub a few times after playing rugby nearby and I agree with DW, it's an awful pub, definitely not somewhere I'd suggest to fans going to Chesterfield who like good beers and a much quieter place to drink them than most of the pubs around there.
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See you in there, then.
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See you in there, then.
Where are you?
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Sorry, Dave, went in after the game. I needed something to fortify me after that lot.
Met three Villa fans inside /outside the Tup who gave me the benefit of their Villa-following experiences, as well as interesting angles on the Saunders resignation and the Helenius situation.
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Which are/were?
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One fellow reckoned that RS resigned because he had become aware of Bendall's intention of selling out to Ellis. Rather than wait to be sacked, he quit. Not sure I'm convinced by this -how easy would it be to sack arguably the most successful manager in the club's history, a man who was adored by a high percentage of the support?
The other issue was the Gladiator. This chap maintained that Helenius threw a strop at Weimann in last season's Malaga friendly because of the latter's laziness on the pitch. When MH was later withdrawn, he was seen to have an argument with PL -the implication was that this dispute had not been resolved so PL was reluctant to select MH. I didn't attend this match so can't comment on the accuracy of this story.
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That Saunders story is nonsense. He left in February, no-one knew Ellis was coming back until it was announced in December.
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That Saunders story is nonsense. He left in February, no-one knew Ellis was coming back until it was announced in December.
I well remember RS quoted as saying they want a teaboy not a manager.
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Are there any pictures of the refurb online?
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Are there any pictures of the refurb online?
Here you go:
http://www.birminghampost.co.uk/news/regeneration/aston-tavern-open-villa-matches-7620618
Looks great, well done to the developers. Hope it goes well for them.
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I hope nobody uses the doors at the end of the upper floors.
(http://i1.birminghampost.co.uk/incoming/article7622096.ece/alternates/s2197/aston-tavern-3.jpg)
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I hope nobody uses the doors at the end of the upper floors.
(http://i1.birminghampost.co.uk/incoming/article7622096.ece/alternates/s2197/aston-tavern-3.jpg)
They're for ejecting away fans.
Another Aston boozer that may be of interest to H&Vers:
http://www.birminghampost.co.uk/lifestyle/food-drink/review-oaka-restaurant-bartons-arms-7613482
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It's good to see another eyesore around Villa Park given a new lease of life. I won't be able to support this establishment but I do hope enough people do on match days and non match days.
It's good to see Michelle Monaghan doing even more for the drinking man!
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Feel I've gone full circle, a pub as a boy with grandad, years of dereliction, a new pub to take my son to.
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Are there any pictures of the refurb online?
Here you go:
http://www.birminghampost.co.uk/news/regeneration/aston-tavern-open-villa-matches-7620618
Looks great, well done to the developers. Hope it goes well for them.
Very nice. Looking forward to going in there. Though I'm not sure about the doors at the side of the building.
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The door at the side is Away fans entrance.
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Have to walk past it on my way to VP...or perhaps I won't any longer!!! :D
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Loved the old Aston Tavern, great atmosphere.
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Looks very nice doesn't it? Shame about the expressway right next to it. Just can't see it being financially viable though, unfortunately. Isn't the holte pub now running at a loss to the club. I don't see where the local market is to sustain both pubs. Sad as they both deserve to be chockers every night. Maybe the new development of the industrial park nearby might help?
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The Holte Pub only opens on a matchday during the day now I think, real shame as it's a lovely old pub / building.
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There isn't a market. The local populace is mainly Muslim who cannot drink alcohol. Financially it doesnt make any sense at all. Doug wanted to knock the Holte down when it was derelict but couldnt get permission. As silhill says, its only open on matchdays and is costing the club money that could be utilised elsewhere.
Is the Barton Arms profitable? I certainly hope it is, for it would be a disaster to lose that magnificent building.
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Exactly - a number of the pubs we go into at away games have security and don't charge, possibly because they're making a bomb overcharging us for crap (occasionally reasonable) beer. Charging to get in for that is taking the piss.
Away games is another ranty obsession with me. Pubs close to the ground are invariably full and if they were any good the home fans would use them. I've never known a ground that wasn't more than couple of quid each in a cab away from somewhere much better.
Isn't that all about what people want, though?
When I go to away games and fancy a few pints beforehand, I'll never even consider going to the usual away pub prior to the game, I'll always opt for somewhere relatively local which is a nice boozer (same as yourself).
I would never, for example, go to the Eight Bells near Craven Cottage (think that's the one, the away pub) when there are so many other decent pubs in easy reach, and which aren't full of other fans.
However, at the same time, on the way to that ground, I've walked past the Eight Bells and it has been rammed, full of Villa fans, who clearly are having a great time and enjoying themselves.
It's what they want, I guess.
At Fulham we always go to The Crab Tree, which Is right on the bank of the Thames. Past the away end, keep walking for about 15 minutes. Glorious pub. Great ales too.
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The Holte Pub used to have a boxing club up on the first floor, maybe they should get back to that and then live bands in the pub say on a couple of nights midweek . I'm sure with some imagination they could make it viable. I think I'd cry if that building ever got bulldozed.
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There isn't a market. The local populace is mainly Muslim who cannot drink alcohol. Financially it doesnt make any sense at all. Doug wanted to knock the Holte down when it was derelict but couldnt get permission. As silhill says, its only open on matchdays and is costing the club money that could be utilised elsewhere.
Is the Barton Arms profitable? I certainly hope it is, for it would be a disaster to lose that magnificent building.
The review I posted of the Bartons says it was packed on a Tuesday, so they are doing something right. Visionary and imaginitive management is the key, and The Bartons is one of a number of Birmingham pubs doing well in unlikely settings. I'd guess that the surviving pubs round Villa Park make just about enough on matchdays to keep going the rest of the year. Anyway, demographics can change over time - Aston might become home to a lot of eastern Europeans who like a drink, or even become gentrified.
#evertheoptimist#
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If the Bartons was packed it was a very rare Tuesday indeed. Most of the time the restaurant does okay and the bar is deserted.
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Just read the Aston Tavern will be charging £3 entry on match days.
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Just read the Aston Tavern will be charging £3 entry on match days.
I've just read that, and that the Aston Hotel has now closed.
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Just read the Aston Tavern will be charging £3 entry on match days.
I've just read that, and that the Aston Hotel has now closed.
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Any more info Dave? Somebody only just bought it for £475k.
Ignore yhe quite fail, been a long day.
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Just read the Aston Tavern will be charging £3 entry on match days.
I've just read that, and that the Aston Hotel has now closed.
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Any more info Dave? Somebody only just bought it for £475k.
According to the Asto Tavern Twitter feed it's being turned into a womens hostel. I know it was sold a few weeks ago at the auction when the Garrison failed to find a buyer.
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£3!
Is the beer free once you're in?
:D
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£3!
Is the beer free once you're in?
:D
Carling £3.65.
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£3!
Is the beer free once you're in?
:D
Carling £3.65.
Blimey, that is a bit steep!
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I can see it from both sides.
There clearly, without Villa games, wouldn't be enough money in it to refurbish a pub like that and keep it open, given that the local population mostly does not drink for religious reasons, so they need to pull in as much as they can on the 19 or so days a year that Villa play at home. I get that, I'd probably do the same if i was them.
On the other hand, £3.65 for a pint of Carling? Paying to get in? I can see why people wouldn't fancy that, either.
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Wasn't the refurb money by way of a Grant from the council and part of the CPO deal for the King Ed's ?
£3 entry and £3.65 for a pint of Carling is very steep indeed.
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Is the Aston Social going as part of the Industrial development ?
Sure I read on here , to lazy to look back though.
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Will this be a members only type of thing like the swan? Probably heading over for the arsenal game but always have hassle getting into the swan to meet bren and his mates because we don't have a pass.
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Just read the Aston Tavern will be charging £3 entry on match days.
I've just read that, and that the Aston Hotel has now closed.
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Any more info Dave? Somebody only just bought it for £475k.
According to the Asto Tavern Twitter feed it's being turned into a womens hostel. I know it was sold a few weeks ago at the auction when the Garrison failed to find a buyer.
They haven't long done the Aston Hotel out either so i'm surprised about that.
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Will this be a members only type of thing like the swan? Probably heading over for the arsenal game but always have hassle getting into the swan to meet bren and his mates because we don't have a pass.
If your mate Bren and his mates are regulars get them to ask Annie for a pass. She still issues them, i got a couple last season for friends.
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Where's The Swan?
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Where's The Swan?
Swan & Mitre over the road from Aston Station.
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£3 entry, I think i'll drink in the town or at the Bartons.
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Just read the Aston Tavern will be charging £3 entry on match days.
I've just read that, and that the Aston Hotel has now closed.
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Any more info Dave? Somebody only just bought it for £475k.
According to the Asto Tavern Twitter feed it's being turned into a womens hostel. I know it was sold a few weeks ago at the auction when the Garrison failed to find a buyer.
They haven't long done the Aston Hotel out either so i'm surprised about that.
The Garrison did find a buyer.
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If they'd do an Aston Social type membership card, I'd consider it. But at those, prices I'll stick to The Social.
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If they'd do an Aston Social type membership card, I'd consider it. But at those, prices I'll stick to The Social.
Is The Social still open? I thought for some reason that had closed as well.
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If they'd do an Aston Social type membership card, I'd consider it. But at those, prices I'll stick to The Social.
Is The Social still open? I thought for some reason that had closed as well.
I believe it was open for the Parma game...
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If they'd do an Aston Social type membership card, I'd consider it. But at those, prices I'll stick to The Social.
Is The Social still open? I thought for some reason that had closed as well.
The Social isn't closing.
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£3!
Is the beer free once you're in?
:D
Carling £3.65.
.. and just shy of £4.00 for a peroni
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Are these just match day prices?
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Anybody know what time it opens on Saturday?
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If they'd do an Aston Social type membership card, I'd consider it. But at those, prices I'll stick to The Social.
Is The Social still open? I thought for some reason that had closed as well.
The Social isn't closing.
Oh, I thought the Social was being knocked down!
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On the few occasions I have a drink before the game I always go to either the Bartons or Sacred Heart. Sod paying £3 to go in a pub.
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Sacred Heart for us too. I can understand the Tavern charging a fee as it's close to the ground, but at £3 and pricey beer, it's not for me. In any case, I doubt very much that they'll struggle for custom on a match day, especially as The Edward and Aston Hotel have gone. The Witton Arms and even The Yew Tree charges for admission these days.
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Anybody know what time it opens on Saturday?
10am
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They've spent a few quid on the place and it's nice to see it open again:
Aston Tavern Refurb (http://www.birminghampost.co.uk/news/regional-affairs/aston-tavern-owners-want-new-look-7643554)
I hope it does well.
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Very nice. I know its £3 a go, but does anyone know if they're doing membership?
Edit - Just read they're charging £3.75 a pint for Carling...that'll keep the numbers down for sure
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Does the Sacred Heart have live music on?
I remember a friend talking about going somewhere before/after games that had live music, but couldn't remember the pub name
Think it could have been there
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Does the Sacred Heart have live music on?
I remember a friend talking about going somewhere before/after games that had live music, but couldn't remember the pub name
Think it could have been there
It does a lot of functions etc, they may have something on a Saturday evening for the locals but most there just because of the Villa will have left by then unless it's a late KO time like the Citeh game.
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The Villa Tavern sometimes have a disco in the backroom on a Saturday night. Bring your whistle and glow sticks.
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Ok its expensive to get in and the beer is too but credit to them.
They have done a great job and it was a great place to have a beer in while the traffic dies down..
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Ok its expensive to get in and the beer is too but credit to them.
They have done a great job and it was a great place to have a beer in while the traffic dies down..
That's the point. They're doing something a bit different in the area and they've only got twenty or so days a year to recoup their investment. You can pay three quid to go somewhere decent or nothing to go into one that's rundown. The choice is yours.
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How long has there been an outdoor dj at the Witton Arms? Some serious volume going on there pre match.
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How long has there been an outdoor dj at the Witton Arms? Some serious volume going on there pre match.
First year I think. Away pub no ?
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Looked mixed to me...probably taking advantage of the Aston Hotel closing
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It's always been mixed.
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What is a typical price for a pint of Carling in Birmingham?
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What is a typical price for a pint of Carling in Birmingham?
£2.50
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I paid £12 for me and my kids to get in to the Holte suite today....we then paid £8.99 for a very average full english breakfast and then paid well over the odds for drinks for a couple of hours.......I would welcome a more value for money match day experience but it seems that as football fans (especially in the PL) we should expect to pay premium prices for average products
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What is a typical price for a pint of Carling in Birmingham?
£2.50
3 bloody 75 for me today watching it in deepest croydon.
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This charging for entry into a pub is a bit rich isn't it? Then again if people are prepared to pay it then they'll keep doing it.
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On the last day of last season we paid £2 into the Eddy's but that included a band. That seemed ok.
£3 just to get in isn't ok with me. Especially when the beers expensive too.
It won't survive unless it gets realistic .
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I will not, ever, pay to enter a pub. Unless there is an eat all you want buffet or Tony Bennett is singing in the lounge. Preferably both.
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Ok its expensive to get in and the beer is too but credit to them.
They have done a great job and it was a great place to have a beer in while the traffic dies down..
That's the point. They're doing something a bit different in the area and they've only got twenty or so days a year to recoup their investment. You can pay three quid to go somewhere decent or nothing to go into one that's rundown. The choice is yours.
The point about them only taking decent money 20 days a year is a valid point and one i hadn't considered, but i still think £3 entry is a little steep for a pub. I always thought the Holte Suite was pricey but at least you get a programme thrown in with your entry fee.
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How busy was it in there yesterday?
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I'll stick to The Adventurers thanks, £1 in and a decent pint for £3.
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I'll stick to The Adventurers thanks, £1 in and a decent pint for £3.
I think that is due to go too. The Swan and Mitre is also up for sale.
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I'll stick to The Adventurers thanks, £1 in and a decent pint for £3.
I think that is due to go too. The Swan and Mitre is also up for sale.
Bloody hell. This industrial estate better be successful to justify such vandalism. The Swan and Mitre is a lovely building.
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I'll stick to The Adventurers thanks, £1 in and a decent pint for £3.
I think that is due to go too. The Swan and Mitre is also up for sale.
Bloody hell. This industrial estate better be successful to justify such vandalism. The Swan and Mitre is a lovely building.
The Swan is not part of that fortunately. I had a chat with her yesterday and she just thinks it is the right time for them to move on but she is conscious of selling to the right people so with luck it will stay pretty much as it is.
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I'll stick to The Adventurers thanks, £1 in and a decent pint for £3.
I think that is due to go too. The Swan and Mitre is also up for sale.
Bloody hell. This industrial estate better be successful to justify such vandalism. The Swan and Mitre is a lovely building.
The Swan is not part of that fortunately. I had a chat with her yesterday and she just thinks it is the right time for them to move on but she is conscious of selling to the right people so with luck it will stay pretty much as it is.
Hope so.
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I'll stick to The Adventurers thanks, £1 in and a decent pint for £3.
I think that is due to go too. The Swan and Mitre is also up for sale.
Bloody hell. This industrial estate better be successful to justify such vandalism. The Swan and Mitre is a lovely building.
At this rate there'll only be a handful of pubs left around the ground
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I'll stick to The Adventurers thanks, £1 in and a decent pint for £3.
I think that is due to go too. The Swan and Mitre is also up for sale.
Bloody hell. This industrial estate better be successful to justify such vandalism. The Swan and Mitre is a lovely building.
At this rate there'll only be a handful of pubs left around the ground
Wasn't there some talk of re-opening the Rat-Pan?
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If I had the money id buy the Brittania and restore that to it's former glory. Another lovely old building.
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I paid £12 for me and my kids to get in to the Holte suite today....we then paid £8.99 for a very average full english breakfast and then paid well over the odds for drinks for a couple of hours.......I would welcome a more value for money match day experience but it seems that as football fans (especially in the PL) we should expect to pay premium prices for average products
I went in the holte suite before the game too - as I wanted to watch the start of the cricket .
£4 entry for me - which gets a programme is decent value - but I think charging £2 for kids to go in is pretty poor .
Last week I went to power league before the game at stoke - and they didn't charge a penny to get in.
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I can see Hip Flasks becoming vogue again .
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If I had the money id buy the Brittania and restore that to it's former glory. Another lovely old building.
Which would be empty 345 days of the year.
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If I had the money id buy the Brittania and restore that to it's former glory. Another lovely old building.
Which would be empty 345 days of the year.
No mate. During the weekdays it would cater to the locals and workers , of an evening something a little more sophisticated for the international traveller.
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I paid £12 for me and my kids to get in to the Holte suite today....we then paid £8.99 for a very average full english breakfast and then paid well over the odds for drinks for a couple of hours.......I would welcome a more value for money match day experience but it seems that as football fans (especially in the PL) we should expect to pay premium prices for average products
Had a chat this evening with someone who was in the Holte Suite on Saturday and he had a bacon, egg and tomato bap for £3.50 and he said it was cack. He reckoned the bap itself was so bad it was probably left over from last season.
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I can see Hip Flasks becoming vogue again .
Never been out of vogue on our row! It's a hooch den
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This thread reminded me to look up the proper location of the Sacred Heart club-I assume the lads who asked me on Saturday weren't going to the church.
Luckily for them, I had it nearly right.
However, I panned out on Google maps, satellite view, to see the ground and the pitch looks er...greyer than it did on Saturday ;)
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The Holte Suite should be free to all Season Ticket Holders in my opinion with the option to buy the programme on the door. £2 for a child is terrible, Would like to try the Tavern but really cant jusitfy £3 entry per person and £3.90 a peroni, doesnt matter how nice it is inside.
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For those sort of prices, you'd be better off staying in the Briar Rose (or a City Centre pub) till about half 2 and jumping a Taxi to the ground.
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I think it's a rip off charging £3 in and then £4 a pint.
They do a season card for £30 which works out roughly half the price.
They also do a parking membership for £75 a season, which is better value, as it's less than £4 for parking and entry to the pub.
I just think it's wrong to charge entry if the beer is expensive as well.
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Used to go in the harriers with Chico Hamilton before and sometimes after matches a few years back. That was a good football ground pub, good mix of home and away fans, cheapish beer, tolerant owners and only 10 mins walk to VP.
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Used to go in the harriers with Chico Hamilton before and sometimes after matches a few years back. That was a good football ground pub, good mix of home and away fans, cheapish beer, tolerant owners and only 10 mins walk to VP.
I also used to use the Harriers ...great little boozer, as you say a good mix of home and away fans, when that shut moved to the Swan & Mitre.
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The Holte Suite should be free to all Season Ticket Holders in my opinion with the option to buy the programme on the door. £2 for a child is terrible, Would like to try the Tavern but really cant jusitfy £3 entry per person and £3.90 a peroni, doesnt matter how nice it is inside.
Agree. Season ticket holders in free and non STs a pound (if they had to charge but I still don't agree with it in principle) would be my suggestion. As it is I will continue to drink in town before and have a couple in the Holte after the game when it's free in.
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I wasn't impressed with the toilets
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You could have a drink at The Wellesley in Knightsbridge, Randy's favourite watering hole. £75 minimum charge then hail a black cab to B6.
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Flat pint, dirty glass. can't get the basics right.
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Interesting to hear that it was so busy on Saturday. If they can keep it up it will justify the £3 entry, but they won't be seeing me whilst they charge that much.
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Randy drinks in the Wellesley? I've not seen him yet but will keep an eye out during future fag breaks as I work next door.
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We normally catch AV1 but it wasn't running on Wednesday so I drove in and parked in lekky avenue. I walked past the Tavern going to the ground and it was about as busy as Wetherspoons on a wednesday evening. Walking back to the car I expected it to be six deep at the bar but there were barely six people in there. Looks like words gone round and its doomed to failure unless they do something about the admission price and the cost of a pint!
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I don't agree with the £3 in etc, but an evening LC game against Orient probably isn't the best time to judge their business model.
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It was a £1.00 on Wednesday night
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The £3 entry should surely include your first drink! Still it's so close to the ground I guess many will choose to pay it. Not for me I'm afraid. Would rather go into The Holte or even pay into The Lions Club at least you get a programme for that so it's effectively only £1 in (if you want a programme that is).
Looking at the fixture dicking about it's not a concern for me anyway til late October now .
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Went after the game. Still £3 to get in but what a beautiful building. It's massive inside and still to be finished. £3.75 for a carling but that's the world we live, £3.30 in a whetherspoons in town. So to be in a decent place with like minded people isn't the worse thing in the world.
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Don't drink carling but mates do, fairly sure it's £2.55 in weatherspoons Solihull and hogs head next door .
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Don't drink carling but mates do, fairly sure it's £2.55 in weatherspoons Solihull and hogs head next door .
Working in solihull I would think you are wrong but anyway it was £3.30 a pint in town today so not surprised on paying what we did by the ground this evening.
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Still charging £3 after the game? That's a bigger piss take than pre match. They can definitely jog on.
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Don't drink carling but mates do, fairly sure it's £2.55 in weatherspoons Solihull and hogs head next door .
Working in solihull I would think you are wrong but anyway it was £3.30 a pint in town today so not surprised on paying what we did by the ground this evening.
last time I was in the white swan ( wetherspoons in solihull) carling was over £3 a pint...... Though glad to advise Amstel is only £2.99 there
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Impressed with the free pork bap..
Also, and I agree that in this modern enlightened age these things should be of no significance in shape or form what so ever, all the bar maids are easy on the eye.
Can't vouch for the fizzy pop lager but the Doom Bar was a decent pint.
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I enjoyed it, even at 3 quid in.
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Impressed with the free pork bap..
Also, and I agree that in this modern enlightened age these things should be of no significance in shape or form what so ever, all the bar maids are easy on the eye.
Can't vouch for the fizzy pop lager but the Doom Bar was a decent pint.
Fit barmaids was the MO of the Eddy so no surprise there.
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Still charging £3 after the game? That's a bigger piss take than pre match. They can definitely jog on.
Charging after the game as well is taking the piss slightly.
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We went to the Holte Suite for an hour after the game which is free to get in, then walked down to the Tavern and didn't get charged to get in. The pub itself is very nice indeed.
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I thought the pub looked great. Got served pretty quickly and there was plenty of room to shuffle about in.
Didn't have the pork bap on religious grounds.
PS. Ding dong.
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I thought the pub looked great. Got served pretty quickly and there was plenty of room to shuffle about in.
Didn't have the pork bap on religious grounds.
PS. Ding dong.
Is the Tavern built on an old church? Couldnt you have just eaten it outside?
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I thought the pub looked great. Got served pretty quickly and there was plenty of room to shuffle about in.
Didn't have the pork bap on religious grounds.
PS. Ding dong.
Is the Tavern built on an old church? Couldnt you have just eaten it outside?
But then he would have been looking at a church.
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Bar maids with their jugs hanging out and doom bar sounds like a good combination.
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Bar maids with their jugs hanging out and doom bar sounds like a good combination.
Is that their advertising campaign? Works for me.
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Bar maids with their jugs hanging out and doom bar sounds like a good combination.
Is that their advertising campaign? Works for me.
You said you wouldn't pay the £3!
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Bar maids with their jugs hanging out and doom bar sounds like a good combination.
Is that their advertising campaign? Works for me.
You said you wouldn't pay the £3!
I wont! I'm just a sucker for big jugs. It's got windows in it hasn't it?
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Bar maids with their jugs hanging out and doom bar sounds like a good combination.
Is that their advertising campaign? Works for me.
You said you wouldn't pay the £3!
I wont! I'm just a sucker for big jugs. It's got windows in it hasn't it?
Tha'll see naat frum winduz soft lad!