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Title: 20 years ago today
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on March 27, 2014, 09:07:25 AM
Villa's cup fill it up
Title: Re: 20 years ago today
Post by: Dr Butler on March 27, 2014, 09:28:15 AM
a brilliant day and stopped them winning the domestic treble !

""where's your treble gone""
Title: Re: 20 years ago today
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on March 27, 2014, 09:33:19 AM

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Title: Re: 20 years ago today
Post by: Damo70 on March 27, 2014, 09:52:45 AM
Great day. I was so hyped up I didn't go to bed the night before. It was a few weeks before I moved out of my parents house and I worked my way through the drinks cabinet. The first and last time in my life I ever drank Cinzano. I went down the road for a newspaper at about seven. Despite staying up all night drinking I felt fresh as a daisy.
Title: Re: 20 years ago today
Post by: flybo on March 27, 2014, 10:09:40 AM
Do not go but watched it with some friends one a manure fan " You are only here to make up the numbers" Yes we made them up Villa 3 manure 1 lol
Title: Re: 20 years ago today
Post by: robbo1874 on March 27, 2014, 10:34:36 AM
Great day. I was so hyped up I didn't go to bed the night before. It was a few weeks before I moved out of my parents house and I worked my way through the drinks cabinet. The first and last time in my life I ever drank Cinzano. I went down the road for a newspaper at about seven. Despite staying up all night drinking I felt fresh as a daisy.

Nice post damo. I was a filthy student at the time in north London. Had been on the mick mills the night before and wasn't the freshest the next day, also had tonsilitis. One of the best days of my Villa supporting career though-  first villa wembley final. What a day! Rest of the night is a bit hazy after leaving the ground! Big Ron, where's ya jewellery gone?
Title: Re: 20 years ago today
Post by: fbriai on March 27, 2014, 10:40:59 AM
What a day! We had lost four on the bounce going into it as well, hadn't we? No-one gave us a chance.

I was sat way up behind the goal we were playing towards in the first-half. Cyrille Regis was sat a few seats away.

Coming after the Tranmere semi-final and then being followed by the win over Inter a few months later, that was an amazing time to be following the Villa.
Title: Re: 20 years ago today
Post by: Damo70 on March 27, 2014, 01:04:20 PM
What a day! We had lost four on the bounce going into it as well, hadn't we? No-one gave us a chance.

I was sat way up behind the goal we were playing towards in the first-half. Cyrille Regis was sat a few seats away.

Coming after the Tranmere semi-final and then being followed by the win over Inter a few months later, that was an amazing time to be following the Villa.

You must have been very close to me as I could see Regis from where I was sitting but I can't quite remember exactly where he was in relation to me. Definitely to my left but more than a few seats away and may have been a row in front or behind. I punched the bloke in front of me in the back of the neck whilst attempting to to Bosnich's job for him when we were under pressure at 2-1. I apologised but I don't think he even felt it much everyone was so hyped up at that point.
Title: Re: 20 years ago today
Post by: fbriai on March 27, 2014, 02:07:09 PM
What a day! We had lost four on the bounce going into it as well, hadn't we? No-one gave us a chance.

I was sat way up behind the goal we were playing towards in the first-half. Cyrille Regis was sat a few seats away.

Coming after the Tranmere semi-final and then being followed by the win over Inter a few months later, that was an amazing time to be following the Villa.

You must have been very close to me as I could see Regis from where I was sitting but I can't quite remember exactly where he was in relation to me. Definitely to my left but more than a few seats away and may have been a row in front or behind. I punched the bloke in front of me in the back of the neck whilst attempting to to Bosnich's job for him when we were under pressure at 2-1. I apologised but I don't think he even felt it much everyone was so hyped up at that point.

It sounds as though we were sat very close to one another! He was to my left, a few seats away - maybe ten or so, I don't remember clearly - and, I think, one row behind.
Title: Re: 20 years ago today
Post by: The Left Side on March 27, 2014, 03:39:01 PM
Great day out, on a par with Tranmere because we beat the so called Treble winners, as mentioned earlier we were told Manure just had to show up. So many superb memories and the save that Bozzie made at 2-1 was top drawer, utv!
Title: Re: 20 years ago today
Post by: usav on March 27, 2014, 04:10:12 PM
Something that nobody has mentioned really, is the fact that we genuinely had a bit of a rivalry going with ManUre back then.   They had only just pipped us to the league the year before and our games around that time were always very close.  So yes, although we were underdogs, we weren't coming at it from a no-hope situation, we belonged there and had the players to do them some damage - and so it proved.
Title: Re: 20 years ago today
Post by: Richard E on March 27, 2014, 04:20:45 PM
I always remember from the commentary Brian Moore and Kevin Keegan moaning about Kanchelskis being sent off - for stopping a certain goal with his hands in the last minute of a Cup Final when the result was on a knife edge!
Title: Re: 20 years ago today
Post by: Richard E on March 27, 2014, 04:27:02 PM
As the free kick Deano scored from was being lined up when it was still 1-0 the bloke next to us turned to us and said "If this goes in I'm going to come in my trousers."

Next thing that happened was the ball hit the back of the net. We never found out if he was telling the truth - although we did ask. 
Title: Re: 20 years ago today
Post by: glasses on March 27, 2014, 04:31:14 PM
I always remember from the commentary Brian Moore and Kevin Keegan moaning about Kanchelskis being sent off - for stopping a certain goal with his hands in the last minute of a Cup Final when the result was on a knife edge!
Me too.

I also remember Keegan saying something about us struggling to get into the game or something, just as Atkinson was put through to score!
Title: Re: 20 years ago today
Post by: Pete3206 on March 27, 2014, 04:31:29 PM
I liked how Brian Moore described Man Utd's play as some sort of exhibition performance, seconds before we scored the first goal.

What a magnificent weekend that was.
Title: Re: 20 years ago today
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on March 27, 2014, 04:55:11 PM
Pre-internet panic for tickets as soon as we beat Tranmere in the semi. Trying to cobble together enough season tickets and ticket stubs to qualify for tickets, I must’ve spent a week’s wages on clubcall for info on ticket allocations.

What a day!

I was living in Salford at the time and the day after the final I went to work in Manchester city centre o the bus with my “Salford Villa” union jack over my shoulders ( a piss-taking nod towards all the “Brummie reds” flags you used to see around the time). Surprised I didn’t get lynched.
Title: Re: 20 years ago today
Post by: lovejoy on March 27, 2014, 06:10:35 PM
Best day as a Villa fan ever. Sat near Gary Shaw who got serenaded at half time. I was sure Utd would get level once they pulled one back. No booze all day. I just didn't need it.
Title: Re: 20 years ago today
Post by: NatP on March 27, 2014, 07:46:28 PM
Hadn't been to enough games for a legit ticket, my Dad came through with a couple of £48 tickets (Seem to remember the Tranmere stub says £4.50!). That remained my most expensive ticket for anything until the 2012 Olympics. Worth it though,  fantastic day!
Title: Re: 20 years ago today
Post by: class_of_82 on March 27, 2014, 08:05:00 PM
Came out of st Joseph's Irish social club just off wembley way about 6 of us and we bumped into a Salvation Army band tambourines and all.
So we just had to stop and join in as you do
They broke into the sung cum-by-yar my lord cum-by-yar then my mate Paul sabell(Holte ender in the sky now) sang Paul McGrath my lord Paul McGrath and the whole band joined in with us and that was the day the song was born we sang it in the ground and on the coach home afterwards.

 Lifted the cup
Treble stopped in it tracks
And a great song was born
Title: Re: 20 years ago today
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 27, 2014, 08:27:24 PM
I didn't have a ST that season because of work so had to go on one of those coach, ticket and hotel room things. Hotel was in Picadilly and was mainly Manure fans. We actually spent a couple of hours drinking and chatting in one of the Hotel bars to one group who were Mancs and they were decent lads. While we were out getting food it kicked off big style in the hotel when a load of Villa steamed it and one of the blokes we had been chatting to had his head split open. We had seen a load of police cars and vans go screaming past where we were eating and had joked they were probably heading to our hotel, sadly they were. Thought we were going to get a right kicking when we walked back in as the Mancs were massively pissed, but fair play, the ones we'd been talking to earlier calmed them down and said we were alright.

And it seemed moody all night around the parts of London we wandered around with not much love lost between the fans. One of the lads on the coach was stabbed by a Manure fan while out on the night.
Title: Re: 20 years ago today
Post by: Exeter 77 on March 27, 2014, 08:44:16 PM
I sorted out the tickets and my mate sorted out the travel. For some reason the 'coach' he had booked us on turned out to be one of a fleet of WMT double decker buses which we had to have a whip round to park in the Wembley coach park. After the game a Man U fan who was about 15 ran up to us, smacked me in the chest and then ran off.

My greatest memory of the game was right on the final whistle. Neil Cox turned to us and just screamed with joy.
Title: Re: 20 years ago today
Post by: Pat McMahon on March 27, 2014, 10:45:07 PM
I always remember from the commentary Brian Moore and Kevin Keegan moaning about Kanchelskis being sent off - for stopping a certain goal with his hands in the last minute of a Cup Final when the result was on a knife edge!
Me too.

I also remember Keegan saying something about us struggling to get into the game or something, just as Atkinson was put through to score!

My recollection is that Keegan said "you just get a feeling that Villa are coming into this game" a minute or two before we scored. Keegan was also commentator for Tranmere and Inter so I thought of him as a good luck charm.
Title: Re: 20 years ago today
Post by: Tucson Villain on March 27, 2014, 11:02:42 PM
My last game before moving to the United States.
What a last game!
Title: Re: 20 years ago today
Post by: Godfrey Brian on March 28, 2014, 09:34:14 AM
Best day as a Villa fan ever. Sat near Gary Shaw who got serenaded at half time. I was sure Utd would get level once they pulled one back. No booze all day. I just didn't need it.

We were near Gary Shaw as well. One magnificent occasion-we were underdogs but you just knew we would give them a fight. Their supporters were as arrogant as ever so it was great hearing their excuses in the car park afterwards! Met Denis Law on the way out who was pretty honest about who was the best on the day to his credit. Also made a prediction which I'm still reminded of that Graham Fenton would, one day , become the mainstay of the England midfield!
Title: Re: 20 years ago today
Post by: Scully on March 28, 2014, 09:36:51 AM
We were in a pub in Ruislip before the match. I was with a mate who lived down there and had just become a father. His missus turned up at the pub with the baby dressed in Claret & Blue. An old fella was passing us and he stopped to admire the baby and gave him a pound to bring luck to the Villa.
Some lads heard this and decided they should do the same. Before you knew it, all the Villa fans in the pub were lining up to hand over a quid. My mates missus left the pub with 120 pound coins in her handbag.
Great memories, great day.
Title: Re: 20 years ago today
Post by: Damo70 on March 28, 2014, 09:41:30 AM
What a day! We had lost four on the bounce going into it as well, hadn't we? No-one gave us a chance.

I was sat way up behind the goal we were playing towards in the first-half. Cyrille Regis was sat a few seats away.

Coming after the Tranmere semi-final and then being followed by the win over Inter a few months later, that was an amazing time to be following the Villa.

You must have been very close to me as I could see Regis from where I was sitting but I can't quite remember exactly where he was in relation to me. Definitely to my left but more than a few seats away and may have been a row in front or behind. I punched the bloke in front of me in the back of the neck whilst attempting to to Bosnich's job for him when we were under pressure at 2-1. I apologised but I don't think he even felt it much everyone was so hyped up at that point.

It sounds as though we were sat very close to one another! He was to my left, a few seats away - maybe ten or so, I don't remember clearly - and, I think, one row behind.

I reckon I was sat about half a dozen seats to your right!
Title: Re: 20 years ago today
Post by: Damo70 on March 28, 2014, 09:43:38 AM
I always remember from the commentary Brian Moore and Kevin Keegan moaning about Kanchelskis being sent off - for stopping a certain goal with his hands in the last minute of a Cup Final when the result was on a knife edge!

Had a big row with my bluenose old man about that when I got back from the game and it simmered for weeks. Should have let him off as it was a cup final and so late on and the penalty was enough punishment he reckoned.
Title: Re: 20 years ago today
Post by: Deano's Mullet on March 28, 2014, 07:26:28 PM
I remember Keegan saying "this is incredible, Aston Villa are doing to Man United, what Man United normally do to teams."
Title: Re: 20 years ago today
Post by: big 1st serve on March 29, 2014, 07:11:50 AM
 Great time pre-match at the Green Man, unlike 1996,

 We sat towards the back of our end, and remember the bruised legs we  all seemed to have the next day after falling over those bench seats 3 times!

Watched the game again recently,& about half way through the 1st half, Andy Townsend makes the type of tackle on Cantona which just makes you think ,We,re up for this!
Title: Re: 20 years ago today
Post by: supertom on March 29, 2014, 10:52:04 AM
My favourite memory as a Villa fan so far, and probably won't be surpassed. Football was just more exciting in those days and more competitive. Great to be the underdogs but win so well. I was jumping round my living room like MON on crack.
Title: Re: 20 years ago today
Post by: olaftab on March 29, 2014, 11:03:15 AM
The amazing thing was having finished second to them in the League the previous season we had deteriorated and they were on a huge upwards slope (no offence intended towards our fans from the east) that by the time cup final came around the media saw it as a walk in the park for them. It turned out to be nothing but and we totally dominated the game. One of the best days ever.
Title: Re: 20 years ago today
Post by: tomd2103 on March 31, 2014, 01:25:39 AM
As a teenager, it was my first trip to Wembley and I couldn't get over how bad the seating and the view was!!  We didn't know Kanchelskis had been sent off until we heard it on the news on the way home.  Great day though and a great performance against, Schmeichel aside, a full stength Manchester United team that went on to win the double that year.  Just watching that clip again, our first goal was a very good one.   
Title: Re: 20 years ago today
Post by: Deano's Mullet on March 31, 2014, 08:27:57 AM
This and the Tranmere semi remain the peak for me as a Villa fan having not been around during the early 80s successes. Coming up from the south I don't remember seeing too many other Villa fans on the train that day, 1-2 Man United fans though and it seemed like more and more of them got on the train the nearer we came into London. At Victoria for the change to Wembley I honestly thought I was in Manchester, the multi-accented bastards were everywhere and pretty smug although one or two weren't too confident saying they remembered our title tussle the year before and how we'd beat them twice that season and come close in the epic at Villa Park in August. At Wembley however, different story as it felt we far outnumbered them. Didn't we sell more of our tickets and have more supporters in the ground than them?
Anyway onto the match. I couldn't get to the 96 Final so this is the only time I have seen the Villa at Wembley and that makes it even more special. Despite having a really really good team we went into the final on a poor run of results and looked like cannon fodder to Man United's best team ever  and despite a lot of possession from them at times we really did look comfortable and boss the game on our own terms. Dalian and Deano on top form, Townsend and Richardson outmatching Keane and Ince, Tony Daley scaring Paul Parker shitless everytime he bombed down the wing. I still get that spine tingling feeling everytime I see Bosnich turn Hughes' volley round the post preventing their equalizer. Lovely to see BFR give Fenton a chance in midfield as by that time it looked like he'd said to hell with playing youth players. Little did we know that 9 months later our trophy winning manager would be sacked due to poor results. Only could happen to the Villa.
Title: Re: 20 years ago today
Post by: Damo70 on March 31, 2014, 08:56:18 AM
The poorer we played in the build up to the final the more convinced I was we would turn it on come the game. And BFR had previous as a winning underdog at Wembley in '85 and '91.
Title: Re: 20 years ago today
Post by: Richard E on March 31, 2014, 09:02:09 AM
My favourite memory as a Villa fan so far, and probably won't be surpassed. Football was just more exciting in those days and more competitive. Great to be the underdogs but win so well. I was jumping round my living room like MON on crack.

The 2018 Champions League Final will surpass it. Winning it for the 3rd year in a row is going to feel so sweet.
Title: Re: 20 years ago today
Post by: ez on March 31, 2014, 08:35:06 PM
I also remember seeing Gary Shaw there. Everyone started singing the Gary Shaw song and pointing towards him and he stood on his seat and waved to everyone getting big cheers.

For me that first goal seemed to take ages to cross the line. Steve Bruce was chasing it and for just a microsecond i thought he might get it. Bosnich making a good save at 2-1. Shaun Teale magnificent in defence. Cantona ineffective.

I still have my ticket stub. Ticket price £37.00. I'd forgotten the match started at 5pm.
Title: Re: 20 years ago today
Post by: Villa in Denmark on March 31, 2014, 09:04:14 PM
I also remember seeing Gary Shaw there. Everyone started singing the Gary Shaw song and pointing towards him and he stood on his seat and waved to everyone getting big cheers.

For me that first goal seemed to take ages to cross the line. Steve Bruce was chasing it and for just a microsecond i thought he might get it. Bosnich making a good save at 2-1. Shaun Teale magnificent in defence. Cantona ineffective.

I still have my ticket stub. Ticket price £37.00. I'd forgotten the match started at 5pm.

I remember Townsend absolutely clattering him early in the first half.  Totally legit challenge, took the ball clean as a whistle, just that Cantona's foot was right behind the ball as Townsend went through the ball. After seeming to land from about 5 foot up in the air, he hid for the rest of the game.
Title: Re: 20 years ago today
Post by: Deano's Mullet on March 31, 2014, 10:00:26 PM
Always remember a lovely bit of skill from Deano in the second half, he nipped into intercept a pass to Gary Pallister,  he kind of knocked it on with the outside of his boot and sped off with it at 100 miles an hour. Always remember watching it back on the telly Brian Moore got very excited about that. Also remember Shaun Teale played the entire match with a broken nose I believe, Bosnich caught him with a punch during training didn't he?
Title: Re: 20 years ago today
Post by: Damo70 on April 01, 2014, 08:25:53 AM
Always remember a lovely bit of skill from Deano in the second half, he nipped into intercept a pass to Gary Pallister,  he kind of knocked it on with the outside of his boot and sped off with it at 100 miles an hour. Always remember watching it back on the telly Brian Moore got very excited about that. Also remember Shaun Teale played the entire match with a broken nose I believe, Bosnich caught him with a punch during training didn't he?

And Paul McGrath had what was described as some kind of virus in his shoulder that meant he had to have painkilling injections and his one arm was basically useless. He was still suffering from it when he put in that great display against Italy in the World Cup too.
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