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Title: Spring Classics 2014
Post by: Jon Crofts on March 03, 2014, 07:18:43 PM
Finally Spring has sprung and the classics are here.

Next weekend Paris-Nice starts 9-16 then it's Milan - San Remo then Paris - Roubaix and the daddy of them all, Liege - Bastogne - Liege before the first big grand tour starts in Italy.

Wiggins has targeted a couple of the classics in his beat up to Le Tour and the inevitable showdown with Froome.

On a personal note I'm doing Paris - Roubaix the day before the pros, hopefully I'll have finished before they start.

What's your favourite of the classics?
Title: Re: Spring Classics 2014
Post by: SteveN on March 03, 2014, 07:56:40 PM
Tour of Flanders, Liege - Bastogne - Liege, Paris - Roubaix, they are all great.
Title: Re: Spring Classics 2014
Post by: lovejoy on March 03, 2014, 08:53:13 PM
They are all great but. I enjoy the short steep climbs of the Amstel Gold race and the drunk Dutch fans.
Title: Re: Spring Classics 2014
Post by: Percy Flage on March 03, 2014, 09:04:25 PM
Very happy about all of this!
Roubaix and Flanders for me but love them all.
Dan Martin's win in L-B-L last year was a season highlight.

This year, Boonan's looking like he may have the form to challenge the magnificent Cancellara and hopefully Sagan's improvements are continuing, throw in Wiggins and there's some great racing.
Title: Re: Spring Classics 2014
Post by: Dave Cooper please on March 04, 2014, 09:18:49 AM
Which is the one with all the cobbles, I love that one.
Title: Re: Spring Classics 2014
Post by: Eckybloke on March 04, 2014, 09:32:45 AM
On a personal note I'm doing Paris - Roubaix the day before the pros, hopefully I'll have finished before they start.


Are you going to go down the middle of the road at Arneberg?

:D
Title: Re: Spring Classics 2014
Post by: Jon Crofts on March 04, 2014, 10:39:09 AM
On a personal note I'm doing Paris - Roubaix the day before the pros, hopefully I'll have finished before they start.


Are you going to go down the middle of the road at Arneberg?

:D

The Arenberg Forest cobbles are the 12th set of cobbles on the route, by then I expect to have no fillings in my teeth or skin on my elbows and knees and there's only 16 more cobbled sections to go after that.  2 maybe even 3 layers of bar tape, some scabby old rims and some bullet proof tyres, there's not a lot else I can do really.  Best tip I've seen so far is ride as fast as you can and you'll glide over the cobbles.
Title: Re: Spring Classics 2014
Post by: Eckybloke on March 04, 2014, 11:22:44 AM
Are you doing the whole thing?  Let us know how you get on, it's something I quite fancy doing - just to say I've done it!
Title: Re: Spring Classics 2014
Post by: Jon Crofts on March 04, 2014, 12:09:42 PM
Almost the whole thing, I'm doing the 170 km route of the Paris Roubaix challenge.

http://www.sport.be/parisroubaix/2014/eng/parcours/maps/groot.html

There are 3 routes possible.

http://www.sport.be/parisroubaix/2014/eng/parcours/
Title: Re: Spring Classics 2014
Post by: aj2k77 on March 04, 2014, 04:40:44 PM
Brilliant documentary you might have seen before about the Paris-Roubaix. If you haven't take a look.

http://www.veoh.com/watch/v20924403zBshk7AE?h1=A+sunday+in+hell (http://www.veoh.com/watch/v20924403zBshk7AE?h1=A+sunday+in+hell)
Title: Re: Spring Classics 2014
Post by: Jon Crofts on March 11, 2014, 08:19:05 PM
Weather looks stunning for Paris Nice today, great finish today at Magny Cours race circuit, head to the mountains tomorrow with Geraint Thomas well placed in 5th.
Title: Re: Spring Classics 2014
Post by: Jon Crofts on March 13, 2014, 07:21:52 PM
Ooooooooh get her.


Title: Re: Spring Classics 2014
Post by: Jon Crofts on April 03, 2014, 08:32:45 AM
Tour Of Flanders on Sunday, Wiggins rides for Team Sky in place of Ian Stannard who's broken his back and was amongst the favourites for the Belgian classic. Looks like a day on the sofa with Eurosport methinks.
Title: Re: Spring Classics 2014
Post by: lovejoy on April 03, 2014, 08:45:30 AM
Cancellara?
Title: Re: Spring Classics 2014
Post by: SteveN on April 03, 2014, 01:42:06 PM
I think Sagan might be a better bet than Cancellara but Omega Pharma appear to have a very strong team with several potential winners.
Title: Re: Spring Classics 2014
Post by: Jon Crofts on April 03, 2014, 07:24:42 PM
Boonen or an outsider Geraint Thomas
Title: Re: Spring Classics 2014
Post by: N'Rexy on April 04, 2014, 07:54:09 PM
Sep Vanmarcke will be good at Flanders. Cancellara,Boonen, Sagan may well mark each other to death. Brad will get off at the first feed.

And loads of crashes. Apparently lots of riders are on tramadol at the moment and it's making them dopey...

John, I have done the Roubaix. Good luck. Its effing horrible.

Roubaix and LBL are my faves. I'll be at them both this year.
Title: Re: Spring Classics 2014
Post by: Percy Flage on April 06, 2014, 11:41:49 AM
Aside from the obvious 2, Stybar at 25/1 (!)  Terpstra and Rolands for today
Title: Re: Spring Classics 2014
Post by: N'Rexy on April 06, 2014, 11:59:48 AM
Terpstra will have to work for Boonen but will be a good shout if Boonen isn't in contention. Crashes galore already. Van Summerens crash looked really nasty. First go up the Kwaremont now.
Title: Re: Spring Classics 2014
Post by: Jon Crofts on April 06, 2014, 02:11:52 PM
Ouch!  3 into a lamppost.
Title: Re: Spring Classics 2014
Post by: SteveN on April 06, 2014, 03:55:02 PM
Spartacus wins!
Title: Re: Spring Classics 2014
Post by: Jon Crofts on April 06, 2014, 05:35:39 PM
Great finish, 4 very able athletes at the front and then boom, up steps Spartacus and blows them all away from 200 odd metres out.

Wiggins finished as well.
Title: Re: Spring Classics 2014
Post by: SteveN on April 06, 2014, 07:40:38 PM
Tremendous performance by Lizzie Armistead to finish second yesterday.
Title: Re: Spring Classics 2014
Post by: N'Rexy on April 06, 2014, 08:31:33 PM
Great ride from Fab. Wiggins surprised me! Armitsted leads the world points in the women. Roubaix next week! Going to be immense.

Good luck with the ride John.
Title: Re: Spring Classics 2014
Post by: Jon Crofts on April 06, 2014, 09:43:22 PM
Thanks, getting a niggly right knee just when I don't need it, changed shoes recently I think the cleats are out on the pair I wore yesterday and have put a strain on my ligaments, hopefully a days rest tomorrow will help.
Title: Re: Spring Classics 2014
Post by: lovejoy on April 07, 2014, 09:32:33 AM
Cancellara?

Thank you very much.
Title: Re: Spring Classics 2014
Post by: Eckybloke on April 11, 2014, 09:56:57 AM
How's the knee Jon?

All psyched up?  I have found a local cobbled segment on Strava titled "Hell of the North".  0.2 mile 6% gradient, can't be easier than what you're putting yourself through!

:D

Best of luck!
Title: Re: Spring Classics 2014
Post by: N'Rexy on April 11, 2014, 08:57:59 PM
Wiggo is at long odds for this. If he makes the selection at 70-50k out he isn't a crazy bet. He is the best time trialist there and has 2 top lads to ride for him in Thomas and Boasen-Hagen. Cancellara will be marked to death and Boonen isn't properly fit. I has 20 quid and 25-1 on him just now.
Title: Re: Spring Classics 2014
Post by: Percy Flage on April 12, 2014, 08:51:59 AM
Other than Belgians or Swiss I'll say Stybar (again) he was there last year before being fetched off, proving that 'anything' can happen, and only came unstuck on the climbs last week.

Kristoff has the power to drive over the cobbles and has shown he's strong over distance and can kick.....
Title: Re: Spring Classics 2014
Post by: Jon Crofts on April 12, 2014, 06:55:46 PM
I feel like I've been beaten up by a gang of yobbos.  Never again.
Title: Re: Spring Classics 2014
Post by: N'Rexy on April 12, 2014, 10:42:33 PM
Horrible isn't it. I was hating it after the first few sectors.
Title: Re: Spring Classics 2014
Post by: Jon Crofts on April 13, 2014, 09:19:26 AM
Did you do it yesterday?
Title: Re: Spring Classics 2014
Post by: N'Rexy on April 13, 2014, 07:29:28 PM
No. 2 years ago. Was going to do Flanders as well but roubaix put me off. Today was epic. Best edition in a few years in my view. Fair play to wiggins, He made the selection. Terpstra saves Omega Pharmas season!
Title: Re: Spring Classics 2014
Post by: Jon Crofts on April 13, 2014, 08:46:22 PM
Great race, let down by the piss poor Eurosport coverage at the end.
Title: Re: Spring Classics 2014
Post by: lovejoy on April 14, 2014, 06:45:23 AM
Great race, let down by the piss poor Eurosport coverage at the end.

Yes, was difficult to follow and Carlton Kirby comes from the school of commentators where making any noise is better than silence.
Title: Re: Spring Classics 2014
Post by: N'Rexy on April 14, 2014, 09:28:34 PM
Carlton is a tool. Rib Hatch was commentating on the red button BBC. Apparently he was much better.
Title: Re: Spring Classics 2014
Post by: N'Rexy on April 20, 2014, 09:11:05 PM
Gilbert won the Amstel today. Not a great race but his team (BMC) rode it well tactically. Too many big guns knocking around this week for me to believe that he'll win the Liege on sunday but he looked really good today. All the major GC boys want to win Liege so expect Nibali to feature and Garmin to have a real go. Sadly I think Valverde will win it. The minging doping git. I am off to Belgium on Wednesday morning for the Fleche Wallone on Wednesday and then Liege Sunday. My favourite week of the year, the Ardennes week.
Title: Re: Spring Classics 2014
Post by: lovejoy on April 20, 2014, 10:10:04 PM
Yes, great attack at exactly the right time by Gilbert today, getting his form of a few years ago back. Can't see him winning the 3 again. Kiatkowski has looked strong.
Title: Re: Spring Classics 2014
Post by: N'Rexy on April 22, 2014, 11:06:39 PM
So Sky have got their GC team out tomorrow. Kennaugh is protected man. No chance tomorrow but if they ride well on sunday they might be in with a shout. The Liege is basically a nails mountain stage so GC riders do well.

Still can't see beyond Valverde. Sadly...
Title: Re: Spring Classics 2014
Post by: SteveN on April 23, 2014, 02:52:46 PM
Valvarde wins Flèche Wallonne ---boooooo hissss.  I do not like Valvarde.

Dan Martin second, Michal Kwiatkowski third.
Title: Re: Spring Classics 2014
Post by: N'Rexy on April 23, 2014, 05:57:25 PM
I agree. The cheating so and so.
 Our own Brummie Dan looked good though. He must be in with a really good shout for Sunday.
Title: Re: Spring Classics 2014
Post by: N'Rexy on April 25, 2014, 10:16:13 PM
LBL on sunday. Dan Martin vs Valverde. Get the panda out for Dan!
Title: Re: Spring Classics 2014
Post by: lovejoy on April 25, 2014, 10:44:00 PM
Valverde is a teat cyclist but a shit human being.
Title: Re: Spring Classics 2014
Post by: Jon Crofts on April 27, 2014, 03:57:26 PM
Poor old Dan Martin, 290kms to fall at the last corner.
Title: Re: Spring Classics 2014
Post by: SteveN on April 29, 2014, 10:25:39 AM
Not exactly a Spring Classic but have watched the final kilometres of stages 1 & 2 of the Tour of Turkey.  No Kittel but Cavendish looked pretty impressive winning both by a bike length.
Title: Re: Spring Classics 2014
Post by: Dave Cooper please on April 29, 2014, 12:07:58 PM
Yes, Cavendish looks right back on form after his illness.
Title: Re: Spring Classics 2014
Post by: lovejoy on April 29, 2014, 02:01:57 PM
Are many of the other top sprinters there?
Title: Re: Spring Classics 2014
Post by: Jon Crofts on April 29, 2014, 03:20:29 PM
No Kittel, Greipel or Sagan.
Title: Re: Spring Classics 2014
Post by: Eckybloke on April 29, 2014, 09:41:15 PM
I think Cav is just looking for time with his sprint train.  Hope he gets it sorted for Harrogate.
Title: Re: Spring Classics 2014
Post by: SteveN on April 29, 2014, 10:13:21 PM
No Kittel, Greipel or Sagan.

Greipel is there and Sagan is no real threat in a drag race. The OPQS lead out looked good with Trentin Renshaw and Pettachi.
Title: Re: Spring Classics 2014
Post by: Jon Crofts on April 30, 2014, 09:00:03 AM
You're right Greipel is there, just anonymous.
Title: Re: Spring Classics 2014
Post by: SteveN on April 30, 2014, 08:57:12 PM
Stage 4 win today for Cav. Text book lead out well worth a look on You Tube.
Title: Re: Spring Classics 2014
Post by: lovejoy on April 30, 2014, 10:04:35 PM
Is he doing the Giro this year?
Title: Re: Spring Classics 2014
Post by: SteveN on April 30, 2014, 10:54:53 PM
Is he doing the Giro this year?
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No.  Kittel's is though so interesting to see how that impacts on him in the Tour if he completes the Giro.
Title: Re: Spring Classics 2014
Post by: cdbearsfan on May 08, 2014, 05:09:13 PM
It says on BBC that Yorkshire is hosting the start of the Tour de France... how does that work do they have to cycle down the Channel Tunnel to get back to France?
Title: Re: Spring Classics 2014
Post by: Dave Cooper please on May 08, 2014, 06:52:45 PM
It says on BBC that Yorkshire is hosting the start of the Tour de France... how does that work do they have to cycle down the Channel Tunnel to get back to France?

They have to get on ferries but ride on those bikes from the gym all the way over.
Title: Re: Spring Classics 2014
Post by: Jon Crofts on May 08, 2014, 09:45:14 PM
Even farther to pedal if you're doing the Giro this year, starting in Ireland, is there a ferry from Rosslare to Rimini?
Title: Re: Spring Classics 2014
Post by: Jon Crofts on May 09, 2014, 10:04:37 PM
Dan Martin looks like he's run pure out of luck.  I blame the lead rider, straight over 2 wet drain covers.
Title: Re: Spring Classics 2014
Post by: lovejoy on May 10, 2014, 12:21:16 AM
Riders who fall off are generally pushing the button too much. Even if he hadn't fallen at liege Bastogne liege he would never have won.
Title: Re: Spring Classics 2014
Post by: N'Rexy on May 10, 2014, 07:11:29 AM
I am pretty sure that he would have won LBL had he stayed upright. Really bad luck for him. His team-mate Fernández also broke his collar bone in the same crash. I think there will be lots of crashes over the next two days, today especially.
Title: Re: Spring Classics 2014
Post by: Jon Crofts on August 14, 2014, 03:54:38 PM
Not a Spring Classic but have you seen the finish of the Eneco Tour today?  The crash at the end, poor old Zdenek Stybar of OPQ, that is going to hurt.  A lot.

Title: Re: Spring Classics 2014
Post by: Jon Crofts on August 18, 2014, 04:10:12 PM
Just what is going on here on the Eneco Tour?

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