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Title: Trouble last night
Post by: yorkavfc88 on January 30, 2014, 03:50:34 PM
What happened then?
Title: Re: Trouble last night
Post by: glasses on January 30, 2014, 03:57:37 PM
It was pwopa nawty
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Post by: Chipsticks on January 30, 2014, 03:59:04 PM
Nobheads and more Nobheads.
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Post by: ADVILLAFAN on January 30, 2014, 04:12:54 PM
I didn't see any trouble?

It's not like it's a proper derby.
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Post by: not3bad on January 30, 2014, 04:15:36 PM
Isn't it?
Title: Re: Trouble last night
Post by: Ads on January 30, 2014, 04:17:47 PM
The Albion escort was attacked near the church and there were some fisticuffs.
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Post by: cdbearsfan on January 30, 2014, 04:18:17 PM
No. Proper derbies aren't allowed to kick-off at 7.45pm.
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Post by: stubbsyandy on January 30, 2014, 04:19:14 PM
The Albion escort was attacked near the church and there were some fisticuffs.

Shouldn't bring your vintage car to football
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Post by: eamonn on January 30, 2014, 04:20:07 PM
Were there any afrikaan car reversing?
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Post by: Brend'Watkins on January 30, 2014, 04:32:54 PM
As I left the Swan & Mitre I seen the escorted Albion contingency being sent in the opposite direction of the Adventurers, a good move by the police.  They were escorted up the Lichfield Rd and I assume along Church Lane to re join Queens Rd/Witton Lane having by passed the Ads.  This allowed patrons of the Ads time to successfully organize the ambush (fisticuffs) by the Church.
Title: Re: Trouble last night
Post by: Breezeblock on January 30, 2014, 04:47:10 PM
There were a metric shitload of old bill outside the burger van next to the Aston Social last night. I thought they were all queueing up to buy butties.
Title: Re: Trouble last night
Post by: Ads on January 30, 2014, 04:49:26 PM
Disturbances outside the away ends with more fisticuffs too and also outside the Old Contemptables in town.

Fisticuffs being actually "I say young man, have some of this you rotter!" with punches traded, rather than the usual jumping up and down and arm waving while shouting "c'mon then!" pavement dancing.
Title: Re: Trouble last night
Post by: Legion on January 30, 2014, 04:56:31 PM
Idiots v Morons. Both lost.
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Post by: Witton Warrior on January 30, 2014, 05:24:24 PM
A minibus load came down the Broadway at 7:20 with a couple of Baggies shouting and banging the windows.
They had to stop at the "T" junction by the mosque and it looked like jolly japes were about to ensue.
Assault was halted by the sight of the trio of 70 year-old women looking rather shocked sitting in the rear seats.
Thankfully sense prevailed although the two "lads" on the bus seemed to think this was to do with their potential fighting prowess.

Nobs
Title: Re: Trouble last night
Post by: Chris Jameson on January 30, 2014, 05:51:53 PM
I'm going to wait for the book by a reformed hooligan in 30 years that remembers 'rumbles' in the tiniest detail to find out the real truth of what happened last night.

'There were 700 of their top lads tooled up and 3 of us....'
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Post by: Dave Clark Five on January 30, 2014, 07:07:19 PM
@WMPVillaFC: @82barney @murphavfc 3 arrests in total, and pockets of disorder at the end of the game
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Post by: Ads on January 30, 2014, 07:14:36 PM
They were Albion fans caught trying to tat the metal fences and gates on the North stand.
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 30, 2014, 07:27:00 PM
Claret everywhere. Before and after the game.
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Post by: Legion on January 30, 2014, 07:27:53 PM
They looked rather blue at the end of the game.
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Post by: avfc_1874 on January 30, 2014, 08:40:39 PM
Grown men getting angry over a game of football is sad but amusing.
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Post by: Legion on January 30, 2014, 08:41:26 PM
I find it quite pathetic myself.
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Post by: peter w on January 30, 2014, 08:52:04 PM
As I heard it their lads got on top early doors with one of our top boys helping them by accidentally slashing his ankle. Then our boys regrouped and give them a proper fucking hiding. But to fair to them we ain't running with many of the old school geezers now and you see more and more kids. Still one or two around but you think that if this firm is going to get the rep it deserves andgo and  take the piss at your Millwalls, we can't allow pussies like West Brom to take the piss in our yard. Anyway, apparently the Villa top boy had been giving it some all night and then stepped up to their biggest geezer and sent him flying. The other way! The Villa firm weren't going to give it away then. Fucking respect.

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Post by: Legion on January 30, 2014, 08:54:23 PM
Then they all went back to school today.
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Post by: peter w on January 30, 2014, 08:58:45 PM
Kids, teachers, dinner-ladies. All represented at the ruck.
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Post by: andyaston on January 30, 2014, 09:15:17 PM
Disturbances outside the away ends with more fisticuffs too and also outside the Old Contemptables in town.

Fisticuffs being actually "I say young man, have some of this you rotter!" with punches traded, rather than the usual jumping up and down and arm waving while shouting "c'mon then!" pavement dancing.

I went to the Old Contemptables thinking it would be ok pre match and the place was full of stone island and the old bill. Oh well went to the back part with my mate and sank a few, it soon cleared.
Title: Re: Trouble last night
Post by: Clampy on January 30, 2014, 09:18:36 PM
I saw numerous police charging down Witton Lane after the game. That's all I have to report.
Title: Re: Trouble last night
Post by: Legion on January 30, 2014, 09:19:47 PM
Bunch of thugs...
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Post by: Clampy on January 30, 2014, 09:22:27 PM
Bunch of thugs...

I stood there shaking my head and wagging my finger but it didn't do any good.

edit. And no, I'm not one of the Village People.
Title: Re: Trouble last night
Post by: pauliewalnuts on January 30, 2014, 09:23:09 PM
WENT OFF IN CRISPY DUCK LAST NIGHT.

UNCLE PENG STILL IN FUKING CUSTODY
Title: Re: Trouble last night
Post by: danlanza on January 30, 2014, 09:23:59 PM
As I heard it their lads got on top early doors with one of our top boys helping them by accidentally slashing his ankle. Then our boys regrouped and give them a proper fucking hiding. But to fair to them we ain't running with many of the old school geezers now and you see more and more kids. Still one or two around but you think that if this firm is going to get the rep it deserves andgo and  take the piss at your Millwalls, we can't allow pussies like West Brom to take the piss in our yard. Anyway, apparently the Villa top boy had been giving it some all night and then stepped up to their biggest geezer and sent him flying. The other way! The Villa firm weren't going to give it away then. Fucking respect.
You should write a book ;) ;)
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Post by: Mazrim on January 30, 2014, 09:24:21 PM
A load of fat blokes pretended to be hard and then went and lied about their exploits in the pub later. It was ever thus.
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Post by: danlanza on January 30, 2014, 09:29:45 PM
Were they top boys though ?
Did they avoid the OB ?
Were they PC ?
Did they meet at the OFS ?
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Post by: willywombat on January 30, 2014, 10:09:16 PM
PW got it spot on. We landed on their manor early doors and 30 of us took the piss in their HQ til Blind Tony got a call on the blower to say MH and 30 of their top lads were waiting at the BG. We bailed out of there and walked over and sure enough they were waiting halfway up the hill, we steamed up there and they had it away on their toes straight away. I thought, somethings not right and sure enough, we gets round the corner and there's 300 of them, game lads all tooled up and ready, it was right on top I tell you but no-one took a backward step and there was a nice little toe to toe for a good 5 minutes , ( respect to the lad who got cut ). Harry the Lithuanian put their top lad on his arse and we were just getting them on their toes when OB turned up in numbers. Scuttle tried to pull everyone together but OB steamed in with batons and nicked a few so we dived into the nearest boozer til it quietened down. I would have stayed but we've got double Geography on Wednesdays so I arranged to meet the rest of the firm later
Title: Re: Trouble last night
Post by: fbriai on January 30, 2014, 10:23:10 PM
The Albion escort was attacked near the church and there were some fisticuffs.

Shouldn't bring your vintage car to football

Ha ha! Very good!
Title: Re: Trouble last night
Post by: Richard on January 30, 2014, 10:36:15 PM
Why was there a mob of Albion over that side of Aston anyway, had they all appeared on the train from New Street or something ?
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Post by: Percy McCarthy on January 31, 2014, 12:03:36 AM
I saw their firm in Witton Lane at about ten to eight as I was on my way to the match. They were in a very bad mood. I sensed that either the OB or the Villa may have knocked them about a bit, they seemed so angry.

I sang the first line of "Oh I do like to be beside the seaside" and about half a dozen of them tried to escape the clutches of the police to get at me. I thought "I bet they don't know they're winning".
Title: Re: Trouble last night
Post by: Percy McCarthy on January 31, 2014, 12:06:30 AM
Why was there a mob of Albion over that side of Aston anyway, had they all appeared on the train from New Street or something ?

Yes. They 'plotted up' at The Sun On The Hill in town, and arrived by train at around 7.25. I get to observe shit like this when not selling the fanzine.
Title: Re: Trouble last night
Post by: Damo70 on January 31, 2014, 08:19:51 AM
There seemed to be a few of them loitering with intent when I was heading into the North stand about ten minutes before kick off but I didn't see or hear anything after the game. In fact I thought it was actually quieter than last year.
Title: Re: Trouble last night
Post by: stubbsyandy on January 31, 2014, 12:00:56 PM
Villa 4 Olbion 3
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Post by: not3bad on January 31, 2014, 12:14:38 PM
Why was there a mob of Albion over that side of Aston anyway, had they all appeared on the train from New Street or something ?

I did bump into the Strollers mob at New Street station, surrounded by police.  They were a noisy lot.  I tried not to gawp too much.
Title: Re: Trouble last night
Post by: Chris Smith on January 31, 2014, 12:51:10 PM
A load of fat blokes pretended to be hard and then went and lied about their exploits in the pub later. It was ever thus.

More like a load of youths who lied about it on the Internet after.

I saw the same group as Bren mentioned,  they were singing "you don't know what you're doing" at the coppers which seemed to be the exact opposite of the reality of the situation.
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Post by: lovejoy on January 31, 2014, 02:11:39 PM
All this begs the question why this match wasn't played on saturday. it was moved assuming all premier league teams would have at least one club in the 4th round. Why they assumed this in advance of the fixtures I do not know. Easier to police an afternoon match than an evening one.
Title: Re: Trouble last night
Post by: Pat McMahon on January 31, 2014, 02:36:35 PM
PW got it spot on. We landed on their manor early doors and 30 of us took the piss in their HQ til Blind Tony got a call on the blower to say MH and 30 of their top lads were waiting at the BG. We bailed out of there and walked over and sure enough they were waiting halfway up the hill, we steamed up there and they had it away on their toes straight away. I thought, somethings not right and sure enough, we gets round the corner and there's 300 of them, game lads all tooled up and ready, it was right on top I tell you but no-one took a backward step and there was a nice little toe to toe for a good 5 minutes , ( respect to the lad who got cut ). Harry the Lithuanian put their top lad on his arse and we were just getting them on their toes when OB turned up in numbers. Scuttle tried to pull everyone together but OB steamed in with batons and nicked a few so we dived into the nearest boozer til it quietened down. I would have stayed but we've got double Geography on Wednesdays so I arranged to meet the rest of the firm later

You are an intruder on this site from the Headhunters or the ICF. The fact that nobody in your firm took a slap gives the game away.
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Post by: dave.woodhall on January 31, 2014, 03:25:30 PM
All this begs the question why this match wasn't played on saturday. it was moved assuming all premier league teams would have at least one club in the 4th round. Why they assumed this in advance of the fixtures I do not know. Easier to police an afternoon match than an evening one.

It was part of a routine round of fixtures. There's always a midweek round this time of the year.
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Post by: gpbarr on January 31, 2014, 03:47:34 PM
Idiots v Morons. Both lost.

This.
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Post by: amfy on January 31, 2014, 06:56:53 PM
All this begs the question why this match wasn't played on saturday. it was moved assuming all premier league teams would have at least one club in the 4th round. Why they assumed this in advance of the fixtures I do not know. Easier to police an afternoon match than an evening one.

It was part of a routine round of fixtures. There's always a midweek round this time of the year.

They throw alotof stuff into that fixture computer - even down to seaside teams not being drawn at home on a bank holiday.
Surprising then that they wentfrom so many diaries on a week when the weekend was taken out. I suppose they may have thought in terms of cutting down travelling for fans on a set of evening fixtures.
Title: Re: Trouble last night
Post by: Hampshire Villa on January 31, 2014, 08:08:35 PM
wait for the Baggies DVD release, then you will be able to watch it! They seem to release a DVD for everything else.
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Post by: Ad@m on January 31, 2014, 08:52:02 PM
All this begs the question why this match wasn't played on saturday. it was moved assuming all premier league teams would have at least one club in the 4th round. Why they assumed this in advance of the fixtures I do not know. Easier to police an afternoon match than an evening one.

It was part of a routine round of fixtures. There's always a midweek round this time of the year.

They throw alotof stuff into that fixture computer - even down to seaside teams not being drawn at home on a bank holiday.
Surprising then that they wentfrom so many diaries on a week when the weekend was taken out. I suppose they may have thought in terms of cutting down travelling for fans on a set of evening fixtures.

They don't normally think about that judging by the amount of times we've been scheduled to play Southampton or Newcastle on an evening match.
Title: Re: Trouble last night
Post by: peter w on January 31, 2014, 10:04:43 PM
PW got it spot on. We landed on their manor early doors and 30 of us took the piss in their HQ til Blind Tony got a call on the blower to say MH and 30 of their top lads were waiting at the BG. We bailed out of there and walked over and sure enough they were waiting halfway up the hill, we steamed up there and they had it away on their toes straight away. I thought, somethings not right and sure enough, we gets round the corner and there's 300 of them, game lads all tooled up and ready, it was right on top I tell you but no-one took a backward step and there was a nice little toe to toe for a good 5 minutes , ( respect to the lad who got cut ). Harry the Lithuanian put their top lad on his arse and we were just getting them on their toes when OB turned up in numbers. Scuttle tried to pull everyone together but OB steamed in with batons and nicked a few so we dived into the nearest boozer til it quietened down. I would have stayed but we've got double Geography on Wednesdays so I arranged to meet the rest of the firm later

You are an intruder on this site from the Headhunters or the ICF. The fact that nobody in your firm took a slap gives the game away.

As we said we took their slap and come out on top. As ever.

Seriously though, Unlike them, and the other lot, we see them as finishing above us a sign that ultimately we've performed badly over the season. If we finish 16th and them 17th , it would nothing to us finish as top dogs in the midlands.

We are top dogs in the midlands. And whatever division, never mind,which position, we may be in at the end of the season that will never change.

That#'s why it's been good to have Liam on the other thread it reminds us, if we need reminding of how we see ourselves. And to be fair you can see how that rubs up at our nearest rivals. But as annoying as we must come across they must understand us. We're just so used to this. You lot having the odd good season or two, and Albion may well still finish above us, but when you do you and  the Noses sometimes, you treat it is the be all and end all. When we win we've won a derby. That's all.

Being the top togs in our area, and having most of us here still remembering when we were the best, our attitude won't change. We'reAston Villa we want and expect the very best. Yes we understand in todays footballing world how very unrealistic that is, but that's our mindset. We want to be top of the pile again.

So while beating the Albion is nice, and it is, that doesn't define our season, for their fans it probably will. It would eat away at them more than if he scoreline had have been in reverse. Well, maybe.
Title: Re: Trouble last night
Post by: lovejoy on January 31, 2014, 10:06:24 PM
Shouldn't the computer come up with more local matches on Boxing Day with no proper public transport?
Title: Re: Trouble last night
Post by: clash city rocker on January 31, 2014, 10:50:00 PM
apparently trouble started inside the ground when one of their lot spotted that there were only 400 calories in each of the villa park pies so they were having to buy 5 each to get their evening quota which led to an expensive night out..!!
Title: Re: Trouble last night
Post by: willywombat on January 31, 2014, 10:57:48 PM
PW got it spot on. We landed on their manor early doors and 30 of us took the piss in their HQ til Blind Tony got a call on the blower to say MH and 30 of their top lads were waiting at the BG. We bailed out of there and walked over and sure enough they were waiting halfway up the hill, we steamed up there and they had it away on their toes straight away. I thought, somethings not right and sure enough, we gets round the corner and there's 300 of them, game lads all tooled up and ready, it was right on top I tell you but no-one took a backward step and there was a nice little toe to toe for a good 5 minutes , ( respect to the lad who got cut ). Harry the Lithuanian put their top lad on his arse and we were just getting them on their toes when OB turned up in numbers. Scuttle tried to pull everyone together but OB steamed in with batons and nicked a few so we dived into the nearest boozer til it quietened down. I would have stayed but we've got double Geography on Wednesdays so I arranged to meet the rest of the firm later

You are an intruder on this site from the Headhunters or the ICF. The fact that nobody in your firm took a slap gives the game away.

Busted :(
Title: Re: Trouble last night
Post by: London Villan on February 01, 2014, 02:52:07 AM
How many times in football history have either of our local chums finished above us? 15 each in 125 years? How about both of them finishing above us? 10 times??
Title: Re: Trouble last night
Post by: yorkavfc88 on February 03, 2014, 02:58:47 PM
Lack of segregation Saturday caused a few problems near the end, coin thrown into Everton fans after their winner..bit of fisticuffs, few nicked.
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