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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Legion on October 22, 2013, 08:16:34 PM
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Saturday 26.10.13 3pm KO
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1-1
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6-2
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With the big man back I fancy us to get a win. 2-1, CB and Gabby for us, Baines with a free kick for them, Barry to get sent off
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CB will be a man on a mission to outgun Lukaku. 3-1 villa
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0-0
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Everton look considerably better at the moment. I think Lukaku is looking very sharp indeed, whilst obviously Benteke needs to get back into the swing somewhat.
I don't think we have the guile to win this one as they're pretty solid defensively. But we could get a draw. 1-1. Benteke and Lukaku in the battle of the Belgians.
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Can't predict. I am too busy plotting how to 1) find a bar in Paphos with the game on (is it on?). 2) convince she-who-has-not-had-leave-since-Spring to nip in for a quick sharpener before we look at the mosaics.
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6-2
Att. 17,500 (-ish). Live on TV. Oh for a repeat of that.
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2-1 defeat.
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Entertaining 2-2 draw Benteke x2 Lukaku, Barkley for them.
Time to bring Lowton back in and push Bacuna into midfield with Delph & Sylla.
UTV!!
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Can't predict. I am too busy plotting how to 1) find a bar in Paphos with the game on (is it on?). 2) convince she-who-has-not-had-leave-since-Spring to nip in for a quick sharpener before we look at the mosaics.
The mosaics really aren't all that. Can you not get her 90 mins in a spa?
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3-2 to us. Little to get the winner late on.
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Us 3 - 2 Them
Benteke (2) & Weimann. Lukaku and Suzanne Vega for them.
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Don't forget we're Everton's bogey team although they did batter us at VP last season. We went to Goodison when we were on our knees Feb time and really should've won.
I'd say 1-1 although worryingly Woberto has a decent record at VP. Think Gabby will score, he always seems to score against Everton and it's about time he got one this season.
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Can't predict. I am too busy plotting how to 1) find a bar in Paphos with the game on (is it on?). 2) convince she-who-has-not-had-leave-since-Spring to nip in for a quick sharpener before we look at the mosaics.
The mosaics really aren't all that. Can you not get her 90 mins in a spa?
I shall quote you on that (The mosaics can be viewed on the internet, can't they?
A hammam it shall be...
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1-1 can't see us keeping a clean sheet
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6-2
I have the season review video for that year somewhere
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Sunday 5th November 1989 (http://twohundredpercent.net/?p=8910)
A little nostalgia to make us weep. We weren't able to keep a clean sheet in that game either. God OG as a bonus.
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We will win 2-1.
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Probably a 1-1 or a 2-2 draw but I really have no idea what will happen with us in any given match at the moment.
A win would not surprise me, a draw would not surprise me, a defeat would not surprise me. So the only thing I can predict with any accuracy is that I am not going to be surprised on Saturday.
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Fuck it! I am going for an eximious 3-1 stomping.
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Fuck it! I am going for an eximious 3-1 stomping.
I have absolutely no idea what "eximious" means but it sounds fantastic! Yeah! Bring it on!
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1-3 Everton. For me, Everton will make the top 4 this year as a surprise package. We need to score first if we stand a chance of winning.
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Everton will be tougher than Spurs.
2-0 defeat I'm afraid.
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Everton haven't been playing really good lately so I'm hoping for a draw. 1-1
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This is a game we reallly need to win - although we haven't started badly it is tight and we are only 3 points off the bottom 3 - a win would see us placed in the top 10 with more favourable fixtures ahead.
Could go either way but Martinez is a smart cookie - lambert needs to change things or we will get beat .
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Sunday 5th November 1989 (http://twohundredpercent.net/?p=8910)
A little nostalgia to make us weep. We weren't able to keep a clean sheet in that game either. God OG as a bonus.
I can remember standing in my kitchen in Torquay where I lived at the time listening to this game on what must have been R2 I think back then as if it was yesterday
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Sunday 5th November 1989 (http://twohundredpercent.net/?p=8910)
A little nostalgia to make us weep. We weren't able to keep a clean sheet in that game either. God OG as a bonus.
I can remember standing in my kitchen in Torquay where I lived at the time listening to this game on what must have been R2 I think back then as if it was yesterday
Stood on the bottom left hand corner of The Holte for this game (Rastas' corner). Nothing makes you feel older than looking back on past Villa games as if they were yesteday, only to find that they were actually 24 years ago almost to the day.
I can't predict this result but I do predict that we won't still be talking about it in 24 years time
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2-1 Villa
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I feel old thinking about that 6-2 match!
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I feel old thinking about that 6-2 match!
I remember that game like it was yesterday and Daley's goal which I think made it 1-0.
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Sunday 5th November 1989 (http://twohundredpercent.net/?p=8910)
A little nostalgia to make us weep. We weren't able to keep a clean sheet in that game either. God OG as a bonus.
I can remember standing in my kitchen in Torquay where I lived at the time listening to this game on what must have been R2 I think back then as if it was yesterday
It was on ITV, what was wrong with your telly?
I was 9 and remember turning on at half time and it was 3-0, thinking if we keep up at this rate we'll get 6, sure enough we had in no time at all.
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I would take a draw, 2-2. A point from them would represent a very decent haul having already played Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea, Man City, Spurs and Everton in our first nine games.
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I feel old thinking about that 6-2 match!
I remember that game like it was yesterday and Daley's goal which I think made it 1-0.
Tony Daley didnt score - cowans got the 1st , olney 2 platt 2 and Nielsen .
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Fuck it! I am going for an eximious 3-1 stomping.
I have absolutely no idea what "eximious" means but it sounds fantastic! Yeah! Bring it on!
It means "excellent". I read it in the Sun ;-)
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Probably the only time that Cowans made a run through the defence and received a pass rather than delivering it. I'm still annoyed about those two goals they got at the end.
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This will be a hard game for us but if we play like we did against Man City I think we can get a 2-1 win.
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May as well just roll 2 dice for the score with this lot. No idea.
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Fuck it! I am going for an eximious 3-1 stomping.
I have absolutely no idea what "eximious" means but it sounds fantastic! Yeah! Bring it on!
It means "excellent". I read it in the Sun ;-)
There is more chance of you seeing that word emblazoned on the actual sun than printed in the "newspaper."
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Sunday 5th November 1989 (http://twohundredpercent.net/?p=8910)
A little nostalgia to make us weep. We weren't able to keep a clean sheet in that game either. God OG as a bonus.
I can remember standing in my kitchen in Torquay where I lived at the time listening to this game on what must have been R2 I think back then as if it was yesterday
Stood on the bottom left hand corner of The Holte for this game (Rastas' corner). Nothing makes you feel older than looking back on past Villa games as if they were yesteday, only to find that they were actually 24 years ago almost to the day.
I can't predict this result but I do predict that we won't still be talking about it in 24 years time
I remember getting home to watch the game again that evening. Sir Graham going off at HT at 3-0 saying how the fans now expect us to get 4,5 or 6 which we proceeded to do. Shame about the two late goals but for 80 minutes or so we were superb that day.
Fuck me. I still think of what might have been had he not left for England. How different everything would be, what we'd hhave achieved, the players we's have kept and bought.
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I feel old thinking about that 6-2 match!
Went to the bonfire at Small Heath park afterwards, what a day! :D
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I feel old thinking about that 6-2 match!
Went to the bonfire at Small Heath park afterwards, what a day! :D
If it had been a bonfire at Small Heath FC it would have been a perfect day...
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I would like to see Sylla and Tonev come in for this. I think we may well see the former, but Andi will stick around for another few games, depriving the later.
I really liked how busy Tonev looked, not only on the ball, but also off it. I think we need that big of something different to aid the supply through the centre, especially when we're playing decent sides who peg of full backs further back.
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I remember the 6-2 game too but the gloss was taken off for me when we got home to find we had been burgled. Not long before Christmas either.
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I would like to see Sylla and Tonev come in for this. I think we may well see the former, but Andi will stick around for another few games, depriving the later.
I really liked how busy Tonev looked, not only on the ball, but also off it. I think we need that big of something different to aid the supply through the centre, especially when we're playing decent sides who peg of full backs further back.
Not a bad call - Sunday was the brightest that Tonev has looked so far.
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Few spelling mistakes in there. Its meant to say bit and not big, and also peg our, not of.
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Would agree entirely. Andy needs a spell out. Sylla needs to be played. Tonev looked up for it and more importantly could also provide some width.
I'd be tempted to put Helenius in at some point too, possibly playing off Benteke.
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I'm all for these changes aswell and would agree with the names suggested. We need to mix things up at home, it got us a result against Man. City after all.
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Difficult to call. On our day we can bring off a result but I was disappointed with Lambert's tactics against Spurs. I think Martinez might be too smart for him too.
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Its entirely possible that Lambert intended to set up the same way we did against City (3-5-2) for the spurs match but Clarks illness stopped that happening.
Will be interesting to see what he goes with against Everton, presuming that everyone is available again.
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I feel old thinking about that 6-2 match!
I remember that game like it was yesterday and Daley's goal which I think made it 1-0.
Tony Daley didnt score - cowans got the 1st , olney 2 platt 2 and Nielsen .
I must be thinking of a different game then.
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Didn't he get a corking volley against them in a 2-0 win early in the season when we had just come back up? I remember it because I missed it because I was on holiday in Majorca. Seem to remember we beat Spurs the week before or the week after as well.
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Didn't he get a corking volley against them in a 2-0 win early in the season when we had just come back up? I remember it because I missed it because I was on holiday in Majorca. Seem to remember we beat Spurs the week before or the week after as well.
I wonder if that's the game i'm thinking of? He seemed to fling himself in the air and volley it.
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That'll be the one, yes.
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Didn't he get a corking volley against them in a 2-0 win early in the season when we had just come back up? I remember it because I missed it because I was on holiday in Majorca. Seem to remember we beat Spurs the week before or the week after as well.
88-89 season, we wore the infamous Hummel halved shirt.
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Didn't he get a corking volley against them in a 2-0 win early in the season when we had just come back up? I remember it because I missed it because I was on holiday in Majorca. Seem to remember we beat Spurs the week before or the week after as well.
Correct, we played Spurs (won 2-1 I think) and Newcastle next and won 3-1, then there was the Millwall game in midweek in the cup which we also won, great times.
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I'd go with
Guzan
Lowton
Clark
Baker
Luna
Sylla
Delph
Bacuna
Weimann
Agbonlahor
Benteke
Bacuna and Agbonlahor wide. Weimann playing a more central role.
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I'd go with
Guzan
Lowton
Clark
Baker
Luna
Sylla
Delph
Bacuna
Weimann
Agbonlahor
Benteke
Bacuna and Agbonlahor wide. Weimann playing a more central role.
This, but with Vlaar in for Baker, he's been a lot better this season and certainly doesn't deserve to be dropped for Baker
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Speaking with an ITK earlier today. Looks like Everton will pick up Barry's £116k a week deal and sign him permanently in January.
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Highly unlikely.
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Everton will score, but so will we. We're due another win at home, I reckon.
2-1. Benteke, Weimann, and Lukaku getting the goals.
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3-1 win
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I think it will be a 1-1 draw (well that is what I have gone for in my Super Six Results)
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We've only taken the lead once in eight games. Its vital that we score first, do that and we will win the game.
I expect to see us doing a lot of pressing and our full backs to get a lot higher up the pitch on Saturday too.
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We've only taken the lead once in eight games. Its vital that we score first, do that and we will win the game.
I expect to see us doing a lot of pressing and our full backs to get a lot higher up the pitch on Saturday too.
We have gone behind in 6 out of 8 matches this season. We have been losing at half time in 5 out of 8. This is appalling. We have to start scoring in the first half.
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An improvement on the spit-roasting we suffered in the corresponding game last year would be appreciated. The day Shay Given's career died and our expectations under Lambo took a severe reality check.
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Got a strong feeling for a draw in this game.
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We draw unbelievably often against Everton. Very important game in my view, if we lose it i can see another long winter.
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Another bloody hard game. I think Martinez was a really good fit for Everton similar to when Kendall and Moyes went there.
Happy with a draw. 2-2. They can be very entertaining fairs at times.
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I need a three-headed coin for any game at home...
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This will be just as tough as Spurs IMO. Draw.
Anyone know how I can watch the game at 30,000 feet? Maybe Virgin will have a live stream ;)
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Anyone know how I can watch the game at 30,000 feet?
Really good binoculars.
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Far to many good football brains on the everton team for us im afraid 0-3 for me. i think we will have a better chance if we drop weimann and play tonev on the wing with 2 up front. i think weimann would be a good impact sub up front! But i dont think lambert will do this.
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Can't predict. I am too busy plotting how to 1) find a bar in Paphos with the game on (is it on?). 2) convince she-who-has-not-had-leave-since-Spring to nip in for a quick sharpener before we look at the mosaics.
Try Evi's bar just up the road from the Alexander the Great. It's a Brit pub but she seemed to have all the games on when we were there about a month ago. Or there's another one just down the street from Papantoniou supermarket.
2-2 for me. First game i'm going to since i moved, bound not to be worth the effort ultimately.
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Entertaining 2-2 draw Benteke x2 Lukaku, Barkley for them.
Time to bring Lowton back in and push Bacuna into midfield with Delph & Sylla.
UTV!!
Yes and Tonev on the left, need some width and some good balls in the box, Delph and Sylla in the middle
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Gabby up top with Benteke and Weimann on the bench, However I think it will be same team
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We definitely need more width. At one point in the second half against Spurs Delph had beaten a couple of players then threw his arms out in frustration as there was no-one to pass to. I don't think we're yet sufficiently technically proficient to play narrowly through the middle and we need options out wide.
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Unfortunately, deep down, we all know KEA and Westy will be in the middle. With the usual front three. I sincerely hope I will be eating my proverbial hat.
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Could do with a morale boosting point at least here
I'd be a bit tempted to go something like:
Guzan - Lowton vlaar Clark Luna - sylla Delph - bacuna gabby Tonev - benteke
That's a bit more natural width than normally, though bacuna gives stability too. Gabby and Tonev can alternate
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Im thinking 1-1
Benteke Bentekes mate for them
which I would be quite happy with .
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Lets get right behind this one!!
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I can't decide between 3-2 or 2-3
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Go for 3-2, we get 2 more points that way.
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I'll have a few quid on both just to be safe
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(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1379790_732882320072662_825192146_n.jpg)
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(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1379790_732882320072662_825192146_n.jpg)
We should show our respect to a "proper football club" who have sufferered a tragic loss amongst their own...lets pays our respects tomorrow lads and lasses!!
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I wonder if the club could put this or a similar message on the screen at HT?
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(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1379790_732882320072662_825192146_n.jpg)
We should show our respect to a "proper football club" who have sufferered a tragic loss amongst their own...lets pays our respects tomorrow lads and lasses!!
I totally agree with this.
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I have no doubt the support and respect will be given to everton in regards the sad loss of this young lad .
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0 1 Everton I'm afraid
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I'm going for my third consecutive correct score prediction.I can't see us getting anything from this I'm afraid. We're still very much Work in Progress.
1-2 Everton.
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0 1 Everton I'm afraid
Hope you dont knowthescore....or has that joke already been done!
2-0 Villa.
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I have no doubt the support and respect will be given to everton in regards the sad loss of this young lad .
Absolutely. This is all about real life ......
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3-1
Benteke, Gabby, Weimann
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1-3
Everton are a decent, well organised side
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0-3 everton villa will play hoof it via guzan end of story
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Another home match i am afraid we will fail to win under Lambert .Can see another Liverpool /Tottenham kind of game with us setting out to stop Everton winning .I will go for 1-1 but we will probably lose
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Yes, Villa play hoof football lol.
Tough game, but reckon we can nick it 2-1. Not sure if there will be too much hoof football though that will upset people
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0-3 everton villa will play hoof it via guzan end of story
Villa don't play hoofball, that's utter nonsense. Sometimes when we get under pressure we go long and that's why we struggle, but we do try to pass it.
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a scintillating emphatic 2-0 victory for my clary blues
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Routine Villa win. I also think Lambert will change things up formation wise.
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2-2 Benteke and Andi W
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0-3 everton villa will play hoof it via guzan end of story
Villa don't play hoofball, that's utter nonsense. Sometimes when we get under pressure we go long and that's why we struggle, but we do try to pass it.
Absolutely this, despite what teats like Mourinho might say we are far from being a long ball team.
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I would love somebody to tell me how we set out to defend against Liverpool, in a game where they had one shot at goal and spent 55 minutes defending their own 18 yard line. And if we are a long ball team, then so are Everton, considering Howard has a couple of assists to his name.
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Delph will score today. Just a feeling that I have.
2-2, Benteke and Delph for villa.
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I would love somebody to tell me how we set out to defend against Liverpool, in a game where they had one shot at goal and spent 55 minutes defending their own 18 yard line. And if we are a long ball team, then so are Everton, considering Howard has a couple of assists to his name.
The only game this season I think we've set out with defence first in mind was Man City, and ironically we won that one.
We've tried hard in games against Liverpool, Spurs and Newcastle at home but the main problem was that we were ineffectual. That's in part not having the ability to play as narrow a game that Lambert seems to want us to.
Again we're not a long ball team...until we get to a point of desperation and run out of ideas. That's inevitably when it gets a bit ugly and the hopeful punts become more frequent. Newcastle at home was probably the worst example of that.
In terms of today, Everton have a tight defence and well organised midfield. With Lukaku now they've a bit more cutting edge in attack. I think they're a good side and I can't see us winning. I'm hoping that our decent record against them (aside from last season) will be enough to get us a draw. I'm looking forward to November though when the games get (hopefully) a little easier.
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Watched a bit of Everton v Hull and they werent all that great (better than us mind against the same opposition). They struggled defending any sort of crosses into their own box and Howard looks a bag of nerves at the moment. Benteke and Gabby could go well tomorrow against there defence. I think we simply have to press Barry high up the pitch, he has never had the quick feet to get himself out of tight spots, even more so now. We give him time on the ball and we will be in trouble. Thats probably warrants either Sylla or Bacuna playing in midfield to give us more mobility and pace in there. I dont rate James McCarthy all that much and Delph I think can outshine another England pretender in Barkley. Everton's two full backs attack very well but Coleman struggles a bit in his positioning at times. Gabby in form could trouble him but if he plays with the same half arsed attitude as against the Spuds then we wont create at all.
Would definitely have Vlaar pick up Lukaku as I have horrible memories of Clark getting tormented by Anichebe against the same opposition last year.
Team I would go for 4-2-2-2 type formation. would bring back in Lowton for this one to give us a bit more going forward. Kea and Westwood arent offering much at the moment and bringing Bacuna into midfield seems to be the only other option we have.
------------Guzan
Lowton, Vlaar, Clark, Luna
------Bacuna-----Delph
---Sylla, ------------Bennett
------Benteke----Gabby-------
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I think we will win 3-1, as long as we score first and press as a unit.
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Everton have hada piss easy start compared to us.
3-0 Villa.
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4-1 Villa. The bookies told me to bet on it. ;)
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Villa 1 - Everton 3
We need to get our act together in the centre of the park in our home fixtures - until that happens I foresee many more disappointing results. Martinez to outfox Lambert in the tactical stakes I fear.
VCTM Jnr has opted to stay on Merseyside and play for his local hockey team.
I will be playing lone ranger in a couple of hours - driving down the M6 -
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I'm going to try parking in a new place near the ground and Everton are a good team in fine form. All in all, my nerves are in shreds.
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Ha ha! I was convinced that one pair of jeans was luckier than others until Tottenham. Turns out I am just a mentalist.
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Keep putting the bets on Villa losing in the first half but winning the game. I only omitted to do it once this season and you might guess which game that was.
3-1 Villa after going behind.
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Can't predict. I am too busy plotting how to 1) find a bar in Paphos with the game on (is it on?). 2) convince she-who-has-not-had-leave-since-Spring to nip in for a quick sharpener before we look at the mosaics.
Any sports bar with multiscreens, most have the games chalked up somewhere
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Can't predict. I am too busy plotting how to 1) find a bar in Paphos with the game on (is it on?). 2) convince she-who-has-not-had-leave-since-Spring to nip in for a quick sharpener before we look at the mosaics.
Any sports bar with multiscreens, most have the games chalked up somewhere
You think you have problems? They can get anything on Vıp box there, just a matter of convincing them..me, I am in Malatya E. Turkey trying to translate the idea of wanting to even watch a yabancı/foreign team..perseverance! Not many sports bars for a start!
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I rarely make predictions but have a feeling against form we will win today. If we don't, I shall not be committing suicide just yet. 8)
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Just saw on Football Focus that Greg Dyke is appearing at the game today to make some sort of presentation around the most played fixture in football history. Can't wait
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1-1.
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Losing so many home games and we need to sort it quickly, with 110 per cent from the players and the support of our wonderful fans I am sure we can get the right result (Wording slightly wrong) by the way think Everton will be a bit to strong for us but a draw is a definate possibility if we include Sylla at the expense of KEA to give Delph a bit of defensive support to enable him to push forward to support the forwards.
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There'll be a lot of goals in this one I think.
I'm still not convinced by our midfield though & can see us getting outclassed again.
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We will win.
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I'm feeling optimistic. 2-1 to us.
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I thought The Everton performance last season was the best at VP,they took us to the cleaners especially in the first half,
But this is a different game and they haven't got Fellaini this time who was awesome in that game last year
Draw
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There'll be a lot of goals in this one I think.
I'm still not convinced by our midfield though & can see us getting outclassed again.
4-3 villa win
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apologies if posted already but pretty funny everton preview of the game - http://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/61464-Aston-Villa-v-Everton-26th-Oct-15-00
best bits....
On benteke - In terms of his quality he stands out in this Villa team like a blonde haired child in a Greek gyspy camp.
on our defence - A defence that is to clean sheets what dogsh*t is to the new trabs