Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine

Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: dave.woodhall on September 28, 2013, 08:44:19 PM

Title: Thieving scum
Post by: dave.woodhall on September 28, 2013, 08:44:19 PM
Thank you to the lowlife who stole one of our sellers' phone while his back was turned today.  You really are a wanker aren't you?
Title: Re: Thieving scum
Post by: UK Redsox on September 28, 2013, 08:45:15 PM
Do I need to ask who ?

EDIT - for once it was Villa's unluckiest fan
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Post by: Rigadon on September 28, 2013, 08:49:24 PM
Mongrels. 
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Post by: eastie on September 28, 2013, 08:53:04 PM
Sorry to hear this , and in the unlikely event that the thief is reading this then hang your head in shame and return it please.
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Post by: Legion on September 28, 2013, 08:56:12 PM
Do I need to ask who ?

Not me this time, for once. I hope whoever did this has karma returned upon themselves big style. The seller in question is a great bloke and does not deserve this.
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Post by: olaftab on September 28, 2013, 08:56:39 PM
That is unbelievable. Presumably he was our supporter so I am shocked that we have such ***** in and around us.
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Post by: Legion on September 28, 2013, 09:02:42 PM
Not necessarily. I believe it was early on in the day so could have been what was referred to as a 'local' by the police.
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Post by: Phil from the upper holte on September 28, 2013, 09:13:30 PM
This is unfortunately a society problem, I'm hoping by the time my boy grows up the world is really going to be a different place
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Post by: lovejoy on September 28, 2013, 09:17:20 PM
Defo stolen and not just lost?
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Post by: Legion on September 28, 2013, 09:18:07 PM
Definitely stolen.
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Post by: lovejoy on September 28, 2013, 09:19:37 PM
Pisser. Sorry to hear that. Hope they catch the scroat.
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Post by: Malandro on September 28, 2013, 09:19:43 PM
I hope they track it down, disgusting
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Post by: Legion on September 28, 2013, 09:22:23 PM
.
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Post by: Irish villain on September 28, 2013, 09:25:11 PM
Sickening.
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Post by: lovejoy on September 28, 2013, 09:27:11 PM
Thing is the thief must of known he's stealing from a fellow villa fan. Twunt.
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Post by: adrenachrome on September 28, 2013, 09:35:59 PM
Very sad, and  I bought my copy from the seller involved, by the sounds of things. It's a fucked up world that we live in, no doubt.
Title: Re: Thieving scum
Post by: Clampy on September 28, 2013, 11:57:27 PM
Sorry to hear that. What a wanker.
Title: Re: Thieving scum
Post by: Uknowthescore on September 29, 2013, 12:21:55 AM
Doubt it was a villa fan probably some opportunist local my mate had is car broke into last season and after causing hundreds of oounds worth of damage all they robbed was a few coins left in one of side pockets. Wankers
Title: Re: Thieving scum
Post by: Dave Clark Five on September 29, 2013, 12:29:35 AM
Time someone came on and questionned if the twat had been provoked, thereby justifying it.
Fuck off before you start.
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Post by: villan from luton on September 29, 2013, 12:43:53 AM
Some people are scum unfortunately.
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Post by: danlanza on September 29, 2013, 04:33:56 AM
Robbing bastards.
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Post by: Lambert and Payne on September 29, 2013, 08:34:10 AM
Happened to me about a month back at V Fest. Really is some scum in the world.
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Post by: tom jennings III on September 29, 2013, 08:43:22 AM
What a dickhead. Hope it turns up as unlikely as that is.
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Post by: Villa-Villan on September 29, 2013, 10:33:35 AM
I'm sorry to hear about his loss and particularly when someone was so sly at the expense of a Villa fan trying to do some good for us.

On a brighter note, sometimes good things happen like years ago at a home game, I was walking back to the car and outside Aston Church I saw a guy drop a £50.00 note from his back pocket as he was walking with his mates.

I picked it up and about 10 seconds later ahead of me I saw the same guy exclaiming " I've just lost that £50 pound note from my back pocket " I went up to him and said " have you lost something mate? " and he confirmed what I saw anyway.

I handed it back to him informing him " I could never do that to a fellow Villa fan " his mates started to have a whip-round for me but I told them to forget and said my goodbyes and carried on to the car.


Up The Villa.
Title: Re: Thieving scum
Post by: Jim Shoes on September 29, 2013, 11:07:03 AM
Scumbags, they are amongst us!

I saw a young guy drop some money last week it didn't even cross my mind to keep it I just called him so he he could pick it up, this is what I'd like to think most people would do unfortunately not everyone behaves the same.

I hope they catch the thief.
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Post by: Percy McCarthy on September 29, 2013, 03:18:31 PM
Thanks for the kind words all. No sign of the phone but it's no use to anyone now and they can't look at my photos at least.

Perspective: I was cursing my phone the other day when I was entranced by a particularly interesting debate on here and my little girl nearly ran in the main road. Also, friend's funeral the other week, another riddled with cancer, and I'm watching Stephen Ireland in a non-Villa shirt. So all in all, things could be a lot worse, and are for many.
Title: Re: Thieving scum
Post by: martin o`who?? on September 29, 2013, 03:55:00 PM
Steal shit from a toilet some of `em.
Title: Re: Thieving scum
Post by: silhillvilla on September 29, 2013, 04:15:35 PM
A sad indictment on the world we live in today.
Title: Re: Thieving scum
Post by: MarkM on September 29, 2013, 04:32:56 PM
When I was selling I was always keeping a watch for certain types looking to grap stuff out of my bags while I was serving someone
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Post by: pauliewalnuts on September 29, 2013, 06:33:55 PM
Thing is the thief must of known he's stealing from a fellow villa fan. Twunt.

What difference does that make?

Surely it would have been no less unacceptable if it was a Man City fan getting robbed?

Title: Re: Thieving scum
Post by: Legion on September 29, 2013, 06:38:38 PM
The thief was not necessarily a Villa fan. It could have been an opportunistic local.
Title: Re: Thieving scum
Post by: dave.woodhall on September 29, 2013, 06:40:18 PM
The thief was not necessarily a Villa fan. It could have been an opportunistic local.

The odds are against it.
Title: Re: Thieving scum
Post by: Jimbo on September 29, 2013, 06:44:58 PM
Does it matter who stole it, or who it was stolen from? A thief is a thief, surely?
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Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on September 29, 2013, 07:08:02 PM
Sorry to hear that, Percy.
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Post by: pauliewalnuts on September 29, 2013, 07:16:55 PM
Does it matter who stole it, or who it was stolen from? A thief is a thief, surely?

Exactly.
Title: Re: Thieving scum
Post by: not3bad on September 29, 2013, 10:15:22 PM
Sorry to hear that. What a wanker.

This
Title: Re: Thieving scum
Post by: pauliewalnuts on September 29, 2013, 10:18:38 PM
On the bright side, Percy, didn't you mention once that your Blackberry didn't render this site very well - especially spoiler tags?

Better off without it, if so.







*wink*
Title: Re: Thieving scum
Post by: Lizz on September 29, 2013, 10:41:09 PM
Also on the bright side Percy, annoying as it is, you sound like you have a sense of perspective over it, and aren't letting it fester and cause yourself unnecessary grief that won't make the phone magically reappear.
Title: Re: Thieving scum
Post by: peter w on September 29, 2013, 11:16:10 PM
Thanks for the kind words all. No sign of the phone but it's no use to anyone now and they can't look at my photos at least.

Perspective: I was cursing my phone the other day when I was entranced by a particularly interesting debate on here and my little girl nearly ran in the main road. Also, friend's funeral the other week, another riddled with cancer, and I'm watching Stephen Ireland in a non-Villa shirt. So all in all, things could be a lot worse, and are for many.

Christ, the one seller I hoping it wasn't was Percy. Not for some deep man love type thing, but if the culprit is ever found I fear thatPercy isn't the person you'd want on your tail.
Title: Re: Thieving scum
Post by: Concrete Tom on September 29, 2013, 11:56:27 PM
A fellow fan in the lower Holte lost his phone down at the front of the aisle during the Bacuna celebration - it had popped out of his pocket and someone must have pocketed it. He spent the rest of the half searching frantically instead of enjoying the win. What a shame.
Title: Re: Thieving scum
Post by: Damo70 on September 30, 2013, 01:27:13 PM
The next time I am out and about and hear a ringtone with any Paul Weller connections it will be difficult not to jump to conclusions and take the law into my own hands.
Title: Re: Thieving scum
Post by: eastie on September 30, 2013, 01:40:25 PM
The next time I am out and about and hear a ringtone with any Paul Weller connections it will be difficult not to jump to conclusions and take the law into my own hands.

I'd imagine the thief will be going underground to avoid retribution.
Title: Re: Thieving scum
Post by: Percy McCarthy on September 30, 2013, 03:12:42 PM
On the bright side, Percy, didn't you mention once that your Blackberry didn't render this site very well - especially spoiler tags?

Better off without it, if so.







*wink*

Correct, so I got an i-phone. Doh!
Title: Re: Thieving scum
Post by: pauliewalnuts on September 30, 2013, 03:15:36 PM
The next time I am out and about and hear a ringtone with any Paul Weller connections it will be difficult not to jump to conclusions and take the law into my own hands.

I saw a teenager in the supermarket with a phone with a STYLE COUNCIL COVER on it.









I didn't really, I was just imagining how ANGRY I'd be (on Percy's behalf) if I did.
Title: Re: Thieving scum
Post by: eastie on September 30, 2013, 03:19:35 PM
The next time I am out and about and hear a ringtone with any Paul Weller connections it will be difficult not to jump to conclusions and take the law into my own hands.

I saw a teenager in the supermarket with a phone with a STYLE COUNCIL COVER on it.









I didn't really, I was just imagining how ANGRY I'd be (on Percy's behalf) if I did.

Bit naughty paulie, it must be the bitterest pill to swallow having had a phone stolen , hope he had a record of his precious  contacts backed up, I expect the thief will try to sell it  somewhere in the city .
Title: Re: Thieving scum
Post by: Weedy on September 30, 2013, 03:26:16 PM
If you know the IMEI * number of the phone, you can tell the carrier/network that it's been stolen and ask them to block it.

To find the International Mobile Equipment Identity number, dial:-

* # 0 6 #
(no spaces)

More info here and you can also report your phone stolen.

http://www.imei.org.uk/myimei/


Title: Re: Thieving scum
Post by: Jimbo on September 30, 2013, 03:39:15 PM
When I had my iPhone swiped by some Russian scumbag in Moscow, I felt reasonably lucky that I hadn't been shot in the face with an AK47 and sold as bear meat in one of the local Uzbek street markets. However, as soon as I got back and tried to locate it on the 'Find My IPhone' software, it had of course already been cracked open and the sim discarded. It was untraceable. Neither was it covered by my insurance, which stipulated that phones somehow don't fall under the term 'electrical items'. Since iPhones cost a lot of money, Apple should really look into building a GPS device that can synch with iPads etc into the body of the phone, making it more difficult for dirty thieving bastards to profit from nicking them.
Title: Re: Thieving scum
Post by: pauliewalnuts on September 30, 2013, 03:40:36 PM
I was just about to suggest using Find My iPhone

It doesn't matter how Apple embed the gps into the phone, if the thieves rip out the sim card then that's it.
Title: Re: Thieving scum
Post by: Percy McCarthy on September 30, 2013, 03:41:05 PM
If you know the IMEI * number of the phone, you can tell the carrier/network that it's been stolen and ask them to block it.

To find the International Mobile Equipment Identity number, dial:-

* # 0 6 #
(no spaces)

More info here and you can also report your phone stolen.

http://www.imei.org.uk/myimei/

Thanks mate, done already. I've also got 'find my i-phone' app tracking it, but they haven't turned it back on yet.
Title: Re: Thieving scum
Post by: eastie on September 30, 2013, 03:45:02 PM
Just made a note of  my IMIE number in case it ever happens to me- thanks for the tip
Title: Re: Thieving scum
Post by: Jimbo on September 30, 2013, 04:30:14 PM
I was just about to suggest using Find My iPhone

It doesn't matter how Apple embed the gps into the phone, if the thieves rip out the sim card then that's it.

I know that, but it's surely within the bounds of possibility to build a GPS tracking device into the phone, which once synced with a sim card, can then be tracked by an ipad or Mac, independently of the sim. IPhones are expensive enough to include this simple feature, surely?
Title: Re: Thieving scum
Post by: pauliewalnuts on September 30, 2013, 04:32:20 PM
I was just about to suggest using Find My iPhone

It doesn't matter how Apple embed the gps into the phone, if the thieves rip out the sim card then that's it.

I know that, but it's surely within the bounds of possibility to build a GPS tracking device into the phone, which once synced with a sim card, can then be tracked by an ipad or Mac, independently of the sim. IPhones are expensive enough to include this simple feature, surely?

How does the GPS communicate the position of the phone with no data connection?
Title: Re: Thieving scum
Post by: eastie on September 30, 2013, 04:35:13 PM
Hopefully this new update will help-

Congratulations on your update to iOS 7. As an iCloud user, part of your upgrade includes new features built into Find My iPhone that make it harder for anyone else to use or sell your device if it is ever lost or stolen.
With Find My iPhone turned on in iOS 7, your Apple ID  and password will always be required before anyone can:
•    Turn off Find My iPhone on your device.
•    Erase your device.
•    Reactivate and use your device.
There is nothing you need to do except to keep Find My iPhone turned on and remember your Apple ID and password. For more information, read the FAQ.
Title: Re: Thieving scum
Post by: pauliewalnuts on September 30, 2013, 04:35:31 PM
Mind you, at some point in time, someone has to try the phone either with a sim in it or on a wifi network in any case. I think ios7 actually includes some new functionality to make it impossible to wipe an iphone without knowing the code to turn Find My Iphone off.

I have no idea if it works, though. Maybe when a jailbreak comes out for ios7, that'll be easy to turn off in any case.
Title: Re: Thieving scum
Post by: pauliewalnuts on September 30, 2013, 04:36:11 PM
Hopefully this new update will help-

Congratulations on your update to iOS 7. As an iCloud user, part of your upgrade includes new features built into Find My iPhone that make it harder for anyone else to use or sell your device if it is ever lost or stolen.
With Find My iPhone turned on in iOS 7, your Apple ID  and password will always be required before anyone can:
•    Turn off Find My iPhone on your device.
•    Erase your device.
•    Reactivate and use your device.
There is nothing you need to do except to keep Find My iPhone turned on and remember your Apple ID and password. For more information, read the FAQ.

Ah, quote overlap, that's what I meant.

Title: Re: Thieving scum
Post by: Jimbo on September 30, 2013, 04:37:55 PM
I was just about to suggest using Find My iPhone

It doesn't matter how Apple embed the gps into the phone, if the thieves rip out the sim card then that's it.

I know that, but it's surely within the bounds of possibility to build a GPS tracking device into the phone, which once synced with a sim card, can then be tracked by an ipad or Mac, independently of the sim. IPhones are expensive enough to include this simple feature, surely?

How does the GPS communicate the position of the phone with no data connection?

Er, I don't know. Perhaps as soon as the phone is linked to a wifi connection, it can then transmit its position independently of a sim, a bit like a wifi only ipad? In fact, my wifi only ipad is less nickable than my iPhone was because there's no sim to discard.

Edit: Ah, didn't see the above posts, thanks.
Title: Re: Thieving scum
Post by: pauliewalnuts on September 30, 2013, 04:40:52 PM
I was just about to suggest using Find My iPhone

It doesn't matter how Apple embed the gps into the phone, if the thieves rip out the sim card then that's it.

I know that, but it's surely within the bounds of possibility to build a GPS tracking device into the phone, which once synced with a sim card, can then be tracked by an ipad or Mac, independently of the sim. IPhones are expensive enough to include this simple feature, surely?

How does the GPS communicate the position of the phone with no data connection?

Er, I don't know. Perhaps as soon as the phone is linked to a wifi connection, it can then transmit its position independently of a sim, a bit like a wifi only ipad? In fact, my wifi only ipad is less nickable than my iPhone was because there's no sim to discard.

That's what it does now.

Once it is on a network, it can tell you where it is (3g or wifi network). The problem with the old iOS was that you could nick the phone, turn it off, wipe it, and there goes the Find My iPhone functionality.

Now, though, with iOS7, you cant do that, you have to have the pass code to turn off Find My Iphone first, which makes it much harder to get around.

However, I would imagine that the tools that get used to jailbreak iphones will at some point invariably include ways to get around this as well.
Title: Re: Thieving scum
Post by: Jimbo on September 30, 2013, 04:49:09 PM
Perhaps ios7 is worth installing after all then? I've been putting it off, it looks awful.
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Post by: pauliewalnuts on September 30, 2013, 04:57:36 PM
I thought it looked fucking horrible the first time I saw the designs (before the launch), but have since stuck it on my iphone 4s and my wifi only ipad 2, and it is pretty good.

It is quite snappy, plus i like being able to access more functionality without having to enter my security code first - as well as take pics, you can turn wifi, bluetooth on and off, change brightness, volume, stick it in flight mode etc etc. Quite handy.
Title: Re: Thieving scum
Post by: eastie on September 30, 2013, 05:23:44 PM
Perhaps ios7 is worth installing after all then? I've been putting it off, it looks awful.

I must admit i preferred the old iOS version on ipad but only updated yesterday so am still getting used to the new version.

Haven't updated iphone yet as I'm short on space and need to keep my music on as I'm going away to menorca next week - I will delete the music and update the phone when I get back.
Title: Re: Thieving scum
Post by: PaulTheVillan on October 01, 2013, 10:01:50 AM
Stealing a phone these days is pretty pointless.
Title: Re: Thieving scum
Post by: Salsa Party Animal on October 01, 2013, 10:42:20 AM
Phone should stay in the front trouser pocket. Especially in a place like Villa Park.  Hope you get it back and insurance cover.
 
Title: Re: Thieving scum
Post by: Damo70 on October 01, 2013, 10:12:49 PM
Stealing a phone these days is pretty pointless.

Unless you steal one off someone who's contact list is the modern equivalent of Sam Malone from 'Cheers' legendary little black book. ;)



Title: Re: Thieving scum
Post by: martin o`who?? on October 06, 2013, 03:20:13 PM
The thief was not necessarily a Villa fan. It could have been an opportunistic local.
Doesnt matter who, summary torture and execution is the only answer.(only joking, but writing as someone who has been mugged/broken into/ had his motorbike stolen,and been done by a hit and run driver, it does colour my opinion somewhat!).
Title: Re: Thieving scum
Post by: peter w on October 06, 2013, 03:23:03 PM
The thief was not necessarily a Villa fan. It could have been an opportunistic local.
Doesnt matter who, summary torture and execution is the only answer.(only joking, but writing as someone who has been mugged/broken into/ had his motorbike stolen,and been done by a hit and run driver, it does colour my opinion somewhat!).

Shit, that was a bad day.
Title: Re: Thieving scum
Post by: Malandro on October 06, 2013, 04:07:16 PM
Stealing a phone these days is pretty pointless.

you can play the original snake if you nick mine.
Title: Re: Thieving scum
Post by: martin o`who?? on October 06, 2013, 04:40:34 PM
The thief was not necessarily a Villa fan. It could have been an opportunistic local.
Doesnt matter who, summary torture and execution is the only answer.(only joking, but writing as someone who has been mugged/broken into/ had his motorbike stolen,and been done by a hit and run driver, it does colour my opinion somewhat!).

Shit, that was a bad day.
I`ve had worse lol!!!...
Title: Re: Thieving scum
Post by: Pete3206 on October 06, 2013, 05:28:36 PM
Stealing a phone these days is pretty pointless.

you can play the original snake if you nick mine.

And mine. Although anyone thieving my sub £10 unit will be faced with the EE network, so you can't even have clear, decent conversation with anyone.
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