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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Legion on September 20, 2013, 07:15:56 PM
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Get in there good result and a clean sheet Brad was my man of the match.
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Phew, feels safe to come here now. Well done.
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Great birthday present for me
Guzan MOM
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Get in a clean sheet and a win thank fuck. Clark was excellent today. Tonev and Luna were absolutely awful. Bacuna played well. Really hope Benteke and Gabby's injuries aren't too bad, it's vital they're fit.
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A clean sheet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A gritty win!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A player, Kozak, who knew what to do to hold onto it at the end!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Clean sheet - and a good away performance. We definitely look more resilient at the back now!
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We have won a game 1-0.
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Win, clean sheet, excellent!
I must say we actually showed some real steel and defended for our lives there at times, well done lads.
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Clark, Bacuna and Guzan were excellent today.
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It wasn't pretty but the three points are all that counts.
Real battling performance from us.
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WE DID IT! WE DID IT! WE DID IT!
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Guzan and Bacuna, take a bow. Clark and Vlaar take a bow.
Tonev and Luna, take a good hard look at yourselves!
Delph, KEA, well battled lads, you did yourself proud lads.
Kozak - good finish and great shift.
Helenius, looks a talent to me.
Weimann - how hard you worked son!
Brilliant, backs to the wall, in the face of real, real adversity. Benteke, Gabby, Westwood out. Ripped out the core of us, but they sure battled.
Need to win and win we did.
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Great stuff, out for dinner with the wife tonight and I may just feel like talking to her now I am in such a good mood. Nice to be able to listen to the other games with a win in the bag. All of a sudden I like football again
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I'm glad I was proved right about Clark. I really believe he is a better player for what he went through last season and he could really establish himself this term.
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Its a miracle, its a miracle!!.....
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Decent performance, any win away from home is good. Norwich look really poor.
I was impressed by our left side Luna, Weimann, KEA all played well-ish. Guzan immense.
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GET THE FUCK IN!!!
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Daylight robbery. Luna and Tonev have a lot to earn. Weimann remains out of form. Good job Norwich are crap. And that we have MOTM Brad. Can we play every week at Carrow Road?! Woohoo!!
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A clean sheet !
Guzan Save (http://www.dailymotion.com/embed/video/x14z4ul)
Libor Goal (http://www.dailymotion.com/embed/video/x14z5s8)
Not a classic performance by any means
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I'm giving Guzan a mark of 270,000 out of 10 for todays performance. Fucking immense
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Clark is a much better player than Baker because he has positional sense, which saved us a couple of times today.
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Great result. We needed to win and we won. A clean sheet too. Unbelievable.
I only saw the second half so this is only based on that, butI thought Brad was great, Bacuna looked good at full back and Helenius and Kozak looked like they have some decent qualities, but we will have to learn a new way of playing to get the best out of them. Delph good again and I thought Clarke defended really well (as he has done this season)
Tonev looked off the pace, but I reckon theres a player there.
A disappointing performance maybe but we had to cope with a lot of changes in personel and we won, something to build on.
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W a s. T h e r e. Ever any doubt?
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Huge win and a badly needed clean sheet. I was impressed with Gabby until the injury, and Bacuna. Also Kojak looks useful. Tonev has got to earn his place. In the reserves. Luna looks wobbly.
And what a save. Guzan is immense, and as important to us as Benteke, who I'm now going to pray to all the Gods of Valhalla for.
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Decent performance, any win away from home is good. Norwich look really poor.
I was impressed by our left side Luna, Weimann, KEA all played well-ish. Guzan immense.
Huh? Luna was slaughtered by Snodgrass.
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Excellent what a great watch on BT Vision, get in there !! AVFC4EVER
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Great to get a win and a 0 next to the opposition.
Only saw the 2nd half. Thought we were awful going forward (Tonev in particular), awful at left back as usual, more resolute at centre half.
We have 2 fit players that would get into most premier league teams on current form in Delph and Guzan. The rest are very, very hit and miss.
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I'm hoping that that'll give the defence a massive boost to our defence, finally getting a clean sheet.
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Oh dear I really feel crap now. Been following the match on match thread and SSN and just flicking through I have found that I HAVE BT sport!
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These early kick offs are nice when you win. Job done, relax.
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Decent performance, any win away from home is good. Norwich look really poor.
I was impressed by our left side Luna, Weimann, KEA all played well-ish. Guzan immense.
Huh? Luna was slaughtered by Snodgrass.
Indeed Luna had an absolute shocker and should be dropped for Bennett.
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Bonuses are we won and kept a clean sheet though can't help but be very disappointed with the performances Of Tonev (can't quite work out whether he realizes he is allowed to pass to a man in the same colour shirt) and Luna who's positioning is awful.
I also like the way Lambert ensures the players go over to the away fans at the end of the game.
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I'm hoping that that'll give the defence a massive boost to our defence, finally getting a clean sheet.
Well put. And it was great to see them timewasting and do all that other clubs do when one up away from home. We have not seen that nous for a very long time.
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We look a poor side who might get a few goals on the break...thats about it for me.
Bacuna played well out of position, Delph and KEA didnt do too bad either. Tonev and Luna....ummmm, yea.
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Shit the bed that wasn't much fun. A shame that the injuries robbed our attacking intent, Gabby was looking really lively in the first half. I am sincerely hoping that it was a bad day at the office for Tonev, he just strolled around the pitch looking uninterested and twice in that second half he gave possession up too easily allowing Norwich excellent goal scoring opportunities. Delph and KEA did well in the middle, Delph didn't get booked!!. Clark was excellent against Elmander, and seemed to have a lot of composure. Gods bless Guzan the save from Snodgrass' penalty and the tip over the bar from Hooper deserved a clean sheet....let me just type that again, a clean sheet...damn that's an experience that has been coming for a while. Bacuna looked damn decent too. Some positives, let's just hope the injuries to Gabby and Tekkers are not too serious. I think we have a squad.
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3 points, clean sheet. Villa don't do draws any more. Benteke will be out for sometime which is a massive blow, happy and sad feeling really doesn't work at the same time.
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Decent performance, any win away from home is good. Norwich look really poor.
I was impressed by our left side Luna, Weimann, KEA all played well-ish. Guzan immense.
I'll have a pint of what noodles is on. Luna ripped apart...to be fair he didn't bottle it. Weiman nah not today but KEA was decent today and i ain't a fan.
Michael Owen gave Guzan MOM and i can see the point - pen save,great save plus crosses dealt with but for me MOM was Ciaran Clarke he threw his body into everything.
Also Bacuna outstanding!!!!
10th for a few hours anyway!!!
Huh? Luna was slaughtered by Snodgrass.
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Brad Guzans save reminds me of the Gordon Banks against Pele
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KEA had a really good game today.
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That was a battle! A lot of adversity there - three injuries if you include Westwood. The penalty. The monkey on our back of no clean sheets.
We looked pretty shit at times though. Defensively down the left all game. And going fwd in the second. I'd order the players in the following way:
Guzan - Clark - bacuna - gabby
Then a gap then: Delph - KEA - vlaar - Weimann
Then kozak - benteke - helenius - sylla -
then a gap.
Then a further gap
Then: Luna - Tonev
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I think we should all hold off celebrating the clean sheet.
At least until the betting surrounding the match has been checked for irregularities.
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Lambo on BT Sport. Says he hid lots of knocks and injuries pre match. Benteke not too badly hurt. That is why he signed Kojak. Praised back 6. The big club games gave confidence, lucky to get anything in such games. Admits poor v Toon. Next two games top sides again. Hints at weaker team v Spurs due to injuries and league priority.
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Superb win, Villa! Can now relax for the rest of the weekend. Oh and a clean sheet as well! Come on!
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Well, I've slagged off El Ahmadi a lot but I have to admit he was very good today. The midfield still forget to track their man back too often for my liking, but KEA harried and hustled to good effect.
Bacuna was very good indeed, his pace really made a difference, which helped when he got caught out of position occasionally. Made Luna look like an amateur by comparison.
Kojak looks pretty decent - good touch and takes up some really useful positions. As soon as he came on, he went and stood between the centre backs on Bassong's shoulder, and was actively calling for the ball - always good to see. He made the goal with his movement. Shame about Benteke, but now the logic of Lambert's decision to sign another forward looks clearer. Fair play to him.
I thought Clark had a good game too, which is not something I say all that often.
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The clean sheet is vital, plus if Clark plays like that we'll be ok. He was excellent.
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Marvellous. Guzan was magnificent.
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I thought Clark's reading of the game was superb.
Still nearly scored an oggy though!
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Decent performance, any win away from home is good. Norwich look really poor.
I was impressed by our left side Luna, Weimann, KEA all played well-ish. Guzan immense.
I'll have a pint of what noodles is on. Luna ripped apart...to be fair he didn't bottle it. Weiman nah not today but KEA was decent today and i ain't a fan.
Michael Owen gave Guzan MOM and i can see the point - pen save,great save plus crosses dealt with but for me MOM was Ciaran Clarke he threw his body into everything.
Also Bacuna outstanding!!!!
10th for a few hours anyway!!!
Huh? Luna was slaughtered by Snodgrass.
Luna was up against Snodgrass and Martin overlapping, he did well. Obviously Weimann stayed high up the pitch which meant the lacked cover. He did well defensively.
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I thought Clark's reading of the game was superb.
Still nearly scored an oggy though!
Yeah but that was more down to Luna.
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Superb. We. Showed so much heart and spirit today. Obviously massively worried about Benteke, so hopefuly it isn't more than a bad pull. That said it is why we bought Helenius and more specifically Kozak.
I know a couple of the lads had poor games, particularly Tonev. Let's not forget that Bacuna had a bit of a mare against Liverpool and was very good today. Let's not be too harsh on them as they acclimatise themselves to a new country and to the demands of the PL.
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Ginola talking about Norwich players not tracking back. Pot, kettle, black?
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Brad Guzans save reminds me of the Gordon Banks against Pele
Like Bobby Moore said at the time "should have held it"!. lol
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Can't afford Benteke being out longer than a game really.
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Oh, and if there's a better 'keeper than Brad in the country right now, I've yet to see him. Another flawless display.
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Can't afford Benteke being out longer than a game really.
If it's no more than 3 It'll be ok.
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That was a battle! A lot of adversity there - three injuries if you include Westwood. The penalty. The monkey on our back of no clean sheets.
We looked pretty shit at times though. Defensively down the left all game. And going fwd in the second. I'd order the players in the following way:
Guzan - Clark - bacuna - gabby
Then a gap then: Delph - KEA - vlaar - Weimann
Then kozak - benteke - helenius - sylla -
then a gap.
Then a further gap
Then: Luna - Tonev
Well put, but too kind to Andi.
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Win. Clean sheet. Happy Days. Hope Benteke isn't out for long. Fair play for the battling qualities shown.
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A clean sheet and an invaluable 3 points. We still look really vulnerable round the left back area and I don't think it's a co-incidence that both Newcastle & Norwich targeted us there. Haven't followed the match thread today as I had my laptop hooked up to the TV to watch on BT Sport, but I seem to be in a minority of 1 who thought it was a penalty (even Mark Halsey said it shouldn't have been given). Guzan immense yet again. Good battling performance by most of the team but some of our passing in the second half was sloppy, and we missed Gabby as an out-ball to relieve pressure. Tonev was disappointing.
Wish referees would book players like Redmond who wave imaginary cards trying to get opposition players booked.
My real concern is we've lost our 2 best outfield players to injury in less than a week. Any news on Benteke?
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Tonev needs to massively change his game, he can't shoot all the time.
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Bacuna has given Lambert a problem now, he was very very good today.
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Tonev needs to massively change his game, he can't shoot all the time.
The commentator said he scored a hat trick for Bulgaria...hard to see isnt it!
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Ginola talking about Norwich players not tracking back. Pot, kettle, black?
He only tracked back once in his life and cost France a place in the world Cup.
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Decent performance, any win away from home is good. Norwich look really poor.
I was impressed by our left side Luna, Weimann, KEA all played well-ish. Guzan immense.
I'll have a pint of what noodles is on. Luna ripped apart...to be fair he didn't bottle it. Weiman nah not today but KEA was decent today and i ain't a fan.
Michael Owen gave Guzan MOM and i can see the point - pen save,great save plus crosses dealt with but for me MOM was Ciaran Clarke he threw his body into everything.
Also Bacuna outstanding!!!!
10th for a few hours anyway!!!
Huh? Luna was slaughtered by Snodgrass.
Luna was up against Snodgrass and Martin overlapping, he did well. Obviously Weimann stayed high up the pitch which meant the lacked cover. He did well defensively.
No, he did not. And he was similar last week when Ben Arfa ran the game unmarked. I am sure Luna will come good, but please watch the game again and see how poor he was today.
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Bacuna has given Lambert a problem now, he was very very good today.
I think Lowton has been pants this season, living off his Stokie goal. Bacuna looks rapid, eager and strong...the opposite of Lowton so far.
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These early kick offs are nice when you win. Job done, relax.
Agreed. Now I will really enjoy watching and having a larrrrf for the rest of the weekend.
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These early kick offs are nice when you win. Job done, relax.
Agreed. Now I will really enjoy watching and having a larrrrf for the rest of the weekend.
Yeah it's great.
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Bacuna has given Lambert a problem now, he was very very good today.
He hasn't given Lambert a problem. He's given Lowton a problem.
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Excellent what a great watch on BT Vision, get in there !! AVFC4EVER
I watched the game on BT Sport, and listened to the R5 commentary. There seemed to be a couple of minutes delay on BT Sport.
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Bacuna has given Lambert a problem now, he was very very good today.
Agree. AND his dead balls were good, which we have lacked since Young left really.
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These early kick offs are nice when you win. Job done, relax.
Agreed. Now I will really enjoy watching and having a larrrrf for the rest of the weekend.
My bro is getting married this afternoon. He'll enjoy the day even more now as will I!
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MANAGER REACTION: Norwich 0-1 Aston Villa
Aston Villa manager Paul Lambert: (on the injury to Christian Benteke) "The medical staff reckon it's his hip flexor. Hopefully it's not too bad. But Libor Kozak came on and scored within 90 seconds which shows he'll endear himself to the crowd."
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Oh - and slice of humble pie for me please for saying KEA should have been dropped - he did well today
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OThese early kick offs are nice when you win. Job done, relax.
Agreed. Now I will really enjoy watching and having a larrrrf for the rest of the weekend.
My bro is getting married this afternoon. He'll enjoy the day even more now as will I!
At least he knows he'll score today, but will he keep a clean sheet?
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MANAGER REACTION: Norwich 0-1 Aston Villa
Aston Villa manager Paul Lambert: (on the injury to Christian Benteke) "The medical staff reckon it's his hip flexor. Hopefully it's not too bad. But Libor Kozak came on and scored within 90 seconds which shows he'll endear himself to the crowd."
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Good to see we can still win without the beast.
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If it's only his hip flexor, he can get another one from QVC. It will be at Villa Park by Tuesday haha
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Hip flexor is one of those things that hurts a lot at the time but generally nothing long term. He'll be out for Spurs but should be ok for the weekend with a good week of treatment.
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Delighted with the three points, hope Benteke hasn't got a bad injury.
At least next week I won't have to listen to people harping on about the last time we kept a clean sheet.
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KEA had a really good game today.
Yes he did. A vast improvement on last week.
The 2nd half was torture to watch, I couldn't quite believe we held on. Against better than Norwich we would have been battered as our retention of the ball is woeful. Tonev should have been off at half time. He's clearly not up to the pace of this league. Luna was quite good going forward but poor denfincevly. KEA. Vlaar, Clark and Guzan played well as did Gabby while he was out there.
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Oh dear I really feel crap now. Been following the match on match thread and SSN and just flicking through I have found that I HAVE BT sport!
I found out just before game ...
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Can't afford Benteke being out longer than a game really.
I hope that's not £40m injury!
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How can you give a pen for handball when Clark's arm was down his side? A bit of consistency please, Refs.
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@MatKendrick: "We kept a clean sheet, we kept a clean sheet, how shit must you be, we kept a clean sheet," chant the #avfc fans
Class.
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Tonev needs to massively change his game, he can't shoot all the time.
He was horrific!
Every time we had a good counter and he got the ball, he just ended it with a selfish idiotic kick in the general direction of goal.
Needs to go be made to watch re-runs of the game until his brainpattern changes...
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How can you give a pen for handball when Clark's arm was down my side? A bit of consistency please, Refs.
What were you doing on the pitch? ;)
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How can you give a pen for handball when Clark's arm was down my side? A bit of consistency please, Refs.
What were you doing on the pitch? ;)
Ha!
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Fine result, a welcome clean sheet and some lovely football in patches.
My worry is that Norwich were pretty crap yet opened us up at will, a better team would have scoed a hatful.
Still, a welcome result.
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Great result and a clean sheet, not a great game but 3 points is all that matters and fingers crossed the injuries are nothing too serious. That was never a penalty so great to have a bit of karma on our side, and Guzan who deserves all the plaudits today, what a performance in goal. In fact it was decent defensively all round, Clark and Vlaar looked good together and Bacuna really put himself about well, Luna looked a bit out of sorts but I still rate him higher than Bennett. My main issue today was when we could have countered or held on to the ball after good defending we ended up giving it away and inviting pressure. Still, lots of positives and good for Kozak to score on his debut, good lad.
Roll on Spuds on Tuesday.
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great to see Kozak pointing to where he wanted the ball in the build up for the goal, makes the midfielders work a lot easier
a good omen I think
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Anyone get info re Gabby's injury?
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Get the fuck in there!
A really ragged game second half, but we should have been two or three up in the first half. KEA played well as did young Clacker who really brought some physicality to the game.
Never a penalty in my view, but the Goose stepped up as usual and then with a fine save in the second half. The way we headed away and dealt with their endless long punts into the box was admirable.
Great to see us grind it out. The new boys need more games to blend in, although Bacuna did well and has an excellent corner on him.
Get in Villa! Well worth the early start.
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The 2nd half was torture to watch, I couldn't quite believe we held on. Against better than Norwich we would have been battered as our retention of the ball is woeful. Tonev should have been off at half time. He's clearly not up to the pace of this league. Luna was quite good going forward but poor denfincevly. KEA. Vlaar, Clark and Guzan played well as did Gabby while he was out there.
Agreed, Bren. Second half reminded me why I hated watching us under MON. We needed the 3 points more than a good performance but it would have been nice to have had both, especially against a team that will be in the bottom 6 or 7 all season.
As others have mentioned, based on today's performance, Bacuna looks like he'll keep Lowton out the side.
Oh and happy birthday, JP.
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Great result. But we are really lacking quality all over the pitch. Our ball retention was poor and distribution just has bad. I am just going to enjoy the weekend with a clean sheet now on the board ..........
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OThese early kick offs are nice when you win. Job done, relax.
Agreed. Now I will really enjoy watching and having a larrrrf for the rest of the weekend.
My bro is getting married this afternoon. He'll enjoy the day even more now as will I!
At least he knows he'll score today, but will he keep a clean sheet?
Hahehehe... You know there is no chance of that!
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great to see Kozak pointing to where he wanted the ball in the build up for the goal, makes the midfielders work a lot easier
a good omen I think
He made couple of well-timed smart runs like at the prelude to the goal.
Got a couple of "Welcome the Premier League" tackles from the defenders but looks tough enough to adjust with some more games.
The goal will go a long way to boost his confidence hopefully.
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MANAGER REACTION: Norwich 0-1 Aston Villa
Aston Villa manager Paul Lambert: (on the injury to Christian Benteke) "The medical staff reckon it's his hip flexor. Hopefully it's not too bad. But Libor Kozak came on and scored within 90 seconds which shows he'll endear himself to the crowd."
Paul was good on BT except when asked if he considered Villa were unlucky against Chelsea and Liverpool. His reply "well you know how it is against big clubs..." Sorry Paul that will not do.
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@MatKendrick: "We kept a clean sheet, we kept a clean sheet, how shit must you be, we kept a clean sheet," chant the #avfc fans
Class.
I started that. I kept thinking I should start before the final whistle bit didn't want to anger the footballing Gods.
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Thankful for the 3 points, but poor performance.
Lumping the ball from defense to attack and cutting out the midfield isn't great entertainment.
Lost the ball way to much, poor passing, but that's expected when trying to run around at 100 mph all game.
Big loss with Tekkers out.
Weimann full of running, to greedy in front of goal, needs to look up and see his teamates.
Tonev very poor, Luna getting beaten way to much.
Guzan was outstanding and 3 points owed to him.
Kozak could be a good player for us, not a Benteke, but could compliment him well.
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Oh, and I hope someone has a word with Luna and Kojak re there rolling around. A little embarrassing for both.
Thought KEA was very good. MOM Guzan, Clarke not far behind.
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Good for Kozak. Looks like he has a good first touch and worked his balls off.
I also thought that KEA and Clark were both terrific as well, and Guzan might be the best keeper in the league.
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(http://cdn1.sbnation.com/assets/3260419/GuzanSave2.gif)
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Some good solid performances some today, obviously Guzan was class, but Clark,Bacuna,Delph,KEA and Gab before he went off. Hope Tonev just had an off day, as some of his passing was poor and lazy and could have cost us, but fcuk a clean sheet and a win was well needed. UTV
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Hip flexor? I am sure he can play without having a swig now and than!
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(http://cdn1.sbnation.com/assets/3260419/GuzanSave2.gif)
Great control by Hooper there...
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Great birthday present for me
Guzan MOM
Happy birthday JP.
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Key thing to me is our 3 best players of last season were missing and we finally have players who can come in and cover and we can win.
We are moving in the right direction slowly
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Key thing to me is our 3 best players of last season were missing and we finally have players who can come in and cover and we can win.
We are moving in the right direction slowly
Which three?
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Key thing to me is our 3 best players of last season were missing and we finally have players who can come in and cover and we can win.
We are moving in the right direction slowly
Which three?
I imagine Westwood, Lowton and Benteke, which is a good shout for our best three outfield players for last season (Guzan obviously being our player of the season).
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I thought Bacuna was hugely encouraging today, he pretty much eliminated the threat down the right.
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Key thing to me is our 3 best players of last season were missing and we finally have players who can come in and cover and we can win.
We are moving in the right direction slowly
Which three?
I imagine Westwood, Lowton and Benteke, which is a good shout for our best three outfield players for last season (Guzan obviously being our player of the season).
Fair enough. I'd have said Delph and Gabby with CB.
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I think Lowton and Westwood were better over the whole season, whereas Delph and Gabby became brilliant in the run-in.
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It was a strange game second half, we struggled to keep the ball and they didn't seem to have the first idea of how to break us down. It's a great win though.
Luna positionally is a real worry, I would certainly try Baker there midweek. Tonev was poor but Kozak can hold it up and has a decent touch.
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I thought Bacuna was hugely encouraging today, he pretty much eliminated the threat down the right.
Agreed. Looks a far better full back than midfielder. Should rightly keep Lowton out of the team if he can keep it up.
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I think we did to Norwich today what Newcastle did to us. In our case, it was Gabby tearing them apart first half.
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Key thing to me is our 3 best players of last season were missing and we finally have players who can come in and cover and we can win.
We are moving in the right direction slowly
This. And huge psychologically that we showed we can score and win without Benteke on the pitch and with Gabby going off injured.
Now to address our home form.
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Bacuna playing decently will hopefully give lowton the kick up the arse he needs.
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We needed that. The monkey of a clean sheet is off our backs and we won a game without Benteke.
Let's not get carried away though, we need everyone fit as soon as.
What a great feeling though. UTV
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I think it was a very important win too this early in the season.
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Clark and Vlaar in combination looked good today. In fairness to Vlaar the biggest compliment I could give is that I didn't notice him, he was solid.
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Got what I asked for....a dirty, scrappy 1 nil.
Funny how I didn't feel happy till I heard Bentekes injury wasnt too serious.
So, now I hear it isn't......
WAAAHHHAAYYYYY.
GET THE FUCK IN!!!!!!!?
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Well, that's nice.
Don't think I've ever woken up in the morning to news of a Villa victory.
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It seems churlish to complain about anyone after a much needed win and the first clean sheet since Charlton Heston was winning that chariot race. This fellow Tonev, however, would be of more use to the team if he had a shot at goal occasionally. I can only think its lack of confidence!
Seriously though (as Hughie used to say) I think both clubs will be fighting to stay up if thats the best they can manage. Weimann who gives 100% operates at both ends of the scale. Some of his passing was horrific. Luna although he has some skill looks out of his depth at the top level. Sorry, I know he scored (but so did Terry Donavan a long time ago) but our 7mil aquisition didnt appear to have anything that will particularly
worry top class number 5s through the season. On the credit side Guzan and the right back Bacuna were excellent. Gabby played well and Clark made some crucial interceptions in the second half.
That performance didnt fill me with any confidence Im afraid.
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It seems churlish to complain about anyone after a much needed win and the first clean sheet since Charlton Heston was winning that chariot race. This fellow Tonev, however, would be of more use to the team if he had a shot at goal occasionally. I can only think its lack of confidence!
Seriously though (as Hughie used to say) I think both clubs will be fighting to stay up if thats the best they can manage. Weimann who gives 100% operates at both ends of the scale. Some of his passing was horrific. Luna although he has some skill looks out of his depth at the top level. Sorry, I know he scored (but so did Terry Donavan a long time ago) but our 7mil aquisition didnt appear to have anything that will particularly
worry top class number 5s through the season. On the credit side Guzan and the right back Bacuna were excellent. Gabby played well and Clark made some crucial interceptions in the second half.
That performance didnt fill me with any confidence Im afraid.
You need to give the foreign players time to settle; new team, new league, Country, culture etc. It's far too early to judge - it takes a good 6 months usually to adapt.
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Tonev - don't want to get on his back as he's still adjusting to life here.. but please Lambert don't select him again for a few months. Almost cost us the game, his passing is too weak and he keeps shooting from stupid poistions.
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Is it coincidence that the players who've signed new bigger/longer contracts aren't really performing? (Benteke excepted) Weimann, Lowton, Westwood? Still can't see why Sylla is continually left out either......
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Is it coincidence that the players who've signed new bigger/longer contracts aren't really performing? (Benteke excepted) Weimann, Lowton, Westwood? Still can't see why Sylla is continually left out either......
In fairness Weimann was pretty decent today.
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Is it coincidence that the players who've signed new bigger/longer contracts aren't really performing? (Benteke excepted) Weimann, Lowton, Westwood? Still can't see why Sylla is continually left out either......
In fairness Weimann was pretty decent today.
Especially in the first half, where he hit the post and played two really good throughballs.
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Brad Guzans save reminds me of the Gordon Banks against Pele
I always thought that one was overrated.
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I also thought Weimann looked decent today. For me Clark was my motm, closely followed by Guzan, KEA and Bacuna did a good job at right back. Tonev was awful, but there again so was Bacuna IMO when he made his debut. Gabby was superb first half hour, did he have a slight injury when he went off? Anyone remember Benteke's full debut v the baggies, not exactly a great performance. Nice to see a good battling performance.
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Weimann did exactly what we needed today, he doesn't deserve any major criticism, the only players that do and Tonev who looked what he is, a young guy new to the country who isn't adjusted to the league, he needs to get the odd run out for the next few months but it'll be the new year before we can see exactly what he can become for us. Luna is a difficult one , he had a hard time against Snodgrass but I don't think he was as woeful as some are suggesting, Snodgrass was their best player by a long way and that wasn't entirely down to Luna playing badly as some people are suggesting.
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A word for Helenius. He looked tidy, intelligent with the ball and it's only the fact that he's about 6 foot 13 inches tall that makes you think he must be no more than a target man. I anticipate him coming much more into the regular frame this season. I like what I've seen so far. In fact, of Lambert's signings, only Tonev is beginning to worry me so far. We saw what Luna can do against Arsenal and he just needs a bit more discipline positionally; Bacuna is beginning to fit in nicely, has pace and useful crossing ability; Kozak showed a bit of class when he came on; and we all know what a loss Okore will be.
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Tonev, or as I now call him, Pryzbylewski, Prez for short.*
*Fans of The Wire will know.
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For me Bacuna was MOM, did'nt get beaten once, looked a bit nervous and was certainly using the old adage safety first, but i like that.Defend first, play football when you have the chance.His pace is important now Okore is out.
Guzan, steady as ever, with a few bits of top quality thrown in.A good solid goalie.
Vlaar and Clark...2 criticised players, who both defended very well, their positional sense was very good today, probably helped by Delph and KEAs work ethic in front of them.
Luna, The Norwich player, forgot his name, is a good player, not Tonys best game, but did'nt buckle.
KEA and Delph, at times Delph looks a real top quality player, good feet, good acceleration, a bit frenetic at time, but getting better and better.KEA, a good solid performance, closes down better than any player at VP, played well together.
Weimann and Tonev, have to perserve with both of them, Weimann was fluctuating between awful and very good, and Tonev was mainly just awful, but he has to stop trying too hard, and his pace and good feet suggest a good player is in there.Weimann needs to keep playing there because he offers a more attacking approach than we currently have.
Kozak, 1st half brilliant, 2nd half , not so...needs to hold the ball up better.
Gabby...brilliant today, constant threat, great crossing, missed him when he went off.
Overall, looked comfortable today, Bacuna and KEA both made a difference, good management, 1st half in partic, with a bit more composure and surity, we could have got another 2 or 3 goals.
Onwards and upwards.
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I thought Bacuna was hugely encouraging today, he pretty much eliminated the threat down the right.
Call me old-fashioned, but this is what I primarily look for in a full-back. Being good in the opponents' half is a bonus.
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Very early days for people to be knocking Tonev,I don't recall Savo or JPA being amazing in their first 3 months. Am I right that JPA didn't score until right at the end of his first season?
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Very early days for people to be knocking Tonev,I don't recall Savo or JPA being amazing in their first 3 months. Am I right that JPA didn't score until right at the end of his first season?
And his first goal was a lovely finish against Cov to help send them down. Beautiful day.
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Bacuna looked good, Gabby caused problems and that was a genuinely great save from Guzan. We looked dogged and determined as a team.
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Thought Bacuna was super, will be hard to drop him after that. Liked the look of Helenius when he came on. Weimann was poor again and why did he take gabby off ?
Tonev looks shite but at least he shoots.
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I thought Bacuna was hugely encouraging today, he pretty much eliminated the threat down the right.
Call me old-fashioned, but this is what I primarily look for in a full-back. Being good in the opponents' half is a bonus.
You are old fashioned!
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Thought Bacuna was super, will be hard to drop him after that. Liked the look of Helenius when he came on. Weimann was poor again and why did he take gabby off ?
Tonev looks shite but at least he shoots.
Weimann wasn't poor, and Gabby was injured. Helenius looks potentially useful, Tonev does shoot but far too much.
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Thought Bacuna was super, will be hard to drop him after that. Liked the look of Helenius when he came on. Weimann was poor again and why did he take gabby off ?
Tonev looks shite but at least he shoots.
Weimann wasn't poor, and Gabby was injured. Helenius looks potentially useful, Tonev does shoot but far too much.
There's a man who knows his own opinion and is to the point!
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Sorry, I know he scored (but so did Terry Donavan a long time ago) but our 7mil aquisition didnt appear to have anything that will particularly worry top class number 5s through the season.
You've decided that after he's had barely 90 minutes for us?
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Sorry, I know he scored (but so did Terry Donavan a long time ago) but our 7mil aquisition didnt appear to have anything that will particularly worry top class number 5s through the season.
You've decided that after he's had barely 90 minutes for us?
Also, how many truly top class defenders are there in the Premier League? Probably three - Kompany, Vidic and maybe the c**t Terry.
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Sorry, I know he scored (but so did Terry Donavan a long time ago) but our 7mil aquisition didnt appear to have anything that will particularly worry top class number 5s through the season.
You've decided that after he's had barely 90 minutes for us?
To be fair, he didn't do much up until the time he scored!
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Sorry, I know he scored (but so did Terry Donavan a long time ago) but our 7mil aquisition didnt appear to have anything that will particularly worry top class number 5s through the season.
You've decided that after he's had barely 90 minutes for us?
Perhaps that's unfair of me. Ill give him a few more games and hopefully revise my intial opinion.
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I thought our ball retention 2nd half was worryingly shit. We need to work on holding possession. We also sat deeper and deeper , an age old problem.
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Get in there good result and a clean sheet Brad was my man of the match.
Yes
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Sorry, I know he scored (but so did Terry Donavan a long time ago) but our 7mil aquisition didnt appear to have anything that will particularly worry top class number 5s through the season.
You've decided that after he's had barely 90 minutes for us?
I thought he looked pretty useful.
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Happy with a win. Assuming Tekkers is out for a month or less I am also fine with our new forwards getting a few starts.
Scrappy, but sod it, sometimes scrappy is needed.
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Sorry, I know he scored (but so did Terry Donavan a long time ago) but our 7mil aquisition didnt appear to have anything that will particularly worry top class number 5s through the season.
You've decided that after he's had barely 90 minutes for us?
Also, how many truly top class defenders are there in the Premier League? Probably three - Kompany, Vidic and maybe the c**t Terry.
And Donacien to come!
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Untried, unproven, inexperienced but has potential.
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I thought our ball retention 2nd half was worryingly shit. We need to work on holding possession. We also sat deeper and deeper , an age old problem.
I would love to disagree but unfortunately yes, yes and yes.
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Our passing is terrible at times... unforced errors will get punished by the better teams. This is a basic thing though, which surely can be sorted.
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Vital win - quality secondary. LWB (Life Without Benteke) was tested for the first time and I believe we passed the test well. For everything I thought was bad about Bacuna in the game against Liverpool I thought the opposite today. I thought he was outstanding and added some real steel but control to the right side of defence - Lowton should beware! Well done for grinding it out. Tonev wtf? Luna is an atrocious defender. Kozak just getting warmed up - think he will be good.
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Phew we needed that, still work to be done but great to have a clean sheet.
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Good good win that. Norwich have only lost twice in their last 12 home games, both to us.
Bow down to Brad aswell, the clean sheet was down to him.
Just hoping Benteke injury isn't too bad, we are half the team going forward without him linking it all up.
And for all the money they've spent Norwich remain a poor poor team who will be scrapping to stay out of the bottom 3, we are better than those sorts of teams this year.
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Must admit Kozak's first shot - aiming it at the keeper's near-side when the other end was gaping makes me think he's far from a natural striker. Gabby really baled him out. Speaking of Gabby, I love the lad. He knows the league so well and always looks our most dangerous player when he has the ball. I feared the worst when he went off.
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Thought Norwich were quite dirty today tbh, bit stoke'ish lots of elbows pushes and late high tackles. I'd like us to step up the physicality in games like this and kick the fuckers back a bit. Would like to mention Clark today, probably his best ever game for us IMHO.
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I fail to see how grinding a one nil win out away from home at a tough place to pick up three points means we're likely to struggle to stay up.
Presumably these same people were saying we will struggle in the week as we're incapable of grounding out such victories.
This all pails mind compared to those writing of Kozak after less than 90 minutes (despite scoring the winner and turning the Norwich defence when he should have bagged a second) and Tonev because he undercooked two paces and had the cheek to shoot.
Needless to say, I thought we played well. I was impressed by our central two. KEA really got stuck in, while Delph was his exceptional self. Bacuna and his pace stopped anything down the left. Clark has been much maligned, often justly, but today he stood up and really provided some physical presence.
The second half was a poor game compared to the chances we had carved in the first, but we limited them to one effort, beautifully saved, and we should have nabbed one on the break.
We recycled possession too easily, while Tonev needs to get his head up. That said, he had more shots than our entire midfield normally has in a season, which I will applaud him for and not moronically write him off.
Bacuna puts a mean corner in and we looked capable of scoring from them too. Strange times indeed.
All in all I am very pleased with the result and the manner of the performance, it wasn't backs to the wall, but there was some areial pressure.
Good to see that Bluenosed runt continue a theme of English wingers with an inability to cross the road, nevermind the ball.
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I wish to change my previous reply to Ads. The more I think about it, the happier I am with todays performance.
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The performance was fine, winning at a tough place to go is a good result. We showed defensive grit and coped with losing two of our best players, I'm very happy with that result.
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any news on big Ben the beast injury hoping to hear something on here . Well done kozak excellent to score on debut looks like in safe goal scoring hands with him up there . Such a handful far more effective than bent. Proven scorer showed he can do business . I thought albrighton was unlucky not to get on for tonev . I mainly enjoyed the excellent guzan . Kozak and baccuna play today. But Clark was outstanding today as was delph who continues to perform . Clark was great at reading and intercepting and apart from penalty faultless . Showed how he's been a captain and was determined to finish a winner today
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Not even a Benteke injury and the away end not having any Delia pies left at 12:15 could spoil the day. Thank you Norwich, you're rapidly becoming my favourite away trip.
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I don't think people having a go at Tonev for his shoot-on-sight policy are moronic. It's a valid observation. He's going to have to learn not to shoot his load so quickly. It's John Ruddy and his ruddy cheeks he's aiming at, not some Bulgarian beauty.
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Sorry, I know he scored (but so did Terry Donavan a long time ago) but our 7mil aquisition didnt appear to have anything that will particularly worry top class number 5s through the season.
You've decided that after he's had barely 90 minutes for us?
Also, how many truly top class defenders are there in the Premier League? Probably three - Kompany, Vidic and maybe the c**t Terry.
John Terry most certainly is not, and never has been, a top class defender.
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Sorry, I know he scored (but so did Terry Donavan a long time ago) but our 7mil aquisition didnt appear to have anything that will particularly worry top class number 5s through the season.
You've decided that after he's had barely 90 minutes for us?
Also, how many truly top class defenders are there in the Premier League? Probably three - Kompany, Vidic and maybe the c**t Terry.
John Terry most certainly is not, and never has been, a top class defender.
Doesn't mean he's not a c**t, but Mourinho's not the type to overrate centre backs. Without Mourinho Terry wouldn't be a top class defender, but with the tactical knowledge imparted I think he's got better than he should be.
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Good good win that. Norwich have only lost twice in their last 12 home games, both to us.
Thanks for pointing that out and respect to Brad for knowing his facts. In his interview after the match he said "not many teams have find success here tough place so we are pleased with the result" and I thought he was just being a little patronising after the result! But he was stating the facts.
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Good result, nice to keep a clean sheet. Having heard the team selection I thought we would get beaten.
Aside from the injuries I have a few concerns though:
- Injuries. What's wrong with Lowton? Hopefully Benteke/Gabby/Westwood back soon.
- Luna - I've seen him play live 4 times and he simply isn't good enough (yet). Get Bennett back in (or play Clark there and Baker CB)
- Tonev - Saw him against Malaga. As a few people have said, seems to have some talent but has a lot to learn.
Other than that, well played boys.
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UPDATE: Saturday, Sept. 21
From Aston Villa's official Twitter feed:
Paul Lambert told by his medical team that Christian Benteke has a hip flexor injury. Hopes it's not too serious. #AVFC
— Aston Villa FC (@AVFCOfficial) September 21, 2013
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Prognosis of a hip flexor strain
With appropriate management, patients with a minor hip flexor strain can usually recover in one to three weeks. With larger tears, recovery may take four to eight weeks or longer depending on the severity. Complete ruptures of the hip flexor muscles are rare and are usually managed conservatively. In these cases, recovery may be significantly longer.
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Bloody hell, that was a long drive back. No way would I make that trip for a 3pm KO.
Anyhow, a good result. First half was very entertaining. It could easily have been 2-2 at the half. Andi confidence in front of goal seems shot at the moment.
Delph was MOTM for me. Its getting like Barry a few season's ago, where I just assume that he's going to be MOTM unless somebody has a real stormer.
I'm not sure what to make of Tonev. There's probably a good player in there somewhere but he could have cost us the game today.
Good to see Kozak and the Gladiator getting some time together.
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Just back.
Great 3 points and a clean sheet.
Brad was immense! Penalty save kept peckers up when we could have gone undeservedly down. His save late on was Banksesque from my view.
Bacuna did a great job and was taking no shit from Norwich players or fans. Clark too was quick to win his headers and made 2/3 vital interceptions.
Tonev needs to make the most of the possession he has (same for all Villa players today!) and Kozac looks a tough character to have in the team - even when he didn't win balls in the air he made it difficult for them to get a clean head on it and he battled on the floor as well. Would have liked Sylla to have been on earlier. The more he played last season the better he was - he needs game time. Hope he plays Tuesday.
btw - linesman on our side was truly shit - in the space of 3 minutes towards the end of the 1st half he missed 2 offsides, pulling on Luna's shirt (right in front of him!) and a clear Villa throw in which he gave to them - twunt! I gave him lots of advice and he ignored it all! ;-)
UTV!
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Just got back from what seemed like a never ending A road and endless signs for Swaffham.
Bearing in mind the players we had out, that was a cracking win. I thought Bacuna found it tough in that right back role for the first 20 minutes or so but was fine after that. KEA proved what a useful squad player he's going to be this season, he did really well again. I think Tonev's role was to protect Bacuna and although he didn't have the best of games, he's another one who might take a while to properly settle in. I'm liking Kozak though, i can see him scoring his fair share once he settles in.
Man of the match though, Brad. Caught everything, saved a penalty and that save near the end was superb.
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Man of the match though, Brad. Caught everything, saved a penalty and that save near the end was superb.
Statistically the Villa player with most touches in the match today.
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Pleasing result and the clean sheet was well deserved. Guzan was exceptional today. Well done Villa. Keep it up.
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Whichever way we managed it, we managed it. 3 vital points, with the games we have coming up.
After waiting so long for one, let's hope that clean sheet today is habit forming. Brad and Bacuna were the pick of the bunch for me today.
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How long was Helenius on for and how did he do?
Also really encouraging to hear good reviews about Bacuna and KEA. I think Lambo got it about right with the players he chose to drop (Lowton) and not drop (KEA).
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Still in Nooooorwich. Thought Gabby's first half performance was great. Weimann looked good at the time but dropped off. How good will Delph be in 2-3 years if he continues like this?
As has been said earlier, Guzan made a Gordon Banks vs Pele save.
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Still in Nooooorwich. Thought Gabby's first half performance was great. Weimann looked good at the time but dropped off. How good will Delph be in 2-3 years if he continues like this?
As has been said earlier, Guzan made a Gordon Banks vs Pele save.
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Not a fan of Clark but as ever more than happy to eat humble pie when he plays well. Good result. Naaaar-iitch aren't great but then neither are we. We just have to be better than 3 others though I suspect we will be better than 8 or 9 others come end of the season.
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Norwich dont lose many games at home, it was a great result. Clark does get stick, but I like his attitude on the pitch and he always gives his all.
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I must have watched a different game, i lost count of the times Weiman gave the ball away making the simplest of passes, i give him credit for effort but he really is out of sorts. Fingers crossed we may have found a good back up for Benteke but all in all these were two teams one poor the other diabolical who will both struggle this season.
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Weimann has always been that sort of player. Which is why I doubt he'll ever play for a top side.
He gives the ball away horribly. Look at his first 40.mins v Man U at home last season.
But then he can come up with moments of quality. His shot off the post. His toe poke at goal. His pass to kozak
Not been in great form this year so far. But it really fucks me off when fans lazily attribute this to "complacency or feeling safe". Find me a keener player in our recent history
Ridiculous
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Terribe run and pass by Weiman for our goal that won the game today
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I fail to see how grinding a one nil win out away from home at a tough place to pick up three points means we're likely to struggle to stay up.
We went to Chelsea, played brilliantly, but got nothing.
We went to Norwich today, didn't play brilliantly, but got three points.
That's just the way it is, I too do not understand why some people don't seem to understand this. Good teams play well and win matches frequently, yes, but they also grind out results with unconvincing performances.
Not that I am comparing us to them, but how many times in the Ferguson era, for example, did we see Man United play really unconvincingly and nick a win? Literally hundreds of times.
Same goes for those who aren't convinced with the importance of our counter attacking. Ferguson's Man United were a great team when in possession of the ball, but they were even better as a counter attacking side.
Three points today was very important, and we got them.
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I watched the game with a palace fan today, he couldn't believe he hadn't heard of Wiemann before and thought his technique and quality was amazing...
Refreshing to hear when we all think he is not on form.
Also Suarez syndrome, I thought gabby and Wiemann looked better when benteke went off, not that this is a solution but highlights the team are using him as an outlet to much for me!
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I fail to see how grinding a one nil win out away from home at a tough place to pick up three points means we're likely to struggle to stay up.
We went to Chelsea, played brilliantly, but got nothing.
We went to Norwich today, didn't play brilliantly, but got three points.
That's just the way it is, I too do not understand why some people don't seem to understand this. Good teams play well and win matches frequently, yes, but they also grind out results with unconvincing performances.
Agreed, and it's something as a side we need to develop in our arsenal, the ability to win whilst not playing at our best.
There was plenty of talk last week about this side not being able to grind out results. This week they have, so any criticism seems a bit off.
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Call me Nostradamus. This is what I said just after the extent of the Okore injury was announced.
Watch us get a clean sheet at Norwich now.
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I've been out all day, any news on the Benteke injury?
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Apparently his hip flask is leaking.
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I've been out all day, any news on the Benteke injury?
Nothing definitive other than it is a hip flexor which requires further diagnosis. I expect if it isn't too serious he'll miss a week or two at most.
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Thanks muchly chaps. It was weird not knowing how we got on today until I saw us on MOTD.
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Thanks muchly chaps. It was weird not knowing how we got on today until I saw us on MOTD.
Have we been on yet?
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It will be interesting to see whether a period without Benteke leaves us looking toothless or whether it's helpful in teaching us to play without him. Kozak wasn't able to dominate in the air in the way he can. That migth mean we struggle, or it might mean we play better through midfield. I'm not sure what the tactical answer to doing that is though to be honest. I'm pretty sure it isn't 442.
A couple of points on our form too:
1. We've not played great so far in terms of passing football. But I think the league generally has been a bit like that. Not many teams are playing good stuff consistently. Perhaps the stop start nature of the season hasn't helped?
2. This is more true at home than away, obviously. But I note that we were one of four teams to win away yesterday, none of them the outright favourites. Liverpool have been feted for their style, but haven't scored more than one goal in a game this season I don't think, nor a single second half goal.
So the point I'm making is that we're not alone in stuttering.
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Good points Matt. Just on Benteke it's fair to say whilst he has scored 4 goals he has been generally very quiet in all the games. So based on this season his overall play contribution will not be a loss however scoring instinct is a gift and that could be a problem.
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Thanks muchly chaps. It was weird not knowing how we got on today until I saw us on MOTD.
Have we been on yet?
The whole match can be watched on BT Sport starting at 10!
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Apparently his hip flask is leaking.
I LOLed at this. Thank you!
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Thanks muchly chaps. It was weird not knowing how we got on today until I saw us on MOTD.
Are you posting from the 1980s?
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Not for the first time we are last on MOTD. Again. And it won't be the last time will it . Grrrr. Rant over.
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I was initially annoyed about us being last, but it was only a one nil, and after recent form and last seasons placings, it was kind of understandable on this occasion.
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No motd conspiracy theories please! Unless there's a massive game, they basically put games on in order of the excitement / number of goals scored. So Chelsea were penultimate. Our game had fewest games and were last. The Everton and Newcastle games were the first two
OR there's a massive conspiracy by the London / Manchester media.
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We only won ten games last season and five of those were in our last ten games. Going into 10 February against West Ham we had only won four games all season.
We have already won two games from our first five, and those fixtures have included Arsenal away, Liverpool at home and Chelsea away!
Objectively, you'd have to think we will be well clear of a relegation scrap this season.
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Sorry to be going against the conspiracy theory but I thought there were quite a few highlights of the game despite us being last and it being a bit of a gritty game. It wasn't as if they just showed the goal and said Good night. I'm sure there will be times to moan about our coverage but I don't think this was one.
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A scrappy game between two average teams that mustered just one goal, and was already shown live earlier in the day. You really think MOTD are gonna put it one near the start?
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Good points Matt. Just on Benteke it's fair to say whilst he has scored 4 goals he has been generally very quiet in all the games. So based on this season his overall play contribution will not be a loss however scoring instinct is a gift and that could be a problem.
True, he has been a little quiet, but in the time he was on the pitch yesterday there were signs we was 'waking up'. He was getting really involved, and there were some lovely lays off and touches from him. Some of his 'football' was brilliant.
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A scrappy, hard thought 1-0 win. Fucking heaven.
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Nathan Redmond is a niggly little moaner isn't he?
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Just seen the handball again. It was ridiculous, especially when you compare it to Terry's at Chelsea.
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Great result. How is Benteke?
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Just seen the handball again. It was ridiculous, especially when you compare it to Terry's at Chelsea.
If you look at his face he doesn't even know where the ball is until it hits his hand.
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Daylight robbery. Luna and Tonev have a lot to earn. Weimann remains out of form. Good job Norwich are crap. And that we have MOTM Brad. Can we play every week at Carrow Road?! Woohoo!!
I thought Weimann played well yesterday, he is the sort who can be relayed on to do the tough defensive work as well as attacking.
More positives than negatives, second half we played well, so did they, second it was more about digging in and we did that better than we have for a long time. Clean sheet is great, Guzan was easily our MOTM and the new striker scoring is another plus. Once again my main down point is that we didn't keep the ball well enough throughout the game and so invited pressure onto us.
But yeah a good win which hopefully should set up a decent week in both cup and League.
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Apologies if already mentioned, but I believe Michael Owen to be a massive wanker.
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Apologies if already mentioned, but I believe Michael Owen to be a massive wanker.
No he's just really dull, not sure which is worse. Why do you bring him up?
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Apologies if already mentioned, but I believe Michael Owen to be a massive wanker.
Even he didn't think it was a penalty.
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Apologies if already mentioned, but I believe Michael Owen to be a massive wanker.
No he's just really dull, not sure which is worse. Why do you bring him up?
There was massive dose of dullness watching the game with both Owen and Halsey commenting. I initially thought it's a brilliant idea by BT to have an ex-con giving his opinion as well but Halsey was disappointing.
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I think having a recently retired PL ex-ref as part of the commentary team gives a different take on the usual drivel from co-commentators. Halsey said he wouldn't have given the penalty against us yesterday and thought Foy got it wrong.
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Apologies if already mentioned, but I believe Michael Owen to be a massive wanker.
He's actually quite insightful it's just the dull monotone but he will improve as Alan smith had to
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Apologies if already mentioned, but I believe Michael Owen to be a massive wanker.
He's actually quite insightful it's just the dull monotone but he will improve as Alan smith had to
He's about as insightful as Mark Lawrenson. Cliches inc.
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I just read the 'report' of our game in the Sun. I can only assume to bloke writing the report didn't watch the game. Here are a few examples -
- Ciaran Clark 'Gave away penalty with a handball in the box 5'. Ludicrous he had an excellent game.
- Antonio Luna 'Coped well with the threat of Snodgrass 6'. Nope he had a mare.
- KEA 'Needs to start scoring more 5'. Since he was our defensive midfielder I don't think so.
- Alexander Tonev 'Shot wide in the 56th minute. Solid'. He was anything but solid.
Also apparently we really lucky and Norwich should have been out of sight by the time we scored, ignoring the fact we'd hit the post.
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I get the distinct impression that Sun match reports are written with the benefit of watching MOTD (or perhaps Goals on Sunday!)
Normally if you win, everyone gets a 7, except the scorers who get 8, and anyone involved in a goal for the other team who gets a 5 or 6. I would take no notice!
On Weimann, he was definitely hit and miss. He normally is. But he provided telling contributions to most of our best moves, including the goal.
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Apologies if already mentioned, but I believe Michael Owen to be a massive wanker.
I wouldn't say he's a wanker, just a bit boring.
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I get the distinct impression that Sun match reports are written with the benefit of watching MOTD (or perhaps Goals on Sunday!)
Normally if you win, everyone gets a 7, except the scorers who get 8, and anyone involved in a goal for the other team who gets a 5 or 6. I would take no notice!
On Weimann, he was definitely hit and miss. He normally is. But he provided telling contributions to most of our best moves, including the goal.
Weimann did well yesterday and showed signs of returning to form, he was a lot more sharp.
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Think AW just needs that elusive goal. He's unlucky when he's hit that post
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I think having a recently retired PL ex-ref as part of the commentary team gives a different take on the usual drivel from co-commentators. Halsey said he wouldn't have given the penalty against us yesterday and thought Foy got it wrong.
Just great....we get something from Halsey and it doesn't matter ... huh
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Thanks muchly chaps. It was weird not knowing how we got on today until I saw us on MOTD.
Are you posting from the 1980s?
Yes. I was at Nik Kershaw concert.
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Apologies if already mentioned, but I believe Michael Owen to be a massive wanker.
I wouldn't say he's a wanker, just a bit boring.
I wouldn't say he was a bit boring, I'd say he is a boring overpaid, over regarded dullard. I like him a lot more than Ian Wright though ???
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I think having a recently retired PL ex-ref as part of the commentary team gives a different take on the usual drivel from co-commentators. Halsey said he wouldn't have given the penalty against us yesterday and thought Foy got it wrong.
Halsey would have given a penalty against us if it was in their box if he could the wanker. "Oooh take it quick Thierry they're not ready"
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Guzan and Clarke are both in the BBC team of the week, and rightly so.