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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Legion on September 13, 2013, 07:29:13 PM
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Team news?
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Missing this one due to holiday in Algarve. Will be watching it in the Ancora in Albufeira if any H&V around.
No messing now just win to get the season going after the last two.
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no team news yet? normally announced by 2. Im relying on you boys..
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Guzan
Lowton
Vlaar
Okore
Luna
El Ahmadi
Westwood
Delph
Weimann
Agbonlahor
Benteke
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thanks villa kicks
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Yes good the usual team far too good for Newcastle.
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That's the right eleven for me. We need Delph to bomb forwards from the middle though, to really hem Newcastle in their third.
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Remy, Ben Arfa and Cisse, with Cabeye, Sissokho and Anita in behind suggests if they click it will in no way be a walk in the park.
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Remy, Ben Arfa and Cisse, with Cabeye, Sissokho and Anita in behind suggests if they click it will in no way be a walk in the park.
They do have some really good players. Let's hope that it's still all going southwards for them mentally.
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@villamadtweets: Villa: Guzan Lowton Vlaar Okore Luna El Ahmadi Westwood Agbonlahor Delph Benteke Weimann
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Come on you Villa boys we really need a win today.
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Remy, Ben Arfa and Cisse, with Cabeye, Sissokho and Anita in behind suggests if they click it will in no way be a walk in the park.
They do have some really good players. Let's hope that it's still all going southwards for them mentally.
I just hope after the 3 big games we don't think we just have this won.
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Jaysus, the match-thread looks like it will struggle to get into double figures. What's the bench? Libor on there, I heard.
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Come on Villa! :D
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@MatKendrick: Villa subs: Steer, Clark, Bacuna, Helenius, Sylla, Tonev, Kozak #
Very strong bench .
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Jaysus, the match-thread looks like it will struggle to get into double figures. What's the bench? Libor on there, I heard.
Steer, Clark, Bacuna, Helenius, Sylla, Tonev, and Kozak. Attacking.
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Come on Villa, early goal and put these fcukers to the sword. UTV
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Come On You Lions.
We need to get some more points on the board.
I'm happy with that starting line up and yes, the bench is looking strong.
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I must say, I don't mind when Beelzebub is co-commentator, at least he can be quite complementary towards us.
Barry Horne and Tony Gale never have a good word to say about us.
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That Newcastle side looks good to me, come on Villa please win.
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Come on Villa.
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Afternoon chaps.
It's surprising, given how shit they have been for a while now, to see how many good players Newcastle have. Still think we might get the win though.
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That's our best 11 and bench for me.
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I think Sylla has been really unlucky not to have started the season in the side, but KEA has done really well.
They are a much better side than last season, or popular belief suggests.
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I think I'd agree with that, although it still lacks a bit of flair in the middle. Good to see Vlaar and Okore starting together again, I'd say that's the centre-back pairing settled now, assuming no complete nightmares.
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I had a dream the other night that I met Gabby and got on really well with him but then he blocked me on twitter. I was gutted.
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Nice football that led to that corner, but Newcastle have started a bit better than us.
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We need to get control in the midfield, they're very dangerous going forward.
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How is everyone following this game? I'm listening to TalkSport, but they keep talking about everything but the Villa game!
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Without a player that the ball sticks to and thus gives us natural possession of the ball, we are very set up to counter.
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Well, this is just a splendid start....
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Why do we always invite teams onto us at the start of games?
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Come on villa. We shouldn't be second best to these.
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We are struggling here, we've been quite sloppy we need to sharpen up a lot.
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Without a player that the ball sticks to and thus gives us natural possession of the ball, we are very set up to counter.
That should be Westwood and KEA, but given that Westwood's off form KEA's all on his own.
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How is that not a foul as it is played forward to Benteke then?
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Shocking lazy ball from KEA there nearly cost us.
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Afternoon chaps hows it going and how are we doing?
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Really poor and slow so far , newcastle the better team by a distance.
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We're looking shit.
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We have been horrible for 10 minutes here.
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Afternoon chaps hows it going and how are we doing?
Hi Fergal. Pretty badly and pretty badly.
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We have been so fucking sloppy, this is really poor.
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i fancied us to boss this one, are missing a Petrov type player?
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It's just the Liverpool game all over again.
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Get hold of the ball Villa and get some control please.
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I still think watching them Weimann and Westwood are a distance from the players they were last season.
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We should be attacking them. They aren't Liverpool or Chelsea.
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We are looking very sloppy.
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Afternoon chaps hows it going and how are we doing?
Hi Fergal. Pretty badly and pretty badly.
Whats up and whats up?
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Not good so far Villa. Come on get hold in midfield
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We do start games slowly don't we?
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I don't know what's going on here, but we look laughably shit. Just no focus at all, what the hell kind of preparation have they been doing?!
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Remy and Ben Arfa have one thought when they get the ball. Hit the floor and roll about.
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I still think watching them Weimann and Westwood are a distance from the players they were last season.
Bumper new contract syndrome
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Sounds like all our other games so far this season, so far. Need to not concede while they're on top and then hopefully we'll come into it.
I can't see the game, but Westwood's passing has been poor so far this season. And Weimann's touch has been really poor so far too.
Need to get a grip. Newcastle's front three certainly looks dangerous on paper.
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Afternoon chaps hows it going and how are we doing?
Hi Fergal. Pretty badly and pretty badly.
Whats up and whats up?
Oh, just the usual. The visiting team look like the home team and the actual home team are struggling to string two passes together, and sometimes even one pass seems beyond them. That old thing.
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The players need to sharpen up a lot, this is not good enough at all. Fucking come on Villa.
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At least Guzan is awake.
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Afternoon chaps hows it going and how are we doing?
Hi Fergal. Pretty badly and pretty badly.
Whats up and whats up?
Oh, just the usual. The visiting team look like the home team and the actual home team are struggling to string two passes together, and sometimes even one pass seems beyond them. That old thing.
keep the faith, it will all come good.
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Shit!
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Do they look nervous, or going long too early, or are we getting overpowered physically in midfield?
It's funny that Lambert made a real thing about how we'd learned to start games better after last year. It doesn't look like it so far.
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Fucking woeful Villa. Woeful.
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Newcastle should be ahead based on play so there ohfuck
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Lowton has been below par recently - beaten too easily , poor goal
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Bollocks
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Fair play and thoroughly deserved. All KEA's fault.
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That was coming. All day long.
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Our passing has been woeful and that has been coming, we've been fucking shit. Sort your fucking selves out Villa.
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Why oh why can't they come out the blocks like a bullet - at home. All I hear is how good Benteke is - from other clubs fans.
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1-0 Newcastle. Wankers.
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Crap defending.
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fuck me....
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Dreadful opening 20 minutes - absolutely awful !
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Well that seemed to be coming.
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Fucking Arfa always scores against us. Deserve to be behind. Been a truly piss poor display.
One I feared.
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26 games......
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Lowton is getting slaughtered down the right at the moment, but to be honest they've all been lazy, sloppy and dreadful. Wake the fuck up Villa.
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We are playing very poorly. Totally deserve to be one down
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Fair play and thoroughly deserved. All KEA's fault.
How dare he be pulled over. :|
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Load of wank. Any chance we can show we're not a counter-attacking team?
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Shocked by how poor we have looked.
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on this performance we will have a season like last year. need to get a grip and play some football..
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Dear Lord. Absolutely appalling. The players look as though they just got our of bed two minute before kick off. And with a major hangover at that. Shite.
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Delphs looking lively at least.
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Finally Delph trying to drive at the defence.
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Kea has looked so far today what he looked last season.
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I think we can consign a league clean sheet as rare as a FA Cup Final win
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Sounds like we're getting a right going over, down our right in particular - Lowton and Weimann's side.
If a few of our players have second season syndrome, we're going to need these new signings to settle in quickly. To be honest, I really don't think I could bear another season spent in the bottom six. There were times last year when I felt on the verge of losing interest.
Need to get a grip here.
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KEA is having a bit of a stinker so far.
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Fair play and thoroughly deserved. All KEA's fault.
How dare he be pulled over. :|
He wasn't fouled. He was too weak and played for the foul. He gave the ball away dangerously for the third time.
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Delph and Gabby looking the only awake ones again. Worrying this performance.
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Our midfield is powder puff weak. None of them have a defined role. Even Delph, while he's looked impressive lately, essentially just runs around a lot. None of our midfielders are especially good at scoring goals, creating goals or stopping opposition from scoring goals. That goal started with El Ahmadi just being bullied off the ball.
Why can't we just have a couple of big bastards there to break up opposition attacks, and one creative attacking mid who scores goals.
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Shocked at this.
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The amount of games without a clean sheet is an utter disgrace
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We have options on the bench ., if this lot can't do it then lambert can change things - sylla would be useful.
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Delph and Gabby looking the only awake ones again. Worrying this performance.
Very worrying. It looks a lot like the kind of performance we had to watch last season.
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That was much better.
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Does sound like Sylla for KEA and Bacuna for Lowton might be options worth considering. But that'd leave only one offensive sub option to try and get goals.
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We know how to win from 1 down, though.
Have done lots of times!
Come on, CB and the lads!
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Sylla is a must for me. He is the only one robust enough to shield the defence. Not a coincidence he started most of the games we won last season.
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Cant afford to start shit for 20 mins each week- need to start much better.
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An injured Villa defender? Surely not?
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Thank god okores quick.
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Our passing started to look good by the end of last season. But been poor this year so far.
A win here, nor a defeat, should be read into too much. But was really hoping for three points today. We can't come back from a goal down in every game.
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This is not a good Newcastle side. I get the feeling that if we settle down, play football we will win this. We just needed that experienced player in midfield to get a grip of the game.
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Fucking hell Weimann sort your touch out, we were saved by Okore's pace there.
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We have options on the bench ., if this lot can't do it then lambert can change things - sylla would be useful.
I thought Sylla has been very unlucky to be edged out by KEA so far this season. Sylla being in the team coincided with our excellent run at the back end of last year. He's way more physical than KEA, who I still don't rate.
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Every fucking game a central defender gets injured.
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Fuck Okore is buggered here. Tweaked his tendons possibly? Looked in trouble as he went like his studs caught as he turned. Been our best defender again by a bloody mile so far.
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In fact, I remember how stressful these match threads are. I'm signing off till later!
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That's all we need, Okore fucking injured.
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Great Okore's fucked, that's a disaster for us.
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Okore off. Big, big blow. He is a top player in the making. Clark coming on.
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Lawton and midfield in all struggling
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Oh good. The return of Vlaark.
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Okore off. Big, big blow. He is a top player in the making. Clark coming on.
Massive blow, additionally there is absolutely no movement from our players at all.
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Bollocks Okores going off. Looks like Ligaments to me.
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I hope it's not serious we need him in the side.
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Hmm. Clark against their forwards. Would be surprised if we don't concede more.
And now really signing off.
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Well i never expected this performance - okore may have knee ligament damage to top it all off.
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Clark isn't good enough. Not holding out any hope of keeping them at 1.
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Real blow with Okore going off.
Really disappointing stuff so far. Not looking inspired, or just creative. We look tired for some bizarre reason bearing in mind we've had 3 weeks off.
Must do better.
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We will do well to go in only 1-0 down.
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This is really nowhere near good enough. I don't think the introduction of a target man is going to sort this out.
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Need a win here otherwise the feel good factor will be fast disappearing.
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Big loss, hopefully he won't be out for long.
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Awful.
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And Delph booked again. And again, and again, and again....
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Stupid booking for Delph - again!
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What a big fucking cliche we've been today.
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This is not a good Newcastle side. I get the feeling that if we settle down, play football we will win this. We just needed that experienced player in midfield to get a grip of the game.
On paper their players are way better than ours. For once they're showing it on grass.
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Weimann off at half time for me, he's been awful.
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Anyone that thinks their front side is not good needs their head read. Their first 11 is excellent on paper.
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Similar to the first half last season against newcastle - appalling.
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Weimann off at half time for me, he's been awful.
He's been crap alright, but he's not alone. The midfield looks all wrong to me, and has none of the balance that we appeared to be getting when Sylla was playing. He's no world beater, but he did complement the team.
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The midfield looks totally at sea.
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Need sylla on - NOW!
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Weimann off at half time for me, he's been awful.
He's been crap alright, but he's not alone. The midfield looks all wrong to me, and has none of the balance that we appeared to be getting when Sylla was playing. He's no world beater, but he did complement the team.
No I know, but we're limited on changes now. I'd have Sylla on for KEA any day.
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KEA's been better than Westwood. At least he's moving off the ball.
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Ok. I know we all hate the pube-headed one. But can someone just explain how we look different from when we played at home in, say, 2009? As far as I can tell, we have Benteke instead of Heskey and that's basically it.
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KEA's been better than Westwood. At least he's moving off the ball.
Not for me - kea must come off.
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Westwood and Kea far to pedestrian today, with and without the ball. Bentekes barely touched the ball.
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Arsenal was a flash in the pan by the looks of things.
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Have we had a shot?
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Well still win by the way.
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Ok. I know we all hate the pube-headed one. But can someone just explain how we look different from when we played at home in, say, 2009? As far as I can tell, we have Benteke instead of Heskey and that's basically it.
We don't. Just the wide players are not as good. Put Milner, Downing and Young in this side and it would be a lot better than that one.
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Terrible from Weimann there.
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What the fuck Andi? Sub him off for that.
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FFS Andi.
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What's happened to Weimann?
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Really poor from Weimann - what a shit 45 mins.
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Fucking hell Weimann!
Pass the bastard ball.
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Andi you did everything wrong there. AWFUL.
Pass it to Gabby.
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Should have played that to gabby. Would have been a great goal.
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Actually, yeah. Weimann needs to come off. Because that was just shit.
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I can't think Kozak will be any worse than that!
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Actually, yeah. Weimann needs to come off. Because that was just shit.
I'm fuming. That was so selfish!
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Jesus, and so was that. We need to make about nine substitutions.
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You can't blame the forwards for panicking a bit in front of goal. They know they're going to have to score three if we're to have any chance of winning.
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Kozak for Weimann and sylla for kea !
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There's some aimless long passes going on from us.
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And that is why Benteke is not a number 10.
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Weimann needs to be out of the side for me. He needs some bench time. I don't care who it is coming in for him, but he needs 2-3 games to give a bit of thought.
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Kodak for KEA. Change the system.
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Well still win by the way.
this
VTID
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I thinks I'd bring Tonev on for Weimann. I haven't got a clue if he's any good or not, but at this point he couldn't be any worse.
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Starting to look very much like the win at Arsenal was a fluke
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I thinks I'd bring Tonev on for Weimann. I haven't got a clue if he's any good or not, but at this point he couldn't be any worse.
Good point. Weimann has been dire this season.
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This is really piss poor.
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Totally rubbish.
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Just watched the goals from Arsenal and from Spurs. How I wish we had a player who could pass like Ozil or Eriksen!
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Fucking crap.
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Well, that is the worst 45 minutes from Villa in about 8 months. Probably, since the 29th Jan, when we played them at home.
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People booing at HT?
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So many players below par in that half - it was utterly unacceptable , i never saw this coming.
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Just watched the goals from Arsenal and from Spurs. How I wish we had a player who could pass like Ozil or Eriksen!
Eriksen was only £4m more than Kozak. I'm not saying we could have competed with Spurs for Eriksen, on wages as much as anything, but if that's the market surely we'd have done better to try something like that.
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26 league games without a clean sheet and counting. What an absolute fucking disgrace that is.
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Weimann looked poor in midweek for Austria against Ireland too, heavy touch and offered little threat.
Seems crazy to be talking about resting a player in September, but a spell out of the firing line might do him some good.
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Well that was fucking dreadful only positives, I don't think we can possibly be that bad again(if we play like that all season we'll be relegated) and the fact it's only 1-0. Fucking awful Villa sort yourselves out, if we had three subs left I'd have KEA and Weimann off. I think that shows how badly we need a creative midfielder.
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So many players below par in that half - it was utterly unacceptable , i never saw this coming.
In fairness considering our home form of the last couple of seasons it's hardly a deviation from the norm
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I thinks I'd bring Tonev on for Weimann. I haven't got a clue if he's any good or not, but at this point he couldn't be any worse.
Good point. Weimann has been dire this season.
Yep it'd be difficult to be worse. The entire side has been embarrassing and should be ashamed of that first half. Up to them to make massive turn around in second half.
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Just watched the goals from Arsenal and from Spurs. How I wish we had a player who could pass like Ozil or Eriksen!
Eriksen was only £4m more than Kozak. I'm not saying we could have competed with Spurs for Eriksen, on wages as much as anything, but if that's the market surely we'd have done better to try something like that.
I couldn't agree more. Kozac may well be very good, but glaringly not what the team needs right now.
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`whats you drinking at half time? I was planning a cup of tea but i think a beer or two is called for...
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Just for balance, we deserved at least a point from Chelsea and were robbed and the second half against Liverpool was decent. So Arsenal wasn't a one off.
No arguments about being shit in this first half though. The home crowd really deserve better than what's been served up for the last few years.
I still think we'll win this though.
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`whats you drinking at half time? I was planning a cup of tea but i think a beer or two is called for...
*checks fridge*
Becks Blue.
Bugger.
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It's up to manager to sort it out, because it's not isolated the entire team has been dreadful. I mean KEA, Westwood, Lowton and Weimann stand out a bit for me, but they've all been really poor. Massive turnaround needed, we shouldn't be getting the runaround by Newcastle.
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Just watched the goals from Arsenal and from Spurs. How I wish we had a player who could pass
Fixed
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`whats you drinking at half time? I was planning a cup of tea but i think a beer or two is called for...
Let's look at the bench...Budvar? Bison Grass Wodka? Carlsberg?
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So many players below par in that half - it was utterly unacceptable , i never saw this coming.
In fairness considering our home form of the last couple of seasons it's hardly a deviation from the norm
6 wins in 33 ...
Seeing the midfield bossed again and the lack of creativity I do have to question why we sent so much on another striker..especially one who is a target man when we have no width
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Just watched the goals from Arsenal and from Spurs. How I wish we had a player who could pass
Fixed
Indeed.
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I think Delphs been good. Lowtons been strangely reluctant to get forward, maybe a tactical change to try and restrict Newcastle. If so it hasn't worked and we need the full backs to get forward or we have no width.
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Get Sylla on, we need more presence to dominate.
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In January we desperately need a creative midfielder and I pray that Okore's injury is only a minor knock.
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Piss poor. I can't escape the feeling that we're still relegation scrappers. We still look tactically pretty clueless. We look good at full pelt, hitting teams quickly on the break, but our system isn't really set up too well for telling possession in the attacking third.
Lowton, Westwood and Wiemann have all been poor, not just today, but they've all been below par this season. In all honesty, I'm not sure, as a right sided forward, Wiemann is ready to be starting week in, week out. He's certainly not good enough in that position. The problem is, with 3 central forwards also in the squad, he's left essentially filling in as a right forward. He does often look like a square peg in a round hole. At the moment he just can't hit a barn door either. If he wants to keep his place he's got to start tucking these goals away.
CB hasn't had any service, and has been quiet today. Gab has had sparks but again, we all know what you get from the Gabster can be erratic.
KEA is looking out of his depth again.
For me I'd be tempted to bring Helenius or Tonev on for Wiemann, and perhaps Sylla on for KEA.
Newcastle have been the better side, but they're not great. However we look very susceptable to diagonal long balls on the counter. They've had some good breaks, cutting out our fullbacks, but haven't made the most. A better team might be murdering us today. Tony needs to get a lot tighter on Ben Arfa.
And yes...I really wish we had an Ozil kind of player. Even a poor mans equivilant. We're sorely lacking guile in midfield. We don't do subtlety, but sometimes you need that to win games. If we rely purely on picking teams off when we hit them at top gear on the counter, we're not going to pick up enough points to do anything but the same as last season and that's look over our shoulders at the trap door for most of the season.
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Get Sylla on, we need more presence to dominate.
I agree, KEA just isn't doing enough. The only problem is we can only afford one substitute at half time really.
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Weimann does not have the fire in his belly like he did last season and his decision making has been very poor. I think a spell on the bench might bring it back.
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What about Helenius on for Weimann? Go 4-3-1-2, try to sure up the middle of the pitch and put Helenius behind Tekkers and the Gabster?
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What about Helenius on for Weimann? Go 4-3-1-2, try to sure up the middle of the pitch and put Helenius behind Tekkers and the Gabster?
Can't be any worse.
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Kozak for Weimann and sylla for kea !
That's my shout aswell .......
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We won't make two changes at half time with Okore having to be subbed.
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Any subs? Lambert really does them at half time.
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Not a single shot on target in the first half.Unbelievable
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Doesn't look like it, it's time to fucking turn up Villa.
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*sigh*. Well, here we go again. I suppose we can only be better than we were in the first half.
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Craig Gardner equalises for Sunderland
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Raise your fucking game Villa.
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Fucking hell we're shit going forward today. We just can't find our own players in and around the box. Shambles.
Luna sums it up. Delph does great, then fucking throw the position and possession away.
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Shoot Tony!! Shooot!!
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What the fook was that?
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Fucking hell Luna what are you doing?!
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What the fuck was that?! Bloody Hell, Luna!
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Have a crack Luna for gods sake
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Our passing has been bloody shocking.
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Better.
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Get Weimann off. Delph is much improved this half and it's helping the team.
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Get Weimann off. Delph is much improved this half and it's helping the team.
Yep. Weimann for Tonev for me.
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Weimann is having a total stinker. Should be hooked. What's the point in Lambert stocking up on attacking players if he's not going to use them?
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Gabby you tit
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Oh.
Fucking.
Dear.
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Fuck off Gabby. Easier to fucking score.
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Fuuuuuk Gabby
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We need to play at this tempo. FFS gabby!
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I don't believe it.
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Oh Gabby :(
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We're gonna score soon. Come on Villa we can still do this.
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Gabby AND Andi off. Helenius and Libor on. Benteke and Libor with Helenius in behind.
Sort it Lambo.
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fuck me.
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For fucks sake Gabby, that is fucking appalling. We won't get a better chance than that, great cross by Weimann.
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For the love of God....I don't even....how did.....?
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Miss of the season from Gabby.
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How the hell did he miss that ?
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6 attempts, 0 on target.
Piss Poor.
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You just have to put those away at this level.
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ORANGE DOT
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We don't need to make any changes cause this is how we should be playing.
We just need to start games like this.
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As an aside from berating our lot, I'd also like to point out that that Ben Arfa is a bit handy on the ball.
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Bit better this half but we can't afford to miss sitters like gabby did- awful.
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Played Clark.
Done well this season when in the side in fairness.
Come on Villa.
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At least Peter Whitts has scored...
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At least Peter Whitts has scored...
And Curtis Davies
And Craig Gardner
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We need a change now.
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Why can't they just make me happy!? Always so painful to watch.
Ben Arfa is a superstar. Newcastle have no right to have a player like him!
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At least Peter Whitts has scored...
And Curtis Davies
And Craig Gardner
and Sidwell
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You can't back off Ben Arfa. We need a change.
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Glad to see Remy go off.
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Come on Villa for fucks sake.
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if we don't get something out of this i will be gutted....
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They look more likely to score again here. Ben Arfa is having a day out here. He is loving it.
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Amazed sylla hasn't come on .
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Lambert. Change our forward fucking options. Ugh.
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if we don't get something out of this i will be gutted....
That's sounding familiar....
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Make a fucking change, they're on top again now.
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Well we're trying our best to give them chances.
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You could take any of our forwards off to be honest.
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Oh bollocks, we're still crap
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Got to roll the dice now. 25 minutes to go, changing it with 10 to go will be pointless.
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Gah, come on Villa! I didn't see this coming.
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Time's ticking.
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YESSS!!!!! Come on Villa!!! BENTEKE!!!!!
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Come on Kozak!
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Big lad coming on.
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Anyone still think we are top 8 material?
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Kozak for KEA then. Come on big man. Make yourself a hero.
BENTEKE!!!!
GET IN
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C'mon Libor.
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COME ON KOZAK!
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Called it.
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BENTEKE!
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GET IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIN!!! Right now push on Villa please.
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Right lets push on now and win this
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Get in!
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Lovely header!
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Fucking YES
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YES!
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Attack , attack!
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Right push on Villa come on.
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Andi needs to some bench time.
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Go for the jugular villa - this game is there to be won.
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Kodak has passed twice to a player in claret and blue, which pretty much guarantees him a place in the starting eleven, to be honest.
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Andi needs to some bench time.
Yep has done for a while now IMO.
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Kozak to score the winner... What are the odds?
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That was a horrible tackle from debauchery
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Stuck £1 on 5 mins ago for Benteke to score next. Thank you, sir.
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Bollocks defending Villa. Just Bollocks.
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Tonev will come on for Andi.
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Pathetic.
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Oh fuck
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Stuck £1 on 5 mins ago for Benteke to score next. Thank you, sir.
What odds ?
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Fuck off.
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Jesus.
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Fuck off!
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Well, there you are. Absolutely shit.
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In fact, just fucking thick. They should be fined for that pathetic shit. Ben Arfa, get tight, show down line you stupid fucking thickos!
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Fucking useless, what did I say about backing off Ben Arfa? Fucking criminal.
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YYYYYAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!
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ARRRRRGGH!
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Crap defending again
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Just a steaming pile of bullshit
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Lowton has been fucking atrocious today.
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Ben Arfa has had the beating of luna all day - we have been poor today and again shoot ourselves in the foot - the game was there to win and we have fucked up .
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That is the game as well I imagine.
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Stuck £1 on 5 mins ago for Benteke to score next. Thank you, sir.
What odds ?
Only 5/1 but it makes up for this crap.
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Ffs Lambert. Should have gone back to basics with the defence.
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Table looking more familiar.
Is Weimann bullet proof?
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We fucking hate playing at home. Shame that.
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We are being beaten by a one man band.
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Today is a reality check for me - I thought we had turned the corner but this has been so so fucking shit .
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Table looking more familiar.
Is Weimann bullet proof?
and Lowton.
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Bad defeat if we lose this.
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You just know the game is over now don't you....
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When ever I'm confident of a win we fuck it up and whenever Lawro predicts us to win we lose
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I just glanced up to TV and saw Gouffran had scored and said 'get in'. He doesn't play for Villa does he, must pay more attention.
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This has been completely embarrassing.
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Kodak has passed twice to a player in claret and blue, which pretty much guarantees him a place in the starting eleven, to be honest.
I don't think he's touched the ball since I typed this.
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Why the hell Andi is still on, I don't know.
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Yet another relegation battle beckons. This is shit, people, total and utter shit.
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We just don't have the creativity. I'm sorry, he may be a good player and hasn't looked bad in his position, but we really didn't need to sign Kozak.
He'll score now. I hope he does.
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This is dreadful they look more likely to score again.
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Not learnt from the Bradford game.
No shape with 4 strikers.
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We can't get the ball in midfield now. No surprise as we have only two players in there and Delph can't tackle.
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One attempt on target in 80 mins at home - happens too often.
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Clueless when going forward.
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Westwood and Weimann should not start next week.
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Tonev on for Andi for 10 minutes. Please.
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Yet another relegation battle beckons. This is shit, people, total and utter shit.
This
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Westwoods worst game for us.
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Sums it all up.
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Wake up call needed for Lowton, Westwood and Weimann - i would bring in bacuna sylla and tonev next week for them.
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I'm quite surprised, although I probably shouldn't beat just how poor we've looked today. I mean, this is easily as poor as we were at time last year. I think we'll struggle again.
And I can't say I'm too enamoured with having Benteke and Kozac on at the same time. I can see some very one dimensional football coming up.
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Heads dropped as soon as they scored.
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How is Weimann on the pitch?
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We just don't have the creativity. I'm sorry, he may be a good player and hasn't looked bad in his position, but we really didn't need to sign Kozak.
He'll score now. I hope he does.
Even worse, there's no midfield to speak of. Delph aside, they may as well not be there; no creativity and no chance of them stopping an attack. Newcastle's second goal was a great example: we were cut to ribbons from the midfield. Utter shit.
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Yet another relegation battle beckons. This is shit, people, total and utter shit.
And I was so looking forward to a season without a relegation struggle.
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We have options now- if they don't deliver they should be dropped.
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What a load of rubbish. Any good feeling has gone on this... need to be much much better than we have been. Very very disappointing.
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What the hell Lowton?
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Lowtons worst game for us too.
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Lowton has been fucking diabolical.
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Weimann just totally took both the pace out of the attack, then gave it away. And that was a pen on Ben Arfa.
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That should have been a penalty and Weimann should have been off 30 mins ago.
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Lowton has been fucking diabolical.
Poor 3 games running.
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Oh bollocks. We're still crap.
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Tonev gets 3 minutes. Weimann has been shit for 87.
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We look like we're a couple of players short.
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Tonev gets 3 minutes. Weimann has been shit for 87.
Fucking horrible management by Lambert. Waiting far too long to sub off someone who needed to go ages ago.
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Why leave it so late to make a change? Honestly. Fucking joke.
EVERYONE has failed today.
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It's just so amazing how we remain so utterly dire at Villa Park. Or maybe it's not amazing at all. FFS
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Think we should have splurge the money on the Japanese playmaker than Kozak.
I dread it when we play at home.
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Completely unacceptable performance, but not surprising in the slightest.
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Fucking diabolical.
Lambert needs to have a long old think about this one, as it is his side, and his tactics. Made a mug of by Pardew. Not pretty.
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This is a real optimism killer
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Gash.
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It's going to be a really long hard season if we can't win home games like this.
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Can't even blame Mike Dean, who I hate with a passion.
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Fuck off. Shit Villa. Fucking shit.
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All over. Lost again.
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You'd think we were winning with how little we've fought or cared about getting the ball back. Got the ball in the last minute, do we get it in the box? No. Pathetic.
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Any team playing away must wish to play Villa. We start home games with a complete lack of pressing or urgency. You then have the other end of the spectrum where we have been panicking for the last 30minutes, hitting it quickly with no composure.
That is so depressing
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Drop Lowton.
Drop KEA.
Drop Westwood.
Drop Weimann.
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Dreadful. Just awful.
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That was shit exactly what is the fucking point of 2 target men with no fucking wingers to supply them.
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Drop Lowton.
Drop KEA.
Drop Westwood.
Drop Weimann.
I can agree with this but trouble is, we aint got much to replace them with.
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I could accept 3 points out of 9 when weve played the likes of Arsenal, Chelski and Liverpool but when that list now includes Mike Ashleys train set i begin to worry a bit. Why do we make ordinary sides (and yes the "Toon army", you are ordinary) look good, remember Barcelona - sorry Wigan at VP last season, ripping us apart and they were relegated for fucks sake!!. We just dont have enough ball winners to disrupt teams who basically have license to pass us to death. Westwood, lowton and Weimann seriously worry me, their form has collapsed, i honestly felt good about this season but now im not so sure. Oh and a cheery hello to the fucking neanderthals from Newcastle who bailed out of 2 coaches on Witton lane at about five to three yesterday, its heart warming to know that not every society has moved into the 21st Century and that some places are still stuck in the 1980s, what a bunch of fucking Dinosaurs.
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This is a real optimism killer
Yep.