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Title: Football started in 1992
Post by: Hillbilly on September 10, 2013, 05:23:55 AM
http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/news/features/on-this-day-10-september.html (http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/news/features/on-this-day-10-september.html)

"Villa finished runners-up to Manchester United after running out of steam during the end-of-season run-in, which was as close as they have ever come to winning football's highest domestic honour."

Admittedly it doesn't take much but my piss is boiling.
Title: Re: Football started in 1992
Post by: The Man With A Stick on September 10, 2013, 06:13:25 AM
It's ok, as Barcelona and Milan haven't won it yet either.  Those giants of the game, Chelsea and Blackburn, have though.
Title: Re: Football started in 1992
Post by: Irish villain on September 10, 2013, 07:56:02 AM
How do I complain to them?
Title: Re: Football started in 1992
Post by: Nev on September 10, 2013, 07:57:47 AM
How do I complain to them?

You might as well write to me for all the good it will do....
Title: Re: Football started in 1992
Post by: Ads on September 10, 2013, 08:14:22 AM
What a cock-eyed load of shite that is.

But then so what? If there are people out there who will read that comment and not go "what the fuck are they on about?" then the chances are, they're bandwaggon jumpers and I would rather be a Bluenose than mix with their ilk.

Title: Re: Football started in 1992
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on September 10, 2013, 10:41:15 AM
To be fair Villa have never won the premier league, they won division 1
Title: Re: Football started in 1992
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on September 10, 2013, 10:51:02 AM
To be fair Villa have never won the premier league, they won division 1

but Villa have won "football's highest domestic honour"

Title: Re: Football started in 1992
Post by: itbrvilla on September 10, 2013, 11:00:50 AM
To be fair Villa have never won the premier league, they won division 1
Both of them 7 times.

but Villa have won "football's highest domestic honour"


Title: Re: Football started in 1992
Post by: Mortimer's Bear on September 10, 2013, 11:05:47 AM
Meh, who cares. All real football fans will know that is utter pish.
Title: Re: Football started in 1992
Post by: Damo70 on September 10, 2013, 11:41:52 AM
We have won English football's highest domestic honour and the biggest honour in world club football (admittedly a few South Americans might disagree with me there). Just because they changed the name of both doesn't alter those facts. We were also champions of Europe when you firstly had to be champions of England to qualify and secondly every other team you played were league champions. And while I'm on a rant roll I will say I think the Premier League trophy looks cheap and tacky compared to the old league championship trophy. After seeing Dennis Mortimer holding it up it never seems right to see it being waved around by the winners of the second division.
Title: Re: Football started in 1992
Post by: eamonn on September 10, 2013, 12:18:03 PM
After seeing Dennis Mortimer holding it up it never seems right to see it being waved around by the winners of the second division.

Really? They use the old First Division trophy for today's second-level winners?
Title: Re: Football started in 1992
Post by: flybo on September 10, 2013, 12:22:51 PM
yes   >:(
Title: Re: Football started in 1992
Post by: joe_c on September 10, 2013, 12:49:05 PM
After seeing Dennis Mortimer holding it up it never seems right to see it being waved around by the winners of the second division.

Really? They use the old First Division trophy for today's second-level winners?

Yes. I was so, so pleased and relieved that when Small Heath were promoted a few years ago they were pipped to the title on the last day. The idea of them with that trophy for finishing 21st in the country was unpalatable to say the least.
Title: Re: Football started in 1992
Post by: Gerrin on September 10, 2013, 02:16:18 PM
We have won English football's highest domestic honour and the biggest honour in world club football (admittedly a few South Americans might disagree with me there). Just because they changed the name of both doesn't alter those facts. We were also champions of Europe when you firstly had to be champions of England to qualify and secondly every other team you played were league champions. And while I'm on a rant roll I will say I think the Premier League trophy looks cheap and tacky compared to the old league championship trophy. After seeing Dennis Mortimer holding it up it never seems right to see it being waved around by the winners of the second division.


We also won them at a time when money didn't totally dominant the sport in the way it does today.
Title: Re: Football started in 1992
Post by: Irish villain on September 10, 2013, 02:52:15 PM
How do I complain to them?

You might as well write to me for all the good it will do....

Where's Tom from Father Ted when I need him.
Title: Re: Football started in 1992
Post by: Olneythelonely on September 10, 2013, 07:31:45 PM
To be fair Villa have never won the premier league, they won division 1

That's not what was said though.
Title: Re: Football started in 1992
Post by: ajclayton on September 10, 2013, 10:16:09 PM
http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/news/features/on-this-day-10-september.html (http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/news/features/on-this-day-10-september.html)

"Villa finished runners-up to Manchester United after running out of steam during the end-of-season run-in, which was as close as they have ever come to winning football's highest domestic honour."

Admittedly it doesn't take much but my piss is boiling.

The sentence before says "but it was his first campaign, during which he scored 13 goals for Villa, that almost rewarded his move with the Barclays Premier League title."  So in that context, what they say is right, we've never won the Premier League title since it's been called that.
Title: Re: Football started in 1992
Post by: spaf on September 10, 2013, 10:39:43 PM
http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/news/features/on-this-day-10-september.html (http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/news/features/on-this-day-10-september.html)

"Villa finished runners-up to Manchester United after running out of steam during the end-of-season run-in, which was as close as they have ever come to winning football's highest domestic honour."

Admittedly it doesn't take much but my piss is boiling.

The sentence before says "but it was his first campaign, during which he scored 13 goals for Villa, that almost rewarded his move with the Barclays Premier League title."  So in that context, what they say is right, we've never won the Premier League title since it's been called that.

It was FA Premier League (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premier_League#Sponsorship) back then so he couldn't have moved to Barclays Premier League.

Title: Re: Football started in 1992
Post by: Damo70 on September 10, 2013, 11:08:52 PM
FA Premier League, Barclays Premier League, etc, etc. I think it is also correct to say we never won the Canon League. Or the Milk Cup or the Worthington Cup or the Rumbelows Cup for that matter. I think the point is we have won English football's highest domestic honour. And the League Cup.

Title: Re: Football started in 1992
Post by: robbo1874 on September 11, 2013, 01:26:11 AM
To be fair Villa have never won the premier league, they won division 1

but Villa have won "football's highest domestic honour"


and europe's. arsenal haven't though. Just saying...
Title: Re: Football started in 1992
Post by: Fuse on September 11, 2013, 03:42:38 PM
Wankers!
Title: Re: Football started in 1992
Post by: cheltenhamlion on September 11, 2013, 06:40:27 PM
You see, I struggle with how to react to things like that.

Write them off as the ramblings of some Johnny Come Lately no mark, or get really fucking annoyed about the lack of any research whatsoever before putting it in the public domain.

I have concluded they are a Pod of ****** if that helps to clear it up.
Title: Re: Football started in 1992
Post by: Legion on September 11, 2013, 06:55:54 PM
After seeing Dennis Mortimer holding it up it never seems right to see it being waved around by the winners of the second division.

Really? They use the old First Division trophy for today's second-level winners?

Yes.

I never knew that.
Title: Re: Football started in 1992
Post by: dave.woodhall on September 11, 2013, 09:52:44 PM
After seeing Dennis Mortimer holding it up it never seems right to see it being waved around by the winners of the second division.

Really? They use the old First Division trophy for today's second-level winners?

Yes.

I never knew that.

If you want to be seriously, physically ill, google Albion championship trophy images.
Title: Re: Football started in 1992
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 11, 2013, 09:58:05 PM
It's always pissed me off that they use the old trophy for the division 2 winners.
Title: Re: Football started in 1992
Post by: Hillbilly on September 11, 2013, 10:34:56 PM
The old trophy is quite elegant compared to current bombastic lump.
Title: Re: Football started in 1992
Post by: cdbearsfan on September 12, 2013, 12:26:51 AM
How old is the trophy you get for winning the Football League? I know it's the same one we won in 1981, is it the same one we won in 1910 and even earlier too?

Oh, and as an aside, it annoys me when the Villa programme lists an opponent's honours and lists "First Division Championships" without bothering to qualify which First Division they're on about... which makes it look like Newcastle have been League Champions loads of times.
Title: Re: Football started in 1992
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on September 12, 2013, 10:46:51 AM
To be fair Villa have never won the premier league, they won division 1

That's not what was said though.

It doesn't matter, not worth getting worked up about really, I just pass all this shit off these days, the bias towards the Sky 4 makes me fucking sick. I just let it wash over me
Title: Re: Football started in 1992
Post by: Dave Cooper please on September 12, 2013, 05:57:24 PM
You let your sick wash over you?
Each to their own.
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