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Title: Alan Hutton- deadline day nightmare
Post by: eastie on September 06, 2013, 08:50:14 AM
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By David McCarthy | 05/09/13  the mirror

Alan Hutton has thanked Gordon Strachan for putting faith in him after being left in limbo by Aston Villa.

The Scotland right-back, bossed by countryman Paul Lambert at club level, enjoyed a loan spell with Real Mallorca last term and expected to be allowed to return to La Liga on Monday as his club received THREE offers from Spain.

But the Villans refused to sanction another loan move.

Hutton, who has been frozen out completely and told he has no future at the Premier League outfit, now doesn’t have a clue when he’ll play club football again.

But the 28-year-old is adamant that he is in the right frame of mind for Friday night’s home World Cup qualifier against Belgium - and Villa teammate Christian Benteke - and is determined to repay Strachan for keeping faith in him.

He, who will earn his 34th cap, said: “I want to prove to him and everyone else - not just here and Scotland, but also the manager at Villa and these kind of guys - and say, 'You might not want me but this is what I can do and what I am good at.'

"It is a real motivation for me to show a lot of people. He (Strachan) put massive faith in me to play me. I totally respect the manager and his decisions and what he does.

“The only thing I can do is work hard and show him I am fit enough and ready to play.”

The defender will be able to move to a Championship club on loan from next week, but at the moment his dream of continuing his career in Spain is over.
He said: “I had a few opportunities to go back to Spain - there were a few options. Mallorca want me back, but I had three options to go back to La Liga and none of them could agree terms.

“It has left me in a position where I am not too sure what is going to happen.

“It is very frustrating. If you could picture me that day I was bouncing off the walls; to actually have options - not just one - to go to different teams and they can’t, or are not willing, to agree terms is very annoying.

“I was desperate to leave and nothing comes of it and you are on a bit of a downer.

Title: Re: Alan Hutton- deadline day nightmare
Post by: lovejoy on September 06, 2013, 09:00:31 AM
It could have happened if he had accepted lower wages then.
Title: Re: Alan Hutton- deadline day nightmare
Post by: Quiet Lion on September 06, 2013, 09:01:52 AM
I imagine he will chop down Big Ben and cause serious injury to him within the first ten minutes of tonights game
Title: Re: Alan Hutton- deadline day nightmare
Post by: supertom on September 06, 2013, 09:29:12 AM
Earlier in the window he said he wasn't willing to go back to Mallorca because they were in the 2nd division in Spain and couldn't afford him.
Prick.
Let the leg breaking piss poor excuse for a Prem footballer rot. If teams aren't willing to pay his wages, then that's his problem. If he wants out that badly I'm sure a contract termination could be arranged by mutual consent. Thats if he wants to play that badly,and playing is more important to him than money.
Title: Re: Alan Hutton- deadline day nightmare
Post by: ktvillan on September 06, 2013, 09:30:50 AM
Yes perhaps not the best move to piss off a player with a tendency to hack and scythe players down just as he's about to face your star player and prize asset in competitive game.   But seriously it's a shame for him if he just wants to get on and play and someone was daft enough to want him, but possibly his own fault if wages were the issue.
Title: Re: Alan Hutton- deadline day nightmare
Post by: Malandro on September 06, 2013, 09:39:07 AM
Alan, I'm trying to invent a time machine, then I'm sure I can get you a transfer - Leeds, Wimbledon?

The transfer deadline nightmare was the fans, we have not managed to get your shitness off our wage bill.
Title: Re: Alan Hutton- deadline day nightmare
Post by: supertom on September 06, 2013, 09:44:13 AM
Being that there's no money in most of Spain too, my guess is that we could get any of these interested clubs to take any of his wages, let alone give a loan fee.

I'm not sure he was inundated with as many offers as he makes out either. If he'd have dropped his wage demands earlier, a deal with Mallorca could have happened, possibly a permanent. He wasn't willing and he even said as much.

He'll get his loan move next week anyway.
Title: Re: Alan Hutton- deadline day nightmare
Post by: Duncan Shaw on September 06, 2013, 10:08:06 AM
If he tries to hurt Benteke I can only imagine he'll end up hurt himself.
Title: Re: Alan Hutton- deadline day nightmare
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on September 06, 2013, 10:35:14 AM
I don't wanna watch England now, I wanna see Benteke SMASH Hutton
Title: Re: Alan Hutton- deadline day nightmare
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on September 06, 2013, 10:36:53 AM
Alan, I'm trying to invent a time machine, then I'm sure I can get you a transfer - Leeds, Wimbledon?

The transfer deadline nightmare was the fans, we have not managed to get your shitness off our wage bill.

If you do, go back two years and erase Mcleish
Title: Re: Alan Hutton- deadline day nightmare
Post by: Gerrin on September 06, 2013, 10:51:31 AM
I imagine he will chop down Big Ben and cause serious injury to him within the first ten minutes of tonights game

I was worried about that too, the sort of thing the prick would do.
Title: Re: Alan Hutton- deadline day nightmare
Post by: GarethRDR on September 06, 2013, 11:12:30 AM
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Title: Re: Alan Hutton- deadline day nightmare
Post by: Toronto Villa on September 06, 2013, 11:27:24 AM
I really do not give a flying fuck about Hutton, Bannan and most especially Ireland.
Title: Re: Alan Hutton- deadline day nightmare
Post by: eamonn on September 06, 2013, 11:28:26 AM
The wages on offer in Spain might be very small compared to what he's on. In fact, I imagine they are. Maybe he went as low as he reasonably could and it's us being tight about it.
Title: Re: Alan Hutton- deadline day nightmare
Post by: pauliewalnuts on September 06, 2013, 11:47:19 AM
Earlier in the window he said he wasn't willing to go back to Mallorca because they were in the 2nd division in Spain and couldn't afford him.
Prick.
Let the leg breaking piss poor excuse for a Prem footballer rot. If teams aren't willing to pay his wages, then that's his problem. If he wants out that badly I'm sure a contract termination could be arranged by mutual consent. Thats if he wants to play that badly,and playing is more important to him than money.

Seems tough to decide it's because he wouldn't take a drop in wages.

Maybe we wanted a loan fee and these clubs wouldn't pay it? We don't know.

Hutton is a fucking awful player we should never have signed, but he seems relatively not bitter about what has gone on, so I'll refrain from chucking abuse at him.
Title: Re: Alan Hutton- deadline day nightmare
Post by: Fergal on September 06, 2013, 12:27:05 PM
He seems to be honouring the contract he signed with us...
Title: Re: Alan Hutton- deadline day nightmare
Post by: Jon Crofts on September 06, 2013, 12:36:39 PM
He's a trier, runs around a lot, kicks people and hoofs the ball upfield, that's what TSM saw in him & thought I'll buy him, sadly for Hutton that's what Lambert saw in him & thought get shot of him.
Title: Re: Alan Hutton- deadline day nightmare
Post by: Lambert and Payne on September 06, 2013, 12:55:25 PM
Not sure I understand the animosity shown towards him. Not a great footballer and on big wages, but when offered the money and the chance to play regular football it was the managers fault and not his. Always tried his hardest and got stuck in. Never heard him say anything about the club (but I haven't really payed attention).

Good luck to him, I hope he gets his loan move
Title: Re: Alan Hutton- deadline day nightmare
Post by: not3bad on September 06, 2013, 01:01:56 PM
Scotland might not be the strongest in football terms but to be playing regularly for them and not get a game at your club is a strange position to be in.  Should have no problem sorting out a loan move I would have thought.
Title: Re: Alan Hutton- deadline day nightmare
Post by: Pete3206 on September 06, 2013, 01:38:26 PM
Boo hoo!!

What other profession could you be utterly useless at, but still get paid a fortune. Think yourself lucky Mr Hutton
Title: Re: Alan Hutton- deadline day nightmare
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 06, 2013, 01:42:32 PM
According to that interview the reason he didn't move was Villa wouldn't sanction a loan rather than he just wants a pay cheque for doing nothing. So I feel a bit for him, as much as i'd prefer to not see him in a Villa shirt again he's never struck me as much of a problem off the field and seems to want to play football.
Title: Re: Alan Hutton- deadline day nightmare
Post by: lovejoy on September 06, 2013, 02:22:26 PM
Boils down to money though. if he was that desperate to move I'm sure a club would have bought him but for lower wages. Villa would have been happy to save his wages. Typical modern footballer, lost touch with reality.
Title: Re: Alan Hutton- deadline day nightmare
Post by: Concrete John on September 06, 2013, 02:25:13 PM
Seems s strange one to me. 

If we don't want him and won't play him, then anything we get in terms of loan fee or paying part of his wages is better than what we have now.  Possibly it was a game of brinksmanship that we misjudged?
Title: Re: Alan Hutton- deadline day nightmare
Post by: Grande Pablo on September 06, 2013, 02:35:41 PM
I must admit to being chuffed when it signed, but it soon wore off.

With Eardley crocked at B-lose, a cross city loan would be ideal for him.
Title: Re: Alan Hutton- deadline day nightmare
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 06, 2013, 02:43:46 PM
Boils down to money though. if he was that desperate to move I'm sure a club would have bought him but for lower wages. Villa would have been happy to save his wages. Typical modern footballer, lost touch with reality.

That is just pure guesswork on your part though. One thing I will say about Hutton is he has never given me the impression of having a bad attitude.

Why should he move for a fraction of what he is on now? We have no idea if anyone has even offered a viable contract. What if someone did but it was £5K a week? A massive to us, but a massive pay drop for him. We expect players to honour contracts when we want them to stay.

Sometimes we as fans have real double standards.

Downing and Benteke (when he put in the request) = Typical modern day greedy footballers because they don't do what WE want them to.
Hutton and Bannan (after he turned down Blackburn) = Typical modern day greedy footballers because they won't do what WE want them to.
Title: Re: Alan Hutton- deadline day nightmare
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 06, 2013, 02:47:00 PM
From the Daily Record, similar interview but a few extra bits in. Not ehe always says them or they. Never we. I get the feeling it was the clubs rather than him that didn't agree terms.

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ALAN HUTTON last night ripped into Aston Villa for leaving his career in limbo.

However, he insisted helping Scotland put the brakes on Belgium tonight will prove he can play at the highest level.

The Aston Villa right-back, bossed by former Scotland captain Paul Lambert, enjoyed a successful loan spell with Real Mallorca last term and expected to be allowed to return to La Liga on Monday after his club received three offers from Spain.

But Villa refused to sanction another loan move and Hutton, who has been frozen out and told he has no future at the Premier League side, now doesn’t know when he’ll play club football again.

The defender will be able to move to a Championship club on loan from next week but at the moment his dream of a return to Spain is over.

Hutton said: “I had a few opportunities to go back to Spain – there were a few options. Mallorca want me back but I had three options to go back to La Liga and none of them could agree terms.

“It’s left me in a position where I am not too sure what is going to happen.

“It is very frustrating. If you could picture me that day I was bouncing off the walls but to actually have options – not just one – to go to different teams and they can’t, or aren’t willing to agree terms is very annoying.

“I was desperate to leave and nothing comes of it and you are on a bit of a downer. Monday was a nightmare of a day.

“But it’s not just that. Even before pre-season I had options to leave and they still couldn’t agree terms. Then a month down the line they still can’t do it.”

Hutton revealed a group of outcasts were forced to train together and expressed his delight that Scotland team-mate Barry Bannan who moved to Crystal Palace on deadline day, managed to escape.

He said: “There were lots of us; Darren Bent, Stephen Ireland – I am talking international players. Charles N’Zogbia, who have just been put to the side and for me it is not what should be done. We are not kids.

“I was buzzing for Barry that he got out because he is a great player and doesn’t deserve to be treated like that. Unfortunately for myself it didn’t come off and I am angry about it.”
Title: Re: Alan Hutton- deadline day nightmare
Post by: danno on September 06, 2013, 03:07:03 PM
We're not a rental shop.

The club are more than entitled to ask for interested clubs to buy Hutton outright.

I personally don't care if he is angry or frustrated, the "poor me" stuff doesn't really bother me
either he's keeping his name in the papers and alerting everyone to his availability.

I hope he has a decent game  tonight and some really lucky and astute manager takes him on.



Title: Re: Alan Hutton- deadline day nightmare
Post by: LeeB on September 06, 2013, 03:20:16 PM
He's getting well paid, it's not like he's going to struggle to feed his kids.

Fuck him.
Title: Re: Alan Hutton- deadline day nightmare
Post by: ktvillan on September 06, 2013, 03:33:36 PM
Interesting that he mentions N'Zog as a fellow outcast - I hadn't seen that confirmed anywhere.   He made a good contribution at times last season(especially West Ham at home and Albion away) and it seems a bit harsh if he's now in the bomb squad. 

I can't imagine Villa would have dared to ask for a loan fee for Hutton.  I'm guessing clubs wanted to take him but pay little or nothing of his wages and Villa told them to do one.  Which is quite within their rights, as it is within Hutton's to get paid what is in his Villa contract. 
Title: Re: Alan Hutton- deadline day nightmare
Post by: avfc_1874 on September 06, 2013, 03:46:34 PM
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That is amazing.
Title: Re: Alan Hutton- deadline day nightmare
Post by: supertom on September 06, 2013, 03:50:18 PM
If it was mostly Spanish low level clubs after him on loan, I guess the issue was that none were willing to take on enough of his wages. I'd guess Mallorca would have taken on less of his wage than his loan last term after relegation. But as Hutton suggested earlier in the window, he didnt want to play in the second tier in Spain.

When the loan window opens, I'm sure there will be championship clubs willing to pay a significant chunk of his wages. I dont think we'd be silly enough to ask for a loan fee. I don't think that's the issue.
Title: Re: Alan Hutton- deadline day nightmare
Post by: TheSandman on September 06, 2013, 04:55:49 PM
Sometimes we as fans have real double standards.

Downing and Benteke (when he put in the request) = Typical modern day greedy footballers because they don't do what WE want them to.
Hutton and Bannan (after he turned down Blackburn) = Typical modern day greedy footballers because they won't do what WE want them to.

Aye. It was not long ago that we had a load of people saying 'Hutton is a twat because he doesn't want to play football' now we have 'Hutton is a twat because he's complaining about us not letting him move to play football'.

The net result of this is that we are now stuck with at least the majority of Hutton's wages for at least the next four months. He might well get a move to a Championship club but that can only possibly be a loan. Championship clubs know that we're desperate to get rid of him and that he'll be desperate to move on so we have an unbelievably weak negotiating position with him and would probably be liable to get less of a proportion of his wages than we've been offered by La Liga clubs. I heard Tiny Penis talking about the loan window and he said as a lower league manager he loved it as he could get players on loan very, very cheaply in it as selling clubs and players had become even more desperate following the 'slamming shut' of the window. 
Title: Re: Alan Hutton- deadline day nightmare
Post by: eamonn on September 06, 2013, 05:22:59 PM
I thought Zoggy was injured in any case.
Title: Re: Alan Hutton- deadline day nightmare
Post by: ASHTONVILLA on September 06, 2013, 07:20:07 PM
The most interesting part is that he specifically references N'Zogbia as one of the 'bomb squad' - pity as I think he is still one of our better players.
Title: Re: Alan Hutton- deadline day nightmare
Post by: glasses on September 06, 2013, 10:49:32 PM
Ive taken the liberty of translating this story from the daily record for our Villa fans who may speak Snoop Dogg

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Title: Re: Alan Hutton- deadline day nightmare
Post by: villan from luton on September 07, 2013, 10:25:55 PM
Personally, I am surprised someone didnt take him on. Had a decent game at Wembley. Think he will go to a championship club and hopefully will pay a big chunk of his wages. When super Habib Beye went to Doncaster on loan, they were stories that they paid a whole £2k towards his £45k wage, what a joke
Title: Re: Alan Hutton- deadline day nightmare
Post by: bertlambshank on September 07, 2013, 10:31:14 PM
Personally, I am surprised someone didnt take him on. Had a decent game at Wembley. Think he will go to a championship club and hopefully will pay a big chunk of his wages. When super Habib Beye went to Doncaster on loan, they were stories that they paid a whole £2k towards his £45k wage, what a joke
Buyers market.
Title: Re: Alan Hutton- deadline day nightmare
Post by: ventnor villain on September 08, 2013, 10:13:41 AM
This thread ought to have been titled Dead BEAT day nightmare.
Title: Re: Alan Hutton- deadline day nightmare
Post by: Grande Pablo on September 08, 2013, 10:04:53 PM
Seen a story in one of the red tops that Blackpool are interested if we can do a deal on part of his wages.
Title: Re: Alan Hutton- deadline day nightmare
Post by: LeeB on September 09, 2013, 12:07:50 PM
Seen a story in one of the red tops that Blackpool are interested if we can do a deal on part of his wages.

A dream move for a Glaswegian.
Title: Re: Alan Hutton- deadline day nightmare
Post by: Malandro on September 09, 2013, 12:36:41 PM
Seen a story in one of the red tops that Blackpool are interested if we can do a deal on part of his wages.

A dream move for a Glaswegian.

his career has taken a big dipper
Title: Re: Alan Hutton- deadline day nightmare
Post by: Malandro on September 09, 2013, 12:37:12 PM
oh and he's hardly illuminated the premier league
Title: Re: Alan Hutton- deadline day nightmare
Post by: Salsa Party Animal on September 09, 2013, 01:19:37 PM
Did a search for Alan Hutton moving to Aston Villa and the bugger got 2 more years left :(
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