Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: dave.woodhall on September 03, 2013, 09:52:51 AM
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http://thebirminghampress.com/2013/09/42066/
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Good article, Dave. Stephen Ireland summed up.
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Yes, agreed with everything except the World Cup qualifiers being pointless.
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Good article as always. I remember an article/interview in one of the broadsheets when we first signed Ireland, he was lambasting the youngsters at Man City for thinking they've made it before they've achieved anything, spending money on big watches and solid gold houses etc... I really thought he was a changed man and we would have a new, mature Stephen Ireland on our team. Turns our it was a whole load of hot air.
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God what a complete waster Ireland is and it just summed up where the club was in 2010 amidst a steep underlying decline which now seems to have been reversed since February this year. Ireland has not been part of the recovery.
Bannan needs to knuckle down and apply hiself though he has missed a really huge opportunity at Villa.
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Ireland leaves me with a sense of sadness - what a shame, great waste of talent and a great waste of a great opportunity. He could (and should) of had a ball at Villa Park. I'm more optimistic about Wee Barry Bannan. I do think he'll find his level and apply himself. I think they're both players that need an arm around them, I think Holloway and Hughes will do that (if Hughes manages to sort Ireland out and get him performing as he once did it will be nothing short of miraculous and Hughes will leap up in my estimation as a manager x5).
Nice article Dave I always look forward to them. Good to see your technical difficulties (after that small blip) have been sorted out and normal service has been resumed.
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Spot on Dave. Unfortunately I caught a minute of SSN last night, with some gormless dimwit proudly boasting that this summers window has seen more money spent than the last, shame they dont show that much enthusiasm on the lack of English players playing in the so called best league in the world. ..fcukers.
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Good article as always. I remember an article/interview in one of the broadsheets when we first signed Ireland, he was lambasting the youngsters at Man City for thinking they've made it before they've achieved anything, spending money on big watches and solid gold houses etc... I really thought he was a changed man and we would have a new, mature Stephen Ireland on our team. Turns our it was a whole load of hot air.
I remember that. I also remember in the same article him having a pop at Man City for not getting enough chances to play. Saying something like "I was POS and then couldn't get a look in and nobody told me why." I have a horrible feeling we'll get something similar shortly about his time at Villa.
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Good article as always. I remember an article/interview in one of the broadsheets when we first signed Ireland, he was lambasting the youngsters at Man City for thinking they've made it before they've achieved anything, spending money on big watches and solid gold houses etc... I really thought he was a changed man and we would have a new, mature Stephen Ireland on our team. Turns our it was a whole load of hot air.
I remember that. I also remember in the same article him having a pop at Man City for not getting enough chances to play. Saying something like "I was POS and then couldn't get a look in and nobody told me why." I have a horrible feeling we'll get something similar shortly about his time at Villa.
I just get angry that the people within the game couldn't see what many of us bystanders could, that Ireland would not be a good aquisition.
And it goes on, with Stoke the latest to try their hand.
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I think that one major difference between the two of them is that while Bannan earns enough to throw around it'll be a few years before he's got enough to retire in comfort. Ireland, on the other hand, is already rich enough to never have to work again and knows that even if he doesn't sign permanently for Stoke this time next year someone will take him on at a sufficiently high wage to top up his pension.
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I agree with everything that's been said about Ireland's pathetic efforts but I've never seen any evidence that there's a hugely gifted footballer there. I just don't see it at all. What are these outstanding attributes that people mention?
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I agree with everything that's been said about Ireland's pathetic efforts but I've never seen any evidence that there's a hugely gifted footballer there. I just don't see it at all. What are these outstanding attributes that people mention?
Well, when I saw him play in his (probably only) good season at Manchester City he did appear to be an outstanding creative midfielder. He just stood out out as a talent.
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Another good article Dave.
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I agree with everything that's been said about Ireland's pathetic efforts but I've never seen any evidence that there's a hugely gifted footballer there. I just don't see it at all. What are these outstanding attributes that people mention?
Technically adept. Very comfortable in possession, one-touch passing, taking up dangerous positions between midfield and attack, decent shot. On-form he would have been our key player. A real shame that he pissed his chance up the wall.
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Good article. Ireland could of been an incredible footballer (some of his interceptions were just fabulous), but something just never clicked. Shame for him and us.
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Good article as always. I remember an article/interview in one of the broadsheets when we first signed Ireland, he was lambasting the youngsters at Man City for thinking they've made it before they've achieved anything, spending money on big watches and solid gold houses etc... I really thought he was a changed man and we would have a new, mature Stephen Ireland on our team. Turns our it was a whole load of hot air.
I remember that. I also remember in the same article him having a pop at Man City for not getting enough chances to play. Saying something like "I was POS and then couldn't get a look in and nobody told me why." I have a horrible feeling we'll get something similar shortly about his time at Villa.
I just get angry that the people within the game couldn't see what many of us bystanders could, that Ireland would not be a good aquisition.
And it goes on, with Stoke the latest to try their hand.
I did wonder how much his move was perceived by him being a 'makeweight' for Milner going the other way at the time, particularly as the manager who apparently wanted him then left before /during the ink drying on the deal.
However, he was welcomed (and certainly paid) at a level that should have convinced him that he was valued and I find it simply unbelievable that he ended up unwanted at the club through his own behaviour on the pitch, given his talent and evident ability.
Excellent article Dave, agree about BB being different and I hope he does great things at CP.
Not too great against us, though.
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Did anyone want Ireland at the club? As in who actually signed him and who wanted him? MON had gone and Milner wanted out. Houllier had not been hired IIRC and he certainly hadn't started work so how come he ended up at Villa?
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Great article again Dave - as usual!
"I’d like to say good luck but I wouldn’t mean it." sums it up for most of us perfectly I think.
Posted elsewhere that he's happy to link up with Hughes again because " he knows how to get the best out of me".
How about earning your massive wage by making a bit of effort Stephen rather relying on someone else to get the best out of you? (Also an intro to a soon to be released deluge of how he's been overlooked at VP)
Can't see him being a regular anywhere to be honest.
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Great article again Dave - as usual!
"I’d like to say good luck but I wouldn’t mean it." sums it up for most of us perfectly I think.
Posted elsewhere that he's happy to link up with Hughes again because " he knows how to get the best out of me".
How about earning your massive wage by making a bit of effort Stephen rather relying on someone else to get the best out of you? (Also an intro to a soon to be released deluge of how he's been overlooked at VP)
Can't see him being a regular anywhere to be honest.
He's got a reputation, though, and there'll always be someone who reckons they can get the best out of him.