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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Legion on August 31, 2013, 01:09:40 PM
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He'd been asked to play You'll Never Walk Alone for the last night – "But I'm not doing that. That's a Liverpool song, and I'm a Villa fan. I'm not going to play that shit!"
Full article (http://t.co/uGuh9dK8Rd)
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Ha ha.
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He's a fruitcake,a likeable and entertaining fruitcake,but still a fruitcake.
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Used to have a season ticket behind him in the upper Holte. Genuinely decent man.
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He's a weirdo, but a bloody good violinist, really interesting musician, and a Villa fan which is the highest compliment you can pay a human being, of course.
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Brilliant!
UTV!
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Good interview that. I met him down at QPR a couple of season's ago, he was a really nice fella.
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Fruitcake, probably,, absolute genius, no shadow of doubt, his Four Seasons echoes through Venice with pictures of Nigel in Villa scarf. Cameron claims to be a fan, Nigel shouts loyalty. great bloke, magnificent violinist who shows children that classical music is not some posh out of touch world.
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I read it and couldn't get the thought of Ben Elton doing his youth TV presenter out of my head. Be honest, if he wasn't a Villa supporter most on here would think he's a bit of a dick!
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Met him at Fulham away last season.
He was very happy to talk to all and sundry, even low-lifes like me!!! ;-)
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He's a fruitcake,a likeable and entertaining fruitcake,but still a fruitcake.
He's our fruitcake.
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Top man and I might even watch the last night because of him.
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Top man and I might even watch the last night because of him.
Wonder if he'll finish with "The bells are ringing, for the claret and blue..."?
;-)
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Its great to have such a colourful,friendly,talented and decent chap as a "celebrity" villa fan though.But he is fruitcake.
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Its great to have such a colourful,friendly,talented and decent chap as a "celebrity" villa fan though.But he is fruitcake.
This is it for me - I've met him twice at Villa matches, what a lovely human being.
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You never forget the first time you meet our Nige.
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Nows here's a weird thing,I wonder if Nigel is reading this,or posts regularly under a different name.After all Im sure all mad keen loyal Villa fans read this site.
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I get the impress a lot of celebrities use football to appear to have the common touch. I think with Nige it's genuine.
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He was a football fan before it became popular to be one so I doubt it is band-wagon jumping.
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Decent bloke who has time for the normal fans and in no way looks at himself as a star fan - he is happy to be one of us and a real down to earth good guy.
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Anybody who paints their Jag claret and blue for a cup final, with a paint brush is good in my book. Villa 3- Manure 1. Ask him.
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I thought it was a BMW, not a jag. And I thought it was a few years before that because I saw it at at least one away game. Unless he painted a Jag too. Fair play to him either way.
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I read it and couldn't get the thought of Ben Elton doing his youth TV presenter out of my head. Be honest, if he wasn't a Villa supporter most on here would think he's a bit of a dick!
I'd think he was making previously elitist music accessible and good luck to him for it.
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It was a jag.
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It was a jag.
He had both a jag and a BMW that he painted claret and blue.
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Does he still not want to go down until we start spending the cash?
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He was a football fan before it became popular to be one so I doubt it is band-wagon jumping.
Exactly. The first time he entered my consciousness was when he picked up some award - a Brit? - in 1986 and said that the only thing that would make him happier was the Villa winning the Milk Cup. Anyone who was flaunting their love of football in the mid-80s was not doing it to be cool and, if anything, were setting themselves up as a social pariah.
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Met him at St Mary's last season in the 1-4 game the highlight of the day for me.
Previously met him in Birmingham about 88/89 when he had the jag and he pulled over and shook hands with us as we were wearing villa tops .
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Met him a few times whilst selling H&V. Always polite, friendly and ready for a chat.
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He was a football fan before it became popular to be one so I doubt it is band-wagon jumping.
Exactly. The first time he entered my consciousness was when he picked up some award - a Brit? - in 1986 and said that the only thing that would make him happier was the Villa winning the Milk Cup. Anyone who was flaunting their love of football in the mid-80s was not doing it to be cool and, if anything, were setting themselves up as a social pariah.
That was the first time I knew about him too. Me and my mate were discussing it at school the next day. As fifteen year olds I remember us latching onto the fact he called it the league cup as opposed to the milk cup. I think there was a documentary on him not long after where the Villa were mentioned. I also seem to remember a fit blonde punk girlfriend accompanying him to some games.
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I saw him at an away game once, can't remember where it was but he'd got more tickets than he needed so he was trying desperately to give the tickets away. After a while some fella near me tried desperately to give him money for them but Nige was insistent he wanted nothing! Top bloke!
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I saw him at an away game once, can't remember where it was but he'd got more tickets than he needed so he was trying desperately to give the tickets away. After a while some fella near me tried desperately to give him money for them but Nige was insistent he wanted nothing! Top bloke!
I got free tickets to some away games from him during the 90s including a trip to Old Trafford. Absolute gent and a genuine Villa fan.
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I got a ticket for the last standing game on the Holte End from him for a mate...I paid face value though, he's a tight git sometimes :D
I remember him at a midweek reserves game too. Everyone sang "Nigel give us a song"...and he stood up and replied "who are ya?"
Seems to be a happy, nutty, talented bloke with a dodgy accent who loves the Villa (Ha! My predictive text tried to make me say viola!)
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BTW fit punk woman was Brix E Smith former wife of Mark E Smith of the Fall
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I was trying to work out what the Villa shirt mentioned in the article was. After careful consideration, I don't think it is one. It looks like the Aston Martin logo, if anything.
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Anyone else remember him being on Star Test where he had draped a Villa scarf over the back of the chair? I used to enjoy Star Test.
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BTW fit punk woman was Brix E Smith former wife of Mark E Smith of the Fall
She was with Kennedy at one of the supporters' payer of the year bashes about 20 years ago. She dyed her hair claret and blue for the occasion.
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I'm the only Villa fan ever both not to have met Nigel Kennedy nor to have ever seen him at a match!
I did however stand behind Spizz when going into Craven Cottage last season, so that sort of makes up for it.
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Nige, if you are reading this, I would like to know the significance of the Kerry jersey.
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Nige, if you are reading this, I would like to know the significance of the Kerry jersey.
No idea what Nigel's connection is to Kerry, but he was possibly wearing their jersey because of their gaelic football semi-final against Dublin yesterday. Which they narrowly lost.
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He's possibly in trouble for voting fraud - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-23948816
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Fine and a slap on the wrist. Just means Glenda would have won by 41 votes instead of 42.
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I have worked at a polling station,its hard for that to happen.
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I have worked at a polling station,its hard for that to happen.
How is it?
All i have ever had to do when voting is show a polling card.
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Sometimes I've never even had to do that. Just given my name and address. Wide open to fraud.
But presumably Our Nige could just say he was talking rubbish. Impossible to prove in that case I'd have thought.
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Used to have a season ticket behind him in the upper Holte. Genuinely decent man.
He actually said a few weeks ago he hated our policy of selling all the good players and replacing them with lower league ones so I thought that was him posting under your username Saunders!
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I have worked at a polling station,its hard for that to happen.
How is it?
All i have ever had to do when voting is show a polling card.
I worked in a polling station, a couple of times when I was younger and agree with you. All you can do is check the card against the roll to make sure they haven't already voted. If it says Mr P. Walnuts on the card and it hasn't been crossed off, and you look to be the right gender you will be able to vote.
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You don't even need your polling card anymore. They just ask you your name, you give it, they cross it off their list and give you the voting paper.
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I was trying to work out what the Villa shirt mentioned in the article was. After careful consideration, I don't think it is one. It looks like the Aston Martin logo, if anything.
They used to sell MON shirts with the Aston Martin logo on outside the ground. Maybe one of them?
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I was trying to work out what the Villa shirt mentioned in the article was. After careful consideration, I don't think it is one. It looks like the Aston Martin logo, if anything.
They used to sell MON shirts with the Aston Martin logo on outside the ground. Maybe one of them?
Ah yes, good shout. I reckon that's probably it.
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On now on Last Night of the Proms. No Villa shirt like he had on in rehearsals. Part-timer.
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On now on Last Night of the Proms. No Villa shirt like he had on in rehearsals. Part-timer.
Coming back for the second half though #fingers crossed
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He will have a scarf on later hopefully
Legend
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Looking forward to seeing him out there. I reckon he will do the Liverpool song for the crack!
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However he dressed his performance was brilliant.
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However he dressed his performance was brilliant.
Bravo - the Proms is about music, and I agree it was superb
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on now, Gabby11 shirt on , top bloke VTID
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However he dressed his performance was brilliant.
Bravo - the Proms is about music, and I agree it was superb
Not my thing sadly. I can appreciate the amazing talent but it bores me to tears.
Until they do all the hits at the end. I love that, always have.
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A bit of publicity for Acorns as well. Good man, Nigel!
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Great from Nige in his Gabby Villa shirt! Good advert for us on the beeb..
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I love his playing around with the other musicians on this.
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However he dressed his performance was brilliant.
Bravo - the Proms is about music, and I agree it was superb
Not my thing sadly. I can appreciate the amazing talent but it bores me to tears.
Until they do all the hits at the end. I love that, always have.
Respect to you Percy.
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However he dressed his performance was brilliant.
Bravo - the Proms is about music, and I agree it was superb
Not my thing sadly. I can appreciate the amazing talent but it bores me to tears.
Until they do all the hits at the end. I love that, always have.
Respect to you Percy.
I take it back, that was ace.
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That boy can fiddle
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Fantastic.Not my thing really, but absolutely brilliant.
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Is there video somewhere of this performance?
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He stuck to his word.
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Brilliant...even gives the conductor a fist bump at the end...maybe the gaby and acorns shirt was in recognition of gabys unpublicised work and very large donations he makes to them...
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Is there video somewhere of this performance?
Iplayer later?
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On a side note they played a tune by Granville Bantock who lived in Harborne.
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Pool song no Nigel. 2nd half brilliant again . God knows how many themes he worked in. What a boost for acorns, and a bloke who should be with England. Splendid.
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Is there video somewhere of this performance?
Iplayer later?
The programme is still on - you can go to the iPlayer and then choose the live feed and click on 'Restart the current programme' - use the slider to get you to about 10 to 10, when he came on.
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Rule Brittania now. I love being British, if countries were football clubs Britain would be Villa. The one with all the class and tradition.
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There's a little Villa flag on the conductor's podium.
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Can't believe I missed Nige. I turned Proms on about 15 minutes ago because there is something so quintessentially British about Rule Britannia and Land of Hope and Glory etc. It's ace.
And who else had the words "We hate Nottingham Forest" in their head>
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Rule Brittania now. I love being British, if countries were football clubs Britain would be Villa. The one with all the class and tradition.
Yet, ultimately, the one nobody really cares about, and have never won anything for many, many years?
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Rule Brittania now. I love being British, if countries were football clubs Britain would be Villa. The one with all the class and tradition.
Yet, ultimately, the one nobody really cares about, and have never won anything for many, many years?
You make us sound like Small Heath. Jesus wept.
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Rule Brittania now. I love being British, if countries were football clubs Britain would be Villa. The one with all the class and tradition.
Yet, ultimately, the one nobody really cares about, and have never won anything for many, many years?
Fuck off.
I mean that in a nice way.
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Rule Brittania now. I love being British, if countries were football clubs Britain would be Villa. The one with all the class and tradition.
You sound like David Cameron.
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Rule Brittania now. I love being British, if countries were football clubs Britain would be Villa. The one with all the class and tradition.
Yet, ultimately, the one nobody really cares about, and have never won anything for many, many years?
The one that flexes its muscles occasionally and makes the world realise how how lucky it is to have us.
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Rule Brittania now. I love being British, if countries were football clubs Britain would be Villa. The one with all the class and tradition.
You sound like David Cameron.
How original.
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Rule Brittania now. I love being British, if countries were football clubs Britain would be Villa. The one with all the class and tradition.
You sound like David Cameron.
How original.
Thanks.
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wonder if woy saw that and thought who's that on the back of his shirt
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The thing I like about Nigel Kennedy is that, occasionally, I hear fans of other clubs speak disparagingly of him, as if he's some sort of typical celebrity "fan" whose allegiance is just an issue for popularity and common man appeal (Cameron, Blair, plus many others), but I can put them right and explain how they're actually totally wrong.
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No adjective can describe him?
Brilliant ?
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Was he allowed to say what he wanted to or did the BBC censer him again?
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Rule Brittania now. I love being British, if countries were football clubs Britain would be Villa. The one with all the class and tradition.
Yet, ultimately, the one nobody really cares about, and have never won anything for many, many years?
Wimbledon? Olympic gold medals? Tha Ashes? Wars?
Or are you on about the Eurovision song contest?
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Rule Brittania now. I love being British, if countries were football clubs Britain would be Villa. The one with all the class and tradition.
Yet, ultimately, the one nobody really cares about, and have never won anything for many, many years?
Wimbledon? Olympic gold medals? Tha Ashes? Wars?
Or are you on about the Eurovision song contest?
I think he on about UEFA fair play league.
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how many other bits did he get into that piece. I definitely heard Bonanza
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Rule Brittania now. I love being British, if countries were football clubs Britain would be Villa. The one with all the class and tradition.
Yet, ultimately, the one nobody really cares about, and have never won anything for many, many years?
Wimbledon? Olympic gold medals? Tha Ashes? Wars?
Or are you on about the Eurovision song contest?
I thought the thing that said most about Britain in recent years was during the Olympics opening ceremony (which was superb), and in particular when they were doing the teams all walking around the stadium one after another.
When Team GB came out, they started playing Bowie's Heroes.
I just thought, whatever you think of jingoism or sport or athletics, what a truly tastefully inspired choice of (British) music to fit that moment.
I actually found it quite emotionally involving, and I am incredibly stony faced about that sort of thing usually.
That's the sort of thing we're good at.
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It's about time we got over our past and celebrate what a great country we live in.
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Well, that and inventing the modern world.
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It's about time we got over our past and celebrate what a great country we live in.
Errr, isn't the great country we are largely due to our past?
There is no way we should ignore the bad things we've done, but there's no reason we shouldn't be proud of the good things.
To put it in a nutsell, we should be proud of our role in policing the abolition of slavery, but at the same time, somewhat ashamed of the fact we profited so much from it for 300 years.
The good things massively outweigh the bad, though.
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It's about time we got over our past and celebrate what a great country we live in.
Errr, isn't the great country we are largely due to our past?
There is no way we should ignore the bad things we've done, but there's no reason we shouldn't be proud of the good things.
To put it in a nutsell, we should be proud of our role in policing the abolition of slavery, but at the same time, somewhat ashamed of the fact we profited so much from it for 300 years.
The good things massively outweigh the bad, though.
Not anymore its time to move on that's what Danny Boyles opening ceremony was all about.OK we fucked up,but we have one of the most open country's in the world.It's time we celebrated that.When people come from another country they love our Britishness and long my it continue.
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Loving your Britishness doesn't mean forgetting the bad things.
I'll bet you what you like Danny Boyle didn't mean that.
It's easy to say "move on" when you were the guilty party.
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Loving your Britishness doesn't mean forgetting the bad things.
I'll bet you what you like Danny Boyle didn't mean that.
It's easy to say "move on" when you were the guilty party.
But for how long do you carry it on.Look at Australia they have just voted in a government that has said they will turn boats around even if they have children on board.We would never do that.I and you cannot make amends for what happened in the past. Celebrating being British or English for that matter should not be an embarrassment.
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I wonder if gabby ever sees this
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I wonder if gabby ever sees this
He strikes me as a huge fan of classical music!
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Loving your Britishness doesn't mean forgetting the bad things.
I'll bet you what you like Danny Boyle didn't mean that.
It's easy to say "move on" when you were the guilty party.
But for how long do you carry it on.Look at Australia they have just voted in a government that has said they will turn boats around even if they have children on board.We would never do that.
You any idea how many people are dying on these boats because they don't get safety turned around.
Over the last few years it's certainly into the hundreds, probably thousands.
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Loving your Britishness doesn't mean forgetting the bad things.
I'll bet you what you like Danny Boyle didn't mean that.
It's easy to say "move on" when you were the guilty party.
But for how long do you carry it on.Look at Australia they have just voted in a government that has said they will turn boats around even if they have children on board.We would never do that.
You any idea how many people are dying on these boats because they don't get safety turned around.
Over the last few years it's certainly into the hundreds, probably thousands.
Yeah, I'm sure that's the motivation behind the policy.
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He was on r2 last night playing 'The lark ascending'. Not sure if he was wearing anything Villa related though.
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It's on the bbc iplayer , if anyone missed it take a look, brilliant and Nige was superb.
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Thanks. Watching it now. Scroll to @27.77.
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Loving your Britishness doesn't mean forgetting the bad things.
I'll bet you what you like Danny Boyle didn't mean that.
It's easy to say "move on" when you were the guilty party.
But for how long do you carry it on.Look at Australia they have just voted in a government that has said they will turn boats around even if they have children on board.We would never do that.I and you cannot make amends for what happened in the past. Celebrating being British or English for that matter should not be an embarrassment.
I never said it should be an embarrassment!
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Rule Brittania now. I love being British, if countries were football clubs Britain would be Villa. The one with all the class and tradition.
Yet, ultimately, the one nobody really cares about, and have never won anything for many, many years?
Wimbledon? Olympic gold medals? Tha Ashes? Wars?
Or are you on about the Eurovision song contest?
I was thinking football.
Come on though, speak to other clubs fans and nobody really cares about us. Nobody hates us (other than the obvious). We're just there. Unless you support Villa, would you really pay any attention to us? I don't think people do.
Just my opinion.
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Maybe if we increased our levels of self-loathing, then people would care more?
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Rule Brittania now. I love being British, if countries were football clubs Britain would be Villa. The one with all the class and tradition.
Yet, ultimately, the one nobody really cares about, and have never won anything for many, many years?
Wimbledon? Olympic gold medals? Tha Ashes? Wars?
Or are you on about the Eurovision song contest?
I was thinking football.
Come on though, speak to other clubs fans and nobody really cares about us. Nobody hates us (other than the obvious). We're just there. Unless you support Villa, would you really pay any attention to us? I don't think people do.
Just my opinion.
Just your opinion, but not one I agree with. Perhaps it's a generational thing.
Plenty of people I meet speak about the Villa. Some still puzzled about O'Neill flouncing off, some impressed with what Lambert is doing and some remembering trips to VP with their respective teams. If you allow yourself to think that the football is only about the clubs anointed by Sky then I suppose you might draw that conclusion but if you look at it from a wider perspective then I think you get a different picture.
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I wonder if gabby ever sees this
He strikes me as a huge fan of classical music!
If you ask Gabby what classical music is, he'd tell you it's Tupac and the Fugees.
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I wonder if gabby ever sees this
He strikes me as a huge fan of classical music!
If you ask Gabby what classical music is, he'd tell you it's Tupac and the Fugees.
As far as footballers go with his middle class background I expect him more likely than others.
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It's easy to mock Nigel, he cuts a slightly pantomime figure when he's interviewed...but when you see him doing what he became famous for, you realise he has the chops to back it up. Just watched the Vaughn Williams a couple of times. It was beautiful.
We played his version of this at my wife's funeral, it was magical.
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He points at someone in the crowd holding a Chelsea flag and does the money gesture with his fingers.
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Hasn't gone down well over in Small Heath. They seem very angry for some reason.....
http://www.that lot.com/read.php?1,1356240,page=1
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Hasn't gone down well over in Small Heath. They seem very angry for some reason.....
http://www.that lot.com/read.php?1,1356240,page=1
This one got it right.
If ever 1 man epitomised a club's support this is it
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Some very well thought out artistic appraisals there. He is a dickhead and a crap violinist. They even googled a few violinists to throw in a few examples of better ones.
"I was enjoying an evening of British pomp and have been forced to turn over and watch Keith Lemon.
Hate is not strong enough a word."
Contempt isn't strong enough a word.
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Anyone would think they were obsessed with us.
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Loving your Britishness doesn't mean forgetting the bad things.
I'll bet you what you like Danny Boyle didn't mean that.
It's easy to say "move on" when you were the guilty party.
But for how long do you carry it on.Look at Australia they have just voted in a government that has said they will turn boats around even if they have children on board.We would never do that.
You any idea how many people are dying on these boats because they don't get safety turned around.
Over the last few years it's certainly into the hundreds, probably thousands.
Yeah, I'm sure that's the motivation behind the policy.
It's actually a humanitarian disaster. Paying a people smuggler in Indonesia up to $20k to get onboard a leaky fishing boat that could barely get across the English Channel on a calm day in the hope of either finding Christmas Island (that's the tiny dot on the map in the Indian Ocean) or sink and pray to God that the Australian Navy can get there quick enough to rescue you. Only it can take the Navy many hours to locate where the boat is/was and often they just find driftwood and some bodies.
All this while the Indonesian Government looks on refusing to lift a finger.
That's the sad reality and the reason why both Labour and Liberal have some fairly hard core policies to try and counteract this (Labour's deterrent being you go straight to a camp PNG and be re-settled there and have no chance of ever setting foot in Australia if you arrive on a boat - Liberals being they'll patrol the Indian Ocean further north, intercept them and where safe tow them back to Indonesia). That's how bad the situation and loss of life has become.
Not that i'd expect you to know any of that, why would you.
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Just your opinion, but not one I agree with. Perhaps it's a generational thing.
Plenty of people I meet speak about the Villa. Some still puzzled about O'Neill flouncing off, some impressed with what Lambert is doing and some remembering trips to VP with their respective teams. If you allow yourself to think that the football is only about the clubs anointed by Sky then I suppose you might draw that conclusion but if you look at it from a wider perspective then I think you get a different picture.
There is a generational split, I think. I went to the Falkirk-Dunfermline game a couple of weeks ago, and a few older guys talked to me about the Villa pretty much non-stop throughout the game - and they weren't fans, they were just talking about the Villa like neutrals talk about any huge club. However, a couple of the closer-to-adolescents laughed as if I was a 90 year old who still thought 'wicked' was relevant slang.
I think there are two areas of neutral fans who like us, and they're quite far apart: older guys who think of us as the embodiment of footballing tradition; and the football hipsters who read the Guardian and worship Barney Ronay - and they like Lambert and that we're playing psychotically entertaining football with our super-race of toddlers.
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The best part about it is you just know Nige wouldn't give a f**k and would laugh.
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I sometimes wonder whether some of these flumps like Kennedy, CMD and Wills 'support' Villa because they see the association with brum making them look a bit in touch with the working class. The irony being that Villa's (active) fan base is probably the least working class of any of the Midlands clubs
From some Boggie at WBA Unofficial.
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I sometimes wonder whether some of these flumps like Kennedy, CMD and Wills 'support' Villa because they see the association with brum making them look a bit in touch with the working class. The irony being that Villa's (active) fan base is probably the least working class of any of the Midlands clubs
From some Boggie at WBA Unofficial.
I like that 'active' bit, which implies they have some massive dormant support just waiting to come to life.
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That link to Small Heath Alliance posted earlier is absolute gold. At least half must be Villa fans on a wind up.
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I sometimes wonder whether some of these flumps like Kennedy, CMD and Wills 'support' Villa because they see the association with brum making them look a bit in touch with the working class. The irony being that Villa's (active) fan base is probably the least working class of any of the Midlands clubs
From some Boggie at WBA Unofficial.
So we are all John Cleese and they are The Two Ronnies.
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I sometimes wonder whether some of these flumps like Kennedy, CMD and Wills 'support' Villa because they see the association with brum making them look a bit in touch with the working class. The irony being that Villa's (active) fan base is probably the least working class of any of the Midlands clubs
From some Boggie at WBA Unofficial.[/b]
This is the myth that I find the most amusing about our rivals. I have no idea regarding the background of Albion's support, but if you look at the Blues, most of their support comes from such notorious working class ghettos as Solihull, Knowle, and Dorridge.
I believe Karen Brady started it off when the Blues were promoted to the Prem for the first time. This indirectly led to Blues fans thinking they could come into the home ends on 03/03/03 because they believed we were all flag-waving middle-class tossers.
They had a shock.
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I don't celebrate being british unless its a Lions tour or athletics. I'm English.
Anyway, has any other club got such an overtly conspicuous fan as we do with our Nige? He clearly is just one of us and a big kid about it.at every chance he's donning some Villa apparel.
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He seems to be a Villa fan first and a musician 2nd and uses his ability and worldwide renown to show off the first.
Keep up the good work Nigel.
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I don't celebrate being british unless its a Lions tour or athletics. I'm English.
Anyway, has any other club got such an overtly conspicuous fan as we do with our Nige? He clearly is just one of us and a big kid about it.at every chance he's donning some Villa apparel.
That's just it. He's like a big kid. He's been at the top of his profession for decades yet it's all still a big adventure for him. May I be struck down for this but he could be a Stripey and I'd like him.
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I remember years ago he used to buy old Jags and spray paint them claret and blue. You'd see them on match days. Has anyone got any pics?
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I remember years ago he used to buy old Jags and spray paint them claret and blue. You'd see them on match days. Has anyone got any pics?
You could try looking at page 2 of the thread ;)
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I sometimes wonder whether some of these flumps like Kennedy, CMD and Wills 'support' Villa because they see the association with brum making them look a bit in touch with the working class. The irony being that Villa's (active) fan base is probably the least working class of any of the Midlands clubs
From some Boggie at WBA Unofficial.
I like that 'active' bit, which implies they have some massive dormant support just waiting to come to life.
If WOrld War Z ever happens.
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The commentator described Nige as being dressed in his beloved Aston villa shirt, and said she thought he loved villa almost as much as his violin . The bloke is an absolute legend. Was really proud last night.
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Just watched it. Fantastic entertainment and spreading the gospel at the same time. What more could anyone want?
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TFAUSM incorporated into his repertoire!
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I remember years ago he used to buy old Jags and spray paint them claret and blue. You'd see them on match days. Has anyone got any pics?
You could try looking at page 2 of the thread ;)
I thought I did - today's hangover must have been worse than normal - missed it!!! :-)
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TFAUSM incorporated into his repertoire!
Eh?
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he would come over an absolute knob if it wasn't for the fact he that he is just a shear genius with the violin,
you just know that everyone looking at him in the audience and playing with him in the orchestra are thinking he is a bit weird and nutty but fuck me he can just make that fiddle talk
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Theme From An Unmade Silent Movie.
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Box of frogs....but an absolute fucking genius.
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he would come over an absolute knob if it wasn't for the fact he that he is just a shear genius with the violin,
you just know that everyone looking at him in the audience and playing with him in the orchestra are thinking he is a bit weird and nutty but fuck me he can just make that fiddle talk
He always comes over as a really decent person to me. Don't know of any knobbish behaviour from Kennedy.
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he would come over an absolute knob if it wasn't for the fact he that he is just a shear genius with the violin,
you just know that everyone looking at him in the audience and playing with him in the orchestra are thinking he is a bit weird and nutty but fuck me he can just make that fiddle talk
He always comes over as a really decent person to me. Don't know of any knobbish behaviour from Kennedy.
Agreed and quite the opposite. There are tons of stories of him giving people lifts, helping out with tickets etc. He's just unconventional, he doesn't confirm to the others and that's one of the things I love about him.
The fact that he's a Villa fan from the days of relegation to the 2nd Division before football became the sanctuary of the Lovejoys and Nesbitts of this world just makes it all the better.
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he would come over an absolute knob if it wasn't for the fact he that he is just a shear genius with the violin,
you just know that everyone looking at him in the audience and playing with him in the orchestra are thinking he is a bit weird and nutty but fuck me he can just make that fiddle talk
He always comes over as a really decent person to me. Don't know of any knobbish behaviour from Kennedy.
Agreed and quite the opposite. There are tons of stories of him giving people lifts, helping out with tickets etc. He's just unconventional, he doesn't confirm to the others and that's one of the things I love about him.
The fact that he's a Villa fan from the days of relegation to the 2nd Division before football became the sanctuary of the Lovejoys and Nesbitts of this world just makes it all the better.
no agree with you both,
I was more meaning the way he dresses and acts when he is performing, you really have to be brilliant at what you do to get away with it
also like others who have met him , I had a piss next to him at West Ham away first game last season, said hello on the way out and he gave me a little man hug
also saw him at Athletico some years back, in the thick of it with the away fans, no posh box for Nigel he was being pushed around like everyone else
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I sold him a copy of the fanzine on a dark winters evening outside the old Trinity Road stand [I think we were playing Newcastle]
No free copy for him from me!
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He's just a top bloke. Genuinely enthusiastic about the Villa, nice to fellow fans (popped over for a chat before one game when I was selling H+V). He's a genius with the violin too.
What's not to like?
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How old is he?
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How old is he?
56
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Rule Brittania now. I love being British, if countries were football clubs Britain would be Villa. The one with all the class and tradition.
Yet, ultimately, the one nobody really cares about, and have never won anything for many, many years?
Wimbledon? Olympic gold medals? Tha Ashes? Wars?
Or are you on about the Eurovision song contest?
I was thinking football.
Come on though, speak to other clubs fans and nobody really cares about us. Nobody hates us (other than the obvious). We're just there. Unless you support Villa, would you really pay any attention to us? I don't think people do.
Just my opinion.
Just your opinion, but not one I agree with. Perhaps it's a generational thing.
Plenty of people I meet speak about the Villa. Some still puzzled about O'Neill flouncing off, some impressed with what Lambert is doing and some remembering trips to VP with their respective teams. If you allow yourself to think that the football is only about the clubs anointed by Sky then I suppose you might draw that conclusion but if you look at it from a wider perspective then I think you get a different picture.
I speak to a lot of fans from other clubs who have strong memories of their first trip to Villa Park.
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And so what if fans from other clubs "don't care about us". To be honest I couldn't care less about any football club other than the Villa but it doesn't make those other clubs any less relevant than what they really are.
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Didn't some Wolves fans chuck tins of "old gold" (yellow) and black paint over his jag once?
Dog Heads ay they?
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You can see his spectacular performance on the OS. Stunning
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I sometimes wonder whether some of these flumps like Kennedy, CMD and Wills 'support' Villa because they see the association with brum making them look a bit in touch with the working class. The irony being that Villa's (active) fan base is probably the least working class of any of the Midlands clubs
From some Boggie at WBA Unofficial.
I like that 'active' bit, which implies they have some massive dormant support just waiting to come to life.
If WOrld War Z ever happens.
Ha ha!
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Did anyone else spot the Villa flag on the conductors podium during the Last Night of The Proms?
You can see it clearly when Nigel is playing
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I sometimes wonder whether some of these flumps like Kennedy, CMD and Wills 'support' Villa because they see the association with brum making them look a bit in touch with the working class. The irony being that Villa's (active) fan base is probably the least working class of any of the Midlands clubs
From some Boggie at WBA Unofficial.
I'm guessing he threw in the word 'probably' as he hasn't quite completed his intense research of every club in the entire Midlands.
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I sometimes wonder whether some of these flumps like Kennedy, CMD and Wills 'support' Villa because they see the association with brum making them look a bit in touch with the working class. The irony being that Villa's (active) fan base is probably the least working class of any of the Midlands clubs
From some Boggie at WBA Unofficial.
I'm guessing he threw in the word 'probably' as he hasn't quite completed his intense research of every club in the entire Midlands.
The other irony being that the Stripeys have reinvented themselves as the club of the trendy Midlands literati.
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I sometimes wonder whether some of these flumps like Kennedy, CMD and Wills 'support' Villa because they see the association with brum making them look a bit in touch with the working class. The irony being that Villa's (active) fan base is probably the least working class of any of the Midlands clubs
From some Boggie at WBA Unofficial.
I'm guessing he threw in the word 'probably' as he hasn't quite completed his intense research of every club in the entire Midlands.
The other irony being that the Stripeys have reinvented themselves as the club of the trendy Midlands literati.
Bill Howell is the only known Albion fan who has the ability to read.
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I sometimes wonder whether some of these flumps like Kennedy, CMD and Wills 'support' Villa because they see the association with brum making them look a bit in touch with the working class. The irony being that Villa's (active) fan base is probably the least working class of any of the Midlands clubs
From some Boggie at WBA Unofficial.
I'm guessing he threw in the word 'probably' as he hasn't quite completed his intense research of every club in the entire Midlands.
The other irony being that the Stripeys have reinvented themselves as the club of the trendy Midlands literati.
Its a point of view that seems to persist about Villa. I know a very middle class Swedish guy who moved over here and chose Birmingham as his team cos they are 'the working class club'. Right on middle class folk seem to gravitate towards what they perceive to be 'authentic' working class. They have a daft assumption of working class being all about failure so they plump for the down and out clubs. As if working class people wouldn't be interested in supporting decent football teams in decent stadiums.
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Right on middle class folk seem to gravitate towards what they perceive to be 'authentic' working class. They have a daft assumption of working class being all about failure so they plump for the down and out clubs. As if working class people wouldn't be interested in supporting decent football teams in decent stadiums.
Clubs like Arsenal and Chelsea?
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I sometimes wonder whether some of these flumps like Kennedy, CMD and Wills 'support' Villa because they see the association with brum making them look a bit in touch with the working class. The irony being that Villa's (active) fan base is probably the least working class of any of the Midlands clubs
From some Boggie at WBA Unofficial.
I'm guessing he threw in the word 'probably' as he hasn't quite completed his intense research of every club in the entire Midlands.
The other irony being that the Stripeys have reinvented themselves as the club of the trendy Midlands literati.
Its a point of view that seems to persist about Villa. I know a very middle class Swedish guy who moved over here and chose Birmingham as his team cos they are 'the working class club'. Right on middle class folk seem to gravitate towards what they perceive to be 'authentic' working class. They have a daft assumption of working class being all about failure so they plump for the down and out clubs. As if working class people wouldn't be interested in supporting decent football teams in decent stadiums.
Said it before and I'll say it again. One of the best football marketing jobs this century has been the Stripeys going from a nothing club watched by Black Country dullards to plucky little outsiders enjoying their time in the sun, patronised by the big boys, to their current position, regarded as purveyors of scintillating football, the fashionable club of the chattering classes. I know, and know of, more of their supporters in the media than any other club.
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Right on middle class folk seem to gravitate towards what they perceive to be 'authentic' working class. They have a daft assumption of working class being all about failure so they plump for the down and out clubs. As if working class people wouldn't be interested in supporting decent football teams in decent stadiums.
Clubs like Arsenal and Chelsea?
I meant a different type of middle class fan to the glory hunter type (hence 'right on'). The type like my example. He wanted to support a working class club so just assumed that must be Birmingham because they're rubbish, get small crowds and their ground is a dump.
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Albion. Fashionable, really?
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Albion. Fashionable, really?
Someone forgot to tell Odemwingie.
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As somone from very humble beginings ( born in my parents Digs in Aston Church Rd, close to Taronis scrap yard) I have expressed my middle class pretentions by ordering Nigels greatest hits from Amzon.
Is it not an oxymoron by describing the noses as working class ?
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As somone from very humble beginings ( born in my parents Digs in Aston Church Rd, close to Taronis scrap yard) I have expressed my middle class pretentions by ordering Nigels greatest hits from Amzon.
Is it not an oxymoron by describing the noses as working class ?
That's unfair.
We know they work, because that's why they can't get to the game.
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Maybe it should be the idle class :)
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This is where I prefer noses to Albion fans. What you see is what you you get. There is just 'working' or 'not working'. As in "couldn't go because I was working" or "couldn't go because I'm not working at the moment". And class doesn't get brought into it at any point because there is absolutely no class whatsoever.
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Its a point of view that seems to persist about Villa. I know a very middle class Swedish guy who moved over here and chose Birmingham as his team cos they are 'the working class club'. Right on middle class folk seem to gravitate towards what they perceive to be 'authentic' working class. They have a daft assumption of working class being all about failure so they plump for the down and out clubs. As if working class people wouldn't be interested in supporting decent football teams in decent stadiums.
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I understand what you mean Stuart. I know a couple who came to Brum 15-20 years ago, he is from Canada, she is from Leeds, and they very purposefully chose Blues for the reasons you cite.
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If Blose are the working class club why does the majority of their support come from Solihull? This is based on season tickets and members if memory serves me correctly.
Hardly the stuff of Springsteen, blue collar, born on the wrong side of the tracks folklore from what I remember growing up there. Even the old council estates are rather pleasant now!
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Solihull includes the hamlets of Chelmsley Wood, Fordbridge and Smiths Wood. Not to mention Shirley.
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Solihull includes the hamlets of Chelmsley Wood, Fordbridge and Smiths Wood.
Which, apart from the older generation, are probably about 50/50 Villa/SH. And I'd bet money that more of us actually go to games.
And don't forget Kingshurst, which is mainly Villa now I'd say.
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I still see their "stronghold" being along the Coventry Rd corridor , sort of from the airport through Sheldon up through yardley and into Hay Mills and Small Heath / Bordesley. Even in those areas you're looking at at least 50% villa, Probably more.
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Solihull includes the hamlets of Chelmsley Wood, Fordbridge and Smiths Wood. Not to mention Shirley.
Shirley? It's hardly in the same economic class as the others! My point wasn't that Solihull is exclusively Blose more that it is where the rare creatures who attend St Andrews are most often from.
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Solihull includes the hamlets of Chelmsley Wood, Fordbridge and Smiths Wood. Not to mention Shirley.
Shirley? It's hardly in the same economic class as the others! My point wasn't that Solihull is exclusively Blose more that it is where the rare creatures who attend St Andrews are most often from.
Plenty from the mean streets of struggle in Knowle/Dorridge and surrounding villages.
Weirdly, Balsall Common is mostly Villa with a few Cov/Blues scattered about, then going out into Leamington and Warwick, it's practically all Villa.
We probably do have more middle class fans than the others, but that's just because we have more support across the entire region and country, fuck all to do with being the 'posh' club of the city.
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I can tell you, on good authority, that Knowle and Dorridge has a mix of supporters but the majority of 'locals' are Villa. You'll very rarely see anyone walking our streets in a Blose shirt. Having said that, you don't get many walking around in any shirts except on match days.
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Solihull includes the hamlets of Chelmsley Wood, Fordbridge and Smiths Wood. Not to mention Shirley.
Shirley? It's hardly in the same economic class as the others! My point wasn't that Solihull is exclusively Blose more that it is where the rare creatures who attend St Andrews are most often from.
Plenty from the mean streets of struggle in Knowle/Dorridge and surrounding villages.
Weirdly, Balsall Common is mostly Villa with a few Cov/Blues scattered about, then going out into Leamington and Warwick, it's practically all Villa.
We probably do have more middle class fans than the others, but that's just because we have more support across the entire region and country, fuck all to do with being the 'posh' club of the city.
I think the fact that all the so call Blose areas are now full of Villa is one of the things that upsets them, the most. I think it may even begin to readjust their previous belief that they are a BIG club, sleeping giant if you will and perhaps not the hardest set of supporters in the world!
I love the look on their faces when they walk into one of their so called Blues pubs when we are on and it's packed with Villa.
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Its a point of view that seems to persist about Villa. I know a very middle class Swedish guy who moved over here and chose Birmingham as his team cos they are 'the working class club'. Right on middle class folk seem to gravitate towards what they perceive to be 'authentic' working class. They have a daft assumption of working class being all about failure so they plump for the down and out clubs. As if working class people wouldn't be interested in supporting decent football teams in decent stadiums.
I understand what you mean Stuart. I know a couple who came to Brum 15-20 years ago, he is from Canada, she is from Leeds, and they very purposefully chose Blues for the reasons you cite.
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I can understand this to be fair.
If I moved somewhere and had a choice of clubs to support, I wouldn't pick the biggest and most successful. I'd go for the underdogs.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
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Whatever happened to the Plattmans?
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After the Proms a friend of mine whose partner works with the Symphonic Orchestra, was invited to an all-nighter at Niges' pile in Hampstead. Said he had one of the best nights of his life. Nigel was the consummate host, great raconteur but also wanting to listen to other people's views - the more contrary the better.
His Polish band were also there. They said it was worth being broke three-quarters of the year just to spend a couple of months working with Kennedy.
At the end of the night, going on for 10am apparently, he made them all eggs benedict with caviar and champers for brekkie.
My mate (only recently acquainted, so I'll let him off) added, "Oh, I forgot you were a Villa fan. Would have invited you if I'd thought of it. He had that fuckin' shirt on all night."
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Saw Nige in the store after the game on Saturday. Although he had an armful of shirts, he was happy to sign our programme and have a chat about the game. A celeb with no ego ? What went wrong?
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A celeb with no ego ? What went wrong?
He has nothing to prove to anybody.
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Only meant it as a joke, EI.
Nigel can't be a celeb -he actually has talent!
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Used to have a season ticket behind him in the upper Holte. Genuinely decent man.
I had one the row in front of him. I'm constantly trying to get him to join the Kingston Lions.
For anyone that didn't see it...
Great piece of music and great sense of humour.