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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Rudy65 on August 17, 2013, 05:06:27 PM
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Probably hyperbole after the result today. However, some real similarities. Young team, great centre forward, great counter attacking side, underestimated by the experts and a young upcoming manager.
Lets hope the outcome is the same! Lots of goals, great attacking football and a trophy and fourth place finish.
Although 81 and 82 were great seasons for obvious reasons, 76/77 is the stand out season in my life time, just for the sheer entertainment
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Probably hyperbole after the result today. However, some real similarities. Young team, great centre forward, great counter attacking side, underestimated by the experts and a young upcoming manager.
Lets hope the outcome is the same! Lots of goals, great attacking football and a trophy and fourth place finish.
Although 81 and 82 were great seasons for obvious reasons, 76/77 is the stand out season in my life time, just for the sheer entertainment
76/77 is also my all-time favourite season .... but I'll reserve judgement on this lot right now. We lack a Sid Cowans i n the middle and the defensive solidity that we had back then.
But ask again in 2 months' time!
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Come on, they were the best Villa team any H&Ver has ever seen! We're decidedly ramshackle in comparison.
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I can see the similarities, but agree with Mr.E in that although we've come a long way in a short time, we're not quite there yet.
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Similarities yes , it will be an exciting season ahead and this team is only going to get better - good times are around the corner - at last!
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I have been thinking this. An exiting team that scores lots of goals. I seem to remember we were well liked by the neutrals in 76/77 as well.
Wouldn't it be great if the score against Liverpool at Villa Park was the same! Can always dream!!
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A bit of a difference is that this 21st-century version looks like it might be capable of picking up some points away from home.
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A bit of a difference is that this 21st-century version looks like it might be capable of picking up some points away from home.
Yes that team was brilliant at home but not so clever on its travels. Shame as the title would have been a distinct possibility with a bit more resilience on the road.
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When we start destroying teams at Villa Park we can talk again. Right now, the only comparison is the commitment.
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I think we'll still toil at home more than away because the counter-attack remains our best weapon of attack.
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We done well so far but we got a long way to become a top side. We need more goals from the team and pass the ball better so we can destroy a team with our passing skills like Barcelona. It is exciting to see the potential. I can't compare the team to the 76/77/78 era as I never went to the match as it is before my time.
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those were the days when we were putting 5 against teams for fun.
Liverpool and Arsenal included
I feel a similarity coming on
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Lets not compare these against anyone - lets just enjoy them for what they are
It is only one win against a team falling apart at the seams (snigger)
Lets just go again ::)
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Lets not compare these against anyone - lets just enjoy them for what they are
It is only one win against a team falling apart at the seams (snigger)
Lets just go again ::)
With 110% effort and the fans' backing.
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Probably hyperbole after the result today. However, some real similarities. Young team, great centre forward, great counter attacking side, underestimated by the experts and a young upcoming manager.
Lets hope the outcome is the same! Lots of goals, great attacking football and a trophy and fourth place finish.
Although 81 and 82 were great seasons for obvious reasons, 76/77 is the stand out season in my life time, just for the sheer entertainment
76/77 is also my all-time favourite season .... but I'll reserve judgement on this lot right now. We lack a Sid Cowans i n the middle and the defensive solidity that we had back then.
But ask again in 2 months' time!
Lets see first if we are 5-1 up against Liverpool at half-time. But even that would be forgetting that that was Liverpools best ever team.
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I think we'll still toil at home more than away because the counter-attack remains our best weapon of attack.
Yep, totally agree with this.
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Dare i say that we seem to be aping the team of MON's 3rd year
Fast, counter attacking play with exciting forward players
Bloody hell even PL jigs around like him when we score :o
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Come on, they were the best Villa team any H&Ver has ever seen! We're decidedly ramshackle in comparison.
Not old to remember 77 side but surely 81 better
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No two teams and no two seasons are the same. That having been said, I do see a resemblance to 95/96. Sorry - was only 1 year old for 76/77!
1. New young manager.
2. Difficult first season with signs of what he was trying to build.
3. Busy summer of transfers.
4. Moving old players on and building around youth.
5. Beat a top side 3-1 on opening day.
I think style wise the two sides are different, as Brian built his around a a solid defence and had seasoned pros such as Townsend and McGrath, but the steps to building something great do seem to be similar.
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Probably hyperbole after the result today. However, some real similarities. Young team, great centre forward, great counter attacking side, underestimated by the experts and a young upcoming manager.
Lets hope the outcome is the same! Lots of goals, great attacking football and a trophy and fourth place finish.
Although 81 and 82 were great seasons for obvious reasons, 76/77 is the stand out season in my life time, just for the sheer entertainment
76/77 is also my all-time favourite season .... but I'll reserve judgement on this lot right now. We lack a Sid Cowans i n the middle and the defensive solidity that we had back then.
But ask again in 2 months' time!
Sid Cowans was still a 17 year old rookie sub in 76/77. Didn't begin to establish himself till after the Cropley leg break the following season, & I don't think he was seen as the player he is now for a while longer than that. We may yet have another Sid coming through!
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Another one too young to remember for 1977.
1980-81 was surely the best team though just because of the position at the end of the season.
1995-96 was a great season because it did in part come a bit from left field.
I'll settle for anything near as good as any of them
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Probably hyperbole after the result today. However, some real similarities. Young team, great centre forward, great counter attacking side, underestimated by the experts and a young upcoming manager.
Lets hope the outcome is the same! Lots of goals, great attacking football and a trophy and fourth place finish.
Although 81 and 82 were great seasons for obvious reasons, 76/77 is the stand out season in my life time, just for the sheer entertainment
76/77 is also my all-time favourite season .... but I'll reserve judgement on this lot right now. We lack a Sid Cowans i n the middle and the defensive solidity that we had back then.
But ask again in 2 months' time!
Sid Cowans was still a 17 year old rookie sub in 76/77. Didn't begin to establish himself till after the Cropley leg break the following season, & I don't think he was seen as the player he is now for a while longer than that. We may yet have another Sid coming through!
Westwood?
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With respect to both you and young Ashley, Westwood will never be another Gordon Cowans. At a time when the Press salivated over Bryan Robson's tenacity and drive and Glenn Hoddle's passing ability, Sid was a combination of the two, the best all round midfield player of his generation.
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Dare i say that we seem to be aping the team of MON's 3rd year
Fast, counter attacking play with exciting forward players
Bloody hell even PL jigs around like him when we score :o
I think too much is being made of our counter attacking. For a start, we can pass the ball around comfortably, there's next to no hoofing, we can be patient in our build ups and we'll adapt our tactics to whoever we're facing. I'm sure Lambert has more than Plan A, unlike the tactically clueless twat.
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3 up top, Gray, Little and Johnny Deehan were awesome but Sid, Croperly and Mortimer made the team tick imo. For those of you too young to have seen that team play you have my sympathies, they were fantastic at times.
I can see some likeness with today as in Benteke, Gabby and AW are exciting to watch but the midfield is lacking that cutting edge but I'm enjoying watching this team develop.
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With respect to both you and young Ashley, Westwood will never be another Gordon Cowans. At a time when the Press salivated over Bryan Robson's tenacity and drive and Glenn Hoddle's passing ability, Sid was a combination of the two, the best all round midfield player of his generation.
I agree.
Although I once told him he was a better player than Gazza, and he laughed at me and told me he wasn't fit to lace his boots!
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In 76/77 we destroyed teams. In 80/81 we consistently beat teams and were deserved champions. Coming on the back of 75/76 the following season was immense.
No comparison in which team was more successful. Just happen to think 76/77 was more exciting
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With respect to both you and young Ashley, Westwood will never be another Gordon Cowans. At a time when the Press salivated over Bryan Robson's tenacity and drive and Glenn Hoddle's passing ability, Sid was a combination of the two, the best all round midfield player of his generation.
I agree.
Although I once told him he was a better player than Gazza, and he laughed at me and told me he wasn't fit to lace his boots!
Sid hardly played in 1976-77 until the last month when the injuries piled up.
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I think it will be more a mix of 89/90 and 95/96. Probably less successful due to how the league is now but we'll surprise a lot of people, including some of our own fans.
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76 - 77 was the best football I have seen down the Villa, we should have won the league that season but the cups took there toll on us.
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Will be a very exciting season ahead - i expected a top 8 challenge but i have been surprised just how good we have looked so far - win our 2 home games and it will be an excellent start - this is just the beginning and the team will improve with experience of playing together .
The new signings have strengthened the squad and i think very good times are ahead.
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I think it will be more a mix of 89/90 and 95/96. Probably less successful due to how the league is now but we'll surprise a lot of people, including some of our own fans.
I said something similar on the post match thread. I loved both of those teams probably because of the way they almost appeared from nowhere, gave it a real go and surprised a lot of people. I think 2013/14 could pan out the same way.