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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: FrankyH on August 16, 2013, 07:24:39 PM

Title: One Show
Post by: FrankyH on August 16, 2013, 07:24:39 PM
One show are doing a piece on ex professional players who fall on hard times after they stop playing.Interviews with Warren Aspinall and Lee Hendrie , worth a watch on catchup/iplayer.
Title: Re: One Show
Post by: bertlambshank on August 16, 2013, 07:43:57 PM
One show are doing a piece on ex professional players who fall on hard times after they stop playing.Interviews with Warren Aspinall and Lee Hendrie , worth a watch on catchup/iplayer.
Is it a wankers special?
Title: Re: One Show
Post by: Ad@m on August 16, 2013, 07:55:05 PM
Does it count as falling on hard times if you were a multi millionaire at one point and proceeded to piss it all away by being a twat?
Title: Re: One Show
Post by: LeeB on August 16, 2013, 07:58:28 PM
Aspinall fell on hard times because he backed himself to score every time.
Title: Re: One Show
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on August 16, 2013, 08:00:28 PM
"Hard Times".
Bloody big book by Dickens.
Falling on that could make a nasty dent in your cravat!
Title: Re: One Show
Post by: FrankyH on August 16, 2013, 08:01:50 PM
They did ask Hendrie who's fault was it he ended up suicidal/broke ..etc I actually mouthed out loud "you , you wanker" He wasn't sure who's fault it was though !
Title: Re: One Show
Post by: eric woolban woolban on August 16, 2013, 08:23:47 PM
Probably was mentioned before but did anyone watch the footballer secret suicide program fronted by Clark Carlisle.

He interviewed Hendrie. To be fair Hendrie looked after his family by buying them houses, but then the property slump screwed him over.
Title: Re: One Show
Post by: silhillvilla on August 16, 2013, 08:41:18 PM
Probably was mentioned before but did anyone watch the footballer secret suicide program fronted by Clark Carlisle.

He interviewed Hendrie. To be fair Hendrie looked after his family by buying them houses, but then the property slump screwed him over.
Plus a divorce probably wiped out 60% of his wealth
Title: Re: One Show
Post by: Ad@m on August 16, 2013, 09:04:15 PM
Probably was mentioned before but did anyone watch the footballer secret suicide program fronted by Clark Carlisle.

He interviewed Hendrie. To be fair Hendrie looked after his family by buying them houses, but then the property slump screwed him over.

I assume that was Hendrie's take on things?

I find it hard to believe that someone earning £1m - £1.5m a year for over a decade can end up bankrupt due to bad luck alone.

Let's not portray him as some unlucky philanthropic family man.
Title: Re: One Show
Post by: darren woolley on August 16, 2013, 09:21:19 PM
I watched it just goes to show without the right advice about investments you can feck your life up.
Title: Re: One Show
Post by: Jeff Green on August 16, 2013, 09:25:17 PM
This article offers some insights: http://tinyurl.com/6va5n2h
Title: Re: One Show
Post by: bertlambshank on August 16, 2013, 09:30:12 PM
I watched it just goes to show without the right advice about investments you can feck your life up.
It helps if your not a prick as well.
Title: Re: One Show
Post by: Louzie0 on August 16, 2013, 09:32:18 PM
This article offers some insights: http://tinyurl.com/6va5n2h

Well you know it kind of does and doesn't. 

I'm sort of glad that I don't have these financial problems.
Title: Re: One Show
Post by: FrankyH on August 16, 2013, 09:34:16 PM
"It's everyone Else's fault" syndrome. I'd have a little more respect if people like Hendrie took a bit of responsibility for their own actions.There is only a handful of ex Villa players I really dislike , and he is one of them.
Title: Re: One Show
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 16, 2013, 09:35:10 PM
Probably was mentioned before but did anyone watch the footballer secret suicide program fronted by Clark Carlisle.

He interviewed Hendrie. To be fair Hendrie looked after his family by buying them houses, but then the property slump screwed him over.

He said the houses he bought for his family were repossessed.

I found myself thinking that, given that they were mortgaged or in his name (for them to have been snatched back), that's a pretty liberal definition of "buying" someone a house.
Title: Re: One Show
Post by: Lizz on August 16, 2013, 09:54:02 PM
Probably was mentioned before but did anyone watch the footballer secret suicide program fronted by Clark Carlisle.

He interviewed Hendrie. To be fair Hendrie looked after his family by buying them houses, but then the property slump screwed him over.

I'm probably spectacularly missing something here, but I've always wondered in situations like this why the relatives can't/don't contribute to their own housing costs. I remember reading an interview with Heather McCartney Mills when she said something about having to work to pay for her siblings' houses. Why???? Don't get me wrong, if one of my siblings offered to buy me property I'd happily accept.
Title: Re: One Show
Post by: silhillvilla on August 16, 2013, 09:55:29 PM
"It's everyone Else's fault" syndrome. I'd have a little more respect if people like Hendrie took a bit of responsibility for their own actions.There is only a handful of ex Villa players I really dislike , and he is one of them.
Who are the others ? Hodge , Unsworth, Downing ?
Title: Re: One Show
Post by: rob_bridge on August 16, 2013, 09:57:12 PM
Probably was mentioned before but did anyone watch the footballer secret suicide program fronted by Clark Carlisle.

He interviewed Hendrie. To be fair Hendrie looked after his family by buying them houses, but then the property slump screwed him over.

He said the houses he bought for his family were repossessed.

I found myself thinking that, given that they were mortgaged or in his name (for them to have been snatched back), that's a pretty liberal definition of "buying" someone a house.

Nobody has bought a house if it has a mortgage, they are in the process of buying one - normally over 20+ years.
Title: Re: One Show
Post by: Leighton on August 17, 2013, 12:07:40 AM
There is only a handful of ex Villa players I really dislike , and he is one of them.

My feelings exactly. I despise him. It really pisses me off when he is introduced as a "Villa legend" during a halftime pitch presentation.
Title: Re: One Show
Post by: LeeB on August 17, 2013, 10:16:26 AM
Why would you 'despise' him, unless you we're extremely petty and jealous?

He played for us for 10 years, when we were halfway decent, and on occasion he let himself down but in honesty no worse than anyone I know (including me) as a young man.

I don't get the bitterness.
Title: Re: One Show
Post by: Chris Smith on August 17, 2013, 10:27:11 AM
I agree, Lee. He was a bit stupid at times but he's not alone in that, if you throw huge amounts of money and adulation at young men it's not a surprise if some of them fuck up occasionally. 
Title: Re: One Show
Post by: Chris Smith on August 17, 2013, 10:30:39 AM
Probably was mentioned before but did anyone watch the footballer secret suicide program fronted by Clark Carlisle.

He interviewed Hendrie. To be fair Hendrie looked after his family by buying them houses, but then the property slump screwed him over.

He said the houses he bought for his family were repossessed.

I found myself thinking that, given that they were mortgaged or in his name (for them to have been snatched back), that's a pretty liberal definition of "buying" someone a house.

Nobody has bought a house if it has a mortgage, they are in the process of buying one - normally over 20+ years.

That's not really true. You've bought the house, you have just borrowed the money to do it. If you take your argument then everything bought on a credit card, or even many of our season tickets, belong to somebody else.
Title: Re: One Show
Post by: KevinGage on August 17, 2013, 10:35:56 AM
He was an arse, but for a time he was one of our better players.  From his debut in 97 up until the early noughties and again for a brief period in 2005.

I'd find it hard to feel sorry for him, as most of his problems are self inflicted.  Wouldn't particularly wish him any ill will either, mind. 
Title: Re: One Show
Post by: kipeye on August 17, 2013, 11:32:12 AM
Why would you 'despise' him, unless you we're extremely petty and jealous?

He played for us for 10 years, when we were halfway decent, and on occasion he let himself down but in honesty no worse than anyone I know (including me) as a young man.

I don't get the bitterness.
This.
Title: Re: One Show
Post by: Pete3206 on August 17, 2013, 11:43:48 AM
There is only a handful of ex Villa players I really dislike , and he is one of them.

My feelings exactly. I despise him. It really pisses me off when he is introduced as a "Villa legend" during a halftime pitch presentation.

Players are are always introduced as 'legends' aren't they?.

Jack couldn't really build someone up by saying "Please welcome a player who was at Villa for a good number of years, had more than a few good games, before pissing all his money away.......Leeeeeee Hendrieeee!!!!"
Title: Re: One Show
Post by: damon loves JT on August 17, 2013, 12:29:55 PM
It would be bloody brilliant though.
Title: Re: One Show
Post by: Leighton on August 17, 2013, 01:54:30 PM
I despise him because I think he is a major prick. Jealous of him? Damn right, to have had his talent and wasted it by being a petulant little git, with a terrible attitude and making more money than I could dream of, then throwing it all away and now expecting sympathy. He's a prick. I despise him.
Title: Re: One Show
Post by: danlanza on August 17, 2013, 02:00:22 PM
Strong words those are.
Title: Re: One Show
Post by: Leighton on August 17, 2013, 02:04:42 PM
Few Villa related things rattle my cage more than him.
Title: Re: One Show
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 17, 2013, 02:19:02 PM
Probably was mentioned before but did anyone watch the footballer secret suicide program fronted by Clark Carlisle.

He interviewed Hendrie. To be fair Hendrie looked after his family by buying them houses, but then the property slump screwed him over.

He said the houses he bought for his family were repossessed.

I found myself thinking that, given that they were mortgaged or in his name (for them to have been snatched back), that's a pretty liberal definition of "buying" someone a house.

Nobody has bought a house if it has a mortgage, they are in the process of buying one - normally over 20+ years.

That's not really true. You've bought the house, you have just borrowed the money to do it. If you take your argument then everything bought on a credit card, or even many of our season tickets, belong to somebody else.

Strictly speaking, don't the building society hold the deeds until the mortgage is paid? And it's a bit different from credit cards because the loan to buy the house is secured - against the house itself.

Anyway, to get back to what Rob said, I know that's how mortgages work, what I was saying is that, as the mortgage will have been in his own name (for them to get repossessed), strictly speaking, they were living in houses he had bought for himself, rather than ones he'd paid a lump of cash for and given to them.
Title: Re: One Show
Post by: eamonn on August 17, 2013, 04:23:42 PM
Strong words those are.

He's not fickle, he just doesn't like him. Maybe Leighton's banner was for Lee as much as Dolly.
Title: Re: One Show
Post by: Diablo on August 17, 2013, 05:45:37 PM
Pretty amazed by the bitterness and lack of empathy shown to not only a fellow being but one who did relatively well for Villa (and also someone who always seemed to enjoy playing for us). I say amazed, I suppose I mean saddened. I ignored Lee Hendrie's  permanent tan and stupid sports cars at the time he used to pull out the ground after the match. I always thought he tried his best in a Villa shirt and certainly wouldn't wish him ill and certainly not revel in his misfortune. I always saw him more as a product of the changing face of modern football and there being too much money given to someone too young. He may have been arrogant and crass although I've never seen it myself or spoke to him personally. He's definitely been in some pretty dark places - I wish him all the best in the future and hope he's learnt some valuable lessons. UTV!
Title: Re: One Show
Post by: eamonn on August 17, 2013, 06:43:14 PM
Well said, Devil.
Title: Re: One Show
Post by: not3bad on August 17, 2013, 06:55:30 PM
Good post Diablo.
Title: Re: One Show
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 17, 2013, 08:27:21 PM
Good post Diablo. I met Lee once as he was friends with a good friend of mine, seemed a decent lad. Maybe he was a bit of a cock at times, but imagine how you were in your early twenties and then imagine having a shitload of money. I bet most of us would have been a bit of a cock at times.
Title: Re: One Show
Post by: bertlambshank on August 17, 2013, 08:35:43 PM
Good post Diablo. I met Lee once as he was friends with a good friend of mine, seemed a decent lad. Maybe he was a bit of a cock at times, but imagine how you were in your early twenties and then imagine having a shitload of money. I bet most of us would have been a bit of a cock at times.
I have met Lee a few times on a personal and business level including in the last 6 months.Calling him a wanker doesn't even come close.
Title: Re: One Show
Post by: LeeB on August 17, 2013, 10:07:03 PM
Good post Diablo. I met Lee once as he was friends with a good friend of mine, seemed a decent lad. Maybe he was a bit of a cock at times, but imagine how you were in your early twenties and then imagine having a shitload of money. I bet most of us would have been a bit of a cock at times.
I have met Lee a few times on a personal and business level including in the last 6 months.Calling him a wanker doesn't even come close.

Well I knew him from school, and have met him a few times since, and I'd say exactly the opposite.
Title: Re: One Show
Post by: Gerrin on August 18, 2013, 06:51:56 AM
They did ask Hendrie who's fault was it he ended up suicidal/broke ..etc I actually mouthed out loud "you , you wanker" He wasn't sure who's fault it was though !

That really made me laugh, thanks.
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