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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Dave Clark Five on August 14, 2013, 12:49:10 PM
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GUESS THE CROWD SEASON 2013 - 2014
Rules:
First guess only counts. Any edited guesses will render the post null and void (a maximum of one point to be awarded). No further entries from that poster will be accepted in that thread.
No guesses after kick off.
10 points - exactly correct (posted MORE than 7 days prior to kick off time)
7 points - exactly correct (posted LESS than, OR EQUAL TO, 7 days prior to kick off time)
6 points - within 10
5 points - within 50
4 points - within 100
3 points - within 500
2 points - within 1000
1 point - bonus for entering and above 1000 out
Anyone is welcome to join and will go into Division Three.
Teams that are on 0 points after 3 games will be removed from the league.
Teams that are on 3 or less points after 6 games will be removed from the league.
Divisions will be adjusted accordingly when teams are removed. Division 1 and 2 will always have 22 teams in each.
No new entries after the season has started but anyone can enter the cup competitions.
HONOURS BOARD
2007 - 2008
League Champion - PENDINE VILLA
2008-2009
Division 1 - Joint Champions - GOALPOSTS4JUMPERS AND ROGFROMB6
Division 2 - Champions - CHARLIE8182
Division 3 - Joint Champions - ARSEY AND EAMONN
Division 4 Champions - MJLIONS
GTC Cup
Winner - VILLAJK
Runner-up - AV82EC
GTC 'Claret and Blue Wedding' League Cup -
Winner - PANTS
Runner-up - GOALPOSTS4JUMPERS
2009 - 2010
GTC 'Claret and Blue Wedding' League Cup -
Winner - GRANDE PABLO
Runner-up - FERGAL
GTC Cup
Winner - JD
Runner-up - COLOMBIAN VILLAIN
Division One Champions - GOALPOSTS4JUMPERS
Division Two Champions - IANB
Division Three Champions - CDVILLAFAN
Division Four Champions - ADS
2010 - 2011
GTC Cup
Winner - GOALPOSTS4JUMPERS
Runner-up - CDVILLAFAN
GTC League Cup -
Winner - GRANDE PABLO
Runner-up - CDVILLAFAN
Division One Champions - CHARLIE 8182
Division Two Champions - ALEXALEXCROPLEY
Division Three Champions - USAV
2011 - 2012
GTC FA Cup
Winner - BC54 VFC
Runner-up - ROTTERDAM
GTC League Cup -
Winner - DAZ VILLAIN
Runner-up - WALMLEY_VILLA
Division One Champions - WALMLEY_VILLA
Division One Runners-Up - DAZ VILLAIN
Division Two Champions - FRANK
Division Two Runners-Up - NICO 2708
Division Three Champions - WOODY 4866
Division Three Runners-Up - LOU'ZIE0
2012 - 2013 SEASON
GTC FA Cup
Winner - LAMBSTEWBERT
Runner-Up - ADVILLAFAN
GTC League Cup
Winner - LAMBSTEWBERT
Runner-up - EXETER77
Division One Champions - LENNY THE KAD
Division One Runners- Up - DAVE CLARK FIVE
Division Two Champions - POOLIGAN
Division Two Runners- Up - SOMEC
Division Three Champions - PGW
Division Three Runners - Up - IRISH VILLAIN
Charity Shield
Winner - LONDON VILLAN
Runner-Up - LENNY THE KAD
DIVISION ONE
CHARLIE 8182
DAVE CLARK FIVE
DAZVILLAIN
FRANK
GOALPOSTS4JUMPERS
KNOWSLEYVILLAIN
LAMBSTEWBERT
LEGION
LENNYTHEKAD
LONDON VILLAN
MJLIONS
NICO2708
PLUMBUTT COOPER
POOLIGAN
ROTTERDAM
SASHA'S GRANDAD
SISTER OF TOP CAT
SOMEC
TONY D
USAV
VILLAJK
WALMLEY_VILLA
DIVISION TWO
ANDY ASTON
ANDY_LOCHHEAD_IN_THE_AIR
BENESS
BERTLAMBSHANK
BREN_D
DARREN WOOLLEY
DAVE VILLAN
EAMONN
GRANDE PABLO
IRISH VILLAIN
JB1811
JIMMY GREEN
LOU'ZIE0
PETERWITHESSHIN
PGW
QBVILLA
REUBEN
ROCKET REDUCER NO. 62
RUDY LAMBERT
SIMON WARD
TOP CAT
TRICKY DICKY
DIVISION THREE
ADS
BELGIUMBRUMMIE
BERNEBOY
CDBULLYWEEFAN
CHIPSTICKS
DANLANZA
DBTW
EXETER 77
FLYBO
GJH
GREENWICHVILLA
HAVEN CHEESE
JONBOY
LEVICO
LUKE25
MORTIMER'S BEAR
PETE3206
PETER W
SILHILL VILLA
THE LAUGHING POLICEMAN
TIMBERT VILLA
VANCOUVERLION
WOMBAT
WOODY4866
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I can't believe I am in Division Three. The shame of it. I need to employ a new, vigorous manager who builds a successful team over time using youngsters.
I just hope I don't get relegated to 'The Conference'.
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I've placed my predictions in the appropriate thread, can you please include me. Thanks in advance.
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I've placed my predictions in the appropriate thread, can you please include me. Thanks in advance.
You will be in, Dave. I will publish the tables after the first game.
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Thanks DC5, appreciate that.
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Just a reminder:
Anyone is welcome to join and will go into Division Three.
Teams that are on 0 points after 3 games will be removed from the league.
Teams that are on 3 or less points after 6 games will be removed from the league.
Divisions will be adjusted accordingly when teams are removed. Division 1 and 2 will always have 22 teams in each.
No new entries after the season has started but anyone can enter the cup competitions. This means that you have to put a guess in for the Liverpool match.
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Placed mine in the thread too dc5 - always done the prediction league but am delighted to join this too - i take it that its home games only?
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Placed mine in the thread too dc5 - always done the prediction league but am delighted to join this too - i take it that its home games only?
Home games in the league but we do a League Cup and FA Cup that use away games.
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When will the league tables be revealed please?
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The tables mean nothing at this early stage . Not worth looking at until at least 5 games in (unless you're top of the league).
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When will the league tables be revealed please?
Maybe today, depending on what time I have.
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TABLES AFTER THE LIVERPOOL GAME
DIVISION ONE
CHARLIE 8182 4
FRANK 4
LONDON VILLAN 4
MJLIONS 4
DAVE CLARK FIVE 3
KNOWSLEYVILLAIN 3
LAMBSTEWBERT 3
NICO2708 3
SISTER OF TOP CAT 3
SOMEC 3
USAV 3
VILLAJK 3
WALMLEY_VILLA 3
DAZVILLAIN 2
LENNYTHEKAD 2
POOLIGAN 2
SASHA'S GRANDAD 2
TONY D 2
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LEGION 1
PLUMBUTT COOPER 1
ROTTERDAM 1
GOALPOSTS4JUMPERS 0
DIVISION TWO
LOU'ZIE0 4
SIMON WARD 4
BENESS 3
BERTLAMBSHANK 3
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BREN_D 3
DARREN WOOLLEY 3
DAVE VILLAN 3
EAMONN 3
GRANDE PABLO 3
RUDY LAMBERT 3
TRICKY DICKY 3
ANDY ASTON 2
JIMMY GREEN 2
PGW 2
TOP CAT 2
ANDY_LOCHHEAD_IN_THE_AIR 1
IRISH VILLAIN 1
PETERWITHESSHIN 1
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QBVILLA 1
REUBEN 1
ROCKET REDUCER NO. 62 1
JB1811 0
DIVISION THREE
VANCOUVERLION 6
LATZ 5
ADS 4
GOLDIE.7 3
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JOHNBOY 3
MEANWOOD VILLA 3
TONY ERDINGTON 3
BERNEBOY 2
EASTIE 2
MORTIMER'S BEAR 2
PETER W 2
SILHILL VILLA 2
ADVILLAFAN 1
CDBULLYWEEFAN 1
DAVE SHELLEY 1
DR BUTLER 1
EXETER 77 1
GARYSHAWSKNEE 1
OLAFTAB 1
TIMBERT VILLA 1
BELGIUMBRUMMIE 0
CHIPSTICKS 0
DANLANZA 0
DBTW 0
FLYBO 0
GJH 0
GREENWICHVILLA 0
HAVEN CHEESE 0
JONBOY 0
LEVICO 0
LUKE25 0
PETE3206 0
THE LAUGHING POLICEMAN 0
WOMBAT 0
WOODY4866 0
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TABLES AFTER THE ROTHERHAM GAME
DIVISION ONE
FRANK 7
KNOWSLEYVILLAIN 6
WALMLEY_VILLA 6
CHARLIE 8182 5
LONDON VILLAN 5
MJLIONS 5
POOLIGAN 5
SOMEC 5
DAVE CLARK FIVE 4
LAMBSTEWBERT 4
NICO2708 4
SASHA'S GRANDAD 4
SISTER OF TOP CAT 4
USAV 4
VILLAJK 4
LENNYTHEKAD 3
TONY D 3
DAZVILLAIN 2
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LEGION 2
PLUMBUTT COOPER 2
ROTTERDAM 2
GOALPOSTS4JUMPERS 0
DIVISION TWO
LOU'ZIE0 8
DARREN WOOLLEY 6
EAMONN 6
SIMON WARD 5
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ANDY_LOCHHEAD_IN_THE_AIR 4
BENESS 4
BREN_D 4
GRANDE PABLO 4
PETERWITHESSHIN 4
QBVILLA 4
RUDY LAMBERT 4
TRICKY DICKY 4
BERTLAMBSHANK 3
DAVE VILLAN 3
JIMMY GREEN 3
PGW 3
TOP CAT 3
ANDY ASTON 2
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IRISH VILLAIN 2
REUBEN 2
ROCKET REDUCER NO. 62 2
JB1811 0
DIVISION THREE
LATZ 8
EASTIE 7
VANCOUVERLION 7
MEANWOOD VILLA 6
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ADS 5
CDBULLYWEEFAN 4
GOLDIE.7 4
JOHNBOY 4
OLAFTAB 4
EXETER 77 3
MORTIMER'S BEAR 3
PETER W 3
SILHILL VILLA 3
TONY ERDINGTON 3
ADVILLAFAN 2
BERNEBOY 2
DAVE SHELLEY 2
DR BUTLER 2
GARYSHAWSKNEE 2
LEVICO 2
TIMBERT VILLA 2
SIR LORD BALTIMORE 1
BELGIUMBRUMMIE 0
CHIPSTICKS 0
DANLANZA 0
DBTW 0
FLYBO 0
GJH 0
GREENWICHVILLA 0
HAVEN CHEESE 0
JONBOY 0
LUKE25 0
PETE3206 0
THE LAUGHING POLICEMAN 0
WOMBAT 0
WOODY4866 0
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The league will be locked after the Newcastle game. No new teams can join after then unless we get quite a few dropping out.
Remember, you need at least three points from the first six games to stay in the league.
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Thanks for doing this dc5 - i am in the promotion zone and delighted :)
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I am stunned. This can't last!
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Any idea on when the table will be updated DC5. Thanks
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Any idea on when the table will be updated DC5. Thanks
Shortly. Just getting the celebrities together for the GTC League Cup draw.
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The league is now locked to new entrants but anyone can join in with the cups (League Cup will be locked in about 10 minutes).
Teams with less than three points after the first six games will be removed from the league.
Newcastle was game 3. This may result in some promotions taking place as Divs 1 and 2 will always have 22 teams in them.
TABLES AFTER THE NEWCASTLE GAME
DIVISION ONE
KNOWSLEYVILLAIN 9
LONDON VILLAN 9
WALMLEY_VILLA 9
FRANK 8
MJLIONS 8
USAV 8
CHARLIE 8182 7
DAVE CLARK FIVE 7
SOMEC 7
NICO2708 6
POOLIGAN 6
SASHA'S GRANDAD 6
LAMBSTEWBERT 5
LENNYTHEKAD 5
SISTER OF TOP CAT 5
VILLAJK 5
TONY D 4
LEGION 3
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PLUMBUTT COOPER 3
ROTTERDAM 3
DAZVILLAIN 2
GOALPOSTS4JUMPERS 0
DIVISION TWO
LOU'ZIE0 9
DARREN WOOLLEY 8
EAMONN 8
ANDY_LOCHHEAD_IN_THE_AIR 7
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QBVILLA 7
BERTLAMBSHANK 6
PETERWITHESSHIN 6
SIMON WARD 6
ANDY ASTON 5
BENESS 5
BREN_D 5
GRANDE PABLO 5
PGW 5
ROCKET REDUCER NO. 62 5
RUDY LAMBERT 5
TRICKY DICKY 5
DAVE VILLAN 4
JIMMY GREEN 4
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TOP CAT 4
IRISH VILLAIN 3
REUBEN 3
JB1811 0
DIVISION THREE
EASTIE 8
GOLDIE.7 8
LATZ 8
MORTIMER'S BEAR 8
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VANCOUVERLION 8
JOHNBOY 7
MEANWOOD VILLA 7
ADS 6
CDBULLYWEEFAN 5
PETER W 5
TONY ERDINGTON 5
EXETER 77 4
OLAFTAB 4
SILHILL VILLA 4
ADVILLAFAN 3
BERNEBOY 3
DAVE SHELLEY 3
LEVICO 3
TIMBERT VILLA 3
WESTLEY ARMS AV 3
CYPRUS VILLAIN 2
DR BUTLER 2
GARYSHAWSKNEE 2
IRISH COCKNEY 2
CHIPSTICKS 1
DANLANZA 1
DESONTHEHOLTE 1
FLYBO 1
FRANKMOSSWASMYUNCLE 1
SIR LORD BALTIMORE 1
BELGIUMBRUMMIE 0
DBTW 0
GJH 0
GREENWICHVILLA 0
HAVEN CHEESE 0
JONBOY 0
LUKE25 0
PETE3206 0
THE LAUGHING POLICEMAN 0
WOMBAT 0
WOODY4866 0
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The league is now locked to new entrants but anyone can join in with the cups (League Cup will be locked in about 10 minutes).
Teams with less than three points after the first six games will be removed from the league.
Tottenham was game 4. This may result in some promotions taking place as Divs 1 and 2 will always have 22 teams in them.
TABLES AFTER THE TOTTENHAM GAME
DIVISION ONE
LONDON VILLAN 10
WALMLEY_VILLA 10
FRANK 9
KNOWSLEYVILLAIN 9
MJLIONS 9
CHARLIE 8182 8
DAVE CLARK FIVE 8
SOMEC 8
USAV 8
NICO2708 7
POOLIGAN 7
SASHA'S GRANDAD 7
LAMBSTEWBERT 6
LENNYTHEKAD 6
SISTER OF TOP CAT 6
VILLAJK 6
TONY D 5
LEGION 4
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PLUMBUTT COOPER 4
ROTTERDAM 4
DAZVILLAIN 3
GOALPOSTS4JUMPERS 0
DIVISION TWO
LOU'ZIE0 10
DARREN WOOLLEY 9
EAMONN 9
ANDY_LOCHHEAD_IN_THE_AIR 8
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QBVILLA 8
BERTLAMBSHANK 7
PETERWITHESSHIN 7
SIMON WARD 7
BENESS 6
BREN_D 6
GRANDE PABLO 6
PGW 6
ROCKET REDUCER NO. 62 6
TRICKY DICKY 6
ANDY ASTON 5
DAVE VILLAN 5
JIMMY GREEN 5
RUDY LAMBERT 5
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TOP CAT 5
IRISH VILLAIN 4
REUBEN 3
JB1811 0
DIVISION THREE
EASTIE 9
GOLDIE.7 9
VANCOUVERLION 9
JOHNBOY 8
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LATZ 8
MEANWOOD VILLA 8
MORTIMER'S BEAR 8
ADS 7
CDBULLYWEEFAN 6
PETER W 6
EXETER 77 5
OLAFTAB 5
TONY ERDINGTON 5
ADVILLAFAN 4
BERNEBOY 4
DAVE SHELLEY 4
LEVICO 4
SILHILL VILLA 4
TIMBERT VILLA 4
WESTLEY ARMS AV 3
CYPRUS VILLAIN 2
DR BUTLER 2
GARYSHAWSKNEE 2
IRISH COCKNEY 2
CHIPSTICKS 1
DANLANZA 1
DESONTHEHOLTE 1
FLYBO 1
FRANKMOSSWASMYUNCLE 1
SIR LORD BALTIMORE 1
BELGIUMBRUMMIE 0
DBTW 0
GJH 0
GREENWICHVILLA 0
HAVEN CHEESE 0
JONBOY 0
LUKE25 0
PETE3206 0
THE LAUGHING POLICEMAN 0
WOMBAT 0
WOODY4866 0
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The league is now locked to new entrants but anyone can join in with the cups (League Cup will be locked in about 10 minutes).
Teams with less than three points after the first six games will be removed from the league.
Man City was game 5. This may result in some promotions taking place as Divs 1 and 2 will always have 22 teams in them.
TABLES AFTER THE MAN CITY GAME
DIVISION ONE
LONDON VILLAN 11
WALMLEY_VILLA 11
FRANK 10
KNOWSLEYVILLAIN 10
MJLIONS 10
CHARLIE 8182 9
DAVE CLARK FIVE 9
SOMEC 9
USAV 9
NICO2708 8
POOLIGAN 8
SASHA'S GRANDAD 8
LAMBSTEWBERT 7
LENNYTHEKAD 7
SISTER OF TOP CAT 7
VILLAJK 7
TONY D 6
LEGION 5
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PLUMBUTT COOPER 5
ROTTERDAM 5
DAZVILLAIN 4
GOALPOSTS4JUMPERS 0
DIVISION TWO
LOU'ZIE0 11
DARREN WOOLLEY 10
EAMONN 10
ANDY_LOCHHEAD_IN_THE_AIR 9
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QBVILLA 9
BERTLAMBSHANK 8
PETERWITHESSHIN 8
SIMON WARD 8
BENESS 7
BREN_D 7
GRANDE PABLO 7
PGW 7
ROCKET REDUCER NO. 62 7
TRICKY DICKY 7
DAVE VILLAN 6
JIMMY GREEN 6
RUDY LAMBERT 6
TOP CAT 6
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ANDY ASTON 5
IRISH VILLAIN 5
REUBEN 3
JB1811 0
DIVISION THREE
EASTIE 10
GOLDIE.7 10
VANCOUVERLION 10
JOHNBOY 9
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MEANWOOD VILLA 9
MORTIMER'S BEAR 9
ADS 8
LATZ 8
CDBULLYWEEFAN 7
PETER W 7
EXETER 77 6
OLAFTAB 6
ADVILLAFAN 5
BERNEBOY 5
DAVE SHELLEY 5
LEVICO 5
SILHILL VILLA 5
TIMBERT VILLA 5
TONY ERDINGTON 5
WESTLEY ARMS AV 3
CYPRUS VILLAIN 2
DR BUTLER 2
GARYSHAWSKNEE 2
IRISH COCKNEY 2
CHIPSTICKS 1
DANLANZA 1
DESONTHEHOLTE 1
FLYBO 1
FRANKMOSSWASMYUNCLE 1
SIR LORD BALTIMORE 1
BELGIUMBRUMMIE 0
DBTW 0
GJH 0
GREENWICHVILLA 0
HAVEN CHEESE 0
JONBOY 0
LUKE25 0
PETE3206 0
THE LAUGHING POLICEMAN 0
WOMBAT 0
WOODY4866 0
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Some promotions and relegations have taken place in accordance with the rules as posted in the promotion / relegation thread.
In the event of any in Division 4 not securing at least 6 points after 12 matches, they will be removed from the league and the remainder will be merged back into Division 3.
Tottenham (League) was game 6.
At the moment, teams on equal points are sorted on alphabetical order. However, when the season ends, promotion and relegation issues will be determined by the closest guess for the last game, where teams are level.
TABLES AFTER THE TOTTENHAM (LEAGUE) GAME.
DIVISION ONE
LONDON VILLAN 14
CHARLIE 8182 13
QBVILLA 13
SASHA'S GRANDAD 13
WALMLEY_VILLA 13
FRANK 12
MJLIONS 11
DAVE CLARK FIVE 10
KNOWSLEYVILLAIN 10
POOLIGAN 10
SOMEC 10
USAV 10
VILLAJK 10
NICO2708 9
SISTER OF TOP CAT 9
LAMBSTEWBERT 8
LENNYTHEKAD 8
ROTTERDAM 8
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TONY D 8
DAZVILLAIN 7
LEGION 7
PLUMBUTT COOPER 7
DIVISION TWO
MEANWOOD VILLA 13
MORTIMER'S BEAR 13
LOU'ZIE0 12
ANDY_LOCHHEAD_IN_THE_AIR 11
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BERTLAMBSHANK 11
DARREN WOOLLEY 11
EAMONN 11
BREN_D 9
GRANDE PABLO 9
PETERWITHESSHIN 9
SIMON WARD 9
BENESS 8
PGW 8
ROCKET REDUCER NO. 62 8
TRICKY DICKY 8
DAVE VILLAN 7
JIMMY GREEN 7
RUDY LAMBERT 7
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TOP CAT 7
IRISH VILLAIN 6
ANDY ASTON 5
REUBEN 4
DIVISION THREE
VANCOUVERLION 13
GOLDIE.7 12
EASTIE 11
JOHNBOY 11
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CDBULLYWEEFAN 10
ADS 9
LATZ 8
OLAFTAB 8
PETER W 8
SILHILL VILLA 8
ADVILLAFAN 7
EXETER 77 7
BERNEBOY 6
DAVE SHELLEY 6
TIMBERT VILLA 6
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LEVICO 5
TONY ERDINGTON 5
CHIPSTICKS 4
WESTLEY ARMS AV 3
DIVISION FOUR
CYPRUS VILLAIN 2
DR BUTLER 2
GARYSHAWSKNEE 2
IRISH COCKNEY 2
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DANLANZA 1
DESONTHEHOLTE 1
FLYBO 1
FRANKMOSSWASMYUNCLE 1
SIR LORD BALTIMORE 1
BELGIUMBRUMMIE 0
DBTW 0
GJH 0
GOALPOSTS4JUMPERS 0
GREENWICHVILLA 0
HAVEN CHEESE 0
JB1811 0
JONBOY 0
LUKE25 0
PETE3206 0
THE LAUGHING POLICEMAN 0
WOMBAT 0
WOODY4866 0
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I'll need to do some dealing in the January window ....
Anybody got a quid?
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Hovering just above the relegation zone. This has a familiar ring to it.
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I would be thrilled to win promotion in my 1st season - although I may need to rest some players for the cup game against the mighty louzie
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Just as a matter of interest, the ground capacity is 42682 this season, according to the Premier League Handbook, which I have posted a link to on Heroes Discussion.
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Probably will only be a full house against Man U if their glory hunters haven't switched clubs yet.
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Alphabetically catapulted three places into a promotion spot at present.
May change my name to "Aardvark_Lochhead_in_the_air" when we get to the business end of the season.
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I'm a bit like Villa, mid-table ish, but closer to the drop zone than promotion and definitely a bit nervous.
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Any idea when the everton match will be updated?
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Alphabetically catapulted three places into a promotion spot at present.
May change my name to "Aardvark_Lochhead_in_the_air" when we get to the business end of the season.
Got to be worth a 'like' has that!
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In the event of any teams in Division 4 not securing at least 6 points after 12 matches, they will be removed from the league and the remainder will be merged back into Division 3.
Everton was game 7.
At the moment, teams on equal points are sorted on alphabetical order. However, when the season ends, promotion and relegation issues will be determined by the closest guess for the last game, where teams are level.
TABLES AFTER THE EVERTON GAME.
DIVISION ONE
LONDON VILLAN 17
QBVILLA 17
CHARLIE 8182 15
SASHA'S GRANDAD 14
WALMLEY_VILLA 14
FRANK 13
MJLIONS 13
POOLIGAN 13
NICO2708 12
SOMEC 12
VILLAJK 12
DAVE CLARK FIVE 11
LENNYTHEKAD 11
ROTTERDAM 11
SISTER OF TOP CAT 11
USAV 11
DAZVILLAIN 10
KNOWSLEYVILLAIN 10
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LAMBSTEWBERT 9
LEGION 9
PLUMBUTT COOPER 8
TONY D 8
DIVISION TWO
MEANWOOD VILLA 16
LOU'ZIE0 15
ANDY_LOCHHEAD_IN_THE_AIR 14
EAMONN 14
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MORTIMER'S BEAR 14
DARREN WOOLLEY 13
SIMON WARD 13
BERTLAMBSHANK 12
PGW 11
BREN_D 10
DAVE VILLAN 10
GRANDE PABLO 10
PETERWITHESSHIN 10
TRICKY DICKY 10
BENESS 9
JIMMY GREEN 9
TOP CAT 9
ROCKET REDUCER NO. 62 8
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ANDY ASTON 7
IRISH VILLAIN 7
RUDY LAMBERT 7
REUBEN 4
DIVISION THREE
JOHNBOY 16
VANCOUVERLION 14
GOLDIE.7 13
EASTIE 12
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CDBULLYWEEFAN 11
OLAFTAB 11
ADS 10
PETER W 10
SILHILL VILLA 10
ADVILLAFAN 8
LATZ 8
BERNEBOY 7
CHIPSTICKS 7
DAVE SHELLEY 7
EXETER 77 7
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TIMBERT VILLA 7
LEVICO 5
TONY ERDINGTON 5
WESTLEY ARMS AV 3
DIVISION FOUR
CYPRUS VILLAIN 2
DR BUTLER 2
GARYSHAWSKNEE 2
IRISH COCKNEY 2
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DANLANZA 1
DESONTHEHOLTE 1
FLYBO 1
FRANKMOSSWASMYUNCLE 1
SIR LORD BALTIMORE 1
BELGIUMBRUMMIE 0
DBTW 0
GJH 0
GOALPOSTS4JUMPERS 0
GREENWICHVILLA 0
HAVEN CHEESE 0
JB1811 0
JONBOY 0
LUKE25 0
PETE3206 0
THE LAUGHING POLICEMAN 0
WOMBAT 0
WOODY4866 0
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May I ask when the Cardiff game will be added to the tables please ?
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In the event of any teams in Division 4 not securing at least 6 points after 12 matches, they will be removed from the league and the remainder will be merged back into Division 3.
Cardiff was game 8.
At the moment, teams on equal points are sorted on alphabetical order. However, when the season ends, promotion and relegation issues will be determined by the closest guess for the last game, where teams are level.
TABLES AFTER THE CARDIFF GAME.
DIVISION ONE
QBVILLA 19
LONDON VILLAN 18
CHARLIE 8182 16
SASHA'S GRANDAD 15
WALMLEY_VILLA 15
FRANK 14
MJLIONS 14
NICO2708 14
POOLIGAN 14
SOMEC 13
VILLAJK 13
DAVE CLARK FIVE 12
LENNYTHEKAD 12
ROTTERDAM 12
SISTER OF TOP CAT 12
USAV 12
DAZVILLAIN 11
KNOWSLEYVILLAIN 11
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LAMBSTEWBERT 10
LEGION 10
PLUMBUTT COOPER 9
TONY D 9
DIVISION TWO
LOU'ZIE0 17
MEANWOOD VILLA 17
ANDY_LOCHHEAD_IN_THE_AIR 15
BERTLAMBSHANK 15
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EAMONN 15
MORTIMER'S BEAR 15
DARREN WOOLLEY 14
SIMON WARD 14
DAVE VILLAN 12
PGW 12
BREN_D 11
GRANDE PABLO 11
PETERWITHESSHIN 11
TRICKY DICKY 11
BENESS 10
JIMMY GREEN 10
TOP CAT 10
ROCKET REDUCER NO. 62 9
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ANDY ASTON 8
IRISH VILLAIN 8
RUDY LAMBERT 8
REUBEN 4
DIVISION THREE
JOHNBOY 18
VANCOUVERLION 15
EASTIE 13
GOLDIE.7 13
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CDBULLYWEEFAN 12
OLAFTAB 12
ADS 11
PETER W 11
SILHILL VILLA 11
ADVILLAFAN 9
BERNEBOY 8
CHIPSTICKS 8
DAVE SHELLEY 8
EXETER 77 8
LATZ 8
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TIMBERT VILLA 8
LEVICO 6
TONY ERDINGTON 5
WESTLEY ARMS AV 3
DIVISION FOUR
PETE3206 3
CYPRUS VILLAIN 2
DR BUTLER 2
FRANKMOSSWASMYUNCLE 2
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GARYSHAWSKNEE 2
IRISH COCKNEY 2
DANLANZA 1
DESONTHEHOLTE 1
FLYBO 1
SIR LORD BALTIMORE 1
BELGIUMBRUMMIE 0
DBTW 0
GJH 0
GOALPOSTS4JUMPERS 0
GREENWICHVILLA 0
HAVEN CHEESE 0
JB1811 0
JONBOY 0
LUKE25 0
THE LAUGHING POLICEMAN 0
WOMBAT 0
WOODY4866 0
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In the event of any teams in Division 4 not securing at least 6 points after 12 matches, they will be removed from the league and the remainder will be merged back into Division 3.
Sunderland was game 9.
At the moment, teams on equal points are sorted on alphabetical order. However, when the season ends, promotion and relegation issues will be determined by the closest guess for the last game, where teams are level.
TABLES AFTER THE SUNDERLAND GAME.
DIVISION ONE
QBVILLA 20
LONDON VILLAN 19
CHARLIE 8182 17
SASHA'S GRANDAD 16
WALMLEY_VILLA 16
FRANK 15
MJLIONS 15
NICO2708 15
POOLIGAN 15
SOMEC 14
VILLAJK 14
DAVE CLARK FIVE 13
LENNYTHEKAD 13
ROTTERDAM 13
SISTER OF TOP CAT 13
USAV 13
KNOWSLEYVILLAIN 12
DAZVILLAIN 11
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LAMBSTEWBERT 11
LEGION 11
PLUMBUTT COOPER 10
TONY D 10
DIVISION TWO
LOU'ZIE0 18
MEANWOOD VILLA 18
ANDY_LOCHHEAD_IN_THE_AIR 16
BERTLAMBSHANK 16
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EAMONN 16
MORTIMER'S BEAR 16
DARREN WOOLLEY 15
SIMON WARD 15
DAVE VILLAN 13
PGW 13
BREN_D 12
GRANDE PABLO 12
PETERWITHESSHIN 12
TRICKY DICKY 12
BENESS 11
JIMMY GREEN 11
TOP CAT 11
ROCKET REDUCER NO. 62 10
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ANDY ASTON 9
IRISH VILLAIN 9
RUDY LAMBERT 9
REUBEN 4
DIVISION THREE
JOHNBOY 19
VANCOUVERLION 16
EASTIE 14
GOLDIE.7 14
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CDBULLYWEEFAN 13
OLAFTAB 13
ADS 12
SILHILL VILLA 12
PETER W 11
ADVILLAFAN 10
BERNEBOY 9
DAVE SHELLEY 9
EXETER 77 9
CHIPSTICKS 8
LATZ 8
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TIMBERT VILLA 8
LEVICO 6
TONY ERDINGTON 5
WESTLEY ARMS AV 3
DIVISION FOUR
PETE3206 5
CYPRUS VILLAIN 2
DR BUTLER 2
FRANKMOSSWASMYUNCLE 2
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GARYSHAWSKNEE 2
IRISH COCKNEY 2
DANLANZA 1
DESONTHEHOLTE 1
FLYBO 1
SIR LORD BALTIMORE 1
BELGIUMBRUMMIE 0
DBTW 0
GJH 0
GOALPOSTS4JUMPERS 0
GREENWICHVILLA 0
HAVEN CHEESE 0
JB1811 0
JONBOY 0
LUKE25 0
THE LAUGHING POLICEMAN 0
WOMBAT 0
WOODY4866 0
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The GTC offices reopen after the Sheffield game. The league tables will then be updated.
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In the event of any teams in Division 4 not securing at least 6 points after 12 matches, they will be removed from the league and the remainder will be merged back into Division 3.
Man Utd was game 10.
At the moment, teams on equal points are sorted on alphabetical order. However, when the season ends, promotion and relegation issues will be determined by the closest guess for the last game, where teams are level.
TABLES AFTER THE MAN UTD GAME.
DIVISION ONE
QBVILLA 21
LONDON VILLAN 20
CHARLIE 8182 18
MJLIONS 18
SASHA'S GRANDAD 17
WALMLEY_VILLA 17
FRANK 16
NICO2708 16
POOLIGAN 16
DAVE CLARK FIVE 15
SOMEC 15
VILLAJK 15
LAMBSTEWBERT 14
LENNYTHEKAD 14
ROTTERDAM 14
SISTER OF TOP CAT 14
KNOWSLEYVILLAIN 13
USAV 13
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DAZVILLAIN 12
LEGION 12
TONY D 12
PLUMBUTT COOPER 11
DIVISION TWO
LOU'ZIE0 19
MEANWOOD VILLA 19
BERTLAMBSHANK 18
ANDY_LOCHHEAD_IN_THE_AIR 17
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DARREN WOOLLEY 17
EAMONN 17
MORTIMER'S BEAR 17
SIMON WARD 16
BREN_D 15
DAVE VILLAN 14
PGW 14
GRANDE PABLO 13
PETERWITHESSHIN 13
TRICKY DICKY 13
BENESS 12
JIMMY GREEN 12
TOP CAT 12
ROCKET REDUCER NO. 62 11
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RUDY LAMBERT 11
ANDY ASTON 10
IRISH VILLAIN 10
REUBEN 4
DIVISION THREE
JOHNBOY 20
GOLDIE.7 17
VANCOUVERLION 17
EASTIE 15
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ADS 14
CDBULLYWEEFAN 14
OLAFTAB 14
SILHILL VILLA 14
PETER W 12
ADVILLAFAN 11
BERNEBOY 10
CHIPSTICKS 10
DAVE SHELLEY 10
EXETER 77 10
TIMBERT VILLA 9
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LATZ 8
LEVICO 7
TONY ERDINGTON 5
WESTLEY ARMS AV 3
DIVISION FOUR
PETE3206 5
FRANKMOSSWASMYUNCLE 3
CYPRUS VILLAIN 2
DR BUTLER 2
GARYSHAWSKNEE 2
IRISH COCKNEY 2
SIR LORD BALTIMORE 2
DANLANZA 1
DESONTHEHOLTE 1
FLYBO 1
BELGIUMBRUMMIE 0
DBTW 0
GJH 0
GOALPOSTS4JUMPERS 0
GREENWICHVILLA 0
HAVEN CHEESE 0
JB1811 0
JONBOY 0
LUKE25 0
THE LAUGHING POLICEMAN 0
WOMBAT 0
WOODY4866 0
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In the event of any teams in Division 4 not securing at least 6 points after 12 matches, they will be removed from the league and the remainder will be merged back into Division 3.
Palace was game 11.
At the moment, teams on equal points are sorted on alphabetical order. However, when the season ends, promotion and relegation issues will be determined by the closest guess for the last game, where teams are level.
TABLES AFTER THE PALACE GAME.
DIVISION ONE
LONDON VILLAN 21
QBVILLA 21
CHARLIE 8182 19
MJLIONS 19
SASHA'S GRANDAD 19
WALMLEY_VILLA 19
FRANK 17
NICO2708 17
POOLIGAN 17
SISTER OF TOP CAT 17
DAVE CLARK FIVE 16
SOMEC 16
TONY D 16
VILLAJK 16
KNOWSLEYVILLAIN 15
LAMBSTEWBERT 15
LENNYTHEKAD 15
ROTTERDAM 15
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USAV 14
LEGION 13
DAZVILLAIN 12
PLUMBUTT COOPER 12
DIVISION TWO
LOU'ZIE0 20
MEANWOOD VILLA 20
BERTLAMBSHANK 19
ANDY_LOCHHEAD_IN_THE_AIR 18
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DARREN WOOLLEY 18
EAMONN 18
MORTIMER'S BEAR 18
SIMON WARD 17
BENESS 15
BREN_D 15
DAVE VILLAN 15
PGW 15
TRICKY DICKY 15
GRANDE PABLO 14
PETERWITHESSHIN 14
JIMMY GREEN 13
TOP CAT 13
ROCKET REDUCER NO. 62 12
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RUDY LAMBERT 12
ANDY ASTON 11
IRISH VILLAIN 10
REUBEN 4
DIVISION THREE
JOHNBOY 21
GOLDIE.7 18
VANCOUVERLION 18
EASTIE 17
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CDBULLYWEEFAN 16
ADS 15
OLAFTAB 15
SILHILL VILLA 15
PETER W 13
ADVILLAFAN 12
BERNEBOY 11
DAVE SHELLEY 11
EXETER 77 11
CHIPSTICKS 10
TIMBERT VILLA 9
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LATZ 8
LEVICO 8
TONY ERDINGTON 5
WESTLEY ARMS AV 3
DIVISION FOUR
PETE3206 5
FRANKMOSSWASMYUNCLE 4
CYPRUS VILLAIN 2
DR BUTLER 2
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GARYSHAWSKNEE 2
IRISH COCKNEY 2
SIR LORD BALTIMORE 2
DANLANZA 1
DESONTHEHOLTE 1
FLYBO 1
BELGIUMBRUMMIE 0
DBTW 0
GJH 0
GOALPOSTS4JUMPERS 0
GREENWICHVILLA 0
HAVEN CHEESE 0
JB1811 0
JONBOY 0
LUKE25 0
THE LAUGHING POLICEMAN 0
WOMBAT 0
WOODY4866 0
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Division 4 has been scrapped and those who have been entering lately have been moved into Division 3.
At the moment, teams on equal points are sorted on alphabetical order. However, when the season ends, promotion and relegation issues will be determined by the closest guess for the last game, where teams are level.
TABLES AFTER THE SWANSEA GAME.
DIVISION ONE
LONDON VILLAN 22
SASHA'S GRANDAD 22
QBVILLA 21
CHARLIE 8182 20
MJLIONS 20
WALMLEY_VILLA 20
FRANK 18
NICO2708 18
POOLIGAN 18
SISTER OF TOP CAT 18
DAVE CLARK FIVE 17
SOMEC 17
TONY D 17
VILLAJK 17
KNOWSLEYVILLAIN 16
LAMBSTEWBERT 16
LENNYTHEKAD 16
ROTTERDAM 16
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USAV 15
LEGION 14
DAZVILLAIN 13
PLUMBUTT COOPER 13
DIVISION TWO
LOU'ZIE0 25
MEANWOOD VILLA 23
BERTLAMBSHANK 20
DARREN WOOLLEY 20
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ANDY_LOCHHEAD_IN_THE_AIR 19
EAMONN 19
MORTIMER'S BEAR 19
SIMON WARD 18
TRICKY DICKY 17
BENESS 16
BREN_D 16
PGW 16
DAVE VILLAN 15
GRANDE PABLO 15
PETERWITHESSHIN 15
JIMMY GREEN 14
TOP CAT 14
ROCKET REDUCER NO. 62 13
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ANDY ASTON 12
RUDY LAMBERT 12
IRISH VILLAIN 10
REUBEN 4
DIVISION THREE
JOHNBOY 22
EASTIE 20
GOLDIE.7 19
VANCOUVERLION 19
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CDBULLYWEEFAN 17
ADS 16
OLAFTAB 16
SILHILL VILLA 16
PETER W 14
ADVILLAFAN 13
EXETER 77 13
BERNEBOY 12
DAVE SHELLEY 12
CHIPSTICKS 10
LEVICO 9
TIMBERT VILLA 9
LATZ 8
PETE3206 5
TONY ERDINGTON 5
FRANKMOSSWASMYUNCLE 4
WESTLEY ARMS AV 3
CYPRUS VILLAIN 2
DR BUTLER 2
GARYSHAWSKNEE 2
IRISH COCKNEY 2
SIR LORD BALTIMORE 2
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At the moment, teams on equal points are sorted on alphabetical order. However, when the season ends, promotion and relegation issues will be determined by the closest guess for the last game, where teams are level.
TABLES AFTER THE SHEFFIELD UNITED GAME.
DIVISION ONE
CHARLIE 8182 23
LONDON VILLAN 23
SASHA'S GRANDAD 23
WALMLEY_VILLA 23
QBVILLA 22
MJLIONS 21
NICO2708 21
VILLAJK 21
SOMEC 20
DAVE CLARK FIVE 19
FRANK 19
POOLIGAN 19
SISTER OF TOP CAT 19
LENNYTHEKAD 18
TONY D 18
KNOWSLEYVILLAIN 17
LAMBSTEWBERT 17
ROTTERDAM 17
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LEGION 16
USAV 16
DAZVILLAIN 14
PLUMBUTT COOPER 14
DIVISION TWO
LOU'ZIE0 26
MEANWOOD VILLA 24
DARREN WOOLLEY 22
ANDY_LOCHHEAD_IN_THE_AIR 21
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BERTLAMBSHANK 21
PGW 21
MORTIMER'S BEAR 20
EAMONN 19
BREN_D 18
PETERWITHESSHIN 18
SIMON WARD 18
TRICKY DICKY 18
BENESS 17
DAVE VILLAN 17
GRANDE PABLO 16
JIMMY GREEN 15
ROCKET REDUCER NO. 62 15
TOP CAT 15
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ANDY ASTON 12
RUDY LAMBERT 12
IRISH VILLAIN 10
REUBEN 4
DIVISION THREE
JOHNBOY 23
EASTIE 21
GOLDIE.7 20
VANCOUVERLION 20
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CDBULLYWEEFAN 18
ADS 17
OLAFTAB 17
SILHILL VILLA 16
PETER W 15
ADVILLAFAN 13
BERNEBOY 13
DAVE SHELLEY 13
EXETER 77 13
CHIPSTICKS 12
LEVICO 9
TIMBERT VILLA 9
LATZ 8
PETE3206 6
FRANKMOSSWASMYUNCLE 5
TONY ERDINGTON 5
WESTLEY ARMS AV 3
CYPRUS VILLAIN 2
DR BUTLER 2
GARYSHAWSKNEE 2
IRISH COCKNEY 2
SIR LORD BALTIMORE 2
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At the moment, teams on equal points are sorted on alphabetical order. However, when the season ends, promotion and relegation issues will be determined by the closest guess for the last game, where teams are level.
TABLES AFTER THE ARSENAL GAME.
DIVISION ONE
CHARLIE 8182 25
LONDON VILLAN 25
SASHA'S GRANDAD 25
WALMLEY_VILLA 24
QBVILLA 23
KNOWSLEYVILLAIN 22
MJLIONS 22
NICO2708 22
POOLIGAN 22
VILLAJK 22
SOMEC 21
DAVE CLARK FIVE 20
FRANK 20
LENNYTHEKAD 20
SISTER OF TOP CAT 20
ROTTERDAM 19
TONY D 19
LAMBSTEWBERT 18
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USAV 18
LEGION 17
DAZVILLAIN 15
PLUMBUTT COOPER 15
DIVISION TWO
LOU'ZIE0 27
MEANWOOD VILLA 25
BERTLAMBSHANK 23
DARREN WOOLLEY 23
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SIMON WARD 23
ANDY_LOCHHEAD_IN_THE_AIR 22
PGW 22
MORTIMER'S BEAR 21
BENESS 20
EAMONN 20
BREN_D 19
PETERWITHESSHIN 19
TRICKY DICKY 19
DAVE VILLAN 18
GRANDE PABLO 17
ROCKET REDUCER NO. 62 16
TOP CAT 16
JIMMY GREEN 15
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RUDY LAMBERT 14
ANDY ASTON 12
IRISH VILLAIN 11
REUBEN 4
DIVISION THREE
JOHNBOY 24
EASTIE 22
GOLDIE.7 21
VANCOUVERLION 21
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CDBULLYWEEFAN 19
OLAFTAB 19
ADS 18
SILHILL VILLA 17
PETER W 16
ADVILLAFAN 14
BERNEBOY 14
DAVE SHELLEY 14
EXETER 77 14
CHIPSTICKS 13
TIMBERT VILLA 12
LEVICO 9
PETE3206 9
LATZ 8
FRANKMOSSWASMYUNCLE 5
TONY ERDINGTON 5
WESTLEY ARMS AV 3
CYPRUS VILLAIN 2
DR BUTLER 2
GARYSHAWSKNEE 2
IRISH COCKNEY 2
SIR LORD BALTIMORE 2
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At the moment, teams on equal points are sorted on alphabetical order. However, when the season ends, promotion and relegation issues will be determined by the closest guess for the last game, where teams are level.
TABLES AFTER THE ALBION GAME.
DIVISION ONE
CHARLIE 8182 28
LONDON VILLAN 26
SASHA'S GRANDAD 26
VILLAJK 25
WALMLEY_VILLA 25
KNOWSLEYVILLAIN 24
POOLIGAN 24
QBVILLA 24
MJLIONS 23
NICO2708 23
SOMEC 23
DAVE CLARK FIVE 22
LENNYTHEKAD 22
FRANK 21
SISTER OF TOP CAT 21
ROTTERDAM 20
TONY D 20
LAMBSTEWBERT 19
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USAV 19
DAZVILLAIN 18
LEGION 18
PLUMBUTT COOPER 16
DIVISION TWO
LOU'ZIE0 29
MEANWOOD VILLA 26
BERTLAMBSHANK 24
DARREN WOOLLEY 24
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PGW 24
SIMON WARD 24
ANDY_LOCHHEAD_IN_THE_AIR 23
BENESS 22
MORTIMER'S BEAR 22
BREN_D 20
EAMONN 20
PETERWITHESSHIN 20
TRICKY DICKY 20
DAVE VILLAN 19
GRANDE PABLO 18
ROCKET REDUCER NO. 62 17
TOP CAT 17
JIMMY GREEN 16
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RUDY LAMBERT 15
ANDY ASTON 13
IRISH VILLAIN 12
REUBEN 4
DIVISION THREE
JOHNBOY 25
CDBULLYWEEFAN 23
EASTIE 23
VANCOUVERLION 23
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GOLDIE.7 22
ADS 19
BERNEBOY 19
OLAFTAB 19
SILHILL VILLA 18
PETER W 17
ADVILLAFAN 15
DAVE SHELLEY 15
EXETER 77 15
TIMBERT VILLA 15
CHIPSTICKS 14
LEVICO 9
PETE3206 9
LATZ 8
FRANKMOSSWASMYUNCLE 5
TONY ERDINGTON 5
WESTLEY ARMS AV 3
CYPRUS VILLAIN 2
DR BUTLER 2
GARYSHAWSKNEE 2
IRISH COCKNEY 2
SIR LORD BALTIMORE 2
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HONOURS BOARD
2007 - 2008
League Champion - PENDINE VILLA
2008-2009
Division 1 - Joint Champions - GOALPOSTS4JUMPERS AND ROGFROMB6
Division 2 - Champions - CHARLIE8182
Division 3 - Joint Champions - ARSEY AND EAMONN
Division 4 Champions - MJLIONS
GTC Cup
Winner - VILLAJK
Runner-up - AV82EC
GTC 'Claret and Blue Wedding' League Cup -
Winner - PANTS
Runner-up - GOALPOSTS4JUMPERS
2009 - 2010
GTC 'Claret and Blue Wedding' League Cup -
Winner - GRANDE PABLO
Runner-up - FERGAL
GTC Cup
Winner - JD
Runner-up - COLOMBIAN VILLAIN
Division One Champions - GOALPOSTS4JUMPERS
Division Two Champions - IANB
Division Three Champions - CDVILLAFAN
Division Four Champions - ADS
2010 - 2011
GTC Cup
Winner - GOALPOSTS4JUMPERS
Runner-up - CDVILLAFAN
GTC League Cup -
Winner - GRANDE PABLO
Runner-up - CDVILLAFAN
Division One Champions - CHARLIE 8182
Division Two Champions - ALEXALEXCROPLEY
Division Three Champions - USAV
2011 - 2012
GTC FA Cup
Winner - BC54 VFC
Runner-up - ROTTERDAM
GTC League Cup -
Winner - DAZ VILLAIN
Runner-up - WALMLEY_VILLA
Division One Champions - WALMLEY_VILLA
Division One Runners-Up - DAZ VILLAIN
Division Two Champions - FRANK
Division Two Runners-Up - NICO 2708
Division Three Champions - WOODY 4866
Division Three Runners-Up - LOU'ZIE0
2012 - 2013 SEASON
GTC FA Cup
Winner - LAMBSTEWBERT
Runner-Up - ADVILLAFAN
GTC League Cup
Winner - LAMBSTEWBERT
Runner-up - EXETER77
Division One Champions - LENNY THE KAD
Division One Runners- Up - DAVE CLARK FIVE
Division Two Champions - POOLIGAN
Division Two Runners- Up - SOMEC
Division Three Champions - PGW
Division Three Runners - Up - IRISH VILLAIN
Charity Shield
Winner - LONDON VILLAN
Runner-Up - LENNY THE KAD
2013 - 2014 SEASON
GTC League Cup
Winner - EASTIE
Runner-Up - PETERWITHESSHIN
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At the moment, teams on equal points are sorted on alphabetical order. However, when the season ends, promotion and relegation issues will be determined by the closest guess for the last game, where teams are level.
TABLES AFTER THE WEST HAM GAME.
DIVISION ONE
CHARLIE 8182 31
LONDON VILLAN 29
SASHA'S GRANDAD 28
KNOWSLEYVILLAIN 27
POOLIGAN 27
WALMLEY_VILLA 27
MJLIONS 26
QBVILLA 26
VILLAJK 26
DAVE CLARK FIVE 25
LENNYTHEKAD 25
FRANK 24
NICO2708 24
SOMEC 24
ROTTERDAM 23
LAMBSTEWBERT 22
SISTER OF TOP CAT 22
TONY D 22
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USAV 22
LEGION 21
DAZVILLAIN 20
PLUMBUTT COOPER 19
DIVISION TWO
LOU'ZIE0 31
MEANWOOD VILLA 29
DARREN WOOLLEY 28
BERTLAMBSHANK 27
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PGW 27
SIMON WARD 27
ANDY_LOCHHEAD_IN_THE_AIR 25
BENESS 25
TRICKY DICKY 24
MORTIMER'S BEAR 23
EAMONN 22
PETERWITHESSHIN 22
BREN_D 21
JIMMY GREEN 21
DAVE VILLAN 20
ROCKET REDUCER NO. 62 20
GRANDE PABLO 19
TOP CAT 19
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RUDY LAMBERT 17
ANDY ASTON 16
IRISH VILLAIN 14
REUBEN 4
DIVISION THREE
JOHNBOY 28
EASTIE 27
CDBULLYWEEFAN 26
VANCOUVERLION 25
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GOLDIE.7 23
ADS 22
BERNEBOY 22
OLAFTAB 20
SILHILL VILLA 19
EXETER 77 18
PETER W 17
ADVILLAFAN 16
DAVE SHELLEY 16
CHIPSTICKS 15
TIMBERT VILLA 15
LEVICO 10
PETE3206 9
LATZ 8
FRANKMOSSWASMYUNCLE 5
TONY ERDINGTON 5
WESTLEY ARMS AV 3
CYPRUS VILLAIN 2
DR BUTLER 2
GARYSHAWSKNEE 2
IRISH COCKNEY 2
SIR LORD BALTIMORE 2
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At the moment, teams on equal points are sorted on alphabetical order. However, when the season ends, promotion and relegation issues will be determined by the closest guess for the last game, where teams are level.
TABLES AFTER THE NORWICH GAME.
DIVISION ONE
CHARLIE 8182 32
LONDON VILLAN 30
SASHA'S GRANDAD 29
KNOWSLEYVILLAIN 28
POOLIGAN 28
WALMLEY_VILLA 28
MJLIONS 27
QBVILLA 27
VILLAJK 27
DAVE CLARK FIVE 26
LENNYTHEKAD 26
FRANK 25
NICO2708 25
SOMEC 25
ROTTERDAM 24
LAMBSTEWBERT 23
SISTER OF TOP CAT 23
TONY D 23
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USAV 23
LEGION 22
DAZVILLAIN 21
PLUMBUTT COOPER 20
DIVISION TWO
LOU'ZIE0 32
MEANWOOD VILLA 30
DARREN WOOLLEY 29
BERTLAMBSHANK 28
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PGW 28
SIMON WARD 28
ANDY_LOCHHEAD_IN_THE_AIR 26
BENESS 26
TRICKY DICKY 25
MORTIMER'S BEAR 24
EAMONN 23
PETERWITHESSHIN 23
BREN_D 22
JIMMY GREEN 22
DAVE VILLAN 21
ROCKET REDUCER NO. 62 21
GRANDE PABLO 20
TOP CAT 20
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RUDY LAMBERT 18
ANDY ASTON 16
IRISH VILLAIN 15
REUBEN 4
DIVISION THREE
JOHNBOY 29
EASTIE 28
CDBULLYWEEFAN 27
VANCOUVERLION 26
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GOLDIE.7 24
ADS 23
BERNEBOY 23
OLAFTAB 21
SILHILL VILLA 20
EXETER 77 19
ADVILLAFAN 17
DAVE SHELLEY 17
PETER W 17
TIMBERT VILLA 16
CHIPSTICKS 15
LEVICO 11
PETE3206 9
LATZ 8
FRANKMOSSWASMYUNCLE 5
TONY ERDINGTON 5
WESTLEY ARMS AV 3
CYPRUS VILLAIN 2
DR BUTLER 2
GARYSHAWSKNEE 2
IRISH COCKNEY 2
SIR LORD BALTIMORE 2
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At the moment, teams on equal points are sorted on alphabetical order. However, when the season ends, promotion and relegation issues will be determined by the closest guess for the last game, where teams are level.
TABLES AFTER THE CHELSEA GAME.
DIVISION ONE
CHARLIE 8182 33
LONDON VILLAN 31
WALMLEY_VILLA 31
SASHA'S GRANDAD 30
VILLAJK 30
KNOWSLEYVILLAIN 29
POOLIGAN 29
DAVE CLARK FIVE 28
LAMBSTEWBERT 28
MJLIONS 28
QBVILLA 28
LENNYTHEKAD 27
NICO2708 27
FRANK 26
SOMEC 26
LEGION 25
ROTTERDAM 25
USAV 25
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SISTER OF TOP CAT 24
TONY D 24
DAZVILLAIN 23
PLUMBUTT COOPER 21
DIVISION TWO
LOU'ZIE0 33
BENESS 31
MEANWOOD VILLA 31
DARREN WOOLLEY 30
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BERTLAMBSHANK 29
PGW 29
SIMON WARD 29
ANDY_LOCHHEAD_IN_THE_AIR 27
EAMONN 26
MORTIMER'S BEAR 26
JIMMY GREEN 25
TRICKY DICKY 25
PETERWITHESSHIN 24
BREN_D 23
DAVE VILLAN 22
ROCKET REDUCER NO. 62 22
GRANDE PABLO 21
TOP CAT 21
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RUDY LAMBERT 19
ANDY ASTON 16
IRISH VILLAIN 16
REUBEN 4
DIVISION THREE
CDBULLYWEEFAN 31
JOHNBOY 30
EASTIE 29
VANCOUVERLION 27
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GOLDIE.7 25
ADS 24
BERNEBOY 24
OLAFTAB 22
SILHILL VILLA 21
EXETER 77 20
PETER W 19
ADVILLAFAN 18
DAVE SHELLEY 18
TIMBERT VILLA 17
CHIPSTICKS 15
LEVICO 11
PETE3206 9
LATZ 8
FRANKMOSSWASMYUNCLE 5
TONY ERDINGTON 5
WESTLEY ARMS AV 3
CYPRUS VILLAIN 2
DR BUTLER 2
GARYSHAWSKNEE 2
IRISH COCKNEY 2
SIR LORD BALTIMORE 2
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At the moment, teams on equal points are sorted on alphabetical order. However, when the season ends, promotion and relegation issues will be determined by the closest guess for the last game, where teams are level.
TABLES AFTER THE STOKE GAME.
DIVISION ONE
CHARLIE 8182 34
LONDON VILLAN 32
WALMLEY_VILLA 32
SASHA'S GRANDAD 31
VILLAJK 31
KNOWSLEYVILLAIN 30
POOLIGAN 30
DAVE CLARK FIVE 29
LAMBSTEWBERT 29
MJLIONS 29
QBVILLA 29
LENNYTHEKAD 28
NICO2708 28
FRANK 27
LEGION 26
ROTTERDAM 26
SOMEC 26
USAV 26
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SISTER OF TOP CAT 25
TONY D 25
DAZVILLAIN 24
PLUMBUTT COOPER 22
DIVISION TWO
LOU'ZIE0 34
DAVE VILLAN 33
BENESS 32
MEANWOOD VILLA 32
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DARREN WOOLLEY 31
BERTLAMBSHANK 30
PGW 30
SIMON WARD 30
ANDY_LOCHHEAD_IN_THE_AIR 28
EAMONN 27
MORTIMER'S BEAR 27
JIMMY GREEN 26
TRICKY DICKY 26
PETERWITHESSHIN 25
BREN_D 23
ROCKET REDUCER NO. 62 23
GRANDE PABLO 22
TOP CAT 22
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RUDY LAMBERT 20
ANDY ASTON 18
IRISH VILLAIN 17
REUBEN 4
DIVISION THREE
CDBULLYWEEFAN 32
JOHNBOY 31
EASTIE 29
VANCOUVERLION 28
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GOLDIE.7 26
ADS 25
BERNEBOY 25
OLAFTAB 23
SILHILL VILLA 22
EXETER 77 21
PETER W 20
DAVE SHELLEY 19
ADVILLAFAN 18
TIMBERT VILLA 18
CHIPSTICKS 15
LEVICO 11
PETE3206 9
LATZ 8
FRANKMOSSWASMYUNCLE 5
TONY ERDINGTON 5
WESTLEY ARMS AV 3
CYPRUS VILLAIN 2
DR BUTLER 2
GARYSHAWSKNEE 2
IRISH COCKNEY 2
SIR LORD BALTIMORE 2
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At the moment, teams on equal points are sorted on alphabetical order. However, when the season ends, promotion and relegation issues will be determined by the closest guess for the last game, where teams are level.
TABLES AFTER THE FULHAM GAME.
DIVISION ONE
LONDON VILLAN 37
CHARLIE 8182 35
WALMLEY_VILLA 33
SASHA'S GRANDAD 32
VILLAJK 32
POOLIGAN 31
DAVE CLARK FIVE 30
KNOWSLEYVILLAIN 30
LAMBSTEWBERT 30
LENNYTHEKAD 30
MJLIONS 30
QBVILLA 30
SOMEC 29
USAV 29
FRANK 28
NICO2708 28
ROTTERDAM 28
SISTER OF TOP CAT 28
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DAZVILLAIN 27
LEGION 27
TONY D 27
PLUMBUTT COOPER 24
DIVISION TWO
BENESS 35
LOU'ZIE0 35
DAVE VILLAN 34
DARREN WOOLLEY 33
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MEANWOOD VILLA 33
BERTLAMBSHANK 31
PGW 31
SIMON WARD 31
ANDY_LOCHHEAD_IN_THE_AIR 30
EAMONN 29
JIMMY GREEN 28
MORTIMER'S BEAR 27
PETERWITHESSHIN 27
BREN_D 26
TRICKY DICKY 26
TOP CAT 25
ROCKET REDUCER NO. 62 24
GRANDE PABLO 23
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RUDY LAMBERT 22
ANDY ASTON 18
IRISH VILLAIN 17
REUBEN 4
DIVISION THREE
CDBULLYWEEFAN 35
JOHNBOY 32
VANCOUVERLION 31
EASTIE 29
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GOLDIE.7 27
ADS 26
BERNEBOY 26
EXETER 77 24
OLAFTAB 24
PETER W 23
SILHILL VILLA 23
DAVE SHELLEY 20
TIMBERT VILLA 20
ADVILLAFAN 19
CHIPSTICKS 15
LEVICO 11
PETE3206 9
LATZ 8
FRANKMOSSWASMYUNCLE 5
TONY ERDINGTON 5
WESTLEY ARMS AV 3
CYPRUS VILLAIN 2
DR BUTLER 2
GARYSHAWSKNEE 2
IRISH COCKNEY 2
SIR LORD BALTIMORE 2
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Remember, with only one game to go:
At the moment, teams on equal points are sorted on alphabetical order. However, when the season ends, promotion and relegation issues will be determined by the closest guess for the last game, where teams are level.
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At the moment, teams on equal points are sorted on alphabetical order. However, when the season ends, promotion and relegation issues will be determined by the closest guess for the last game, where teams are level.
TABLES AFTER THE SOUTHAMPTON GAME.
DIVISION ONE
LONDON VILLAN 38
CHARLIE 8182 36
WALMLEY_VILLA 36
SASHA'S GRANDAD 35
KNOWSLEYVILLAIN 33
POOLIGAN 33
VILLAJK 33
MJLIONS 32
QBVILLA 32
TONY D 32
DAVE CLARK FIVE 31
LAMBSTEWBERT 31
LENNYTHEKAD 31
NICO2708 31
SOMEC 31
USAV 31
DAZVILLAIN 30
FRANK 29
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ROTTERDAM 29
SISTER OF TOP CAT 29
LEGION 28
PLUMBUTT COOPER 27
DIVISION TWO
BENESS 36
DAVE VILLAN 36
LOU'ZIE0 36
DARREN WOOLLEY 34
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EAMONN 34
MEANWOOD VILLA 34
SIMON WARD 34
BERTLAMBSHANK 32
PGW 32
ANDY_LOCHHEAD_IN_THE_AIR 31
PETERWITHESSHIN 30
JIMMY GREEN 29
MORTIMER'S BEAR 28
TOP CAT 28
ROCKET REDUCER NO. 62 27
TRICKY DICKY 27
BREN_D 26
GRANDE PABLO 23
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THE SOUND OF VILLADELPHIA 23
ANDY ASTON 18
IRISH VILLAIN 17
REUBEN 4 - R
DIVISION THREE
CDBULLYWEEFAN 37
JOHNBOY 33
VANCOUVERLION 32
EASTIE 29
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ADS 28
GOLDIE.7 28
BERNEBOY 27
EXETER 77 26
OLAFTAB 24
SILHILL VILLA 24
PETER W 23
ADVILLAFAN 21
DAVE SHELLEY 21
TIMBERT VILLA 21
CHIPSTICKS 15
LEVICO 12
PETE3206 9
LATZ 8
FRANKMOSSWASMYUNCLE 5
TONY ERDINGTON 5
DR BUTLER 3
WESTLEY ARMS AV 3
CYPRUS VILLAIN 2
GARYSHAWSKNEE 2
IRISH COCKNEY 2
SIR LORD BALTIMORE 2
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Going by that table, I must have guessed 21 times. Out of 18.
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I've let my standards slip after a promising start. Need to pull a good one out of the bag for last game to seal that last promotion spot.
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I've let my standards slip after a promising start. Need to pull a good one out of the bag for last game to seal that last promotion spot.
I have a feeling Ads or Goldie may go up in Eastie's place.
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Looks like I'm going down - to be replaced by Darren Wooley, which is nice.
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I've gone early with my guess... Not sure I can take the pressure...
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Looks like I'm going down - to be replaced by Darren Wooley, which is nice.
It's been tough at that end of the division but it's not over yet.
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Looks like I'm going down - to be replaced by Darren Wooley, which is nice.
It's been tough at that end of the division but it's not over yet.
Yes, but I need a very close guess and then I'll still be looking at other results!
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Mid table obscurity, yes! I am the Middlesbrough of GTC.
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Surely I can't fuck promotion up now...
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Surely I can't fuck promotion up now...
It would be difficult unless a few got the elusive 11 points.
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Looks like I'm going down - to be replaced by Darren Wooley, which is nice.
It's been tough at that end of the division but it's not over yet.
Yes, but I need a very close guess and then I'll still be looking at other results!
That run in the FA Cup must have made things difficult.
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Blah blah blah. None of you know what it's really like down here in the basement. This is where predicting is real and honest. None of you fancy predictors with your foreign names and bags of cash. Oh well, we go again.
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Looks like I'm going down - to be replaced by Darren Wooley, which is nice.
It's been tough at that end of the division but it's not over yet.
Yes, but I need a very close guess and then I'll still be looking at other results!
That run in the FA Cup must have made things difficult.
I am the Wigan of GTC.
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I might go in to Administration and get myself set up for next season.
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Blah blah blah. None of you know what it's really like down here in the basement. This is where predicting is real and honest. None of you fancy predictors with your foreign names and bags of cash. Oh well, we go again.
id rather be in the bottom division anyway.thats where all tha best bants is and away from the boring top-flight.
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Blah blah blah. None of you know what it's really like down here in the basement. This is where predicting is real and honest. None of you fancy predictors with your foreign names and bags of cash. Oh well, we go again.
id rather be in the bottom division anyway.thats where all tha best bants is and away from the boring top-flight.
Do the fans still tie silk scarves around their wrists down there?
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Blah blah blah. None of you know what it's really like down here in the basement. This is where predicting is real and honest. None of you fancy predictors with your foreign names and bags of cash. Oh well, we go again.
id rather be in the bottom division anyway.thats where all tha best bants is and away from the boring top-flight.
Do the fans still tie silk scarves around their wrists down there?
I'll let you know next season.
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Wow...thought my chances of promotion to the top-flight had faded away during the winter. One last push now...
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I'm shitting bricks. Division 2 here I come.
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I'm shitting bricks. Division 2 here I come.
Down with the Cooper, you're going down with the Cooper!
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One last chance for promotion i will not mess it up!!
Yeah right
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Waey I am promoted on alphabetical order [unless Goldie gets more points]
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Promotion wankers!
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Yaaaay.......i'm promoted i got 2 or 3 points which will take me up in my first season.
Todays att: 37,182
Unlucky Ads enjoy Division 3 life ;)
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52 out. I think that makes me safe in the top flight.
Thanks for organising DC.
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Promotion and relegation issues will be determined by the closest guess for the last game, where teams are level or the Southampton game where there was no guess for the Hull game.
FINAL LEAGUE TABLES AFTER THE HULL GAME.
DIVISION ONE
LONDON VILLAN 41 C
CHARLIE 8182 38
SASHA'S GRANDAD 37
WALMLEY_VILLA 37
KNOWSLEYVILLAIN 35
VILLAJK 35
LAMBSTEWBERT 34
POOLIGAN 34
TONY D 34
DAZVILLAIN 33
MJLIONS 33
QBVILLA 33
ROTTERDAM 33
DAVE CLARK FIVE 32
LENNYTHEKAD 32
SOMEC 32
FRANK 31
NICO2708 31 349 Southampton
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USAV 31 R 902 Southampton
LEGION R 30
SISTER OF TOP CAT R 30
PLUMBUTT COOPER R 28
DIVISION TWO
BENESS 39 C
LOU'ZIE0 38 P
MEANWOOD VILLA 37 P 207 Hull
EAMONN 37 P 314 Hull
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DAVE VILLAN 37 1694 Hull
DARREN WOOLLEY 36
SIMON WARD 34
BERTLAMBSHANK 33
PGW 33
ANDY_LOCHHEAD_IN_THE_AIR 32
PETERWITHESSHIN 32
TOP CAT 31
JIMMY GREEN 30
MORTIMER'S BEAR 30
BREN_D 28
ROCKET REDUCER NO. 62 28
TRICKY DICKY 28
GRANDE PABLO 24 1014 Hull
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THE SOUND OF VILLADELPHIA 24 R 1650 Hull
ANDY ASTON 18 R
IRISH VILLAIN 17 R
REUBEN 4 R
DIVISION THREE
CDBULLYWEEFAN 40 C
JOHNBOY 36 P
VANCOUVERLION 35 P
GOLDIE.7 30 P
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ADS 29
EASTIE 29
BERNEBOY 28
EXETER 77 28
SILHILL VILLA 27
ADVILLAFAN 24
OLAFTAB 24
PETER W 24
TIMBERT VILLA 24
DAVE SHELLEY 23
CHIPSTICKS 18
LEVICO 12
PETE3206 9
LATZ 8
FRANKMOSSWASMYUNCLE 5
TONY ERDINGTON 5
DR BUTLER 3
WESTLEY ARMS AV 3
CYPRUS VILLAIN 2
GARYSHAWSKNEE 2
IRISH COCKNEY 2
SIR LORD BALTIMORE 2
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Thanks Dave, appreciate all your time and effort you put into this!!
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Get in! Thanks DC5 for doing this again. Im off to buy a trophy!
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Cheers DC5.
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Ooooh, promoted!
Thanks, DC5.
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Ooooh, promoted!
Thanks, DC5.
See you in the top flight next year! Many thanks DC5.
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Top stuff DC5. Thanks!
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Very many thanks Jon. I have a local derby against Meanwood next year!
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Ooooh, promoted!
Thanks, DC5.
See you in the top flight next year! Many thanks DC5.
Thanks MV. UTV!
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Cheers DC5 ,See you next season mate
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Division 2 midtable obscurity!!!!
Might have to think long and hard about renewing my season ticket watching me!!!
Promotion push for next season!!
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Cheers DC5. The silk scarves are put away for another season ahead of my well-deserved summer break. I'll be back into pre-season predicting in early July.
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Bloody hell i made the honours board. Many thanks DC5. Nice to be back in the top flight.
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Thanks DC5.
August we go again.
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A late run and I managed to finish seventh. Thanks Jon for organising this, good work as usual
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Awful season, rock bottom and deservedly so!
Down with the Legion, I'm going down with the Legion.
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I fully intend to do a Dingles and carry on on plummeting.
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Thanks DC5, as ever, for all your efforts working this out all season. Many thanks to the iPhone Bingo App too for sorting out the cup draws!
As highest-scorer in Division Three, I assume I qualify for next year's Guess The Crowd Watney Cup?
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Sick as a Parrot, Jon. Sick as a parrot.
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Thanks again DC5, your efforts are appreciated
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HONOURS BOARD
2007 - 2008
League Champion - PENDINE VILLA
2008-2009
Division 1 - Joint Champions - GOALPOSTS4JUMPERS AND ROGFROMB6
Division 2 - Champions - CHARLIE8182
Division 3 - Joint Champions - ARSEY AND EAMONN
Division 4 Champions - MJLIONS
GTC Cup
Winner - VILLAJK
Runner-up - AV82EC
GTC 'Claret and Blue Wedding' League Cup -
Winner - PANTS
Runner-up - GOALPOSTS4JUMPERS
2009 - 2010
GTC 'Claret and Blue Wedding' League Cup -
Winner - GRANDE PABLO
Runner-up - FERGAL
GTC Cup
Winner - JD
Runner-up - COLOMBIAN VILLAIN
Division One Champions - GOALPOSTS4JUMPERS
Division Two Champions - IANB
Division Three Champions - CDVILLAFAN
Division Four Champions - ADS
2010 - 2011
GTC Cup
Winner - GOALPOSTS4JUMPERS
Runner-up - CDVILLAFAN
GTC League Cup -
Winner - GRANDE PABLO
Runner-up - CDVILLAFAN
Division One Champions - CHARLIE 8182
Division Two Champions - ALEXALEXCROPLEY
Division Three Champions - USAV
2011 - 2012
GTC FA Cup
Winner - BC54 VFC
Runner-up - ROTTERDAM
GTC League Cup -
Winner - DAZ VILLAIN
Runner-up - WALMLEY_VILLA
Division One Champions - WALMLEY_VILLA
Division One Runners-Up - DAZ VILLAIN
Division Two Champions - FRANK
Division Two Runners-Up - NICO 2708
Division Three Champions - WOODY 4866
Division Three Runners-Up - LOU'ZIE0
2012 - 2013 SEASON
GTC FA Cup
Winner - LAMBSTEWBERT
Runner-Up - ADVILLAFAN
GTC League Cup
Winner - LAMBSTEWBERT
Runner-up - EXETER77
Division One Champions - LENNY THE KAD
Division One Runners- Up - DAVE CLARK FIVE
Division Two Champions - POOLIGAN
Division Two Runners- Up - SOMEC
Division Three Champions - PGW
Division Three Runners - Up - IRISH VILLAIN
Charity Shield
Winner - LONDON VILLAN
Runner-Up - LENNY THE KAD
2013 - 2014 SEASON
GTC FA Cup
Winner - ADVILLAFAN
Runner-Up - PLUMBUTT COOPER
GTC League Cup
Winner - EASTIE
Runner-Up - PETERWITHESSHIN
Division One Champions - LONDON VILLAN
Division One Runner-Up - CHARLIE8182
Division Two Champions - BENESS
Division Two Runner-Up - LOUZIE0
Division Three Champions - CDBULLYWEEFAN
Division Three Runner-Up - JOHNBOY
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Cheers Jon for all your hard work! "We go again" in August I presume?
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Cheers Jon for all your hard work! "We go again" in August I presume?
Thanks Simon. Next season is dependent on takeover business being concluded. The General is preparing a statement to completely muddy the waters.
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Thank you for all your work with this, DC5. It would be a shame to see it go.
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Thanks as always DC5
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Well done on all your hard work, Jon. Best wishes to you and Pauline for the Summer. Brian.