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Title: Will any of the newboys start against Arsenal [away]
Post by: Loxton01 on August 06, 2013, 09:35:04 AM
Of the players we have signed I cannot see many starting on opening day.

Biggest contenders I would suggest would be Luna and Okore.

Tonev could be a darkhorse ahead of Gabby

Whats everyone think
Title: Re: Will any of the newboys start against Arsenal [away]
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 06, 2013, 09:38:53 AM
Luna I'd say is a 90% chance, Okore about 60%, assuming they're both fit.

Unless any of our other regulars are injured I can't see starts for anyone else.
Title: Re: Will any of the newboys start against Arsenal [away]
Post by: Ron Manager on August 06, 2013, 09:43:38 AM
Luna will more than likely start. The centre back pairing will be Vlaar and Baker. Okore may make an appearance off the bench.
Title: Re: Will any of the newboys start against Arsenal [away]
Post by: ASHTONVILLA on August 06, 2013, 09:55:06 AM
I think Luna will start, and possibly Bacuna who seems to have impressed pre-season. Helenius may get on as a substitute second half.
Title: Re: Will any of the newboys start against Arsenal [away]
Post by: Concrete John on August 06, 2013, 10:00:50 AM
Like most posters so far, I think Tony Moon will start.  After him, I'd class Okore and Bacuna as 50/50 and the rest unlikely.
Title: Re: Will any of the newboys start against Arsenal [away]
Post by: not3bad on August 06, 2013, 10:05:50 AM
Tony Moon will start, Helenius will come on as sub.  The rest will depend on injuries/the form of the current players.
Title: Re: Will any of the newboys start against Arsenal [away]
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on August 06, 2013, 10:10:55 AM
Tony Moon definitely.
Okore possibly.
Bacuna, Tonev, Helenius, Steer all on the bench.
Title: Re: Will any of the newboys start against Arsenal [away]
Post by: Dr Butler on August 06, 2013, 10:18:34 AM
I love that name Tony Moon.....really looking forward to the season and if we can get a positive result at Arsenal it will certainly give us some confidence, and it's time to blow that wanker Mourinho's home record out of the water.

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Title: Re: Will any of the newboys start against Arsenal [away]
Post by: Big Dick Edwards on August 06, 2013, 11:23:18 AM
I'd have thought Luna was a shoe-in.
Okore probably would have been if he hadn't missed so much of pre-season.
Tonev, Bacuna, Steer and Helenius will be on the bench.

Title: Re: Will any of the newboys start against Arsenal [away]
Post by: rob_bridge on August 06, 2013, 11:27:38 AM
Tony Moon definitely.
Okore possibly.
Bacuna, Tonev, Helenius, Steer all on the bench.

Not seen much of pre season action but will be going Saturday - how has Moon done? Better than Bennett?
Title: Re: Will any of the newboys start against Arsenal [away]
Post by: Concrete John on August 06, 2013, 11:33:03 AM
I can see Okore having a very similar season to Westwood last year.  He'll take some time to adapt and get a place in the team, but then be a mainstay and looked at as a VERY good signing. 
Title: Re: Will any of the newboys start against Arsenal [away]
Post by: Big Dick Edwards on August 06, 2013, 11:34:35 AM
Tony Moon definitely.
Okore possibly.
Bacuna, Tonev, Helenius, Steer all on the bench.

Not seen much of pre season action but will be going Saturday - how has Moon done? Better than Bennett?

Yes, though that wouldn't be difficult given most of Bennett's performances last season.
Title: Re: Will any of the newboys start against Arsenal [away]
Post by: john e on August 06, 2013, 11:35:08 AM
why do we call him Tony Moon ?
Title: Re: Will any of the newboys start against Arsenal [away]
Post by: Big Dick Edwards on August 06, 2013, 11:35:46 AM
why do we call him Tony Moon ?

Antonia Luna = Tony Moon
Title: Re: Will any of the newboys start against Arsenal [away]
Post by: darren woolley on August 06, 2013, 11:37:05 AM
Like most of you I agree I think Luna will start.
Title: Re: Will any of the newboys start against Arsenal [away]
Post by: VILLA MOLE on August 06, 2013, 11:37:24 AM
why do we call him Tony Moon ?

Antonia Luna = Tony Moon

are you not bilingual like the rest of us?  ;)
Title: Re: Will any of the newboys start against Arsenal [away]
Post by: john e on August 06, 2013, 11:38:24 AM
why do we call him Tony Moon ?

Antonia Luna = Tony Moon

ok thanks,
its just a play on words then, there is no actual Tony Moon
Title: Re: Will any of the newboys start against Arsenal [away]
Post by: Big Dick Edwards on August 06, 2013, 11:40:27 AM
Luna is the Spanish word for moon. Antonio, Tony.. :o
Title: Re: Will any of the newboys start against Arsenal [away]
Post by: VILLA MOLE on August 06, 2013, 11:40:40 AM
why do we call him Tony Moon ?

Antonia Luna = Tony Moon

ok thanks,
its just a play on words then, there is no actual Tony Moon

bit like terry henry but better
Title: Re: Will any of the newboys start against Arsenal [away]
Post by: john e on August 06, 2013, 11:41:47 AM
why do we call him Tony Moon ?

Antonia Luna = Tony Moon

ok thanks,
its just a play on words then, there is no actual Tony Moon

bit like terry henry but better


it sometimes takes me a while to keep up with the programme
Title: Re: Will any of the newboys start against Arsenal [away]
Post by: VILLA MOLE on August 06, 2013, 12:00:19 PM
why do we call him Tony Moon ?



Antonia Luna = Tony Moon

ok thanks,
its just a play on words then, there is no actual Tony Moon

bit like terry henry but better


it sometimes takes me a while to keep up with the programme

I know it can very high brow on here  :)
Title: Re: Will any of the newboys start against Arsenal [away]
Post by: fredm on August 06, 2013, 12:38:39 PM
Bennett I believe is injured so Luna is the only genuine left back we have who has featured in pre-season. However PL has played Baker there with Clark in the middle for parts of some games so he might be considering this.

I do not believe any of the other new signings are up to speed yet to challenge last seasons squad.  I think he will go with the 3 who played midfield at the end of last season although KEA has been given a fair bit of playing time and has looked half decent.
Title: Re: Will any of the newboys start against Arsenal [away]
Post by: citizenDJ on August 06, 2013, 12:41:36 PM
Assuming everyone is fit, I think we'll start with Okore alongside Vlaar, and with Luna at left back. Beyond that, I think it'll be the same team that finished last season, but with hopefully much better options on the bench.
Title: Re: Will any of the newboys start against Arsenal [away]
Post by: danlanza on August 06, 2013, 12:44:28 PM
Assuming everyone is fit, I think we'll start with Okore alongside Vlaar, and with Luna at left back. Beyond that, I think it'll be the same team that finished last season, but with hopefully much better options on the bench.
This is what i was going to say. This.
Title: Re: Will any of the newboys start against Arsenal [away]
Post by: Salsa Party Animal on August 06, 2013, 01:09:37 PM
I think Okoro and Luna will be in starting XI (if Okoro do well against Malaga) and our bench will be stronger. It is possible we might change one midfilder but doubt we will not stick with Delph, Syvilla and Westwood
Title: Re: Will any of the newboys start against Arsenal [away]
Post by: Concrete John on August 06, 2013, 01:15:53 PM
Not picking specifially on SPA here, but I've seen it a few times now and am wondering if Okoro is the new Clarke?
Title: Re: Will any of the newboys start against Arsenal [away]
Post by: Summers on August 06, 2013, 01:46:27 PM
Luna definitely. Okore possibly would have, had the injury not occurred. Baker will start instead, and soon enough Okore will be first choice with Vlaar. Bacuna could start in midfield maybe, Lambo has been impressed.
Title: Re: Will any of the newboys start against Arsenal [away]
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on August 06, 2013, 01:56:03 PM
Tony Moon definitely.
Okore possibly.
Bacuna, Tonev, Helenius, Steer all on the bench.

Not seen much of pre season action but will be going Saturday - how has Moon done? Better than Bennett?

Yes, though that wouldn't be difficult given most of Bennett's performances last season.
Tony Moon's done good - so far!
Good going forward and likes to get to his man early. Bit suspect once oppo has the ball and is running at him; seems to let them cut inside a bit to easily.
But Bennett is injured; I think Baker will be at CB, so Tony to start.
Title: Re: Will any of the newboys start against Arsenal [away]
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on August 06, 2013, 02:21:28 PM
Suppose if Weimann or Gabby get injured, then Tonev may come straight into the team too.
Title: Re: Will any of the newboys start against Arsenal [away]
Post by: Titus Aduxus on August 06, 2013, 02:37:38 PM
With the left back situation is Edna Stevens likely to feature?
Title: Re: Will any of the newboys start against Arsenal [away]
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on August 06, 2013, 03:10:47 PM
With the left back situation is Edna Stevens likely to feature?
Doubtful. I thought PL might give him a run-out in the Shamrock Rovers game which would have sent a positive signal out, but...
Title: Re: Will any of the newboys start against Arsenal [away]
Post by: not3bad on August 06, 2013, 03:26:59 PM
It's the Enda the road for Stevens.
Title: Re: Will any of the newboys start against Arsenal [away]
Post by: PaulWinch again on August 06, 2013, 03:28:05 PM
I think Luna almost certainly, Okore hopefully if fit, and then possibly Bacuna.
Title: Re: Will any of the newboys start against Arsenal [away]
Post by: davisa on August 06, 2013, 04:05:49 PM
            Guzan
Lowton, Okore, Vlaar, Luna
   Westwood, Delph
Weimann, Tonev, Gabby
           Benteke

(Sorry Sylla although i do love you we need creativity bigtime).
Title: Re: Will any of the newboys start against Arsenal [away]
Post by: not3bad on August 06, 2013, 04:28:58 PM
We need Sylla to bolster the defence against Arsenal. 
Title: Re: Will any of the newboys start against Arsenal [away]
Post by: davisa on August 06, 2013, 04:33:30 PM
you might be right but i'm struggling to think who we could sacrifice... Delph has the ability to get forward from his holding role and cause problems with his dribbling, Westwood for me has to play because of his calm and collective approach, and simply because he doesn't give the ball away.  I think Okore will start, Lambert isn't afraid to take risks and Luna if fit has to play he's head and shoulders above Bennett
Title: Re: Will any of the newboys start against Arsenal [away]
Post by: Concrete John on August 06, 2013, 04:34:36 PM
We need Sylla to bolster the defence against Arsenal.

Yep.  I'd be cautious for this first game and go with the dependable three of Sylla, Delph and Westwood that worked well the send of last season.
Title: Re: Will any of the newboys start against Arsenal [away]
Post by: fredm on August 06, 2013, 04:38:05 PM
Unless Tonev plays for 60+ minutes against Malaga and shows he is up to speed then I think it is highly unlikely that he will start against Arsenal.  These new players need to be brought in sparingly IMO not dropped in the deep end and possibly set them back a few months.  We have the nucleus from last season so we just need to keep adding to that bit by bit.
Title: Re: Will any of the newboys start against Arsenal [away]
Post by: GordonCowansisthegreatest on August 06, 2013, 04:40:49 PM
I think that the starting 11 against Malaga will more than likely be his first choice, unless he wants to confuse Wenger.
Title: Re: Will any of the newboys start against Arsenal [away]
Post by: Big Dick Edwards on August 06, 2013, 04:48:05 PM
The team that finished last season were playing decent stuff, particularly the midfield and attack. That team pretty much deserves to start the new season and as Fredm says, integrate the new boys slowly.
Title: Re: Will any of the newboys start against Arsenal [away]
Post by: olaftab on August 07, 2013, 10:57:06 AM
            Guzan
Lowton, Okore, Vlaar, Luna
   Westwood, Delph
Weimann, Tonev, Gabby
           Benteke

(Sorry Sylla although i do love you we need creativity bigtime).
No Sylla has to play at Arsenal. Swap Tonev for Sylla and we have a team.
Title: Re: Will any of the newboys start against Arsenal [away]
Post by: Clampy on August 07, 2013, 11:00:46 AM
I've got a feeling he'll start with Luna and Okore if he's fit and the rest of the team will be as last season.
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