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Title: Six fixtures arranged to mark the Football League's 125th anniversary.
Post by: Desi on June 18, 2013, 01:27:35 PM
Burnley will entertain Bolton on the opening weekend of the new season, 3-4 August, as one of six games to mark the Football League's 125th anniversary.

Burnley and neighbours Bolton are two of the Football League's 12 founder clubs, while the Clarets' Turf Moor home is one of only three grounds still in use that hosted matches during the first season.

Derby, Blackburn, Wolverhampton, Preston and Notts County are also among the 12 founder members of the competition, the idea for which started to take shape on 2 March 1888.

It was on that date that William McGregor, then secretary of Aston Villa, sent out a letter suggesting "that 10 or 12 of the most prominent clubs in England combine to arrange home and away fixtures each season".

Two weeks later, a meeting took place at Anderton's Hotel on Fleet Street in London to discuss the idea and the plans began to be made for the 1888-89 season, which was won by an undefeated Preston


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22894378 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22894378)
Title: Re: Six fixtures arranged to mark the Football League's 125th anniversary.
Post by: eastie on June 18, 2013, 01:33:47 PM
Prefer albion rather than everton or stoke on the opening day .
Title: Re: Six fixtures arranged to mark the Football League's 125th anniversary.
Post by: Meanwood Villa on June 18, 2013, 01:38:21 PM
We're no longer members of the Football League so we're not involved.
Title: Re: Six fixtures arranged to mark the Football League's 125th anniversary.
Post by: eastie on June 18, 2013, 01:40:16 PM
We're no longer members of the Football League so we're not involved.

Maybe would be nice for stoke everton , villa and Albion to be paired up on the opening day though  as mcgregor was a big part in our history .
Title: Re: Six fixtures arranged to mark the Football League's 125th anniversary.
Post by: Ads on June 18, 2013, 01:41:48 PM
I think a better way to mark the occassion would be to play the Albion on the last day of the season to mark their return to the football league.
Title: Re: Six fixtures arranged to mark the Football League's 125th anniversary.
Post by: Dr Butler on June 18, 2013, 01:42:56 PM
I think a better way to mark the occassion would be to play the Albion on the last day of the season to mark their return to the football league.

oh yes please...
Title: Re: Six fixtures arranged to mark the Football League's 125th anniversary.
Post by: eastie on June 18, 2013, 01:44:09 PM
I think a better way to mark the occassion would be to play the Albion on the last day of the season to mark their return to the football league.

I certainly think they will struggle next season .
Title: Re: Six fixtures arranged to mark the Football League's 125th anniversary.
Post by: Clampy on June 18, 2013, 01:50:26 PM
I think a better way to mark the occassion would be to play the Albion on the last day of the season to mark their return to the football league.

That would be lovely.
Title: Re: Six fixtures arranged to mark the Football League's 125th anniversary.
Post by: Concrete John on June 18, 2013, 01:53:51 PM
Is it confirmed that the PL is ignoring this or are they just keeping it under wraps until the fixtures are released tomorrow?
Title: Re: Six fixtures arranged to mark the Football League's 125th anniversary.
Post by: ozzjim on June 18, 2013, 01:58:18 PM
Quite a lot of talk on Twitter that we will have Everton first up. After playing Martinez' Wigan last game, and his first game in charge of Wigan was against us, he has a bit of history with our great club. I hope we beat him for once if true!
Title: Re: Six fixtures arranged to mark the Football League's 125th anniversary.
Post by: eastie on June 18, 2013, 02:00:09 PM
Is it confirmed that the PL is ignoring this or are they just keeping it under wraps until the fixtures are released tomorrow?

No idea, the report mentions 6 games though
Title: Re: Six fixtures arranged to mark the Football League's 125th anniversary.
Post by: Concrete John on June 18, 2013, 02:11:26 PM
Is it confirmed that the PL is ignoring this or are they just keeping it under wraps until the fixtures are released tomorrow?

No idea, the report mentions 6 games though and the 7 other original teams can only play in 4 football league games as the other 4 clubs are in the premiership.

OK, is anyone else scratching their head at that?

Eastie - it takes two teams to play a game, so if their are 6 fixtures that would count for all 12 founding clubs.
Title: Re: Six fixtures arranged to mark the Football League's 125th anniversary.
Post by: markus209 on June 18, 2013, 02:12:27 PM
I don't think the premiership is involved in this. The 6 games they mention according the the website are;

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Anniversary Fixture Programme:

Championship

Burnley v Bolton Wanderers
Derby County v Blackburn Rovers

League 1

Preston North End v Wolverhampton Wanderers
Sheffield United v Notts County

League 2

Newport County v Accrington Stanley
Rochdale v Hartlepool United


http://fl125.co.uk/anniversary-fixtures
Title: Re: Six fixtures arranged to mark the Football League's 125th anniversary.
Post by: eastie on June 18, 2013, 02:25:27 PM
Is it confirmed that the PL is ignoring this or are they just keeping it under wraps until the fixtures are released tomorrow?



No idea, the report mentions 6 games though and the 7 other original teams can only play in 4 football league games as the other 4 clubs are in the premiership.

OK, is anyone else scratching their head at that?

Eastie - it takes two teams to play a game, so if their are 6 fixtures that would count for all 12 founding clubs.

Notts co and accrington can't pair up so i guess their individual  games make the 5 in that case, Rochdale v hartlepool is odd though.
Title: Re: Six fixtures arranged to mark the Football League's 125th anniversary.
Post by: ktvillan on June 18, 2013, 02:27:09 PM
The League 2 ones are a bit strange since none of those mentioned were founder members.
Title: Re: Six fixtures arranged to mark the Football League's 125th anniversary.
Post by: hipkiss92 on June 18, 2013, 02:33:12 PM
The League 2 ones are a bit strange since none of those mentioned were founder members.

Rochdale Hartlepool is the most played FL fixture and Newport Accrington Stanley is the newest member v a 'founder member'
Title: Re: Six fixtures arranged to mark the Football League's 125th anniversary.
Post by: paul_e on June 18, 2013, 02:38:57 PM
Clearly there's nothing announced for the premier league fixtures but I'd hope they do the decent thing and make 2 matches involving us, wba, everton and stoke on the opening day.  It seems weird to celebrate the anniversary of the league being created with the 2 most successful founder clubs not being involved, Villa vs Everton just feels right for this.

The worry is that football actually began in 91 so sky and premier league see nothing to celebrate, I hope not though.
Title: Re: Six fixtures arranged to mark the Football League's 125th anniversary.
Post by: mal on June 18, 2013, 02:47:38 PM
The worry is that football actually began in 91 so sky and premier league see nothing to celebrate, I hope not though.
We were second then, too.
Title: Re: Six fixtures arranged to mark the Football League's 125th anniversary.
Post by: bertlambshank on June 18, 2013, 03:31:49 PM
It can't by Stoke away first up,thats boxing day 8.00pm.
Title: Re: Six fixtures arranged to mark the Football League's 125th anniversary.
Post by: ktvillan on June 18, 2013, 03:44:45 PM
The League 2 ones are a bit strange since none of those mentioned were founder members.

Rochdale Hartlepool is the most played FL fixture and Newport Accrington Stanley is the newest member v a 'founder member'

Neither Newport nor Accrington Stanley were founder members.
Title: Re: Six fixtures arranged to mark the Football League's 125th anniversary.
Post by: eastie on June 18, 2013, 03:48:46 PM
The twelve original members were Accrington, Aston Villa, Blackburn Rovers, Bolton Wanderers, Burnley, Derby County, Everton, Notts County, Preston North End, Stoke, West Bromwich Albion and Wolverhampton Wanderers who agreed to play a twenty-two game format whereby each team would host each of their eleven rivals once with two points awarded for a win and one point awarded for a drawn game. The team with most points at the completion of the season would be declared Champions of England while the team with the fewest points would be forced to seek re-election to the league for the following season.
Title: Re: Six fixtures arranged to mark the Football League's 125th anniversary.
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on June 18, 2013, 03:51:34 PM
The League 2 ones are a bit strange since none of those mentioned were founder members.

Rochdale Hartlepool is the most played FL fixture and Newport Accrington Stanley is the newest member v a 'founder member'

Neither Newport nor Accrington Stanley were founder members.

No, but Accrington were. Newport are playing them as they're the newest members of the football league (and technically a different side from the one that was in the Football League previously).
Title: Re: Six fixtures arranged to mark the Football League's 125th anniversary.
Post by: ktvillan on June 18, 2013, 03:57:42 PM
The League 2 ones are a bit strange since none of those mentioned were founder members.


Rochdale Hartlepool is the most played FL fixture and Newport Accrington Stanley is the newest member v a 'founder member'

Neither Newport nor Accrington Stanley were founder members.

No, but Accrington were. Newport are playing them as they're the newest members of the football league (and technically a different side from the one that was in the Football League previously).


Er, so like I said, no founder members involved.
Title: Re: Six fixtures arranged to mark the Football League's 125th anniversary.
Post by: hipkiss92 on June 18, 2013, 04:06:47 PM
The League 2 ones are a bit strange since none of those mentioned were founder members.


Rochdale Hartlepool is the most played FL fixture and Newport Accrington Stanley is the newest member v a 'founder member'

Neither Newport nor Accrington Stanley were founder members.

No, but Accrington were. Newport are playing them as they're the newest members of the football league (and technically a different side from the one that was in the Football League previously).


Er, so like I said, no founder members involved.

Which is why I put founder members in inverted commas, they're not actually founder members, but it seems the FL are using them as a continuation to celebrate the 125th anniversary
Title: Re: Six fixtures arranged to mark the Football League's 125th anniversary.
Post by: cdbearsfan on June 18, 2013, 04:16:29 PM
Accrington Stanley have been picked presumably to commemorate the fact that a team from Accrington (albeit, not them) were founder members. Newport have been picked as the newest team.

Neither Rochdale or Hartlepool were founder members, however Rochdale v Hartlepool (and vice versa) is apparently the most-played game among current Football League teams. That is the stated reason why that game has been picked.
Title: Re: Six fixtures arranged to mark the Football League's 125th anniversary.
Post by: LeeS on June 21, 2013, 02:49:29 PM
Accrington Stanley have been picked presumably to commemorate the fact that a team from Accrington (albeit, not them) were founder members. Newport have been picked as the newest team.

Neither Rochdale or Hartlepool were founder members, however Rochdale v Hartlepool (and vice versa) is apparently the most-played game among current Football League teams. That is the stated reason why that game has been picked.

What a spurious reason to play an anniversary game. Why not pick the team with the tallest floodlights or the club that has used the most bog roll since inception. I'm all for celebrating longevity and achievement, but this is just wank.
Title: Re: Six fixtures arranged to mark the Football League's 125th anniversary.
Post by: Damo70 on June 22, 2013, 01:39:01 PM
The League 2 ones are a bit strange since none of those mentioned were founder members.

Rochdale Hartlepool is the most played FL fixture and Newport Accrington Stanley is the newest member v a 'founder member'

Aah, the legendary Rochdale/Hartlepool fixture. Top of my bucket list ahead of Barcelona/Real Madrid, Celtic/Rangers and Boca/River Plate.
Title: Re: Six fixtures arranged to mark the Football League's 125th anniversary.
Post by: Mortimer's Bear on June 23, 2013, 01:37:08 PM
I think a better way to mark the occassion would be to play the Albion on the last day of the season to mark their return to the football league.

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