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Heroes & Villains => Villa Memories => Topic started by: supertom on June 03, 2013, 12:30:13 PM

Title: Mark Draper.
Post by: supertom on June 03, 2013, 12:30:13 PM
Anyone who had AVTV, he's been interviewed on it apparently. They mentioned he has a new role at the club, but I wondered what that was.

That aside, where do we stand on Drapes? For me, good player. His first two seasons he was very good. Helped keep us ticking over nicely. He seemed to fall out with Gregory when he took over though. He's one of those players who kind of gets overlooked a lot when thinking back, obviously he was in a midfield with Taylor, Villa through and through, and Townsend who was great for us, so that's part of it. He was pretty consistent though so I'm pretty glad to see him back at the club in some manor.
Title: Re: Mark Draper.
Post by: Damo70 on June 03, 2013, 12:36:19 PM
I'm pretty sure that the last time I heard about him, which was fairly recently, he was kit man at Notts County.
Title: Re: Mark Draper.
Post by: Concrete John on June 03, 2013, 12:45:49 PM
Always liked him as a player.  He wasn't the ball winner or attacker in midfield though, at a time when you sort of needed to be one or the other to get noticed.  Good continuity player and worked well in a three man midfield.
Title: Re: Mark Draper.
Post by: Ads on June 03, 2013, 01:11:57 PM
He wasn't the player I thought he was going to be after that 4-4 draw against Leicester at Villa Park.
Title: Re: Mark Draper.
Post by: Merv on June 03, 2013, 01:17:29 PM
I really liked Draper for the first couple of seasons; then he seemed to go off the boil and retreat into a midfield player who just passed sideways most of the time - lost his edge when Little left, I think. His career went downhill fast once he left us.

Remember him scoring a cracker v Peterborough in the League Cup; I was a year into my first journalism job, covering sport for a Peterborough weekly and I was in the press box for the game at VP. In front of me were two reporters from the bigger daily paper in P'Boro. Think it was 0-0 for the opening 20 mins or so. They were getting very smug about Peterborough 'holding mighty Villa'.

Villa won a free-kick about 25 yards out, and Draper went to take it. 'Of course, any Premier League player worth their salt would put this in, easily,' they were saying, no doubt ready for Draper to miss and then for them to be able to scoff about it.

The ball was touched back to Draper, who flicked it into the air and then met it in on the volley, straight in.

'A bit like that, gents?' I said.

Villa won the game 6-0.

Title: Re: Mark Draper.
Post by: eamonn on June 03, 2013, 01:23:19 PM
It all began to unravel for him when he bleached his thinning hair in the summer of 1997. Popular in the dressing room for being a bit of a thicko wasn't he? Was always quite fond of him. Not sure if it was a case of never fulfilling his potential or his Leicester form was him over-achieving.
Title: Re: Mark Draper.
Post by: Concrete John on June 03, 2013, 01:25:28 PM
I remember that Peterborough game and the free kick in particular.  Wasn't there some debate as to whether it was legal or not afterwards?

We seemed to try quite a few clever things that season with free kicks, as opposed to some just having a direct pop at goal.
Title: Re: Mark Draper.
Post by: Ads on June 03, 2013, 01:56:09 PM
It was Townsend who flicked it up. There was some talk about the need for the ball to roll the whole of its circumference otherwise it would need to be re-taken.

I don’t know if that was/is a rule though.
Title: Re: Mark Draper.
Post by: Concrete John on June 03, 2013, 02:01:57 PM
That was it.  I think the reason it stood was the actual rule was 'travel', so slthough it didn't roll/spin/rotate from Townsend's flick, it did travel the required distance before someone else had a touch.
Title: Re: Mark Draper.
Post by: tomd2103 on June 03, 2013, 02:37:43 PM
It all began to unravel for him when he bleached his thinning hair in the summer of 1997. Popular in the dressing room for being a bit of a thicko wasn't he? Was always quite fond of him. Not sure if it was a case of never fulfilling his potential or his Leicester form was him over-achieving.

Title: Re: Mark Draper.
Post by: bertlambshank on June 03, 2013, 03:40:26 PM
His new job is the coach driver.
That way we will never lose.
Title: Re: Mark Draper.
Post by: Damo70 on June 03, 2013, 03:42:54 PM
Didn't he move to Southampton but then get a serious injury not long afterwards?
Title: Re: Mark Draper.
Post by: eamonn on June 03, 2013, 09:35:38 PM
Before he went to Saints we sent him on-loan to Rayo Vallecano. In order to be understood at training he looked-up a few words useful for football in the Spanish dictionary. Cue puzzled bewilderment when he kept shouting at his team mates "Permiso, permiso!" - the word for pass - the permit/license type of pass that is.
Title: Re: Mark Draper.
Post by: eric woolban woolban on June 03, 2013, 09:41:27 PM
Before he went to Saints we sent him on-loan to Rayo Vallecano. In order to be understood at training he looked-up a few words useful for football in the Spanish dictionary. Cue puzzled bewilderment when he kept shouting at his team mates "Permiso, permiso!" - the word for pass - the permit/license type of pass that is.

LOL seems to be the thickest footballer until Jonathan Woodgate took his crown.

Still he made a shed load more money than me, so fair play to you Drapes.
Title: Re: Mark Draper.
Post by: newtonsballs on June 03, 2013, 09:50:28 PM
He had a crazy laugh and wasn't his nickname 'Plug' (Bash Street Kids)?
Title: Re: Mark Draper.
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 03, 2013, 09:59:19 PM
I really liked Draper for the first couple of seasons; then he seemed to go off the boil and retreat into a midfield player who just passed sideways most of the time - lost his edge when Little left, I think. His career went downhill fast once he left us.

Remember him scoring a cracker v Peterborough in the League Cup; I was a year into my first journalism job, covering sport for a Peterborough weekly and I was in the press box for the game at VP. In front of me were two reporters from the bigger daily paper in P'Boro. Think it was 0-0 for the opening 20 mins or so. They were getting very smug about Peterborough 'holding mighty Villa'.

Villa won a free-kick about 25 yards out, and Draper went to take it. 'Of course, any Premier League player worth their salt would put this in, easily,' they were saying, no doubt ready for Draper to miss and then for them to be able to scoff about it.

The ball was touched back to Draper, who flicked it into the air and then met it in on the volley, straight in.

'A bit like that, gents?' I said.

Villa won the game 6-0.


That game was crazy, didn't we get 2 penalties and they had a couple of players sent off? I also remember their fans starting to play up a bit as the goals kept going in.
Title: Re: Mark Draper.
Post by: Deano's Mullet on June 04, 2013, 05:03:02 AM
Remember his goal at Ipswich? A stunner. Also two goals on Boxing Day one year in a 4-1 demolition of Spurs yet Stan The Undeserving Man got all the headlines for scoring a brace as well. Draper was brilliant in 95/96, decent enough the following year without ever troubling the goalscoring charts and fairly average for the remainder of his career. Winter 1995 he looked a shoe in for the England squad, never got in and never flirted with it again whilst the unfancied Southgate nipped in ahead of him and never looked back
Title: Re: Mark Draper.
Post by: Brend'Watkins on June 04, 2013, 09:40:17 AM
If I remember correctly he was in very good form and started to get mentioned as a possible England player.  It all went downhill after that.  My only memory of him is that he was steady player.
Title: Re: Mark Draper.
Post by: supertom on July 01, 2013, 05:05:39 PM
If I remember correctly he was in very good form and started to get mentioned as a possible England player.  It all went downhill after that.  My only memory of him is that he was steady player.
Did he not make a squad once (or a provisional squad) along with his mini-me, Alan Wright?
Title: Re: Mark Draper.
Post by: Mortimer's Bear on July 02, 2013, 09:24:31 AM
My abiding memory of Mark Drapers Villa career (aside from the stupid blonde hair-do), is somewhat underwhelming.
Title: Re: Mark Draper.
Post by: Pete3206 on July 03, 2013, 08:56:53 PM
The best game I ever saw him at VP was the 4-4 draw against Leicester. Unfortunately, he was playing for them.
Title: Re: Mark Draper.
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 04, 2013, 02:30:50 PM
Before he went to Saints we sent him on-loan to Rayo Vallecano. In order to be understood at training he looked-up a few words useful for football in the Spanish dictionary. Cue puzzled bewilderment when he kept shouting at his team mates "Permiso, permiso!" - the word for pass - the permit/license type of pass that is.

LOL seems to be the thickest footballer until Jonathan Woodgate took his crown.

Woodgate you may recall, moved to Real Madrid and was highly rated by their fans but he always seemed to be suffering from a thigh injury. It obviously gave him lots of free time and amazing as it may seem, he was fluent in Castellano.

I always liked Draper, clever footballer when he put his mind to it. As mentioned above, it all started to go wrong for him once he started plating about with his hair colour.
Title: Re: Mark Draper.
Post by: Grande Pablo on July 18, 2013, 12:38:57 AM
Draper was 'seeing' Mrs Pablo before I met her in late 1995 for a couple of weeks.  He was a tool, & she was trying to let him down gently.
Title: Re: Mark Draper.
Post by: geeeenius1971 on August 06, 2013, 11:14:33 PM
I know a man who worked with his brother and everyone says was the better player but Mark had the determination and application to learn when he was younger
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