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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: pauliewalnuts on May 24, 2013, 07:12:05 PM

Title: ?% Villa - managers who won the European Cup
Post by: pauliewalnuts on May 24, 2013, 07:12:05 PM
Randomly thinking today, having watched that thing with Lambert talking about his EC win as a player on Sky last night, we have had three managers who have won the European Cup as players.

I was wondering, which English clubs have more? And if there are any, how many of them had managers who won it with clubs other than themselves?

EDIT - I just worked out that Newcastle who can beat us - Keegan, Souness, Dalglish, Gullit and Terry McDermott. Impressively so, as more than one of theirs won it multiple times, and with different clubs.
Title: Re: ?% Villa - managers who won the European Cup
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on May 24, 2013, 07:25:31 PM
Man City have had a few, if you include caretakers.

Kidd, McNeill, Clark, Neal, Keegan

Edit - Blackburn have had Sounness, Dalglish, Berg and Kiddo
Title: Re: ?% Villa - managers who won the European Cup
Post by: supertom on May 24, 2013, 07:56:38 PM
Wycombe Wanderers have had two. They'll be tough to match from the lower leagues I'd imagine.
Title: Re: ?% Villa - managers who won the European Cup
Post by: Damo70 on May 24, 2013, 10:00:42 PM
Swansea spring to mind. Laudrup won it with Barcelona, Sousa won it with Juventus and Jimmy Rimmer has two winners medals and was their caretaker manager. Also John Toshack, who may or may not have been in the final squads for Liverpool in '77 or '78, but definitely played a part somewhere along the line.
Title: Re: ?% Villa - managers who won the European Cup
Post by: claretandbeer on May 25, 2013, 11:55:22 PM
As an aside,Villa have had 4 keepers who have played in European Cup finals .Rimmer,Spink and Schmeichel on the winning side and a losers medal for  which keeper who played for us ?
Title: Re: ?% Villa - managers who won the European Cup
Post by: Tokyo Sexwhale on May 26, 2013, 12:08:01 AM
Stuart Taylor?
Title: Re: ?% Villa - managers who won the European Cup
Post by: claretandbeer on May 26, 2013, 12:15:14 AM
Good shout but no,the goalkeeper who played for us played the whole 90 minutes in the final
Title: Re: ?% Villa - managers who won the European Cup
Post by: dave.woodhall on May 26, 2013, 12:22:27 AM
Evan Williams.
Title: Re: ?% Villa - managers who won the European Cup
Post by: Steve R on May 26, 2013, 12:27:17 AM
Evan Williams. Played for Celtic when they lost the final in the early seventies.
Title: Re: ?% Villa - managers who won the European Cup
Post by: ktvillan on May 26, 2013, 12:46:35 AM
Wycombe Wanderers have had two. They'll be tough to match from the lower leagues I'd imagine.

Preston have had three.
Title: Re: ?% Villa - managers who won the European Cup
Post by: Dave Cooper please on May 26, 2013, 10:14:49 AM
It's nothing special, even Tamworth have had one.
Title: Re: ?% Villa - managers who won the European Cup
Post by: villa kicks on May 26, 2013, 12:32:18 PM
It's nothing special, even Tamworth have had one.

exactly as does Plymouth as calibre of player doesn't always match manager skills.  Shilton for the record.
If people are mentioning Kidd then its 5 for Bolton (Inc temp takers) Lee, Neal, Dunne, Mcgovern and Irwin.

 And i think we had Allan Evans. So that makes 4 for villa!
Title: Re: ?% Villa - managers who won the European Cup
Post by: Damo70 on May 26, 2013, 12:34:20 PM
Wycombe Wanderers have had two. They'll be tough to match from the lower leagues I'd imagine.

Preston have had three.

Rotherham had two at once when McGovern and Gemmill were joint managers. I am struggling to think of Preston's third after Charlton and Stiles.
Title: Re: ?% Villa - managers who won the European Cup
Post by: PGW on May 26, 2013, 12:35:39 PM
Wasnt Beckham on loan at Preston
Title: Re: ?% Villa - managers who won the European Cup
Post by: villa kicks on May 26, 2013, 01:03:26 PM
Wycombe Wanderers have had two. They'll be tough to match from the lower leagues I'd imagine.

Preston have had three.

Rotherham had two at once when McGovern and Gemmill were joint managers. I am struggling to think of Preston's third after Charlton and Stiles.

he scored for man u in '68...
Title: Re: ?% Villa - managers who won the European Cup
Post by: Damo70 on May 26, 2013, 01:07:50 PM
Kidd? Also, who is the Irwin who managed Bolton? Dennis? Colin?
Title: Re: ?% Villa - managers who won the European Cup
Post by: PGW on May 26, 2013, 01:10:22 PM
With Brian Kidd plus Beckhams 5 games for PNE makes four
Title: Re: ?% Villa - managers who won the European Cup
Post by: villa kicks on May 26, 2013, 01:12:20 PM
Wasnt Beckham on loan at Preston

yes he did but no need what so ever to bring him into this thread.
Grayson managed Preston he played for villa. David moyes could win the champ league with Man Utd and he managed Preston both irrelevant but more substance and sense than bringing Beckham into the thread. No need to deflect discussion if you are struggling to be involved *sighs*   
Title: Re: ?% Villa - managers who won the European Cup
Post by: villa kicks on May 26, 2013, 01:17:01 PM
Kidd? Also, who is the Irwin who managed Bolton? Dennis? Colin?

ahh hello mate. Yes kidd. And col Irwin was with forest lot under cloughy
Title: Re: ?% Villa - managers who won the European Cup
Post by: Damo70 on May 26, 2013, 01:24:33 PM
Colin Irwin was Liverpool and Swansea. Possibly a sub for Liverpool in '81? Didn't know he managed Bolton though.
Title: Re: ?% Villa - managers who won the European Cup
Post by: villa kicks on May 26, 2013, 01:43:20 PM
Yes Clark is who i was thinking re forest! I dont know Irwin but he was some temp role for Bolton. 
Title: Re: ?% Villa - managers who won the European Cup
Post by: cdbearsfan on May 26, 2013, 07:51:41 PM
Clyde have had two.
Title: Re: ?% Villa - managers who won the European Cup
Post by: PGW on May 26, 2013, 11:48:54 PM
Wasnt Beckham on loan at Preston

yes he did but no need what so ever to bring him into this thread.
Grayson managed Preston he played for villa. David moyes could win the champ league with Man Utd and he managed Preston both irrelevant but more substance and sense than bringing Beckham into the thread. No need to deflect discussion if you are struggling to be involved *sighs*   
What the fuck is this bollocks if Beckham played for Preston then it counts surely....so what is wrong with bringing him into this thread....and the shit about needing to deflect discussion!!!!!
Title: Re: ?% Villa - managers who won the European Cup
Post by: dave.woodhall on May 26, 2013, 11:53:47 PM
Please desist.
Title: Re: ?% Villa - managers who won the European Cup
Post by: ozzjim on May 26, 2013, 11:55:11 PM
When was Beckham a manager of Preston! That is why there is no need to bring him into this thread!

Did Davids win it, now non league with Barnet?
Title: Re: ?% Villa - managers who won the European Cup
Post by: PGW on May 26, 2013, 11:59:48 PM
Apologies boss!!!
Title: Re: ?% Villa - managers who won the European Cup
Post by: Karlos96 on May 27, 2013, 12:17:36 AM
When was Beckham a manager of Preston! That is why there is no need to bring him into this thread!

Did Davids win it, now non league with Barnet?

He did he won it in 95 with that great Ajax side that was ripped to bits following the Bosman ruling.
Title: Re: ?% Villa - managers who won the European Cup
Post by: ktvillan on May 28, 2013, 12:53:52 PM
Preston had Charlton, Stiles and also Kidd for a short while in 1986.
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