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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Legion on May 19, 2013, 02:31:05 PM
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That is awesome! Assume photo-shop?
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No, the masks awaiting the away fans were supplied by an anonymous donor ready for Petrov day.
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That is brilliant. Wish I was there!
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That is brilliant.
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Love it. Should be a great day whatever happens on the pitch.
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Love it.
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Great touch by whoever did the masks.
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Great touch by whoever did the masks.
Seems something of a mask-arade to me.
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Bent in for Benteke.
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I've seen the OS advertising that people could buy a Petrov mask at the club shop. Bit odd if it had already been pre-arranged.
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Guzan, Lowton, Vlaar [c], Baker, Bennett, Westwood, Delph, Sylla, Weimann, Agbonlahor, Bent.
subs: Given, El Ahmadi, Dawkins, Gardner, Bowery, N’Zogbia, Herd.
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Is Benty in then or is it Bowery/N'Zog?
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Hope Bent goes out with a bang, come on Villa do this to celebrate for Stan as well.
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Great touch by whoever did the masks.
Seems something of a mask-arade to me.
Yes, they were donated by http://www.mask-arade.com/
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Bent gets a send-off, and Gardner's made it to the bench. This is a nice way to finish off. Make it a win lads!
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I'd like Gardner to get on the pitch at some stage.
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Excellent, Bent hattrick followed by a second half gardener freekick pearler. Great way to end the season.
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No Bannan nor Lichaj. Presumably, they will be off in the summer.
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I think N'Zog's going to be made available for transfer. If he was in PL's plans you would have thought he would have put Gabby up top and N'Zog out wide.
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Happy Bent starts, score a few today and he should be hot property in the transfer window as well as giving us a chance to shoot up to 11th.
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Nice to see Bent start for two reasons. Firstly it will be nice to see him sign off with a goal (or three). Secondly, a good display will help him find a new buyer and help us get a decent fee for him. I'm a bit suprised Carruthers isn't in the squad. I take it that Lambert just doesn't rate him. Or doesn't like his attitude maybe.
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Where do people think we will finish in the league today then? I'm going for 12th.
I fancy us, Man Citeh, Arsenal, Swansea and Spurs all to win. Maybe a draw between Swansea and Fulham. Saints will have too much for Stoke though.
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Good to see KEA on the bench. Also, young Herd - I presume he is cover at RB, since Eric is not on the bench.
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Bent in for Benteke.
Eke out-Bent in?
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Where do people think we will finish in the league today then? I'm going for 12th.
I fancy us, Man Citeh, Arsenal, Swansea and Spurs all to win. Maybe a draw between Swansea and Fulham. Saints will have too much for Stoke though.
Agree 12th !
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Bent in for Benteke.
Eke out-Bent in?
Eke suspended.
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If Stoke and Soton draw, there is a good chance we'll finish 11th. I'll go for 12th as well though. As it is unlikely every other result will go our way (like they did on the final day of the 10/11 season).
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Hope Bent goes out with a bang, come on Villa do this to celebrate for Stan as well.
I just hope Bent puts a shift in. The others know what it's all about.
That mask company from Coventry deserve big thanks, seeing stan's face there is brilliant.
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Really wish I was there. Presumably this will be Bent's last match for us, unless Benteke goes. I'm going for 4-1 Villa with a Bent hatrick.
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Really wish I was there. Presumably this will be Bent's last match for us, unless Benteke goes. I'm going for 4-1 Villa with a Bent hatrick.
It'll be his last game regardless of whether Benteke goes you'd think.
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Great touch by whoever did the masks.
Seems something of a mask-arade to me.
Yes, they were donated by http://www.mask-arade.com/
Some other good masks there. I suggest using the Eastenders one for when Stephen Ireland plays his final game.
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Bit of a strange bench. Dawkins and Herd will likely be off and have barely been involved all year. Doesn't look great for Bannan and Lichaj.
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Bit of a strange bench. Dawkins and Herd will likely be off and have barely been involved all year. Doesn't look great for Bannan and Lichaj.
Good luck to them.
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No Holman either and he has made a couple of sub appearances lately.
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Unless Bannan is injured it looks pretty grim for him too. Dawkins ahead of him on the bench.
Wouldn't surprise me if it's the last we see of Herd too.
Carruthers fell foul of the 'no mobiles' rule. Not quite the same as being photographed spreadeagled in a casino covered in banknotes, but I do wonder if he is being given a hard time.
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Dawkins and Herd will likely be off and have barely been involved all year. Doesn't look great for Bannan and Lichaj.
Herd has been injured but before that he was playing, just ask Paul Winge Again. ;)
I'm delighted to see him back.
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Unless Bannan is injured it looks pretty grim for him too. Dawkins ahead of him on the bench.
Wouldn't surprise me if it's the last we see of Herd too.
Carruthers fell foul of the 'no mobiles' rule. Not quite the same as being photographed spreadeagled in a casino covered in banknotes, but I do wonder if he is being given a hard time.
Maybe bannan fell foul of the 'no quality ' rule?
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Right now I think Carruthers is just being given the time to develop.
I think anyone who isn't in our first choice XI or Gary Gardner could well go in the summer. I read a PL quote about building up the strength of the squad over the summer so I think we will be trying to offload anyone who wasn't good enough to get into a side that was struggling near the bottom of the league and bringing in players that will give competition for places all over the park.
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Bit of a strange bench. Dawkins and Herd will likely be off and have barely been involved all year. Doesn't look great for Bannan and Lichaj.
Don't think we should draw any conclusions from this - what with long-term injuries etc.
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I doubt Herd will be off. He has just had injury problems which is why he hasn't featured that often.
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Today is my birthday.
Darren Bent owes me a hat trick.
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Come on Villa. So have we filled the place?
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Afternoon chaps, ready for this? first stress free game for months...
PS, anyone got a PM for me?
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Dammit its not on TV over here :(
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Happy Birthday Baby.
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Dammit its not on TV over here :(
Same, only Man Ut, Arsenal and City.
Happy birthday Lambo_Stockmix!
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Oh yes. Bent
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Get in Bent!!
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Good boy. Still love him.
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Benttttttt
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Boom!
Well taken Darren Bent.
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Benteke!!... oh hold on....
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Get in Benty 0-1
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Great finish Darren!!
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Great finish Benty
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Nice!!!
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Nice goal Bent
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can anyone watch this cause i cant?
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Great start...
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Shit! When you see that, it really makes you think about what we'll be losing this summer when he goes...
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Great touch brilliant movement and excellent strike!!!
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Dammit its not on TV over here :(
Same, only Man Ut, Arsenal and City.
Happy birthday Lambo_Stockmix!
Hehe cheers mate. I thought you'd forgotten.
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Could we some how get both the Bents up front...as well as Gab and Andi....I wonder
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Sad to see flare thrown on the pitch.
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Shit! When you see that, it really makes you think about what we'll be losing this summer when he goes...
I thought that instantly. I hope he stays.
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Class. I'm gonna miss Benty. The way we've played lately we could actually accomodate him up front. Unfortunately for him, it would be in place of Benteke and that aint gonna happen. We're playing well enough to suit Bent's game though.
Hopefully he'll bag a hattrick and then add a couple of mill back on his price tag.
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And bang! We're 11th.
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Happy Birthday Baby.
Two more to go ;)
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Good old Benty.
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Missed the goal due to erm technical difficulties.
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Just in from the garden and missed the bloody goal! Might go back to my planting...
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I'm having a nightmare - stressed on a stress free match as I can't see the match! If anyone can help it would be greatly appreciated :-)
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marvellous work by Westwood just then.
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Get in, great start.......I shall return to the garden from where I have masterminded most of our recent wins
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I would love to be able to watch this.
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marvellous work by Westwood just then.
He really is a very good footballer isn't he.
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Just in from the garden and missed the bloody goal! Might go back to my planting...
I'll be out soon too dear...
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marvellous work by Westwood just then.
He really is a very good footballer isn't he.
He certainly is.
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I just put a window box up...
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Isn't it great to have a full programme of games on today?
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Get in, great start.......I shall return to the garden from where I have masterminded most of our recent wins
Yes, I reckon that arbour needs at least an hour and half's more work!
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I just put a window box up...
Not started on my boxes yet. Been getting my dahlias that have started sprouting into the ground, potting on my asters and marigolds, planting some cucumber and getting some of the 80 sunflowers the kids have planted into the ground. Running out of space fast!
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Tesco bags getting spanked, 2-0 to Yanited already. Great start to the afternoon all round.
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What today might do is justify whatever value we place on him in the summer. He's still an elite player in the right system and circumstances. We certainly should not sell him cheap. Especially to any potential rival.
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Is today 'Clean Sheet Day'?
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Get in, great start.......I shall return to the garden from where I have masterminded most of our recent wins
Yes, I reckon that arbour needs at least an hour and half's more work!
Ha, good memory, I finished varnishing the arbour a few weeks ago, just a touch up, I do it each year. Now got some nice clematis and climbing roses going up it which will look lovely in a couple of months time...
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We just moved from 16th to 11th....in terms of money thats £3,020,248 to £7,550,620
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Isn't it great to have a full programme of games on today?
Old school.
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Is today 'Clean Sheet Day'?
Almost lost it just then, good work Nathan Baker
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I just put a window box up...
I'm cutting the hedge.
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We just moved from 16th to 11th....in terms of money thats £3,020,248 to £7,550,620
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Is today 'Clean Sheet Day'?
Almost lost it just then, good work Nathan Baker
I'll keep my mouth shut about that then.
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I just put a window box up...
I'm cutting the hedge.
I find the hedge trimmer causes interference on my radio
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We just moved from 16th to 11th....in terms of money thats £3,020,248 to £7,550,620
2 players on 50k a week for a season. Every penny counts.
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I just put a window box up...
I'm cutting the hedge.
I find the hedge trimmer causes interference on my radio
I go through the bloody wire all the time!
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Anyone reckon Danny Simpson on a free is a good shout?
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Come on Benty, hattrick today.
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Bollocks. In the 19th minute as well.
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Oh shit 1-1
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How much room did he have to cross that ball in?!!!
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Balls.
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Is all this H&V gardening in ode to Gary's return to the matchday squad?
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oh bollocks
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Bennett realised about 10 minutes too late there.
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Bugger. During Stan minute as well
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Good goal. What was Boyce doing up there though?
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I just put a window box up...
Not started on my boxes yet. Been getting my dahlias that have started sprouting into the ground, potting on my asters and marigolds, planting some cucumber and getting some of the 80 sunflowers the kids have planted into the ground. Running out of space fast!
I don't do the planting..
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For fucks sake, not great defending.
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Now that wasn't in the script.
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Is all this H&V gardening in ode to Gary's return to the matchday squad?
Yeah.
Makes me glad we never signed David Rape.
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How much room did he have to cross that ball in?!!!
Acres of space.
A reminder of what we need to improve on next season.
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Who mentioned clean sheet?
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It wouldn't feel like a Villa game if we didn't concede through a soft goal. 4-1 win here we come
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Off back outside.
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We all know one wasn't going to be enough anyway!
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Oh and thanks guys, you know who you are...
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No clean sheet then. Oh well.
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For fucks sake, not great defending.
We've heard that before this season.
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I wonder what the record is for most games without a clean sheet by anyone.
Fulham ahead as well now.
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That was pretty lame defending from Bennet.
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I wonder what the record is for most games without a clean sheet by anyone.
Fulham ahead as well now.
About 3 days for me
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We're looking a bit ragged now. Need to get more possession.
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We could lose this 4-1 as easily as winning it 4-1. That's what you get with defences like these...
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Good work rate from Bent.
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Really want to win this obviously, but nice to have no real pressure.
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Decent game. Nice and open. At least it's not gonna be a damp squib. Both sides are going for it. I fancy we've got a couple more goals in us though. Andy's been quiet. Maybe bring on Zoggy in the 2nd half. Wee-man has been a bit jaded lately. Long hard season for the lad.
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Delph highly impressive so far.
What a player he has looked the last chunk of the season.
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Enjoying this game. Both teams look like they are enjoying themselves.
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Norwich feckin' winnin at Citeh. We're not gonna be moving up the table at all at this rate!
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Delph highly impressive so far.
What a player he has looked the last chunk of the season.
I've always been a fan. More so lately.
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Norwich feckin' winnin at Citeh. We're not gonna be moving up the table at all at this rate!
Loads of time left. I think there's gonna be a shit load of goals today.
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Delph highly impressive so far.
What a player he has looked the last chunk of the season.
He's been very good. I'd reall written him off, but he is definitely one of Lambert's success stories this last few months.
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Delph highly impressive so far.
What a player he has looked the last chunk of the season.
Yes very good, I like our midfield axis it's really well complimented.
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Citeh equalise, 1-1.
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Norwich feckin' winnin at Citeh. We're not gonna be moving up the table at all at this rate!
Not anymore - Citeh have equalised.
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Norwich feckin' winnin at Citeh. We're not gonna be moving up the table at all at this rate!
Loads of time left. I think there's gonna be a shit load of goals today.
1-1
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Delph highly impressive so far.
What a player he has looked the last chunk of the season.
I think it's clear tha Delph has been on here and read Risso's calm and constructive criticism of him and taken it on board.
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crap freekick
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What a crap free kick
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Delph highly impressive so far.
What a player he has looked the last chunk of the season.
I think it's clear tha Delph has been on here and read Risso's calm and constructive criticism of him and taken it on board.
As has Lambert himself, I reckon.
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I think that might be the worst free kick I've ever seen.
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Square the ball for Delph to shoot ?
Not the best idea.
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Wasted free kick and Wigan could have scored
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Fucking hell ref, out of the way.
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Stripeys getting hammered now - 0-3
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That was a chance Gabby.
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Stripeys getting hammered now - 0-3
I'm having a few quid on the horrible, bitter fuckers to go down next season.
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Lovely little first time ball from Bent there.
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Sylla is beginning to look like a bit of a find.
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Delph has transformed into a good player. How????
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Sylla is beginning to look like a bit of a find.
this
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Free kick in Maloney territory.
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How in the hell did Arsene Wenger not find Sylla?
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How in the hell did Arsene Wenger not find Sylla?
He's looking more and more like a decent player, but that's probably pushing it a little bit at this stage.
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Maloney hits the turf on the edge of the villa box. Shocked.
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Knew that would happen as soon as Maloney ran near the box. So predictable.
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Poor challenge by Sylla - Maloney was just about to run into Delph
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How in the hell did Arsene Wenger not find Sylla?
He did not see him.,..
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Our level has dropped off a bit here.
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Cornalty.
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All I wanted today was a clean sheet.
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Sylla is beginning to look like a bit of a find.
Of course, since I said this he's hardly put a foot right.
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Yeah starting to show why we are where we are in the table right now. Solid we aint.
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Sylla is doing a great job.
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Some lovely touches from Sylla there.
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That was better, just needed anything on it from Bent
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Not quite sure about the fawning over our midfield currently.
They are all decent prospects but at times they turn themselves into trouble, do strange pirouettes and Wigan have run through us a good few times already.
I think they all have great potential and on and off have looked good but we don't half let teams waltz through us at times.
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I don't think anyone is fawning over them, really.
There are promising players in there who are doing well, but everyone is aware of the fact that we've looked very weak there this season.
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FFS.
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Fuck sake.
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Comedy defending yet again from a corner
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OG No 47 according to SSN :(
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Fucking HELL.
Shit defending.
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This is ridiculous. FFS.
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Oh bollocks! What a farce
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That's something we absolutely need not to do next season - defend like clowns.
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Shoddy defending again - certainly lambert has to sort things out defensively this summer and bring in one or two additions.
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Typically comical.
Think Zoggy needs to come on second half. Their backline struggles against pace, and Andy's been quiet thus far.
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Fucking terrible, I'm glad this doesn't matter. The defending as a team and at set pieces needs addressing in the summer.
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Another ludicrous own goal.
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Sylla for Arsenal etc etc!
Bloody hell our defence is an absolute liability. Needs sorting out in the summer. Pathetic attempt to win the ball from Vlaar.
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Baker scoring a goal as spectacular as his one against Reading.
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Baker scores or is involved in too many own goals for it to be a coincidence.
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Baker is turning into Dunne
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I'll be glad when the defence is sorted out.
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Unlucky. Ah well doesnt matter.
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Good God. Surely, surely Lambert can't be planning to go into next season with this defence?!
Quite a nice feeling not really caring so much while watching the match, mind.
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the new ridgewell.
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Fucking terrible, I'm glad this doesn't matter. The defending as a team and at set pieces needs addressing in the summer.
Yep same for me.
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Shocking defending for both goals
Seriously needs addressing in pre season
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the new ridgewell.
Difference is Ridgewell could at least get goals at the other end as well.
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The whole team and management need to be pulled-up on the defending. Our worst record in years and years. Is Laursen finished doing his badges yet? Bring him back to fuck.
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Shocking defending for both goals
Seriously needs addressing in pre season
If it isn't addressed we will struggle again next season.
A new centre back (or 2) is a must.
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We're truly shit at the back. Can't remember a defence as bad as this.
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So the shoddy defending has seen us slip from 11th to 17th in 40 minutes- in placement money that must be about £5m down the pan?
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I still don't rate Baker much, his positioning is awful and he is unbelievably clumsy.
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Thank McGrath for Benteke. With a defence like ours, we'd have been relegated for sure without his goals.
The midfield just can't seem to keep the ball today either. Weimann's been poor, bring Zog on.
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I still don't rate Baker much, his positioning is awful and he is unbelievably clumsy.
He's been a liability all season.
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if they don't address this defence, we'll be bottom 6 again next season.
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I still don't rate Baker much, his positioning is awful and he is unbelievably clumsy.
I see his potential but he is far from the finished product - ok for maybe 10 to 15 games a season if required but not ready for the regular 1st choice role.
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Nice goal from Bent, only just seen it.
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Hopefully Vlaar will step up next season after getting this one under his belt but he's brought none of the commanding leadership qualities we need from him.
We've given the ball away an awful lot when attacking too, to be fair Wigan look excellent on the break. They're a funny old team, still not sure how they're going down when they're capable of playing so well.
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Ridgewell jokes aside, I'd take Liam over any of our centerbacks right now.
Think we'll need two good ones in the summer. Baker isn't good enough. Clark is probably too much of a liability too, but his ability on the ball gives him more potential. I know Lamberts sworn off experienced domestic players, but I do think one area we're absolutely in desperate need of a experience is at CB. If not premier league, than an equal or better standard. That discounts Dutch football. We can look to ze German leagues, Spanish or Italian.
Good competition/replacement for Bennett is also vital.
I think there's more goals to come from us. Wiemann's having a nightmare. Take him off. Benty has disappeared since his goal. A nice send off, but I'd be tempted to give Bowery plenty of time up front. See what he can do.
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I still don't rate Baker much, his positioning is awful and he is unbelievably clumsy.
I see his potential but he is far from the finished product - ok for maybe 10 to 15 games a season if required but not ready for the regular 1st choice role.
Unless he sorts his positioning and concentration he will never make it.
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So the shoddy defending has seen us slip from 11th to 17th in 40 minutes- in placement money that must be about £5m down the pan?
£4.5M - From the Daily Heil:
MID-TABLE MEDIOCRITY: WHAT IT MEANS FOR YOUR CLUB
10th: West Ham (v Reading H) - Could finish as high as ninth with nine-goal swing (£9million), as low as 14th (£4.5m)
11th: Stoke City (v Southampton A) - As high as 10th (£8.3m), as low as 17th (£3m)
12th: Norwich (v Man City A) - As high as 10th with eight-goal swing (£8.3m), as low as 17th (£3m)
13th: Newcastle (v Arsenal H) - As high as 10th with 12-goal swing (£8.3m), as low as 17th (£3m)
14th: Southampton (v Stoke H) - As high as 10th (£8.3m), as low as 17th (£3m)
15th: Fulham (v Swansea A) - As high as 10th with three-goal swing (£8.3m), as low as 17th (£3m)
16th: Aston Villa (v Wigan A) - As high as 10th with 12-goal swing (£8.3m), as low as 17th (£3m)
17th: Sunderland (v Tottenham H) - As high as 11th (£7.5m), as low as 17th (£3m)
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2326007/Premier-League-prize-money-table-final-game-2013-season.html#ixzz2TkqFPrcm
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I still don't rate Baker much, his positioning is awful and he is unbelievably clumsy.
I still don't rate Vlar much, his positioning is awful and he is unbelievably clumsy.
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And yes, Ron Vlaar has been a monumental disappointment so far.
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Thank McGrath for Benteke. With a defence like ours, we'd have been relegated for sure without his goals.
The midfield just can't seem to keep the ball today either. Weimann's been poor, bring Zog on.
Really?
I thought we had plenty of the ball in the middle and kept it quite well.
The problem is the defence. I actually thought Baker looked comfortable until the second goal, mind. We had multiple attempts to clear it and took none of them.
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We ll win this in the second half no worry.
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I still don't rate Baker much, his positioning is awful and he is unbelievably clumsy.
I still don't rate Vlar much, his positioning is awful and he is unbelievably clumsy.
I'm not sure his positioning is anywhere near as bad as Baker's, but yes he's very clumsy and careless as well.
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I still don't rate Baker much, his positioning is awful and he is unbelievably clumsy.
He's been a liability all season.
Better than Clark though imo.
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Shocking defending for both goals
Seriously needs addressing in pre season
Heard it mentioned on the radio earlier that if we didn't keep a clean sheet today it would be the 23rd consecutive game in which we failed to do so, which will be the worst run since back in the 30's.
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Shocking defending for both goals
Seriously needs addressing in pre season
Heard it mentioned on the radio earlier that if we didn't keep a clean sheet today it would be the 23rd consecutive game in which we failed to do so, which will be the worst run since back in the 30's.
28th game including cups.
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I'm glad we are not at risk of relegation still here, or I would, it is fair to say, be shaking like a shitting puppy right now.
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Have to say, I'm still really unconvinced by Baker. People give him more leeway than Clark because as they put it he 'looks the part' - by which they mean he's taller. He makes more mistakes than Clark though, I think, and really big ones.
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Agreed Paulie especially with Sunderland also drawing with Spurs.
Still doesn't matter thankfully.
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We ll win this in the second half no worry.
Hope we do but it still won't gloss over our appalling defence this season. Our centre backs just aren't good enough and Bennett isn't fit to wear a Villa shirt. That may sound harsh, but our goals conceded column doesn't lie.
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Have to say, I'm still really unconvinced by Baker. People give him more leeway than Clark because as they put it he 'looks the part' - by which they mean he's taller. He makes more mistakes than Clark though, I think, and really big ones.
I am definitely not convinced by Clark in defence, but I think Vlaar worries me more than Baker at the moment.
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We'd all be in meltdown now if Wigan had managed to overcome Arsenal.Everyone else in the bottom half is probably exceeding pre match predictions at present.
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I'm glad we are not at risk of relegation still here, or I would, it is fair to say, be shaking like a shitting puppy right now.
Yes. Thank god for Arsenal this week.
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I'm glad we are not at risk of relegation still here, or I would, it is fair to say, be shaking like a shitting puppy right now.
Yeah I am so happy this doesnt matter. I still think we will win this game though. Lambert is also having a nice reminder about our teams weaknesses.
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We ll win this in the second half no worry.
Hope we do but it still won't gloss over our appalling defence this season. Our centre backs just aren't good enough and Bennett isn't fit to wear a Villa shirt. That may sound harsh, but our goals conceded column doesn't lie.
I've got more confidence in Bennett improving to a top standard than Baker.
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We ll win this in the second half no worry.
Hope we do but it still won't gloss over our appalling defence this season. Our centre backs just aren't good enough and Bennett isn't fit to wear a Villa shirt. That may sound harsh, but our goals conceded column doesn't lie.
I've got more confidence in Bennett improving to a top standard than Baker.
But how long do you give him?
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A good central defence is integral to any success. As none of our options can be relied on, i'd recommend buying one in the summer.
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I still don't rate Baker much, his positioning is awful and he is unbelievably clumsy.
I still don't rate Vlar much, his positioning is awful and he is unbelievably clumsy.
I'm not sure his positioning is anywhere near as bad as Baker's, but yes he's very clumsy and careless as well.
Vlaar needs to play alongside a dominating centre half, as does Baker.
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I still don't rate Baker much, his positioning is awful and he is unbelievably clumsy.
I still don't rate Vlar much, his positioning is awful and he is unbelievably clumsy.
I'm not sure his positioning is anywhere near as bad as Baker's, but yes he's very clumsy and careless as well.
Vlaar needs to play alongside a dominating centre half, as does Baker.
A Lescott-ish signing.
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We ll win this in the second half no worry.
Hope we do but it still won't gloss over our appalling defence this season. Our centre backs just aren't good enough and Bennett isn't fit to wear a Villa shirt. That may sound harsh, but our goals conceded column doesn't lie.
I've got more confidence in Bennett improving to a top standard than Baker.
But how long do you give him?
To be fair his shown good signs of improvement since he got fit and playing, he's only been doing that for a quarter of the season.
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Our tracking of runners needs to be better.
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Are we on the beach already?
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Have to say, if i were a young, multi millionaire professional footballer today, with nothing really to play for in terms of glory or disgrace, and 90 minutes to see through before I go off on holiday for a month, with all the amazing free time options earning huge amounts of money opens up, I would absolutely coast through this game, and not do anything to risk an injury which would entirely fuck up my holiday plans.
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What on earth was Vlaar doing there?
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Sometimes we have the ball in the final third and we knock it all the way back to Guzan.
I agree with keeping hold of the ball but there are times they seem to go backwards on purpose and all it does is allows the opposition a sniff of a goal. One of the reasons no clean sheets in 28?
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Stoke 1 up againt Saints.
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The January Villa have turned up today
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Vlaar horrendous there. It seems one of our biggest defensive issues is concentration.
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2 new defenders and goal scoring midfielders and we will be pucka.
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We ll win this in the second half no worry.
Hope we do but it still won't gloss over our appalling defence this season. Our centre backs just aren't good enough and Bennett isn't fit to wear a Villa shirt. That may sound harsh, but our goals conceded column doesn't lie.
I've got more confidence in Bennett improving to a top standard than Baker.
But how long do you give him?
To be fair his shown good signs of improvement since he got fit and playing, he's only been doing that for a quarter of the season.
But he continues to make big mistakes that cost us vital points. The left back position is a weak spot at Villa and it needs sorting out.
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Our tracking of runners needs to be better.
Yes, watch Delph for fat franks second goal last week.
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Its been a tough season, the guys you are having a go at have been doing all they can on the pitch...leave them alone
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All Wigan.
Our defence is fucking shat.
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Vlaar horrendous there. It seems one of our biggest defensive issues is concentration.
Not just in defence, either. We've been guilty of it all over the park all too often this season.
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This is really poor now.
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Defensive errors aside we also have no idea how to unlock a defence. If we are not countering we seem clueless. Playmaker needed I think.
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Norwich winning.
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But he continues to make big mistakes that cost us vital points. The left back position is a weak spot at Villa and it needs sorting out.
I would say that of late, the weakness has moved from left back to centre back.
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Its been a tough season, the guys you are having a go at have been doing all they can on the pitch...leave them alone
That's not an excuse.
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But he continues to make big mistakes that cost us vital points. The left back position is a weak spot at Villa and it needs sorting out.
I would say that of late, the weakness has moved from left back to centre back.
Agreed, our centre halves are a real problem.
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Its been a tough season, the guys you are having a go at have been doing all they can on the pitch...leave them alone
They're professional footballers to constantly repeat the same mistakes, safe or not, is unacceptable.
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How many times has Sylla given the ball away?
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Worry for me is we look toothless without Benteke. When he's on the pitch and the ball flies over the halfway line, something always happens. Very little today apart from the first 5 minutes.
Bring N'zogbia on, someone with pace to run at Wigan at least centrally.
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There is a lot of money at stake here, we should be playing a lot better. Come on Villa.
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Surely they won't do the double on us
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But he continues to make big mistakes that cost us vital points. The left back position is a weak spot at Villa and it needs sorting out.
I would say that of late, the weakness has moved from left back to centre back.
The defence as a whole has let us down all season. Thank god the season is over and we're safe. It needs strengthening in the summer, absolutely no excuses will be accepted.
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Build up too slow, Wigan have time to get players behind the ball.
Wigan more accurate passing than Villa
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At this rate we'll finish 17th....although safe, its still shit
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I'm glad we are not at risk of relegation still here, or I would, it is fair to say, be shaking like a shitting puppy right now.
We are not at risk because when it mattered we did the business
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Shambles.
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Should have been 3. We've gone to sleep
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Horrific defending again there, fucking hell Villa.
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Whoever said "January Villa" had it right.
Sylla off? Strange.
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That is a very strange substitution.
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We will score now.
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Dawkins?? Why not N'Zog?
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Fuck me, Ronaldo Vlaar!
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what a strike by ron.
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What the fook??
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What a finish by Vlaar!!!!
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What a fucking goal by Vlaar 2-2
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Soft-centred Ron!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Stick Vlaar up front. Sorted :)
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Wow!
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Bloody hell, Vlaar! You redeem yourself, my lord!
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That is a BEAUTY Ron
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well done.
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We will score now.
8)
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Ron!!!!! What a finish!
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We will score now.
I would say no-one saw that coming from Vlarr...
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We could really do with someone like Maloney. He's played well today. Has great vision and his set piece delivery is excellent too.
EDIT- Great goal Ron. I wish he could defend better though.
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Wow.He doesn't do tap-ins does he.
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Win this and we could still finish 11th with the other results at the minute couldn't we?
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Bloody, hell, Vlaar.
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Fuck me, Ronaldo Vlaar!
Ha!
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Well I'll be....
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Get in Concrete!
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Well, maybe we can give Vlaar another chance...
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Weird substition I have to say. Sylla has been good. Replacing him with a winger is strange. But then again, we're used to Lamberts daft substitutions.
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We look so much better when we're in the zone. We need to stay there.
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Some of the best goals since Big Ron's days. We have scored some fucking crackers
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We will score now.
I would say no-one saw that coming from Vlarr...
Hey I said we'd score. I didn't say how.
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Sylla off is as I thought he's been good, but good luck Dawk.
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That was really poor of Gabby to shoot there
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I still think we will stay up
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Oh Gabby - had to score then
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FFS Gabby at least hit the target!!
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Poor Gabby.
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Gabby should have done better, nice goal by ron though
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Dawkins looks an amazing prospect.
I can certainly see why he was earning £30k pa in the MLS
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They look demoralised.
Pricks.
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Wanted. One brain. Must fit head of sex-crazed Erdingtonian named after high-ranking angel.
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Poor Gabby.
Why? What's happened to him?
;)
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Wanted. One brain. Must fit head of sex-crazed Erdingtonian named after high-ranking angel.
lulz
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Some of the best goals since Big Ron's days. We have scored some fucking crackers
We've scored some great goals this season. They've also been goals which have bailed us out this season, weirdly not sure if that's a good thing or not.
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Well, it's certainly better than not scoring them.
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Wanted. One brain. Must fit head of sex-crazed Erdingtonian named after high-ranking angel.
He looked clever enough at Norwich.
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Some of the best goals since Big Ron's days. We have scored some fucking crackers
We've scored some great goals this season. They've also been goals which have bailed us out this season, weirdly not sure if that's a good thing or not.
How can it be a bad thing, out of interest?
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Is it just me or was that a complete waste of a free kick?
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He's off his food is Weimann.
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Andi has looked very off the pace today.
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we have no idea how to play through a defence unless countering.
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hopefully this is when they tire
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Score a winner and we could finish twelfth as things stand
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Wanted. One brain. Must fit head of sex-crazed Erdingtonian named after high-ranking angel.
What high ranked Angel are you named after, Jimbo?
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we have no idea how to play through a defence unless countering.
Absolutely. We desperately need some inspiration to break defences down.
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Our free kicks are terrible
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Why no Charlie today so far? Surely better than Dawkins?
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Some of the best goals since Big Ron's days. We have scored some fucking crackers
We've scored some great goals this season. They've also been goals which have bailed us out this season, weirdly not sure if that's a good thing or not.
How can it be a bad thing, out of interest?
Well only if you consider that that sort of inspiration is a finite thing and that maybe next season we won't get as many. So many strikes have come out of the blue when we've looked a bit toothless so they've been magical but it's not necessarily a tactic that can be repeated.
Anyway obviously it's great scoring crackers, just a daft theory!
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How bout a decent free kick lads?
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Nope. More shite.
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Another wasted free kick.
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How bout a decent free kick lads?
Nah
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How bout a decent free kick lads?
Nah you're alright.
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Another absolute waste of a free kick in a good position
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I read the other day that Fernando Torres, for the next six days (now) is a reigning World Cup, European Championship, Champions League and Europa League champion.
Anyway, he's scored against Everton.
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Wanted. One brain. Must fit head of sex-crazed Erdingtonian named after high-ranking angel.
What high ranked Angel are you named after, Jimbo?
The clue's in the name, I suppose.
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Norwich winning at Man City and Spurs drawing is my 60/1 double, which looks disturbingly like it might come in.
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Another let off
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Lucky.
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How bout a decent free kick lads?
Nah you're alright.
;D
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Fucking hell we look well off the pace.
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STOP GIVING THE BALL AWAY!!
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Fucking hell we look well off the pace.
Eight minutes from the end of the season, Paul, nothing to play for (for the players, anyway).
It's not hugely surprising.
Even the fans have gone quiet.
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I hate it when we pass back to Guzan for the hoof. Beneteke aint playing lads. No outlet. Play out from the back plz.
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Fucking hell we look well off the pace.
Eight minutes from the end of the season, Paul, nothing to play for (for the players, anyway).
It's not hugely surprising.
Even the fans have gone quiet.
Well true but Wigan are no different and they're doing alright.
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Fucking hell we look well off the pace.
Eight minutes from the end of the season, Paul, nothing to play for (for the players, anyway).
It's not hugely surprising.
Even the fans have gone quiet.
Well true but Wigan are no different and they're doing alright.
It's not as if we're under the cosh, is it?
They're playing the last five minutes in the top flight for a long time, too. We're not. It is understandable if we've gone a bit off key.
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I can feel one of our late winners in my water
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Baggies game now 4-5
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Fucking hell we look well off the pace.
Eight minutes from the end of the season, Paul, nothing to play for (for the players, anyway).
It's not hugely surprising.
Even the fans have gone quiet.
Well true but Wigan are no different and they're doing alright.
It's not as if we're under the cosh, is it?
They're playing the last five minutes in the top flight for a long time, too. We're not. It is understandable if we've gone a bit off key.
There's no room for perspective on this thread.
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I can feel one of our late winners in my water
Dawkins stunner.
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GG!
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Late winner?
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I can feel one of our late winners in my water
Dawkins stunner.
From a free kick.
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5-5 at Baggies
Bale gets 1-0 so if Newcastle score....
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5-5!
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5-5 at Baggies
Bale gets 1-0 so if Newcastle score....
Fucking Bale kills my 60/1 double.
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Villa fans must have the strongest sphincter muscles in the land.
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5-5 west brom.
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5-5 west brom.
crazy
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Lukaku hat trick
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Baker seems to be having a shocker.
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Well played Bennett
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We can get 13th with a win. Come on lads
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Hoorah! we'd have stayed up anyway.
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Damn Citeh. Losing at home to Norwich.
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FT
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Pleasure gents.
We fucking stayed up. UTV.
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Glad we did not end up having to rely on City beating Norwich eh!
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Thank God the season is over!
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We all need a rest. Onwards and upwards for next season. UTV.
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Glad we did not end up having to rely on City beating Norwich eh!
I thought we would have been relying on Sunderland to not win at Spurs, which happened, and Wigan to not beat us, which happened.
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Extra bonus - finished above Newcastle and Sunderland.
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Made it.
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onwards and upwards
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Thank you everyone. Enjoy the cricket season.