Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Tuscans on May 17, 2013, 05:10:11 PM
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Sunday 26th May....lunch time ko.....Villa Park, if Chelsea and Arsenal finish on same points
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Oh, I don't want those Chav scum Chelsea in our seats on Rotterdam Day. Why not just play it at White Hart Lane or Upton Park? Ludicrous decision.
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Bit of a pointless game but still interesting if it happens. Always feel uncomfortable seeing other fans in the Holte.
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Oh, I don't want those Chav scum Chelsea in our seats on Rotterdam Day. Why not just play it at White Hart Lane or Upton Park? Ludicrous decision.
I wonder if it is maybe to do with the Champions League final at Wembley the evening before?
90,000 German fans still in London the next day, and a heated fixture between two London clubs in the capital - that's not the sort of thing the rozzers would like.
Also, it might be to do with late notice - this has never happened before so I imagine there has been no planning for it. Maybe other clubs are replacing pitches as soon as the season ends / have grounds booked for other things?
Or maybe the Met can't provide the policing for it.
There could be loads of things we don't know about, ultimately.
Doesn't bother me. It is a wonderful ground which oozes history and class. Those latte-bothering revolting Tarquins should be happy they're getting to make a pilgrimage.
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Sunday 26th May....lunch time ko.....Villa Park, if Chelsea and Arsenal finish on same points
Also must finish on the same goal difference and goals scored for a play off to be required - a long shot but still an outside possibility.
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So if Chelsea draw 0-0 and Arsenal win 2-1 basically. Not beyond the realms of possibility at all. I don't get why it can't just come down to their head-to-head record.
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I hope it does happen.
Surprised Richard Skidmark didn't try and sell it to somewhere in Dubai or America
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Is this just to decide 3rd place?
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Yes. Decides which team goes straight into the CL Group Stage and which side has to win a play-off against someone like Twente.
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It does seem ridiculous that you send two clubs from London 100 miles up the road to find a neutral ground. It doesn't matter to the clubs but it's a pain in the arse for the fans.
But if it gets us a bit of extra cash and builds the profile of VP and Birmingham then why not.
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So if Chelsea draw 0-0 and Arsenal win 2-1 basically. Not beyond the realms of possibility at all. I don't get why it can't just come down to their head-to-head record.
I'm guessing because that rule isn't in place so they can't stick it in now. Wouldn't surprise me if they do that in future though. I doubt the two exact scores required will happen anyway. It would basically be a play off to avoid a pre qualifying game.
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I hope it does happen.
Surprised Richard Skidmark didn't try and sell it to somewhere in Dubai or America
Yep. He could've used it to try and revive his ludacrous plan to hold a 39th league game in other countries.
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Discussions with London-based stadia did take place as part of that process but limited availability and calendar restrictions, combined with the desire to use a large capacity ground that has experience in organising and delivering neutral matches, rendered Villa Park the most suitable choice.
From the Premier League: http://goo.gl/EXgZf
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Chelsea did the double over Arsenal so they should get 3rd place.
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Chelsea will beat Everton, so our hallowed turf is safe from the filth.
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I hope it does happen.
Surprised Richard Skidmark didn't try and sell it to somewhere in Dubai or America
Yep. He could've used it to try and revive his ludacrous plan to hold a 39th league game in other countries.
I think it should be in Shanghai as there are lot f truer hardcore Chelski fans here!
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Sunday 26th May....lunch time ko.....Villa Park, if Chelsea and Arsenal finish on same points
Also must finish on the same goal difference and goals scored for a play off to be required - a long shot but still an outside possibility.
The total amount of goals does not come into it, just points and goal difference. If the same thing happens in the Champions League then its based on the amount of goals.
Basically if Chelsea draw the game by any margin, 0-0 or even 6-6...and Arsenal will by their match by exactly 2 goals 2-0, 5-3...then its a play off
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Sunday 26th May....lunch time ko.....Villa Park, if Chelsea and Arsenal finish on same points
Also must finish on the same goal difference and goals scored for a play off to be required - a long shot but still an outside possibility.
The total amount of goals does not come into it, just points and goal difference. If the same thing happens in the Champions League then its based on the amount of goals.
Basically if Chelsea draw the game by any margin, 0-0 or even 6-6...and Arsenal will by their match by exactly 2 goals 2-0, 5-3...then its a play off
Goals scored is considered, as the Premier League website states:
'In order for a play-off to occur to determine which sides finish third and fourth, Chelsea must be held to a draw by Everton at Stamford Bridge on Sunday, and Arsenal need to win at Newcastle United by a single goal while scoring two more than Chelsea. For example, if Rafael Benitez’s side and Everton share a goalless draw, Arsenal must win 2-1. If Chelsea draw 1-1, the Gunners must win 3-2 and so on.'
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Doesn't bother me. It is a wonderful ground which oozes history and class. Those latte-bothering revolting Tarquins should be happy they're getting to make a pilgrimage.
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I don't like that club, but living in W London I can tell you categorically that your description does not fit a large proportion of their fans. You are more likely to take a pissbawler at Chelsea than almost any other ground in the premier league
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Villa Park's reputation as an historic and atmospheric venue can only be enhanced by hosting neutral games, it helps the profile of our club.
And thanks Pat, you've brightened up my dull morning at work with the word "pissbawler", haven't heard it for years.
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That twunt Durham on Talksport yesterday was saying how arsenal would try to lose the game because they would want the extra game for the match revenue. I resisted ringing up to tell him they'd most likely make as much or more by finishing a place higher.
And pissbawler, top word!
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That twunt Durham on Talksport yesterday was saying how arsenal would try to lose the game because they would want the extra game for the match revenue. I resisted ringing up to tell him they'd most likely make as much or more by finishing a place higher.
You're joking aren't you? With a 60,000 capacity stadium and the most expensive matchday tickets in the league I imagine they make millions from every home game. The extra league place was worth about £800k last year.
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That twunt Durham on Talksport yesterday was saying how arsenal would try to lose the game because they would want the extra game for the match revenue. I resisted ringing up to tell him they'd most likely make as much or more by finishing a place higher.
You're joking aren't you? With a 60,000 capacity stadium and the most expensive matchday tickets in the league I imagine they make millions from every home game. The extra league place was worth about £800k last year.
Well he reckoned an extra game would pay about a seventh of Wengers wages for the year, so 2 million puts him on 14 million a year?
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Good, we`ll need the ground staff to get used to games like that when we`re in it. :)
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How about the fact that there's a big tournament for junior teams at Villa Park next Saturday where the kids have been raising money to pay the £50 a head entry fee. Many families' holiday weekends have been arranged around this too. Villa should have told the Prem Lge to do one.
For a pretty meaningless play-off featuring Chelski reserves (the first team are playing Man City in New York on Saturday night), they really could have played it at West Ham for the amount of fans who would be bothered.
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Wouldn't common sense see it played at White Hart Lane or somewhere local?
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Wouldn't common sense see it played at White Hart Lane or somewhere local?
To be fair, I can see how the home of Arsenal's local rivals wouldn't be classed as neutral.
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Because it's a ground easily accessible to both? We played Albion at St Andrews and The Molineux in 1957.
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It will delay the pitch being prepared for next season. Fuck them off!
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Doesn't bother me. It is a wonderful ground which oozes history and class. Those latte-bothering revolting Tarquins should be happy they're getting to make a pilgrimage.
This, I always thought it was something to be proud of that Villa Park was picked for important games. Obviously not so much now thanks to the semis being at Wembley but like you say it's a brilliant ground.
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So if Chelsea draw 0-0 and Arsenal win 2-1 basically. Not beyond the realms of possibility at all. I don't get why it can't just come down to their head-to-head record.
90/1 on both results happening. Worth a quid or two.