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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Ron Manager on April 19, 2013, 04:28:55 PM
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It appears that our CEO a Mr Paul Faulkner took home a salary of £256,000 last year. Meanwhile up the road at Molineux Wolves CEO a Mr Jez Moxey took home...wait for it....£1.2mil!
I find that quite astonishing.
Comments gentlemen.
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Is he any relation to Paul the Villan?
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i would ask for a tansfer to wolves
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Niall Quinn got £2.4 million.
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Niall Quinn got £2.4 million.
I was staggered by that, think it includes a £2 million pay off.
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Perhaps he's paid for performance?
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Perhaps he's paid for performance?
You mean if he'd performed well he'd have got more?
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Perhaps he's paid for performance?
5th reply is one taking the piss out his performance despite the fact that, in most measures on the performance of a CEO, he's doing pretty well. I expected it to be in the first 3 but Dave W bought a couple of posts by posting Niall Quinn's salary.
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Perhaps he's paid for performance?
5th reply is one taking the piss out his performance despite the fact that, in most measures on the performance of a CEO, he's doing pretty well. I expected it to be in the first 3 but Dave W bought a couple of posts by posting Niall Quinn's salary.
That has completely lost me!
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Perhaps he's paid for performance?
5th reply is one taking the piss out his performance despite the fact that, in most measures on the performance of a CEO, he's doing pretty well. I expected it to be in the first 3 but Dave W bought a couple of posts by posting Niall Quinn's salary.
Pardon?
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Is he any relation to Paul the Villan?
I'd settle to be short, fat and ginger for that salary. :D
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Perhaps he's paid for performance?
5th reply is one taking the piss out his performance despite the fact that, in most measures on the performance of a CEO, he's doing pretty well. I expected it to be in the first 3 but Dave W bought a couple of posts by posting Niall Quinn's salary.
Years of appalling losses, falling turnover, the appointment of a manager like McLeish.....how exactly is he doing well. No wonder he doesn't earn very much.
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Perhaps he's paid for performance?
5th reply is one taking the piss out his performance despite the fact that, in most measures on the performance of a CEO, he's doing pretty well. I expected it to be in the first 3 but Dave W bought a couple of posts by posting Niall Quinn's salary.
Years of appalling losses, falling turnover, the appointment of a manager like McLeish.....how exactly is he doing well.
I suppose one could say if "Jez" Moxey took home five times as much to potentially oversee consecutive relegations the we're getting value for money. Comparatively speaking only, of course.
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Didn't I read somewhere that revenue coming in from abroad was at it's highest ever?
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Didn't I read somewhere that revenue coming in from abroad was at it's highest ever?
I'd be amazed if it weren't. But how much of that is going to be overseas TV revenue organised on behalf of the Premier League rather than anything to do with whoever our Chief Executive happens to be though?
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Jeremy Peace got £1.2 million and someone at Stoke £700k.
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He's also probably on about one quarter of the annual salary of say, Barry Bannan.
I can't think of too many other industries where the person in charge of everything gets paid such a small proportion of the overall wage bill.
If you pay peanuts etc...
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He can't win though, if he was on £1 mill you'd all be moaning about his high wages.
I think £250k is about right for the CEO of a business of our size.
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He's also probably on about one quarter of the annual salary of say, Barry Bannan.
I can't think of too many other industries where the person in charge of everything gets paid such a small proportion of the overall wage bill.
If you pay peanuts etc...
But I'd argue the individual contribution towards the success of the overall business is much greater for footballers than your average shop floor worker.
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Not in Barry Bannan's case ;)
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The Galway United CEO used to be Nick Leeson.
http://www.extratime.ie/newsdesk/articles/4865/
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I used to play 5 aside with the Wigan CEO Jon Jackson.
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Jez Poxey is doing a great job.............................for Albion!
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He can't win though, if he was on £1 mill you'd all be moaning about his high wages.
I think £250k is about right for the CEO of a business of our size.
This. Other clubs need to get real.
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Gravy train
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Crazy Train
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The Great Train Robbery
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Two pickets to Titsburgh
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Perhaps he's paid for performance?
5th reply is one taking the piss out his performance despite the fact that, in most measures on the performance of a CEO, he's doing pretty well. I expected it to be in the first 3 but Dave W bought a couple of posts by posting Niall Quinn's salary.
Years of appalling losses, falling turnover, the appointment of a manager like McLeish.....how exactly is he doing well. No wonder he doesn't earn very much.
I would like to earn not very much like him.
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He got top dollar out of Genting and Macron. He seems very amiable.
That's all I got.
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When it's confirmed that we are still in this division come May he should have his salary doubled.
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When it's confirmed that we are still in this division come May he should have his salary doubled.
Why?
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Perhaps he's paid for performance?
5th reply is one taking the piss out his performance despite the fact that, in most measures on the performance of a CEO, he's doing pretty well. I expected it to be in the first 3 but Dave W bought a couple of posts by posting Niall Quinn's salary.
Years of appalling losses, falling turnover, the appointment of a manager like McLeish.....how exactly is he doing well. No wonder he doesn't earn very much.
Years of appalling losses based on contracts signed before he was in place. Falling turnover is a direct result of our on the pitch performances. I agree regarding McLeish but that decision seemed to come from Randy more than Faulkner.
As I've said before, if we were doing well on the pitch things like the carbon neutral status and signing the biggest shirt sponsor and kit sponsor in our history would be seen as good things, along with others, but because we've not played well for a few seasons a lot of people on here can see nothing positive, that was my point. We have a CEO who has seen some commercial success but is taking a salary far lower than many of his contemporaries but it only took 5 posts for someone to say it's all he deserves.
I'm just not a big fan of the amount of shit Faulkner and Lerner get on here, they've both made mistakes, with TSM top of the list, too many people seem to want to have a villain to blame for us not challenging at the top of the league every season.
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Perhaps he's paid for performance?
5th reply is one taking the piss out his performance despite the fact that, in most measures on the performance of a CEO, he's doing pretty well. I expected it to be in the first 3 but Dave W bought a couple of posts by posting Niall Quinn's salary.
Years of appalling losses, falling turnover, the appointment of a manager like McLeish.....how exactly is he doing well. No wonder he doesn't earn very much.
Years of appalling losses based on contracts signed before he was in place. Falling turnover is a direct result of our on the pitch performances. I agree regarding McLeish but that decision seemed to come from Randy more than Faulkner.
As I've said before, if we were doing well on the pitch things like the carbon neutral status and signing the biggest shirt sponsor and kit sponsor in our history would be seen as good things, along with others, but because we've not played well for a few seasons a lot of people on here can see nothing positive, that was my point. We have a CEO who has seen some commercial success but is taking a salary far lower than many of his contemporaries but it only took 5 posts for someone to say it's all he deserves.
I'm just not a big fan of the amount of shit Faulkner and Lerner get on here, they've both made mistakes, with TSM top of the list, too many people seem to want to have a villain to blame for us not challenging at the top of the league every season.
He took that mantle over from MON about a year after he left.
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Perhaps he's paid for performance?
5th reply is one taking the piss out his performance despite the fact that, in most measures on the performance of a CEO, he's doing pretty well. I expected it to be in the first 3 but Dave W bought a couple of posts by posting Niall Quinn's salary.
Years of appalling losses, falling turnover, the appointment of a manager like McLeish.....how exactly is he doing well. No wonder he doesn't earn very much.
Years of appalling losses based on contracts signed before he was in place. Falling turnover is a direct result of our on the pitch performances. I agree regarding McLeish but that decision seemed to come from Randy more than Faulkner.
As I've said before, if we were doing well on the pitch things like the carbon neutral status and signing the biggest shirt sponsor and kit sponsor in our history would be seen as good things, along with others, but because we've not played well for a few seasons a lot of people on here can see nothing positive, that was my point. We have a CEO who has seen some commercial success but is taking a salary far lower than many of his contemporaries but it only took 5 posts for someone to say it's all he deserves.
I'm just not a big fan of the amount of shit Faulkner and Lerner get on here, they've both made mistakes, with TSM top of the list, too many people seem to want to have a villain to blame for us not challenging at the top of the league every season.
Paul - a rather more erudite comment; and one with which I largely agree.
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When it's confirmed that we are still in this division come May he should have his salary doubled.
Reward him for yet another awful season? No wonder we're in the shit with an attitude like that.
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Perhaps he's paid for performance?
5th reply is one taking the piss out his performance despite the fact that, in most measures on the performance of a CEO, he's doing pretty well. I expected it to be in the first 3 but Dave W bought a couple of posts by posting Niall Quinn's salary.
Years of appalling losses, falling turnover, the appointment of a manager like McLeish.....how exactly is he doing well. No wonder he doesn't earn very much.
Years of appalling losses based on contracts signed before he was in place. Falling turnover is a direct result of our on the pitch performances. I agree regarding McLeish but that decision seemed to come from Randy more than Faulkner.
As I've said before, if we were doing well on the pitch things like the carbon neutral status and signing the biggest shirt sponsor and kit sponsor in our history would be seen as good things, along with others, but because we've not played well for a few seasons a lot of people on here can see nothing positive, that was my point. We have a CEO who has seen some commercial success but is taking a salary far lower than many of his contemporaries but it only took 5 posts for someone to say it's all he deserves.
I'm just not a big fan of the amount of shit Faulkner and Lerner get on here, they've both made mistakes, with TSM top of the list, too many people seem to want to have a villain to blame for us not challenging at the top of the league every season.
He gave us McLeish, Macron and relegation battles, but at least we're carbon neutral.
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Whats wrong with Macron? They're paying us more dollar than anybody else?
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Whats wrong with Macron? They're paying us more dollar than anybody else?
Don't let that get in the way of blind fury.
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Well said Paul E, 100% agree
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Whats wrong with Macron? They're paying us more dollar than anybody else?
The kits are dire.
But it doesn't surprise me that people are leaping to the defence of Faulkner, poor performance and striving for mediocrity have become endemic at Villa. If he worked for anybody else who wasn't a) his mate, and b) equally hopeless, he'd have been sacked ages ago.
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Whats wrong with Macron? They're paying us more dollar than anybody else?
The kits are dire.
Personally it's my favourite Villa kit to actually play football in for years.
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Whats wrong with Macron? They're paying us more dollar than anybody else?
The kits are dire.
Personally it's my favourite Villa kit to actually play football in for years.
Away shirt is ace I reckon! Wearing it now!
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Whats wrong with Macron? They're paying us more dollar than anybody else?
The kits are dire.
Personally it's my favourite Villa kit to actually play football in for years.
Is it more "breathable"?
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When it's confirmed that we are still in this division come May he should have his salary doubled.
Why?
From a business point of view. He's been given a brief to reduce the wage bill to an acceptable level, one in which is a step to the organization being self sustainable. This strategy is the wish of the owner. If we stay in the division it will be mission accomplished. Aside from that he has implemented changes in commercial areas which have resulted in increased revenues. So purely from a business point of view he's doing a good job if we do stay up.
Yes, it's been an awful season for a club of our size but you are well aware the 'plan' is to steer the club in a different direction to try and achieve success. The first step has been painful as we see from our current position. Next season we will see if it's been worth it.
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Whats wrong with Macron? They're paying us more dollar than anybody else?
The kits are dire.
Personally it's my favourite Villa kit to actually play football in for years.
Have to agree.
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When it's confirmed that we are still in this division come May he should have his salary doubled.
Why?
From a business point of view. He's been given a brief to reduce the wage bill to an acceptable level, one in which is a step to the organization being self sustainable. This strategy is the wish of the owner. If we stay in the division it will be mission accomplished. Aside from that he has implemented changes in commercial areas which have resulted in increased revenues. So purely from a business point of view he's doing a good job if we do stay up.
Yes, it's been an awful season for a club of our size but you are well aware the 'plan' is to steer the club in a different direction to try and achieve success. The first step has been painful as we see from our current position. Next season we will see if it's been worth it.
What's the "different direction"? Is it to just survive in the PL like the Stoke, Wigan and Fulhams' of this world? If that's the case why the hell did Lerner buy the club?
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When it's confirmed that we are still in this division come May he should have his salary doubled.
Why?
From a business point of view. He's been given a brief to reduce the wage bill to an acceptable level, one in which is a step to the organization being self sustainable. This strategy is the wish of the owner. If we stay in the division it will be mission accomplished. Aside from that he has implemented changes in commercial areas which have resulted in increased revenues. So purely from a business point of view he's doing a good job if we do stay up.
Yes, it's been an awful season for a club of our size but you are well aware the 'plan' is to steer the club in a different direction to try and achieve success. The first step has been painful as we see from our current position. Next season we will see if it's been worth it.
What's the "different direction"? Is it to just survive in the PL like the Stoke, Wigan and Fulhams' of this world? If that's the case why the hell did Lerner buy the club?
If you don't understand or see what they are attempting to do it is not worth attempting to explain it. Never a more negative man in the world that you SH.
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When it's confirmed that we are still in this division come May he should have his salary doubled.
Why?
From a business point of view. He's been given a brief to reduce the wage bill to an acceptable level, one in which is a step to the organization being self sustainable. This strategy is the wish of the owner. If we stay in the division it will be mission accomplished. Aside from that he has implemented changes in commercial areas which have resulted in increased revenues. So purely from a business point of view he's doing a good job if we do stay up.
Yes, it's been an awful season for a club of our size but you are well aware the 'plan' is to steer the club in a different direction to try and achieve success. The first step has been painful as we see from our current position. Next season we will see if it's been worth it.
What's the "different direction"? Is it to just survive in the PL like the Stoke, Wigan and Fulhams' of this world? If that's the case why the hell did Lerner buy the club?
You have surely seen the "new direction" being discussed enough times to know what it is. You were one of the most vociferous opponents of it because you were against signing so many players without premier league experience. The test of whether you were right in your opinion is if we a) stay up this season and b) kick on next season. However a change in strategy such as Villa have undergone was never going to be achieved without some pain.
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When it's confirmed that we are still in this division come May he should have his salary doubled.
Why?
From a business point of view. He's been given a brief to reduce the wage bill to an acceptable level, one in which is a step to the organization being self sustainable. This strategy is the wish of the owner. If we stay in the division it will be mission accomplished. Aside from that he has implemented changes in commercial areas which have resulted in increased revenues. So purely from a business point of view he's doing a good job if we do stay up.
Yes, it's been an awful season for a club of our size but you are well aware the 'plan' is to steer the club in a different direction to try and achieve success. The first step has been painful as we see from our current position. Next season we will see if it's been worth it.
What's the "different direction"? Is it to just survive in the PL like the Stoke, Wigan and Fulhams' of this world? If that's the case why the hell did Lerner buy the club?
If you don't understand or see what they are attempting to do it is not worth attempting to explain it. Never a more negative man in the world that you SH.
Perhaps this season has just been a nightmare and actually we're battling for a place in Europe?
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As I've said before, being skint and not being able to spend money isn't a 'direction' or a plan. The decision not to buy a defender in January was really negligent, and if we go down will be one of the main contributory factors.
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He's also probably on about one quarter of the annual salary of say, Barry Bannan.
I can't think of too many other industries where the person in charge of everything gets paid such a small proportion of the overall wage bill.
If you pay peanuts etc...
Well quite. Oh how it shows.
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As I've said before, being skint and not being able to spend money isn't a 'direction' or a plan. The decision not to buy a defender in January was really negligent, and if we go down will be one of the main contributory factors.
I agree with Risso to be honest. I don't really believe it's a plan, rather something that has been foisted on the club. We'll get nowhere by being the training club for other team's great players. Take the Benteke situation for instance; there was a time where people would have been bullish about him staying, yet it's pretty much out in the open that he's in the shop window and people are fine with this. That's what has happened to our expectations of the club.
I rarely moan on here about things, or at least I'm not as vociferous as others, but I think the club is stagnant from the top down. I just cannot see us going anywhere or doing anything with things the way they are.
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As I've said before, being skint and not being able to spend money isn't a 'direction' or a plan. The decision not to buy a defender in January was really negligent, and if we go down will be one of the main contributory factors.
I agree with Risso to be honest. I don't really believe it's a plan, rather something that has been foisted on the club. We'll get nowhere by being the training club for other team's great players. Take the Benteke situation for instance; there was a time where people would have been bullish about him staying, yet it's pretty much out in the open that he's in the shop window and people are fine with this. That's what has happened to our expectations of the club.
I rarely moan on here about things, or at least I'm not as vociferous as others, but I think the club is stagnant from the top down. I just cannot see us going anywhere or doing anything with things the way they are.
Agreed. It's the guff from the club that we have a long term plan to blood young and hungry players like its some kind of genius plan for world domination that bugs me. We're doing it because its cheap, that's all. The club is in a downward spiral and will end in relegation. Might not be this season, but we'll go down soon enough unless Lerner realises you have to invest in PL standard players just to stand still in this league let alone advance.
Don't care if this view pisses off others on here but that's how I see it. The majority of players in our squad are not good enough for Aston Villa FC, and that why we're in this almighty mess.