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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: godzvilla on April 12, 2013, 02:07:37 AM
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Picked this up yesterday from the Club site , can,t see its been mentioned elsewhere on H&V but if it has , my apologies . Very positive article though , many of the writer,s sentiments echo the thoughts I and I,m sure many other, Villa Fans have had for a while now , viz , that we are headed in the right direction uner P.L. . Also nice to see us getting some good Press for a change .............Godzvilla!
It would be a travesty if Villa go down / Adrian Durham / Daily Heil .We should all stand up and applaud what Paul Lambert is trying to achieve at Aston Villa. He has a team made up mainly of young players – eight of the starting XI at Stoke on Saturday are 23 years old or under, and six of those eight are English.
If you haven’t seen Villa this season, that’s a shame because this is a team that tries to play football.
They keep the ball on the floor and pass it around. Unless it’s a clearance, they rarely hoof the ball aimlessly.
"These young players have technique. Matthew Lowton scored one of the goals of the season with a beautiful chest and volley from 25 yards with Stoke’s hardest hatchet men charging at him.
They’re brave. Nathan Baker took the ball full in the face from a fierce Kenwyne Jones blast. And carried on no problem.
And they’ve got character. Jordan Bowery started only his second Premier League game for Villa in that big relegation clash at Stoke
All of these young players look calm and composed on the ball and, even better, they kept their heads up on Saturday. They had been by far the better side at Stoke, so when the home team equalised, heads might have dropped. But they didn’t and Villa hit back to win 3-1 with two late goals.
Heavy beatings at Chelsea and Man City have proved that it’s a project that has some way to go. Indeed, Aston Villa are still heavily involved in the relegation picture. Individual mistakes will happen with a young, growing team and those errors have cost Villa dear this season.
It would be a travesty if Villa were to go down, given the quality of the football they play. Aston Villa fans should feel proud of their club – it’s a model that every other club should try to emulate.
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Can't stand Adrian Durham on the radio, but he has been fairly complimentary about Villa this season.
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I can't listen to Adrian Durham on the radio. I know he's employed to be somewhat controversial but he also comes across as a prick of the highest order.
About the only thing I can listen to on Talk Sport is Hawksby and Jacobs, and even then in only small doses.
As for his opinions on Villa, fair play. Talk Sport does seem to have more than your fair share of Villa fans contributing to it.
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It was posted on some other thread somewhere. Hard to disagree with any of it.
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Nice article
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articles like this are going to become more common over the next few years I think, we're doing things 'the right way' and it's impossible to not give some credit for that. A team built around a young British core, many of whom have been at the club for years. This is another reason I don't want us to sell off loads of the youngsters this summer.
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I can't listen to Adrian Durham on the radio. I know he's employed to be somewhat controversial but he also comes across as a prick of the highest order.
About the only thing I can listen to on Talk Sport is Hawksby and Jacobs, and even then in only small doses.
As for his opinions on Villa, fair play. Talk Sport does seem to have more than your fair share of Villa fans contributing to it.
He's a different presenter on a Saturday afternoon, he doesn't have that other idiot with him, he's as thick as a Whale omelette that Gough.
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Its in stark contrast to that Guardian pod-cast of last season which said something along the lines of “nobody would shed a tear if the Villa were relegated given the way we play the game”.
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A similar article appeard on the Here Is The City website, a site for us Banker types....
Should every neutral be willing Aston Villa to stay up? - by Dan Coombs
Aston Villa are full of confidence after winning three of their last four. Is this good news for the Premier League?
While few will be sorry to see the back of QPR, a club who desperately tried to progress by throwing cash at big name stars in a bid for short-term fixes, there may be some disappointed if Aston Villa are relegated.
The reasons are varied; Villa have one of the most highly rated managers in football in Paul Lambert, or at least he was a year ago. An intelligent manager who has worked his way up from the lower leagues, it would be disappointing to see him falter.
But perhaps more at issue is the way Lambert has stuck by his young players, even in moments of trouble, and persisted with them despite their character testing mid-season slump which saw them win just two of 12 Premier League games between December and February, and also suffer humiliating cup defeats to both Bradford City and Millwall.
As full-back Matthew Lowton commented this week, the players are full of confidence and on a real high after lifting themselves out of trouble, and there must be a real optimism that if the club can move forward and survive then they will not be involved in such a struggle next season.
Young players like Lowton have been brought in, and are benefiting from playing Premier League football despite the tough standard, with Ashley Westwood of Crewe particularly impressive.
Villa have the exciting starlet of Gary Gardner still to return from a cruciate knee injury, and if he can fulfil his potential then the future of the club's midfield appears to be very bright.
Aston Villa's under-19 side also beat off competition from 23 other teams to triumph in the NextGen Series at the beginning of the month, giving the club even further hope for the seasons ahead.
So the last thing the club need is to be relegated, and fortunately their form has picked up at the most opportune time, the business end of the season.
Neutral fans should be willing them on, because the club have several young British starlets who can develop at the top level and turn into real stars. A trip to the Championship could be harmful to their development and could eventually lead to some players leaving Villa Park.
It is completely unlike last year, when few neutral fans would have been unhappy to see the back of a dour Alex McLeish side which offered very little in terms of entertainment or value to the Premier League - But this Villa side have potential, have potential to be different, and successful - And for that reason we should all welcome what will become an achievement if they stay up - And keep a close eye on what they have to offer in the future.
http://hereisthecity.com/2013/04/10/should-every-neutral-be-willing-aston-villa-to-stay-up/ (http://hereisthecity.com/2013/04/10/should-every-neutral-be-willing-aston-villa-to-stay-up/)
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The Guardian did a similar thing on Monday in their '10 talking points from the weekend's action':
Aston Villa would be a big loss to the Premier League
After Stoke City went down 3-1 at home to a progressive Aston Villa team, Charlie Adam said: "He has a good side there, Paul Lambert. They pass and showed intensity." To win at the Britannia Stadium is rare – despite the Potters' dire form it was only a third league defeat there this season – and Lambert's side prevailed by having the courage to stick with the philosophy espoused by him. Lambert is a young manager with a young team who are enjoyable to watch. If they beat the drop, they should emerge from the summer even better and an exciting prospect to light up the division more regularly next season.
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Crikey, we're in danger of becoming some sort of official "second club" as Newcastle were supposedly in the mid-90's.
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Don't worry we'll always have balance from Bordesley Green, and now and again from the schizophrenic Sandwell clowns (depending on how Wolves are doing).
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Not like the Daily Heil to make a special reference to most of the players being English.
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Not like the Daily Heil to make a special reference to most of the players being English.
I don't think there is anything political in that to be honest. Its a nod towards the national side, which the Premier League was set up to assist once upon a time.
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Funny how this stuff has cropped up now we're in a bit of form. We had the same players when we were cocking up against Bradford and everyone wanted us to fail then, because it was hilarious.
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he has been saying this for ages on TS , actually been bigging Villa up loads , massive history , massive club , loads of great fans , a proper club as he calls us . He also said it has to be Villa in the cup final not Bradford so lets hope he gets this one right.
stoke on the other hand ...........
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nice to have some positive press, but take it with a pinch of salt. i remember these journalist-types unzipping when we won at anfield and we followed it up with the worst defeat in our history!
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Funny how this stuff has cropped up now we're in a bit of form. We had the same players when we were cocking up against Bradford and everyone wanted us to fail then, because it was hilarious.
Exactly what I was thinking!
We had similar plaudits (young English side) in the early days on MON, when we were also winning. These journalists may think it, but will never stick their neck out to big up a side like us when we're losing, despite what they think.
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he has been saying this for ages on TS , actually been bigging Villa up loads , massive history , massive club , loads of great fans , a proper club as he calls us . He also said it has to be Villa in the cup final not Bradford so lets hope he gets this one right.
stoke on the other hand ...........
But that's usually been in the context of 'they should be doing better' and trying to get angry Villa fans ringing in having a bash at the team/manager/chairman.
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Funny how this stuff has cropped up now we're in a bit of form. We had the same players when we were cocking up against Bradford and everyone wanted us to fail then, because it was hilarious.
Spot on. This is what gets my back up about football journalism: there's no real analysis, in the main.
As an example, last summer, whilst most Premier League clubs were off scouring Europe and signing players of various abilities, Villa seemed to be one of the only Premier League clubs looking at the domestic lower leagues to seek out hidden gems. The club only received raised eyebrows when the likes of Lowton, Bennett, Bowery and Westwood were signed; as far as I could tell, there was certainly no backslapping for Lambert and his strategy.
Bringing it back to Durham and Talksport, I've heard them talk many times about how domestic players are losing out to foreign imports, yet, last summer, when Villa bucked the trend, not one of their experts or journalists came forward to say "fair play, I can see what they are doing". It was all: "Villa have got no money, they're desperate."
Only now, when things seem to be picking up, do they start to talk and "analyse". I await Oliver Holt's eventual analysis with interest.
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Crikey, we're in danger of becoming some sort of official "second club" as Newcastle were supposedly in the mid-90's.
It's like another world to last season isn't it? When we were reviled as much as Stoke are.
Let's just hope we get a result against Fulham tomorrow.
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he has been saying this for ages on TS , actually been bigging Villa up loads , massive history , massive club , loads of great fans , a proper club as he calls us . He also said it has to be Villa in the cup final not Bradford so lets hope he gets this one right.
stoke on the other hand ...........
But that's usually been in the context of 'they should be doing better' and trying to get angry Villa fans ringing in having a bash at the team/manager/chairman.
he's never be negative about Villa to be honest . Always complimentary . Arsenal yes , he winds them up.
Last season was different , Villa fans dont deserve that kind of football.
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Nice to see the positivity, as long as we don't suffer the fate of Crystal Palace, the Team of the 80s. They soon disappeared into obscurity.
Trouble with our current approach is that it might keep us in the Premier League and might win us lots of friends (all good), but where do we go from there? With our wages policy, can we ever develop into a credible PL force again?
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What's not to like about here ?!
We do try to play football properly, hence teams like Stoke who add no value at all to the Prem at all would dessert The Prem unmissed apart from LONG throw ins and 'up and at em' stuff.
Durham talking sense though, how novel !!
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To be fair to Durham, he even said last year that it would be absurd to have a Premier League without Aston Villa.
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Trouble with our current approach is that it might keep us in the Premier League and might win us lots of friends (all good), but where do we go from there? With our wages policy, can we ever develop into a credible PL force again?
I think it's all about organic growth. The wages policy is a measure against turnover, so by progressing on the pitch we increase turnover, thereby allowing us to pay higher wages. That could either be to keep the young players that develop or to buy in at a higher level in a year or two.
Arsenal are a good example. OK, being trophiless for so long is getting to be a sticking point for them, but if you look at their financials, then maintaining CL status is quite an achievement. Their's is a level above us due to CL money, so the problem might come if and when we get back into the top 6 to bridge that gap.
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Everton are there and there abouts consistently. I'd be looking to get to their level. Once we do we may well hit a 'glass ceiling', but I'll worry about it then!
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Everton are there and there abouts consistently. I'd be looking to get to their level. Once we do we may well hit a 'glass ceiling', but I'll worry about it then!
I think Arsenal will turn out to be the more realistic comparison. Bring through our own players and buy the odd one here and there to fill the squad out, sell the better players if we get crazy money offered, sell the average/not good enough for as much as possible.
Everton's success has largely been based on picking up guys who are doing well but not quite enough to have the top sides chasing them.
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Oh Moses/Jesus/Mohammed I am getting worried now!
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Nice to see the positivity, as long as we don't suffer the fate of Crystal Palace, the Team of the 80s. They soon disappeared into obscurity.
Trouble with our current approach is that it might keep us in the Premier League and might win us lots of friends (all good), but where do we go from there? With our wages policy, can we ever develop into a credible PL force again?
There is no trouble with our approach except that we need to hold onto our emerging players. If we can do that we will figure in the spoils at the end.
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As JP says, he is always very complimentary about us on TS, or at least whenever I have heard him...
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Was also very complimentary about the fans and support they were giving last week at Stoke - mentioned it several times - well done to all that went
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As JP says, he is always very complimentary about us on TS, or at least whenever I have heard him...
He'll change his mind in a few weeks - he always does.
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On the Guardian podcast they were discussing relegation candidates, and as James Richardson mentioned us Phillipe Auclair jumped in and said 'no Villa will be absolutely fine,' and reasoned, among reasons, that we play football and are in good form, unlike the two late-season Campari-coloured plummeters Stoke and Sunderland. We are being talked up in most quarters of football journalism at the moment, and while probably premature it does make a nice change from the TSM days of the "yeah, wouldn't be sorry to see them go" consensus.
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he has been saying this for ages on TS , actually been bigging Villa up loads , massive history , massive club , loads of great fans , a proper club as he calls us . He also said it has to be Villa in the cup final not Bradford so lets hope he gets this one right.
stoke on the other hand ...........
But that's usually been in the context of 'they should be doing better' and trying to get angry Villa fans ringing in having a bash at the team/manager/chairman.
he's never be negative about Villa to be honest . Always complimentary . Arsenal yes , he winds them up.
Last season was different , Villa fans dont deserve that kind of football.
I listen occasionally and he is often complimentary about Villa. And yes he dislikes Arsenal for soem reason
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It would have been a good thing 30 years ago, maybe even 20 but recent history will repeat itself again over the next few years and anyone that does any good here for a couple of seasons will be off. It would be wonderful to think that we would keep this lot together for 6 or 7 years, adding a couple more along the way but i think it will all start to break up before Aston Villa see the real benefits of it.
Sorry to sound so pessimistic but it's import to remember the football world we live in and for that reason i wouldn't get your hopes up.
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the league table of sports radio broadcasters where coming first makes you a wanker of magnitude that we can barely comprehend, Durham isn't in the top flight. There are many, many more repulsive characters out there, and especially those who never have a good word to say about us. Durham, whenever I listen to him has rarely said a bad word about us. He doesn't half take the piss out of Arsenal, and the funny thing is I would bet a lot of Arsenal fans agree with him.
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Was also very complimentary about the fans and support they were giving last week at Stoke - mentioned it several times - well done to all that went
We were very good, what did he say?
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Oh Moses/Jesus/Mohammed I am getting worried now!
There's no God?
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Oh Moses/Jesus/Mohammed I am getting worried now!
There's no God?
Isn't that like saying "There's no Aston?" if somebody says "Villa"?
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Everton are there and there abouts consistently. I'd be looking to get to their level. Once we do we may well hit a 'glass ceiling', but I'll worry about it then!
I think Arsenal will turn out to be the more realistic comparison. Bring through our own players and buy the odd one here and there to fill the squad out, sell the better players if we get crazy money offered, sell the average/not good enough for as much as possible.
Everton's success has largely been based on picking up guys who are doing well but not quite enough to have the top sides chasing them.
Arsenal get £2m per match in gate revenue. I can't see how we can seek to emulate their model
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On the Guardian podcast they were discussing relegation candidates, and as James Richardson mentioned us Phillipe Auclair jumped in and said 'no Villa will be absolutely fine,' and reasoned, among reasons, that we play football and are in good form, unlike the two late-season Campari-coloured plummeters Stoke and Sunderland. We are being talked up in most quarters of football journalism at the moment, and while probably premature it does make a nice change from the TSM days of the "yeah, wouldn't be sorry to see them go" consensus.
This period feels so similar to the post-Liverpool game that its making me nervous. We were getting plenty of plaudits then.
It's by no means impossible that we could lose against Fulham. Though their injuries are a help, their front two are dangerous.
And then we could easily get spanked by Man U. Really spanked.
Things are looking good form-wise. But we're still only two points above the relegation zone.
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On the Guardian podcast they were discussing relegation candidates, and as James Richardson mentioned us Phillipe Auclair jumped in and said 'no Villa will be absolutely fine,' and reasoned, among reasons, that we play football and are in good form, unlike the two late-season Campari-coloured plummeters Stoke and Sunderland. We are being talked up in most quarters of football journalism at the moment, and while probably premature it does make a nice change from the TSM days of the "yeah, wouldn't be sorry to see them go" consensus.
This period feels so similar to the post-Liverpool game that its making me nervous. We were getting plenty of plaudits then.
It's by no means impossible that we could lose against Fulham. Though their injuries are a help, their front two are dangerous.
And then we could easily get spanked by Man U. Really spanked.
Things are looking good form-wise. But we're still only two points above the relegation zone.
Absolutely right. We need to win tomorrow to give us some breathing space - hopefully! - for the almost certain loss to Man Utd.
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With you all the way Matt. Whenever there is a level of hope/ expectation, Villa invariably fuck it up. I fear for tomorrow being a bit like the Southampton game.
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he has been saying this for ages on TS , actually been bigging Villa up loads , massive history , massive club , loads of great fans , a proper club as he calls us . He also said it has to be Villa in the cup final not Bradford so lets hope he gets this one right.
stoke on the other hand ...........
But that's usually been in the context of 'they should be doing better' and trying to get angry Villa fans ringing in having a bash at the team/manager/chairman.
he's never be negative about Villa to be honest . Always complimentary . Arsenal yes , he winds them up.
Last season was different , Villa fans dont deserve that kind of football.
I don't listen anymore, but it wasn't that long ago we were linked to Scott Parker after he won the writers player of the year, it seemed at the time we were the only team in for him. Adrian Durham had an hour phone in basically abusing Villa and asking Villa fans why they think a great player like Scott Parker would go to such a poor club like Villa. This was towards the end of Houlliers season I think. He was really belittling us and we'd just just made our record signing a few months before at the time. Also finished 6th 3 seasons on the trot prior to that year.
I know thats his job to get fans angry to phone in, but just thought I'd point it out as he's not always been so complimentary towards us.
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I don't know why people think the objective of TS is to get people to phone in,
when they do they are hardly on for more than a few seconds, not listned to much, and they seem to be quite happy to talk amongst themselves inbetween ringing a football friend or ex footballer for there pearls of wisdom
I bet in every hour of a 'phone in show' you only get 3 or 4 callers that they actually put through
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On the Guardian podcast they were discussing relegation candidates, and as James Richardson mentioned us Phillipe Auclair jumped in and said 'no Villa will be absolutely fine,' and reasoned, among reasons, that we play football and are in good form, unlike the two late-season Campari-coloured plummeters Stoke and Sunderland. We are being talked up in most quarters of football journalism at the moment, and while probably premature it does make a nice change from the TSM days of the "yeah, wouldn't be sorry to see them go" consensus.
This period feels so similar to the post-Liverpool game that its making me nervous. We were getting plenty of plaudits then.
It's by no means impossible that we could lose against Fulham. Though their injuries are a help, their front two are dangerous.
And then we could easily get spanked by Man U. Really spanked.
Things are looking good form-wise. But we're still only two points above the relegation zone.
I think it's right to be cautious, but Fulham at home is quite different to Chelsea away.
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I don't know why people think the objective of TS is to get people to phone in,
when they do they are hardly on for more than a few seconds, not listned to much, and they seem to be quite happy to talk amongst themselves inbetween ringing a football friend or ex footballer for there pearls of wisdom
I bet in every hour of a 'phone in show' you only get 3 or 4 callers that they actually put through
It's all the people on hold at £1.50 per minute trying to get on that they make their money on.
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Everton are there and there abouts consistently. I'd be looking to get to their level. Once we do we may well hit a 'glass ceiling', but I'll worry about it then!
I think Arsenal will turn out to be the more realistic comparison. Bring through our own players and buy the odd one here and there to fill the squad out, sell the better players if we get crazy money offered, sell the average/not good enough for as much as possible.
Everton's success has largely been based on picking up guys who are doing well but not quite enough to have the top sides chasing them.
Arsenal get £2m per match in gate revenue. I can't see how we can seek to emulate their model
Erm... ok
Fill the youth team with youngsters playing the way you want the first team to play.
Bring them through as needed, allowing many to go on loan to sides who are trying to share your values.
Keep a very strict wage structure that all players are well aware of.
If you get offered silly money for a player let them go but make a show of fighting as much as possible.
For youngsters who don't make the grade still give them a bit of time in the first team to drive their value up and make as much cash as possible from them.
Their gate receipts might move some of the numbers behind that about but in real terms the underlying concept is the same. Arsenal don't even get the players in particularly young, a lot of their 'kids' join them at 16-17.
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Durham is a WUM, but shite at it. Remember him going on about Parker, but he did have a point to be fair, why would he have been coming to us? There again, last night he was saying he, along with all the other Spuds, were shite.
I think we are a stronger team now than when we won at Liverpool and then nosedived massively. There will be talent on the bench to change things and I think we are far more confident and bit more mature tbh. Fulham are a decent team, but we need to beat them to keep things going. As for PL, he has taken lots of stick and have to say the Bradford defeat brought me into it, but he has made good signings and hopefully will be given a bit more should we stay up. The young lads should continue to improve as well, I think they have over this season
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Durham will argue black is blue to get callers to call in in. On the Saturday show he's pretty good.
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As for it being a travesy if we go down, if we finish in the bottom three, we will have deserved it. Baggies 2-0 and Everton 3-1 currently peeing me off, total control of those games.
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Baggies we lost Delph and it changed the game totally.
Everton just hit us with the Fellani monster, but was poor marking for their goals
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I don't know why people think the objective of TS is to get people to phone in,
when they do they are hardly on for more than a few seconds, not listned to much, and they seem to be quite happy to talk amongst themselves inbetween ringing a football friend or ex footballer for there pearls of wisdom
I bet in every hour of a 'phone in show' you only get 3 or 4 callers that they actually put through
It's all the people on hold at £1.50 per minute trying to get on that they make their money on.
And the ones so wound up by something said on air that they text the radio station at 50p a text.
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Baggies we lost Delph and it changed the game totally.
Everton just hit us with the Fellani monster, but was poor marking for their goals
I think we are stronger now and that is why I am more hopeful, but they were big points lost. That said, my lads (he is nearly 21) game had finished on Saturday and we were in away clubhouse for last 25 mins of Villa game. Swearing ensued when they equalised and then when I heard champagne charlies screech goal, I shouted the f word as knew we would lose. Imagine my delight and even more so when it was a quicker link and Benteke had made my 3-1 scoreline, at 26/1, come in.
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As for it being a travesy if we go down, if we finish in the bottom three, we will have deserved it. Baggies 2-0 and Everton 3-1 currently peeing me off, total control of those games.
I'm not so sure that's fair. I'm sure you could look down the results of other teams and see defeats snatched from unlikely positions or opposition.
We have tried to play football, we have steered clear of fascists, we've given the manager the chance to finish what he started, we haven't thrown money at the problem and we definitely don't have a gobshite for a chairman.
We will have deserved to stay up regardless of whether we do or not.
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Paul Lambert says there is no chance of Aston Villa resting on their laurels as they continue the fight to avoid relegation from the Premier League.
Villa have hit form in recent weeks, winning three of their last four games, but they are still only two points outside the bottom three heading into the final six matches of the season.
They host Fulham on Saturday, but Lambert has warned his players to take nothing for granted despite their improvement in form.
He said: "I don't sense any feeling that they feel the job's done and they know the hard work's still there, but they also know that they're playing really well at the moment.
"The more that we can keep winning the more it'll happen and they'll get used
to that feeling.
"If we do get that winning feeling and we're at it then we're a really good side that's for sure.
"If you keep that collective thing and that spirit then that's half the battle. It's a team thing. If you look at the most successful teams then everyone's pulling the same way and this isn't any different."
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11661/8633734
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Quite rite would be a disaster for Villa and premier league as we are one of the leading clubs. How can villa who are the club with next gen champions youth not have their first team playing in premier league. The popularity we have compared to likes of wigan and norwich and even stoke means premier league is what we are. The history puts us in top 5 not bottom 5. Our stadium and facilities out shine wigan so its frustrating we are competing with them. I respect they do as well as they can but the villa fan base is far wider and reaches to more. Maybe we ll be getting some decisions our way to keep us in the league as the premier league would nt want to lose Villa
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The top deck of the Holte wouldnt be to pleased about it either.
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Quite rite would be a disaster for Villa and premier league as we are one of the leading clubs. How can villa who are the club with next gen champions youth not have their first team playing in premier league. The popularity we have compared to likes of wigan and norwich and even stoke means premier league is what we are. The history puts us in top 5 not bottom 5. Our stadium and facilities out shine wigan so its frustrating we are competing with them. I respect they do as well as they can but the villa fan base is far wider and reaches to more. Maybe we ll be getting some decisions our way to keep us in the league as the premier league would nt want to lose Villa
Well after today's results the Premier League, the Daily Heil and many Villa fans better come to terms with the prospect.
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Quite rite would be a disaster for Villa and premier league as we are one of the leading clubs. How can villa who are the club with next gen champions youth not have their first team playing in premier league. The popularity we have compared to likes of wigan and norwich and even stoke means premier league is what we are. The history puts us in top 5 not bottom 5. Our stadium and facilities out shine wigan so its frustrating we are competing with them. I respect they do as well as they can but the villa fan base is far wider and reaches to more. Maybe we ll be getting some decisions our way to keep us in the league as the premier league would nt want to lose Villa
Well after today's results the Premier League, the Daily Heil and many Villa fans better come to terms with the prospect.
Why?
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Quite rite would be a disaster for Villa and premier league as we are one of the leading clubs. How can villa who are the club with next gen champions youth not have their first team playing in premier league. The popularity we have compared to likes of wigan and norwich and even stoke means premier league is what we are. The history puts us in top 5 not bottom 5. Our stadium and facilities out shine wigan so its frustrating we are competing with them. I respect they do as well as they can but the villa fan base is far wider and reaches to more. Maybe we ll be getting some decisions our way to keep us in the league as the premier league would nt want to lose Villa
Well after today's results the Premier League, the Daily Heil and many Villa fans better come to terms with the prospect.
We havent even played this weekend and your having us already relegated..we have two games against Sunderland and Norwich after Monday to come...get a grip man, were not down yet, as Ron would say, "Do you want to bet against us"
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We're paying the price for mistakes of the past. However, for the first time in a long while I actually feel very positive about what the club is currently trying to achieve regardless of how this season pans out.
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Do you think we will have pro Villa referee in next 5 games. I wonder who are they :)
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Wrong thread.