Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Steve R on April 09, 2013, 12:16:26 AM
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In 1957 Villa played a challenge match against the cup winners of another nation. A kind of early cup winners cup I suppose.
Who were the opposition and where was the game played?
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What is the prize?
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I think I have a 4 page programme for a Villa v Shamrock Rovers friendly. Was that in 1957 ?
Dont know if Shamrock were the Irish cup winners then, they were certainly Irish champions as they played Man U in the preliminary round of the European Cup that season.
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The prize should be that you get to set the next Villa quiz question perhaps?
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My answer is shamrock rovers :)
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Shamrock Rovers played Manyooo in the European cup that year and lost 3-2.
I cannot find anything.
Shamrock Rovers for me aswell.
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Glenavon ?
Glenavon ?
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It's not Shamrock Rovers nor Glenavon. I must admit I'd never heard of the game being played until I found mention of it in an old book.
The prize is a free weekend for two in Kabul*.
We lost the game 2-1. I'll post the answer later today, when I've had chance to scan the two pictures from the book.
*Subject to availability
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Bohemians
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Fortuna 54
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It's not an Irish club.
Slightly warmer with Fortuna 54.
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It's not an Irish club.
Slightly warmer with Fortuna 54.
I know but having seen the prize i don't want to win :(
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Were you the first man on the moon?
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Was it gareth Barry in the library with a candlestick?
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Were you the first man on the moon?
What's the prize?
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Is it Lazio?
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If it's just the one dart, is it 60 ?
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Willem II?
I love Kabul. Does the trip come with spending money and matching luggage?
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Neither Willem II nor Lazio.
It depends upon the number of warheads on the dart.
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The only friendly I can find shortly after we won the cup was the Army.
(http://www.footballzone.co.uk/images/i-17000/17574.jpg)
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Ifk gothenburg
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Fredrikstad of norway
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Fredrikstad of norway
Fredriks dad ?
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Fortuna 54
They did well. They were only founded in 1954, funnily enough !
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Arsenal Kyiv
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Am I allowed to answer this, bearing in mind that I called in outside help from the Oracle of All Things Astonian?
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Am I allowed to answer this, bearing in mind that I called in outside help from the Oracle of All Things Astonian?
Yes the suspense is killing us - tell us the answer !
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From Mr Russell:
One of the most infamous games in the history of European soccer, much less the Villa!!!
29 May 1957 Toulouse 2 Aston Villa 1.
Peter Mac mentions it in his "Going for Goal"
it set back the cause of European soccer for years. Remember, the FA had refused to let Chelsea play in the new fangled European Cup
Now they had proof positive as to why before Man U 'defied them'
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Spot on Dave.
I've put the picture in Villa Memories here (http://www.heroesandvillains.info/forumv3/index.php?topic=49516.0)
It sounds quite a game.
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Damn I checked the cup winners in that year of lots of countries but forgot the French .
Enjoy Kabul , dave, I've heard it can be a bit noisy this time of year ;)
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It's not an Irish club.
Slightly warmer with Fortuna 54.
Ajax.
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It's not an Irish club.
Slightly warmer with Fortuna 54.
Ajax.
It was Toulouse.
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It's not an Irish club.
Slightly warmer with Fortuna 54.
Ajax.
It was Toulouse.
It was all toulouse.
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It's not an Irish club.
Slightly warmer with Fortuna 54.
Ajax.
Vim
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Ajax, Fortuna 54 came second. Played in Amsterdam.
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It's not an Irish club.
Slightly warmer with Fortuna 54.
Fortuna Dusseldorf?
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Its ours Toulouse.
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We also played another country's cup winners after winning the cup 70 years before that! 126 years ago today in fact.
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Do Toulouse even have a football team? It's proper egg-chasing country down there
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We also played another country's cup winners after winning the cup 70 years before that! 126 years ago today in fact.
Smart arse. One difficult question is enough.
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We also played another country's cup winners after winning the cup 70 years before that! 126 years ago today in fact.
Smart arse. One difficult question is enough.
Queens Park at a punt
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Do Toulouse even have a football team? It's proper egg-chasing country down there
Yup, a Ligue 1 outfit. Back in Paris, I believe Stade Colombes is still used by a rugby team.
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We also played another country's cup winners after winning the cup 70 years before that! 126 years ago today in fact.
Are you sure it was 1887? We played Queens Park on Easter Monday 1888, in the last game we played against them. In 1887 we played them on January 1st (or rather our reserves did) then at Cathkin Park on January 3rd, when the match was abandoned after a riot.
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We also played another country's cup winners after winning the cup 70 years before that! 126 years ago today in fact.
Are you sure it was 1887? We played Queens Park on Easter Monday 1888, in the last game we played against them. In 1887 we played them on January 1st (or rather our reserves did) then at Cathkin Park on January 3rd, when the match was abandoned after a riot.
We beat Hibs, the Scottish Cup winners, in 1887, one week after we won our first cup.
We also sort-of played Hibs and Queen's Park as, when we beat Rangers in the cup semi-final, they borrowed players from the other two pre-eminent Scottish clubs of the time. The cheating bastards.
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We also played another country's cup winners after winning the cup 70 years before that! 126 years ago today in fact.
Are you sure it was 1887? We played Queens Park on Easter Monday 1888, in the last game we played against them. In 1887 we played them on January 1st (or rather our reserves did) then at Cathkin Park on January 3rd, when the match was abandoned after a riot.
We beat Hibs, the Scottish Cup winners, in 1887, one week after we won our first cup.
We also sort-of played Hibs and Queen's Park as, when we beat Rangers in the cup semi-final, they borrowed players from the other two pre-eminent Scottish clubs of the time. The cheating bastards.
Correct - we beat Hibs 3-0. You win a dream about us winning the cup again one day.
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We also played another country's cup winners after winning the cup 70 years before that! 126 years ago today in fact.
Are you sure it was 1887? We played Queens Park on Easter Monday 1888, in the last game we played against them. In 1887 we played them on January 1st (or rather our reserves did) then at Cathkin Park on January 3rd, when the match was abandoned after a riot.
Any idea what caused the riot dave, out of curiosity?
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Harry Hampton gave 'em the 'sash' after scoring a goal
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Did anyone predict the riot?
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We also played another country's cup winners after winning the cup 70 years before that! 126 years ago today in fact.
Are you sure it was 1887? We played Queens Park on Easter Monday 1888, in the last game we played against them. In 1887 we played them on January 1st (or rather our reserves did) then at Cathkin Park on January 3rd, when the match was abandoned after a riot.
Any idea what caused the riot dave, out of curiosity?
We were 5-1 up at half time despite only having ten men and Queens Park wouldn't come out for the second half.
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We also played another country's cup winners after winning the cup 70 years before that! 126 years ago today in fact.
Are you sure it was 1887? We played Queens Park on Easter Monday 1888, in the last game we played against them. In 1887 we played them on January 1st (or rather our reserves did) then at Cathkin Park on January 3rd, when the match was abandoned after a riot.
Any idea what caused the riot dave, out of curiosity?
We were 5-1 up at half time despite only having ten men and Queens Park wouldn't come out for the second half.
Thanks dave.
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(http://a4.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/49/51eb575a7da04f2795c9bd1c18668b5b/l.jpg)
"5-1 you say?"
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Why didn't Gareth Barry take that penalty at the Emirates in 2008?
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If you have to start on a double, is it 40 ?
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Why didn't Gareth Barry take that penalty at the Emirates in 2008?
Wasnt he in the library with a candlestick committing the deadly sin?
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I love that Mellberg picture. Not only is it iconic, it must have pissed off Blues fans no end. The best they could offer was a clapped out full back giving a wanker sign.